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Well shit. I don't want to start a bandwagon, but if we don't vote soon, someone will just get chosen randomly...

Well... what now?

At random, we have a 3/4 chance of losing, because one friend (three out of the four of us) will get lynched, and then another will be killed by the wendigo overnight, putting it at 1 to 1: an automatic loss for us. We can't risk those odds, so we should go off of anything better than chance.

@taulover @Bootsie @xXTheHydraXx

At random, we have a 3/4 chance of losing, because one friend (three out of the four of us) will get lynched, and then another will be killed by the wendigo overnight, putting it at 1 to 1: an automatic loss for us. We can't risk those odds, so we should go off of anything better than chance.

@taulover @Bootsie @xXTheHydraXx

We actually have a 50% chance of losing, because the Player cannot be killed. It's still very bad chances though, and if that happens, the remaining good guy with only have a 50% chance of winning.

*will only have

So... what shall we do?

Okay, I'll bite.

I'm really not sure who to vote for, but I suspect Barnes and Bootsie more. Barnes because he's most vocal, Bootsie because he's most quiet.

However, something seems a bit off with Barnes. He seems to have successfully walked the fine line between being suspiciously loud and suspiciously quiet.

Furthermore, since we only have four people left, each with unique roles, we can attempt to link each role to each person. (Of course, I can't post my own attempt, since that would give away my role.) Using this method, Barnes seems to be the most likely candidate for Wendigo to me.

Since voting is better than doing nothing, I'm voting for Barnes. Hopefully, it isn't the wrong choice.

Hmm... I'm still torn on who to vote for, but if I vote for someone other than Barnes, it'll all come down to chance, since it seems like nobody's going to vote now that time's technically up. Therefore, my vote falls with Barnes.

I'll post the story later.

Barnes, aka Tumara Smith, the Player was accused by the friends (in this case, the friend), and killed.

It's time to split up, folks!

Wendigo: Send me your night kill.

Barnes: A scenario will be sent shortly.

Remaining players: You must make a decision this night, So the dead are asked to please not talk in this Split Up.

The decision you must make will dictate how the end will go:

Should the Wendigo choose to kill a victim, there is a potential glitch that may affect the end, which I didn't foresee happening until now.

If they choose to kill someone, the game will be left with one friend, one Wendigo, and the Player.

As the Player cannot vote nor speak in the thread, you'll be given 2 choices:

Choice 1: Remove the Player from the "Remaining Friends" list.  They'd still share the win with the good guys if they succeed, and obviously they still work behind the scenes in the final scenario...but they won't count towards the total remaining friends.  This would pretty much hand the win to the Wendigo...however, it would be a fair win since the Player was voted off, and thus would have been killed without the rule (and technically is since they can't vote/talk in the thread afterwards anyways).

Choice 2: Leave as is, let the two vote in the final round, and leave it to a tie breaker.  This essentially would leave the game completely to chance, and would probably be the choice that would be neutral for either side of the field, since it's anyone's game.

The third choice would to be to give the player voting rights and rescind the earlier rule about them not being a part even after voted.  However, that might be seen as completely unfair since it essentially gives the good guys a "freebie" to where, in this kind of scenario, they'd always be able to win so long as it's just one bad guy left.  That being the case, this choice won't be offered.

So between @Bootsie, @taulover, and @xXTheHydra, please choose between the two choices.

Of course, it's possible that the Wendigo may choose to not claim a victim, and the three of you might make it together, and may successfully implicate the Wendigo in the final round.  However, it's entirely plausible that they will claim a victim as well.  And it's also plausible that if they don't claim someone, you could vote off another friend, bringing things back to this scenario. 

This phase will end at 7:30PM PST tomorrow, aka Tuesday.  If no choice has been voted on or it comes out a tie (aka one person not voting), then the choice will be made for you.

@xXTheHydraXx
silly mentions.  <.<

Choice 2.

Is this even a choice?

Choice 1 = ~0% chance of winning.
Choice 2 = 50% chance of winning (assuming that you're a good guy and don't die).

Choice 2

And @Pengu... I asked you during the last night round whether the Player counts as alive for determining who wins, and you said yes.

Also, if the Player is killed, does he/she count as alive for deciding if the wolves win?

Yes.  Since the player cannot die, they will last to the end.

So I already assumed Choice 2, and made the decision to vote for Barnes with that in mind (my secondary suspicion was of him being the Player, so it would make strategic sense to vote for him instead of an alternate candidate).

Is this even a choice?

Choice 1 = ~0% chance of winning.
Choice 2 = 50% chance of winning (assuming that you're a good guy and don't die).

Choice 2

And @Pengu... I asked you during the last night round whether the Player counts as alive for determining who wins, and you said yes.

Also, if the Player is killed, does he/she count as alive for deciding if the wolves win?

Yes.  Since the player cannot die, they will last to the end.

So I already assumed Choice 2, and made the decision to vote for Barnes with that in mind (my secondary suspicion was of him being the Player, so it would make strategic sense to vote for him instead of an alternate candidate).

Keep in mind two things: 

#1

Should the Wendigo choose to kill a victim, there is a potential glitch that may affect the end, which I didn't foresee happening until now.

Meaning it's something I hadn't even considered until votes for Barnes had happened.  So when I answered your question then, this scenario hadn't even crossed my mind since I was pretty sure Barnes would never get voted off.

#2: Choice one is rescinding that rule.  They'll be alive in the sense of being able to do the scenario and taking the win with the good guys, but they wouldn't be counted as a living player because of how the final scenario would be if the Wendigo chooses to kill someone.  When it's a dead-but-still-alive character, a friend, and the bad guy...and only the two latter can vote, it's exceptionally obvious who the bad guy is to the remaining two players.  And turning it into a game of chance when it's two actually living players when for all intensive purposes the Wendigo rightly deserves the win may not be seen as fair OR right.  It'd be seen as a hollow victory for the good guys because there just happened to be a flaw in a role that they chose to exploit.

Point being, the bad guys have played a great game so far, and the Wendigo has done a great job as well, since they've yet to be accused by the friends, and still have their identity hidden.  The friends have played a fair game, however you're down to 3 active friends (4 counting the player even though he can't do anything in the thread itself) now simply because the bad guys have been playing a great game.  The question now is whether you think it's really fair to leave it to chance in the last round because of a role that can't even vote/talk now so you can still have that chance to win...or to bow out if the Wendigo chooses to claim a victim this night and give them the victory that they'd otherwise have if the Player had been a killable role.

Really, it's about the precedent in the end.  This was the first time introducing a completely immortal character, and a flaw was exposed unexpectedly.  This won't be a type of character I'll be introducing again simply for this reason.  Because, again, it begs being an unfair advantage for the good guys to steal a win when the bad guys have put up a great game.

DEAD

Shall we call it a draw? Anti-climactic, but that seems to be the only truly fair outcome. The good guys have been playing a great game within the rules as they understood them too, so as much as I want the baddies to win, this sudden rule change wouldn't be completely fair either.

Indeed, I was playing under the assumption of an immortal Player. It might not have crossed your mind, Pengu, but it definitely did cross ours:

We actually have a 50% chance of losing, because the Player cannot be killed. It's still very bad chances though, and if that happens, the remaining good guy with only have a 50% chance of winning.