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Besides, how does Greece control Istanbul in a complete collapse of the EU?

Just do what Transamur did and declare all debts null and void after global financial collapse.

That wasn't my point. If 60% of everyone in Istanbul died, it'd still be almost the same population as the entirety of pre-outbreak Greece. Greece doesn't have the capital, the manpower or the resources to occupy Istanbul. The only acceptable excuse is that it's some sort of Greco-Turkist union (which is a thing btw) but from what Justinina has said, the Turks are actually oppressed in this hypothetical country.

This may seem like I have it out for Justinian but it isn't. I just don't find the idea of a Neo-Byzantine Empire in this setting to be realistic. Greece can barely keep its own population in check IRL, let alone the population of Istanbul.

Densely populated cities like Istanbul to be disproportionately affected by a plague. Most American cities tend to be more spread out than European ones, due to their development in tandem with the automobile. Istanbul wasn't wiped out, it was abandoned purposely due to its nature as plague bait (yes, I know not all of Istanbul is the Fatih district, but population density is still 2,500 people per square kilometer) Canakkale swelled in population as a result and essentially became the new Istanbul. Meanwhile the festering carcass of old Istanbul got swooped up by glorified mercenaries, whom the Turks promptly rendered irrelevant by securing Izmit and letting people just stop on the other side of the Bosporus. The new Constantinopian state survived purely because of the blind ultranationalism that said mercenaries pumped out encouraging people to settle there. It would have collapsed in on itself had Demetrios not started a campaign against the fractured states of Bulgaria and Greece and gathering enough manpower to threaten the Turkish Marmaran Republic, with whom they finally entered into a glorious conflict and....peacefully negotiated a treaty of amity which slowly accumulated into a mutual agglomeration.
As for the Turks being oppressed? They aren't. It's more that they fear it could happen if they lose their proportional position in the population, and thus want to continue to fill it with more Turks/people who are ok with turks to counteract the influx of the not-so-ok-with-turks orthodox slavs.

Okay. Millions of people leaving there homes and livelihoods in an exodus toward wherever in hopes of fsafe haven isn't realistic. It isn't even possible. Even if Istanbul is "plague bait". And if it is, then that also means like half of all major ciites in Europe are probably abandoned too, including Athens so.

Well yeah, Athens is gone too. How else do you think Demetrios conquered Greece and Bulgaria?

IIII should join in. Sorry, been busy. Nobody's nuked Central America yet, right?

IIII should join in. Sorry, been busy. Nobody's nuked Central America yet, right?

Nothing's nuked. Chime in!

Hey guys this looks like a cool idea, there still room for people? Has the West US coast been taken?

Hey guys this looks like a cool idea, there still room for people? Has the West US coast been taken?

It's all empty.

Just waiting on @Mariam and @Ashton Mercer

Hey guys this looks like a cool idea, there still room for people? Has the West US coast been taken?

It's all empty.

Alright, I think I will try and draw something up for that then.

*totally wants Japan or somewhere in Scandinavia but has 0 time at present*

*totally wants Japan or somewhere in Scandinavia but has 0 time at present*

Has 0 time, does this anyway XD

Hey guys. I apologize sincerely for the wait up. @North and @Ashton Mercer, I posted a response.

Romania is come. Now, about my lands in bulgaria....

I must say: I'm quite pleased with this. It's far more stable and written better than any of the original HOTW RPs

Now that I think of it, I should really write my nation's history lol.