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Grammar Check of Wintreath
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Mathyland
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  • I have noticed, while reading the Wintrean laws, that there are some typos and grammar mistakes. My goal on this thread is to point out those errors so that the government can fix them. I'll probably point out anything that comes to mind, but some of those might not matter such as different spellings of the same word. I'll point out everything, but it's up to the government to decide what to fix. I'll have a report for each law and amendment. Others can help too of you want to, but I'll do it myself of nobody helps.
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  • I've checked the Constitutional Law area first. I first checked it by reading it carefully, then I used Grammarly to help find the mistakes I missed. There were some mistakes Grammarly didn't catch that I did, so I'm going to continue this tactic.

    Corrections
    The Fundamental Laws of Wintreath
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    4. Upon the conclusion of the election, the Underhusen shall, under supervison of the Monarch, select a member of its own to preside over the Underhusen. Further procedure shall be declared in the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen.
    The red word should be "supervision."
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    12. The Storting shall have the authorty to declare war upon another region or organization.
    Should be "authority."
    Quote
    9. The recall election shall compose of a forty-eight hours nomination period in which candidates may stand for election, followed by a seventy-two hours election period. The winner of the recall election shall assume the seat in question upon its conclusion.
    "hours" should not be plural.

    There were some spots that looked like comma splices, but probably make more sense with the comma there because it makes a pause.
    Speaker Selection Omnibus Act
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    4. Upon the conclusion of the election, the Underhusen shall, under supervison of the Monarch, select a member of it's own to preside over the Underhusen. Further procedure shall be declared in the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen.
    This should be "its," but it is corrected in the actual Fundamental Laws, so it doesn't really matter.
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    8. At the Conclusion of each election, the Monarch shall immediatly open poll within the halls of the Underhusen, where prospective candidates will have 48 hours to stand as a candidate for Speaker of the Underhusen. Following the 48 hour period, all Skrifa may have one vote for Speaker of the Underhusen. The poll will remain open for 48 hours. The Speaker shall be chosen by popularity vote.
    Same deal with this, and it should be "immediately."
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    4. Section 3 of this bill will only become effective if the bill in it's entirety passes a referendum of all citizens of Wintreath.
    Same thing here with its. Did this person not have spell check on that day?
    The Recalls and Referendums Amendment Act
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    6. Any Citizen which voted in the previous regular election as defined in Article I Section 3 shall have the right to petition for the recall of any member of the Underhusen unless unless there are fewer than twenty-one days left until the next regular election.
    This one was also fixed in the actual laws.
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    6. A proposal which fails to gather the requisite number of signatures may not be petitioned again until after the next regular election.

    Recalls

    6. Any Citizen which voted in the previous regular election as defined in Article I Section 3 shall have the right to petition for the recall of any member of the Underhusen unless unless there are fewer than twenty-one days left until the next regular election.
    This is also fixed in the actual laws, I just thought I should point it out.
    The Royal Titles and Styles Act
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    5. Jarls of Wintreath shall be titled His/Her Lordship and addressed as Your Lordship.
    These should really be "Lordship/Ladyship."
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    8. The Preamble of the Fundamental Laws of Wintreath shall be amended to read as follows;
    This should be a colon.
    The Clarification of Royal Decrees Amendment Act
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    2) Article II, Section 6 of the Fundamental Laws shall be amended as follows:
    6. The Monarch shall have the authority to issue decrees in relation to policies concerning the internal affairs of the Executive, the military, foreign affairs, famillial houses, the nobility, and any other Executive authority which has been expressly granted through this document or any relevant laws.
    Should be "familial," though this is fixed in the Fundamental Laws.
    The Omnibus Constitutional Correction Act
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    9. The recall election shall compose of a forty-eight hours nomination period in which candidates may stand for election, followed by a seventy-two hours election period. The winner of the recall election shall assume the seat in question upon its conclusion.
    This is the same one as the one I pointed out in the Fundamental Laws where "hours" shouldn't be plural.
    Quote
    4. Upon the conclusion of the election, the Underhusen shall, under supervison of the Monarch, select a member of its own to preside over the Underhusen. Further procedure shall be declared in the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen.
    This is also a repeat from the laws.
    Declassification Amendment Act
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    3.  Section 4 shall be added to the Declassification of Private Storting Discussion Procedure Act, and it shall read:
    "Any powers given to the Speaker or Chairman by this act will also be given to the Speaker Pro Tempore and Acting Chairman if they are empowered by their respective Procedural Rules.
    This is missing the ending quotation marks.

    I probably pointed out too many, as some were errors that were fixed in the actual Fundamental Laws, but I wanted to point out all of them.

    My next report will be on the Royal Decrees.
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    « Last Edit: November 25, 2016, 11:02:15 PM by Mathyland »
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  • Nice work so far. However, I don't think there's any point to reviewing Royal Decrees, seeing as they've already been decreed and the Storting can't amend them.
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  • Nice work so far. However, I don't think there's any point to reviewing Royal Decrees, seeing as they've already been decreed and the Storting can't amend them.
    I suppose if Wintermoot wanted, he could make any needed grammar corrections to his decrees...
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  • Heil Grammar? :P

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  • I'm working on finishing this grammar check, so expect a finished check sometime soon.
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  • As you can see, I forgot about this for a long time. But now that I'm in the Underhusen and they need something to do, I thought I'd finish this. I decided to put all the errors in this one post, and I'll also include the errors I already corrected in the first post. I'm including those first errors because I included errors that were in the amendments, but fixed in the actual law. Here it is; the grammar check of Wintrean Laws:

    P.S. Every time a law has been amended and it lists the amendments at the bottom of the law, there isn't correct punctuation of the date.

    Constitutional Law
    The Fundamental Laws of Wintreath
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    4. Upon the conclusion of the election, the Underhusen shall, under supervison of the Monarch, select a member of its own to preside over the Underhusen. Further procedure shall be declared in the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen.
    The red word should be "supervision."
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    12. The Storting shall have the authorty to declare war upon another region or organization.
    Should be "authority."
    Quote
    9. The recall election shall compose of a forty-eight hours nomination period in which candidates may stand for election, followed by a seventy-two hours election period. The winner of the recall election shall assume the seat in question upon its conclusion.
    "hours" should not be plural.

    There were some spots that looked like comma splices, but probably make more sense with the comma there because it makes a pause.
    The Royal Titles and Styles Act
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    5. Jarls of Wintreath shall be titled His/Her Lordship and addressed as Your Lordship.
    These should really be "Lordship/Ladyship."
    Quote
    8. The Preamble of the Fundamental Laws of Wintreath shall be amended to read as follows;
    This should be a colon.
    Declassification Amendment Act
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    3.  Section 4 shall be added to the Declassification of Private Storting Discussion Procedure Act, and it shall read:
    "Any powers given to the Speaker or Chairman by this act will also be given to the Speaker Pro Tempore and Acting Chairman if they are empowered by their respective Procedural Rules.
    This is missing the ending quotation marks.
    Royal Decrees
    Decree 002
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    It is my hope that the region and its community preserver through these latest events, just as they have through so many dark times before.
    This should be "persevere."
    Decree 003
    Quote
    long after you've already chose Wintreath as your home.
    This should be "chosen."
    Decree 005
    Quote
    so that if and when we adopt into it it will be clear to everybody what roles, if any, they will be taking on.
    There should be a comma between the two "it"s.
    Decree 006
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    In time, I hope that in time the papers that spawn contribute to our community by educating and informing, as well as generating activity and discussion.
    The second "in time" here is redundant and should be removed.
    Quote
    and for our diplomatic partners there's the opportunity to publish their newspapers
    There should be a comma after "partners."
    Decree 007
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    that would could harm our region or even outright violate treaty if they were to be released.
    This should be either or, but not both.
    Quote
    and shall notifiy
    This should be "notify."
    Quote
    Once classified, a discussions classification status
    There should be an apostrophe in this word
    Decree 008
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    However, there is another category of founderless region out there
    This should be plural.
    Quote
    and shall notifiy
    "Notify" is spelled incorrectly here too.
    Decree 010
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    Historically, the Delegacy of Wintreath has been appointed by the Monarch as all members of the Riksråd are
    I think there should be a comma after "Monarch."
    Quote
    and shall notifiy
    I'm guessing this repeated error is due to copy and paste.
    Treaties
    The Rejected Realms - Wintreath Pact
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    the many syngergies we share as regions
    .
    This is misspelled and should be "synergies."
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    Both signatories agree to miltiary cooperation
    Should be "military."
    The Treaty of Friendship Between The Kingdom of Ainur and The Frozen Realm
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    A subordinate possession shall be defined as a region which a Party has either founded, refounded, or otherwise exercises control over through the subordinate possession's founder nation
    "exercises" should be "exorcised" because the rest of the list is in past tense, so it has to be in past tense too.
    Treaty of Friendship and Cultural Exchange Between International Northwestern Union and The Frozen Realm of Wintreath
    I noticed that "Party" was capitalized every time in the treaty with Ainur, but it's not capitalized at all in this treaty.
    The Covenant of Fellowship Between New Hyperion and Wintreath
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    internal laws seperate from the Suzerain
    This should be "separate."
    Quote
    29 October 2016,
    There should be a comma after "October".
    Quote
    This Treaty may be amended, through ratification by both the Vassal and the Suzerain, without termination of the Treaty./quote
    I'm not sure how this wasn't noticed, but there's a random "/quote" in the middle of it. (There were [] brackets around it, but I had to get rid of them in the quote so it didn't think I was ending my quote of it)
    Statutory Law
    The Citizenship and Demonym Act
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    if it feels the individual was an essential of member of the regional community
    "of" should be deleted.
    The Judicial Offices Act
    "Skrifa" is misspelled as "Skifra" Every single time it's used.
    Quote
    or to the Speaker of the Undehusen
    This is misspelled and should be "Underhusen."
    Quote
    In accordance with Section 3 (parts 1 and 2)
    Quote
    the Judicial Offices Act will enforce Section 3 [clause 1 and 2] of the Fundamental Laws.
    These two are inconsistent because they use different types of brackets and say both "clause" and "part."
    The Charax Romanov Act
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    3.1 Charax shall receive the Commendation of Wintreath for the following
    There should be a colon at the end of this.
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    3.1.1 Running the Foreign Affairs Department.
          3.1.2 Being a major Contributor to the Fundamental Laws
          3.1.3 Being the first Crown Prince of Wintreath
    When making a list like this, you need to be consistent as to whether or not to have punctuation at the end of each list item.
    Code of Criminal Laws
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    8. Statute of Limitation on this Act
    This is the only section that doesn't have a period at the end of it, which is inconsistent.
    The Definition of Public Act
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    1. This shall be titled the Definition of Public Act
    There should be a period at the end of this sentence.
    Overhusen Procedure
    Procedural Rules of the Overhusen Act
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    4. When voting, Overhusen members may cast one or the following votes on proposals:
    This should be "of."
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    a. The Chairperson of the Overhusen shall have the authority hold a vote open after the outcome has been declared, up to 7 days of the vote being introduced.
    The word "to" should be after "authority."
    Procedural Rules of the Overhusen Amendment I
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    1.1 This shall be titled Procedural Rules of the Overhusen Amendment I
    There should be a period at the end of this sentence.
    Quote
    2.1 This shall add section 10 which shall read:

    The Chairman of the Overhusen, or Acting Chairman if he/she is in use, shall keep an easily accessible archive of all former and current votes in a way that he/she chooses that all citizens shall have access to.  In the event that the Chairman is unable to keep the archive up to date regularly, they may, at the approval of the Monarch or Regent, appoint a current citizen of Wintreath to assist them.
    This wasn't actually added to the Procedural Rules of the Overhusen, and it should have been.
    Underhusen Procedure
    The Procedural Rules of the Underhusen Act
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    (b) A motion to Extend Debate may include a time period shorter or longer than 48 hours, but is not shorter than 4 hours and is not longer than 1 weeks
    This should not be plural.
    Quote
    Abstain, indicating that the representative is voting neither in favor of or against
    This should be "nor."
    Quote
    The Speaker may close a vote, but leave the record open to allow other Skrifa to record their votes.
    There should not be a comma in this sentence.
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    The Speaker pro tempore, whenever he or she is presiding over the Underhusen, shall assume all of the responsibilities of the Speaker as listed in relevant law, and shall be subject to the same constitutional and statutory restraints placed upon the Speaker.
    The comma before "and" should be omitted.
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    The Speaker (or standing Speaker) may deem members of the Underhusen "inactive" if they are not present for a prolonged period of time, this status can be ignored if supplanted by either the "inactive" member stating they are no longer inactive in the Underhusen or by majority vote of all current Skrifa.
    This comma should be a period.
    Quote
    During this suspension no proposals may be introduced, motioned on, or voted on in the Underhusen.
    There should be a comma after "suspension."
    All Underhusen Seating Acts
    There is apparently no format used for all of these acts and they're all formatted differently and named differently. It got better in the last three Seating Acts, but one of them had quotation marks while the other two had italicized words. These could be fixed, but it's probably better to just have a set format in the future.

    Also, every single Underhusen Seating Act does not capitalize "act" where it says "This act shall be entitled..."
    My Suggested Underhusen Seating Act format for the future
    Title
    1. This Act shall be entitled the Underhusen Seats for the [Underhusen number] Storting Act.

    Seating
    2. The number of Skrifa in the [Underhusen number] session of the Underhusen shall be [seat number] (seat number).
    (Notice how there's a space before the parenthesis)
    Procedural Rules of the Underhusen Amendments
    There are two "Procedural Rules of the Underhusen Amendment VI" amendments.
    There is also no ninth amendment.

    That concludes my report on the grammar errors in the Laws of Wintreath (*phew* :P).

    If anyone wants to give me feedback on this (*cough cough* @taulover), feel free to do so. I'll leave this here for awhile to wait for feedback and discussion, then I'll try to actually get these errors fixed.

    P.S. There are some Oxford Comma errors, and I don't know if I should include those. I really like the Oxford Comma, but I don't know if it matters enough to include it here.
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    « Last Edit: June 08, 2017, 03:08:13 AM by Mathyland »
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    The 25th Underhusen
    The 26th Underhusen
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  • Wow, nicely done. This must have taken a good chunk of time to do. And I also like the Oxford comma. I did notice one typo in your spoiler titles, though, not that they matter. :D
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  • *searches all spoiler titles for mistake and doesn't find it*

    I'm all grammared out today. What's the mistake?

    And it only took 6 months for me to get around to finally finishing it :D
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  • *searches all spoiler titles for mistake and doesn't find it*

    I'm all grammared out today. What's the mistake?

    And it only took 6 months for me to get around to finally finishing it :D

    Statutory law not Satuitory :P
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  • *searches all spoiler titles for mistake and doesn't find it*

    I'm all grammared out today. What's the mistake?

    And it only took 6 months for me to get around to finally finishing it :D

    Statutory law not Satuitory :P
    I don't know what you're talking about; there's no error :D (totally)

    Edit: And I forgot to include this before: does anyone know if we can make a law that amends all laws with grammar mistakes? Becuase right now, all amendments just affect one law.
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  • *searches all spoiler titles for mistake and doesn't find it*

    I'm all grammared out today. What's the mistake?

    And it only took 6 months for me to get around to finally finishing it :D

    Statutory law not Satuitory :P
    I don't know what you're talking about; there's no error :D (totally)

    Edit: And I forgot to include this before: does anyone know if we can make a law that amends all laws with grammar mistakes? Becuase right now, all amendments just affect one law.
    It's questionable, especially because you would be including the Fundamental Laws with that. So I would argue it should be split between multiple bills, at the very least two.
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  • I'm all grammared out today. What's the mistake?
    I can see, considering that neologism you just made. :P
    *searches all spoiler titles for mistake and doesn't find it*

    I'm all grammared out today. What's the mistake?

    And it only took 6 months for me to get around to finally finishing it :D

    Statutory law not Satuitory :P
    I don't know what you're talking about; there's no error :D (totally)

    Edit: And I forgot to include this before: does anyone know if we can make a law that amends all laws with grammar mistakes? Becuase right now, all amendments just affect one law.
    It's questionable, especially because you would be including the Fundamental Laws with that. So I would argue it should be split between multiple bills, at the very least two.
    I'd say we'd need more than two:

    1. Statutory Law
    2. Constitutional Law, since that needs to go through the referendum process
    3. Royal Decrees, because only Wintermoot can amend those
    4. Overhusen Procedure, as the Overhusen would need to do that themselves
    5. Underhusen Procedure, as the Underhusen would need to do that themselves
    6+. Treaties, as these would need to be negotiated separately with the respective parties, so I'm not sure that would be worth the hassle
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  • I'm all grammared out today. What's the mistake?
    I can see, considering that neologism you just made. :P
    *searches all spoiler titles for mistake and doesn't find it*

    I'm all grammared out today. What's the mistake?

    And it only took 6 months for me to get around to finally finishing it :D

    Statutory law not Satuitory :P
    I don't know what you're talking about; there's no error :D (totally)

    Edit: And I forgot to include this before: does anyone know if we can make a law that amends all laws with grammar mistakes? Becuase right now, all amendments just affect one law.
    It's questionable, especially because you would be including the Fundamental Laws with that. So I would argue it should be split between multiple bills, at the very least two.
    I'd say we'd need more than two:

    1. Statutory Law
    2. Constitutional Law, since that needs to go through the referendum process
    3. Royal Decrees, because only Wintermoot can amend those
    4. Overhusen Procedure, as the Overhusen would need to do that themselves
    5. Underhusen Procedure, as the Underhusen would need to do that themselves
    6+. Treaties, as these would need to be negotiated separately with the respective parties, so I'm not sure that would be worth the hassle
    I mean it could be argued that the Storting has the authority to modify decrees, BUT I would heavily advise against that as the outcome would be a much weaker Storting.
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  • And now to provide some commentary on your report:
    Constitutional Law
    The Royal Titles and Styles Act
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    5. Jarls of Wintreath shall be titled His/Her Lordship and addressed as Your Lordship.
    These should really be "Lordship/Ladyship."
    Arguably not; "Lord" is occasionally used as a title for females. So we should probably have a discussion on this before amending it as a typo.
    The Royal Titles and Styles Act
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    8. The Preamble of the Fundamental Laws of Wintreath shall be amended to read as follows;
    This should be a colon.
    Declassification Amendment Act
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    3.  Section 4 shall be added to the Declassification of Private Storting Discussion Procedure Act, and it shall read:
    "Any powers given to the Speaker or Chairman by this act will also be given to the Speaker Pro Tempore and Acting Chairman if they are empowered by their respective Procedural Rules.
    This is missing the ending quotation marks.
    Amending amendments... somehow I find this nitpicking both satisfying and amusing. :D
    Royal Decrees
    Decree 005
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    so that if and when we adopt into it it will be clear to everybody what roles, if any, they will be taking on.
    There should be a comma between the two "it"s.
    That's a style choice. I'd recommend the comma for clarity, but that's not entirely necessary.
    Decree 006
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    For our Citizens and residents there's the opportunity to become better informed or to become part of an independent newspaper, and for our diplomatic partners there's the opportunity to publish their newspapers
    There should be a comma after "partners."
    (italics have been added by myself to provide more context)

    Again a style choice. In this case I'd actually recommend against making the change, as it would break parallelism with the full statement, and as the sentence is clear enough as it is.
    Decree 010
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    Historically, the Delegacy of Wintreath has been appointed by the Monarch as all members of the Riksråd are, an arrangement which made perfect sense when only the Delegate and the Founder could hold authority over the region.
    I think there should be a comma after "Monarch."
    (italics have been added by myself to provide more context)

    Similar style choice here; given the context of the rest of the sentence, I think having no comma flows better in this case.

    Introductions to Royal Decrees are more essays/speeches than anything else, so having/missing commas isn't too important in this case IMO, as intended style is probably more important.
    Treaties
    The Treaty of Friendship Between The Kingdom of Ainur and The Frozen Realm
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    A subordinate possession shall be defined as a region which a Party has either founded, refounded, or otherwise exercises control over through the subordinate possession's founder nation
    "exercises" should be "exorcised" because the rest of the list is in past tense, so it has to be in past tense too.
    This treaty just got repealed, so no need to fix this one. :D Speaking of which, I'm pretty sure our new Speaker (or our current Speaker, @BraveSirRobin, for that matter), is responsible for maintaining the archive, so the repeal law should probably be added in and the treaty struck out. Or is @Wintermoot responsible? Don't exactly remember.

    And also you don't exorcise nations, at least not in NS. :P
    Treaty of Friendship and Cultural Exchange Between International Northwestern Union and The Frozen Realm of Wintreath
    I noticed that "Party" was capitalized every time in the treaty with Ainur, but it's not capitalized at all in this treaty.
    Treaties generally don't have consistent style because of the different regions, authors, etc. writing them.
    The Covenant of Fellowship Between New Hyperion and Wintreath
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    29 October 2016,
    There should be a comma after "October".
    Nope. This is the British/European/US military/MLA style. It's either the US style, "October 29, 2016" (with a comma), or the British style, "29 October 2016" (without a comma).
    The Covenant of Fellowship Between New Hyperion and Wintreath
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    This Treaty may be amended, through ratification by both the Vassal and the Suzerain, without termination of the Treaty./quote
    I'm not sure how this wasn't noticed, but there's a random "/quote" in the middle of it. (There were [] brackets around it, but I had to get rid of them in the quote so it didn't think I was ending my quote of it)
    This is a copy/paste error to the archive from the Overhusen voting thread. Notice that next statement:
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    Peers may vote Aye, Nay, or may Abstain from voting.
    Our Underhusen Speaker (@BraveSirRobin) can probably fix that error now.
    Statutory Law
    Everything looks good here (now that you've fixed the title :P).
    Overhusen Procedure
    Procedural Rules of the Overhusen Amendment I
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    2.1 This shall add section 10 which shall read:

    The Chairman of the Overhusen, or Acting Chairman if he/she is in use, shall keep an easily accessible archive of all former and current votes in a way that he/she chooses that all citizens shall have access to.  In the event that the Chairman is unable to keep the archive up to date regularly, they may, at the approval of the Monarch or Regent, appoint a current citizen of Wintreath to assist them.
    This wasn't actually added to the Procedural Rules of the Overhusen, and it should have been.
    The archive is actually outdated in this case; there's also been a Procedural Rules Amendment II. The most up-to-date version can be found in the Overhusen forum. I'm not sure who's supposed to update this, @Wuufu perhaps? Or the Underhusen speaker (@BraveSirRobin)?

    I would also like to point out an inconsistency in the updated version of the Procedural Rules: both Chairperson and Chairman are used, which is somewhat strange.
    Underhusen Procedure
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    The Speaker may close a vote, but leave the record open to allow other Skrifa to record their votes.
    There should not be a comma in this sentence.
    Quote
    The Speaker pro tempore, whenever he or she is presiding over the Underhusen, shall assume all of the responsibilities of the Speaker as listed in relevant law, and shall be subject to the same constitutional and statutory restraints placed upon the Speaker.
    The comma before "and" should be omitted.
    I'm pretty sure this is the agreed-upon rule for commas (by many/most conventions), so I would make the change, but am not particularly concerned either way. (hehehe I used a comma there)
    The Procedural Rules of the Underhusen Act
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    The Speaker (or standing Speaker) may deem members of the Underhusen "inactive" if they are not present for a prolonged period of time, this status can be ignored if supplanted by either the "inactive" member stating they are no longer inactive in the Underhusen or by majority vote of all current Skrifa.
    This comma should be a period.
    Or a semicolon. Or a conjunction.
    The Procedural Rules of the Underhusen Act
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    During this suspension no proposals may be introduced, motioned on, or voted on in the Underhusen.
    There should be a comma after "suspension."
    I'd argue that this is a style choice, though I personally would put a comma.
    All Underhusen Seating Acts
    There is apparently no format used for all of these acts and they're all formatted differently and named differently. It got better in the last three Seating Acts, but one of them had quotation marks while the other two had italicized words. These could be fixed, but it's probably better to just have a set format in the future.

    Also, every single Underhusen Seating Act does not capitalize "act" where it says "This act shall be entitled..."
    My Suggested Underhusen Seating Act format for the future
    Title
    1. This Act shall be entitled the Underhusen Seats for the [Underhusen number] Storting Act.

    Seating
    2. The number of Skrifa in the [Underhusen number] session of the Underhusen shall be [seat number] (seat number).
    (Notice how there's a space before the parenthesis)
    Inconsistent style is an issue across all Wintreath law, not just the Seating Acts.
    Procedural Rules of the Underhusen Amendments
    There are two "Procedural Rules of the Underhusen Amendment VI" amendments.
    I think you mean that the first "VI" should be a "IV." I guess @BraveSirRobin could fix that?
    Procedural Rules of the Underhusen Amendments
    There is also no ninth amendment.
    I believe that "Structural Amendments" was treated as Amendment IX (much as "Omnibus Amendments" was treated as Amendment I).
    That concludes my report on the grammar errors in the Laws of Wintreath (*phew* :P).

    If anyone wants to give me feedback on this (*cough cough* @taulover), feel free to do so. I'll leave this here for awhile to wait for feedback and discussion, then I'll try to actually get these errors fixed.

    P.S. There are some Oxford Comma errors, and I don't know if I should include those. I really like the Oxford Comma, but I don't know if it matters enough to include it here.
    So I've just spent over an hour and a half going over your report... As Gerrick said, this must've taken forever to do. Despite my nitpickings, overall this is a very nice and thorough check of Wintrean law.

    I like Oxford commas, but I see no need to add them, as it's right either way.

    Also, considering all the comma nitpickings, I highly recommend reading the New Yorker piece "Confessions of a Comma Queen." Overall just a fun read about grammar, style, and copyediting.
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