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 @taulover my apologize I just had a rough day yesterday, but everything okay now 

First off I do want to apologize for my relative lack of response here (I planned to respond yesterday, however I decided to take some time for myself, which I will be doing again today. So I may to respond to questions quickly.)

Now as for the the whole, not needing to be apart of the community for a long time. That is true, however there is also something else IRC activity. A good portion of our citizens use it, so those that do generally use IRC have a better chance of being elected (as both HannahB and Hugsim did, newcomers that got elected to the UH rather soon after joining and were some of the best members that we have had in there. ) Were rather active on IRC. Libertarin you haven't really gotten involved with any aspect of the community as far as I can tell. You haven't really gotten on IRC, and you haven't even really been posting here. In fact your statement after the last election, "...after this election I will get to know the people of Wintreath better." seems to have fallen flat. Further last election you only made vague claims and statements, but have since failed to even expound on them. I mean you really haven't given me any reason to vote for you, other than just being here.

So I guess I have to ask you, WHY should I vote for you?

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@Chanku I have to say good question look I try to be active here everyday, as you know in the last election I campaign really hard, and the reason why I campaign is to show people I can take these election serious and I hope if elected Underhusen I can take it seriously. I know this might not convince you to vote for me but later after the election  I will post here more on Wintreath

And I can keep that promise 

@Chanku I have to say good question look I try to be active here everyday, as you know in the last election I campaign really hard, and the reason why I campaign is to show people I can take these election serious and I hope if elected Underhusen I can take it seriously. I know this might not convince you to vote for me but later after the election  I will post here more on Wintreath

And I can keep that promise 

Again more vague and empty statements really. You've just said the same things you said last time. Further why wait until AFTER the election? Why not start now? What you have promised does not require a seat within the Storting. So again why not start engaging now? Wintreath is not a political region, so if you want to be elected, it would be best to start engaging with the community.

@Chanku I have posted I have started to engage with the community I don't know what you are talking about if you look at my posts I have engage in this community

9/57 posts are non-election posts that actually try to interact with the community. That is 15.9% of your posts. This is counting your citizenship post and the 5 topics you made. Of those only 55.6% of those posts were made outside of an election (8.8% of your total posts) were made outside of the election, counting your citizenship application and the three other topics prior to you stating you will run for office. Discounting those four posts, which were semi-required, only one post has not been during an election (1.8% of your total posts, or 20% of your non-election posts). Of that one, it was concerning Wintreath Politics. I also haven't seen you (or heard of you) actually being on the IRC either. So as far as I see it, you aren't really interacting with the community. In fact one of your five required posts was you jumping right into politics without even looking else or trying to get involved with the community, outside of those required posts.

I will give you the fact that you have started a little, yes, however not as much as you should have and should be doing. You say you will interact more with the community and yet you continue to focus your attention on politics here, near exclusively. You have not posted on IRC, nor have you even offered a reason for not being on it. Now if you have gotten on IRC while I was not around, and talked and stuff then I will concede and give you that. You seem to not understand Wintreath's community and it's values either. You have continued to fail to actually present many reasons to actually vote for you, other than somewhat nonsensical ramblings and being a candidate. You claim to be active daily within the community, yet your posts indicate otherwise and you are rarely on IRC. I will admit a lot of my posts involve the Storting and the Underhusen, and I am the most active during my times in the Underhusen. However it's not the only thing I've done, or do, and I am also active on IRC. As I said before Wintreath IS NOT a political region, and I am honestly unsure if you fully and actually understand what that means.

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@Chanku I never said Wintreath is a political region but the fact you keep mentioning that I find that offensive hike I would never say anything about how you post. But I get it I need to engage more in the community (In which I have) but I will do it more often.

@Wintermoot By any chance do you know when will the election the election begin

@Chanku I never said Wintreath is a political region but the fact you keep mentioning that I find that offensive hike I would never say anything about how you post. But I get it I need to engage more in the community (In which I have) but I will do it more often.

You never said it, but you keep acting like it is. Actions speak louder than words Libertarin, keep that in mind. You can speak all you want, but if your actions don't reflect that you can certainly expect to be called out on it. Your somewhat nonsensical (and sometimes non sequitur) rhetoric for the questions you have been asked, when you lack a definite answer, honestly reflects this.

Also I only brought up how you post, because it was directly relevant to the topic at hand. You acted, or at least were, completely oblivious to the fact that you haven't engaged with the community (despite a month and several weeks of being able too). In fact, after the previous election, and prior to this election, you only posted one other time, and then started to get involved only after you were called out on it. Literally minutes afterwards, and in fact the only recent posts are, again, after you were called out on it. In fact within a few minutes after you responded to my post telling you that you need to engage in the community you tagged me in another post (which seems to have been an attempt to try and convince me you were interacting with the community, albeit a poor one). In fact this leads itself to a trend that I've noticed in your posts, but isn't exactly relevant here.

I'm not trying to be too aggressive here, and have actively tried to be less so than I may tend to me, as I tend to be rather abrasive at times. However one thing you can be assured that I will do is fact-check people. Especially during elections.

@Chanku It's very good your doing fact-checking you got to get the facts, but here are the in me (and tell if I'm wrong this is an open forum I created) I have posted in this community (and not only elections, you should know that because you have seen my posts) I have engage in this community more than I did the last time, and I don't think that wintreath is a political region (but you keep complying that)

And When I became a Wintreath Citizen, the first thing I did was to intreact with community so I can get to know them better you look it for yourself

@Chanku It's very good your doing fact-checking you got to get the facts, but here are the in me (and tell if I'm wrong this is an open forum I created) I have posted in this community (and not only elections, you should know that because you have seen my posts) I have engage in this community more than I did the last time, and I don't think that wintreath is a political region (but you keep complying that)

If you had read everything I said, I said that I did admit that one of your posts was made outside of an election period, and that not all of them (although a large majority of them) are not for politics.

Also you haven't really engaged or interacted with us much. (I would argue you haven't really done either as the definition of engage is "participate or become involved in." and interact is "act in such a way as to have an effect on another." You haven't gotten involved in the region outside of elections, and as we are a non-political region very few people consider actually running for office a valid way to interact or engage the community).

The reason I keep telling you that, is because your actions have shown that you truly don't understand Wintreath's culture, or it's community. You don't understand what I mean when I say Wintreath is a non-political community. I mean that traditional politics, especially traditional politicking (which is what you have been doing) doesn't work here. At all. Your engagement and interaction with the community is poor, and barely existent. If you call that engaging I would have to say, I  would hate to see what you call law or leadership.

And When I became a Wintreath Citizen, the first thing I did was to intreact with community so I can get to know them better you look it for yourself

Because you literally had too. You haven't even responded in any of the threads you did start at first, even your AMA thread, in which you were asked a question. In fact in all of the threads you have started that were non-political, you have only responded or posted a second time in one.

@Pengu what would you do if you become Underhusen, what are your plans?

Well, there are two things that I'd really love to see passed, ideally in my time here:  Some implementation of the Krone that we can agree on, and an Extended Citizenship bill that opens our doors a bit more.

The first is because it's something it's been discussed so much that I'm actually a bit disappointed that it hasn't been discussed further and become an actual reality.  The Krone is something we have been talking about for well over a year now, and something the cabinet has continuously discussed on implementing...but there's been zero effort to discuss ideas as to how to utilize it.  Last term, ideas trickled a bit in the form of a banking and upcoming commerce bill, but the first was utilized far too early for something that didn't exist, and the latter never happened.

I think the time for discussing the idea of it is over, and we need to focus on making it an actual thing if we want it.  Or we need to discuss as a messageboard whether we even want a regional currency in the first place...or if it's just something that sounds nice, but we don't really want.

The second idea is because as I see it, we're slowly moving away from being a Nationstates-centric messageboard.  Therefore, the requirement to have an active nation in order to be a citizen is becoming obsolete.  As you know, I also don't support the bill that gives restricted citizenship to those who don't play Nationstates.  I think if you put the effort into the forums, you deserve to be a full citizen unless that status is revoked due to non-posting/activity or it's been revoked by the Underhusen/Overhusen or monarch for violations against Wintreath or its members.

I completely support Wintermoot's proposal that extends citizenship to those who are active in Nationstates OR in the forum itself.  It's something that recognizes the changing tides and embraces it.  The fact that it's Wintermoot himself that is making this proposal says a lot, and if the founder and monarch himself is making an expansion bill, I think it should be supported.

That's why I would push for people to discuss and vote on both of these topics, and hopefully see both of them become a reality if I'm elected into the UH.

In other news, can this go back to being a general debate thread?  Chanku, you've more than made your point, and it's beating a dead horse at this point trying to push further.  There's more candidates in this election than just the two of you, so let's go back to asking other candidates their questions, please.

@Pengu thank you I think @Chanku has made his point also.

Remember chanku ask questions to the other  candidates I'm not the only candidate who is running for Underhusen

That last statement was encompassing for everyone, not just Chanku.  There's 5 candidates, each capable (myself included) of asking questions galore concerning the seat.  Let me pull up @BraveSirRobin's past steak fry questions as an example:

1. Before we get into the real meat of this event, I wanted to ask all of you—what make you decide to run for the Underhusen?  What do you think the main goal of the current Underhusen should be?

2. As we all know, for an organism to remain successful and prosperous, it must expand.  What do you believe is the best way to catalyse growth and the expansion of Wintreath within NationStates?  Are there strategies of other regions that you believe could be adopted by us to increase the success of our recruitment efforts?

3. What do you think is the biggest problem facing Wintreath at this point?

4. Who is your favourite politician from history?

5. What is your favourite form of government?

6. Are there any other questions that you believe candidates should answer?  As this is a more informal debate (it's a steak fry, after all) feel free to engage in debate, or productive discussion, with your fellow candidates and upstanding citizens of the Wintreath community! 

7. And now, arguably the most important question of them all—how would you like your steak?

Many of those I think still should be asked an answered by all candidates.  I'll even start.

1. I'm running in this special election because there are some necessary changes I want to see happen, two of which are mentioned in my above post.  Since the UH has been somewhat quiet this term, I'm hoping to shake that up some more a bit.  I think the main goal needs to be coming to a decision on which Citizenship law we want to pass to expand citizenship requirements.

2.  I think the current course we're taking is fine.  We've got puzzles and games that we send out to continue interest from other regions, and we've got games and contests that we have here to continue building interest in both friends and new citizens wanting to be here and potentially stay.  If we keep on this course, we should be fine.  The more people see us as open, welcoming/inviting, and friendly, the more we'll have people wanting to be a part.

3. Indecisiveness.  One of the biggest things we've been discussing is overhauling the UH/OH, and it's been met with massive indecisiveness because there hasn't been a spot that people can generally agree on.  We want reform, yet we don't want it.  We want a different, better system...yet we don't.  People have urged for things to change, yet they vote against that change.  It's hit in instances like that, in instances with our regional currency as well as other matters, and it's a massive problem that needs to change if we expect to really expand and grow into a better place than we are now.  In the first of this event I stated that we lacked direction, and that goes hand in hand with this problem.

4. I'll quote what I said in the first debate that BraveSirRobin made, since it stands true even now:

I've never been the biggest into politics (I mean real-life politics), so I don't have a particular favorite at the top of my head whose career I know well enough to make such an established decision.  If they were a politician that was for equality in all forms of the word, then chances are I liked them since first and foremost, that's my biggest thing I want from a politician.

5. Since I'm more of a Democratic socialist that believes in ideologies from both areas...a government that fits that is one I can agree with.

6.  I think any questions asked, if they're within reasonable grounds, should be answered by candidates.

7. Medium well.  I don't care too much for the "pink" in my steak, although I won't go crazy if there's some.

1. Before we get into the real meat of this event, I wanted to ask all of you—what make you decide to run for the Underhusen?  What do you think the main goal of the current Underhusen should be?

Fixing the issues that we have with our current system

2. As we all know, for an organism to remain successful and prosperous, it must expand.  What do you believe is the best way to catalyse growth and the expansion of Wintreath within NationStates?  Are there strategies of other regions that you believe could be adopted by us to increase the success of our recruitment efforts?

More recruitment and increasing our NS presense. However we must remain within NS

3. What do you think is the biggest problem facing Wintreath at this point?

The loss of our NS identify

4. Who is your favourite politician from history?

Sanders

5. What is your favourite form of government?

Restricted Constitutional Autocracy.

7. And now, arguably the most important question of them all—how would you like your steak?

Medium-Rare