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  • @BraveSirRobin: Remember that transwarp drives do not exist in this RP.
      Yeah.  I just haven't edited them out though, yet.  Too busy adding relevant information.   

    But while we're on that note: 
    Transwarp drives are slower than hyperdrive,  right?  (At least they are in Star Trek)  And warp drives capable of 9.999999999999999999999 are practically trans-warp drives.  They're basically just advanced warp drives, from what I understand.  Does your research conflict?  Or are there transwarp drives in realms other than Star Trek?  Probably the only thing that I'd do would be to strike "transwarp" and replace it with "Warp 9.9999999-capable" drive or something.  I think that the capabilities of the ship aren't really enhanced too much with a warp drive that's really fast, especially when hyperdrives are a thing...
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  • I don't see how Warp 10 is a theoretical impossibility.
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  • I wanted warp drives to be much slower than hyperdrives in this RP. Transwarp drives are in some places explained to be being everywhere at once, which seems to make it a fundamentally different technology than warp drive.

    Considering Wookieepedia states that civilian starships are usually Class 5 or higher, I'd expect a top speed from warp drives to only be equivalent to around Class 7 or 8.
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  • I don't see how Warp 10 is a theoretical impossibility.
    It was placed as a limit by the authors of Star Trek as a handwave limit.
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  • I wanted warp drives to be much slower than hyperdrives in this RP. Transwarp drives are in some places explained to be being everywhere at once, which seems to make it a fundamentally different technology than warp drive.

    Considering Wookieepedia states that civilian starships are usually Class 5 or higher, I'd expect a top speed from warp drives to only be equivalent to around Class 7 or 8.
     
    Warp 10 is the asymptote of the graph, right?  The derivative is infinity at that point.  The more 9s that are added to 9.99999, the faster the speed, exponentially, if my understanding of Star Trek warp technology is valid.  When I talk about a transwarp drive, I mean a warp drive modified to allow speeds closer and closer to warp 10, none actually achieving it, because obviously, that'd be a HUGE tactical advantage, being both everywhere and nowhere at once.  I use the "transwarp" word in the sense that the Borg use it, not to go faster than warp 10, just to get closer to it.  Does that make sense?  I recognise that if you're interpreting transwarp as faster than warp 10 then of course you'd think that it'd need to be infinitely nerfed.  (Get it?  Because that sense of transwarp means infinite velocity?  :P)

    I don't see how Warp 10 is a theoretical impossibility.
    It was placed as a limit by the authors of Star Trek as a handwave limit.
      Warp 10 is infinite velocity, basically.  Just picture a graph like (x^3)/(10-x) over the interval from 1 to 10.  Adjust the scale a bit and that's basically a warp velocity graph :)
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  • I was led to believe that Warp intervals worked just like Mach intervals. Mach 5 is the speed of sound multiplied by 5. And if Warp 10 is infinite velocity, why can't you get from one side of the galaxy to the other in a matter of months instead of decades with a Warp 9.97 engine?
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    BraveSirRobin
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  • I was led to believe that Warp intervals worked just like Mach intervals. Mach 5 is the speed of sound multiplied by 5. And if Warp 10 is infinite velocity, why can't you get from one side of the galaxy to the other in a matter of months instead of decades with a Warp 9.97 engine?
    The slope goes up quite drastically with the Warp 9 stuff.  Warp 9.999999...(insert about 50 more nines)...999999 would would take less time.  Keep in mind, Voyager was 1) a Federation Starship and 2) a light scout, nothing as advanced as the Enterprise or anything.  I think it's max warp was like warp 9.2 or something for 10 hours or something.  It could probably only maintain warp 7 for long periods of time, I think, according to the series. 
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    BraveSirRobin
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  • However, you could be thinking of TOS, which does employ a system sort of like Mach, where every warp increment is the warp speed (for example, warp 7) cubed (so for warp 7, 343*SOL). 
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  • The explanation from TNG is that velocity (in c) = (warp factor)^(10/3), up to Warp 9. After that, it goes on to an unexplained graph with asymptote at warp factor = 10.
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    It seems I have run out of room for my post. Here is Part 2.

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  • @Commander_Zemas a 10 km ship is one thing, but a 20 km ship? Come on! That thing wouldn't be capable of FTL, and it would fly at a snail's pace! 10 km was pushing it, but now you've just gone too far.
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    @Commander_Zemas a 10 km ship is one thing, but a 20 km ship? Come on! That thing wouldn't be capable of FTL, and it would fly at a snail's pace! 10 km was pushing it, but now you've just gone too far.

    i just realised that i made it longer than the megaproject. woops
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    @Commander_Zemas a 10 km ship is one thing, but a 20 km ship? Come on! That thing wouldn't be capable of FTL, and it would fly at a snail's pace! 10 km was pushing it, but now you've just gone too far.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Viscount-class_Star_Defender

    The viscount class has a class 1 hyperdrive and it is 17 km. :P
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  • @Commander_Zemas a 10 km ship is one thing, but a 20 km ship? Come on! That thing wouldn't be capable of FTL, and it would fly at a snail's pace! 10 km was pushing it, but now you've just gone too far.
    The 19-km long Executor-class Star Dreadnought (Super Star Destroyer) has a Class 2.0 hyperdrive. The Death Star II is 160 km in diameter and has a Class 3.0 hyperdrive.

    If you're going to accept other high-tech level things in terms of FTL speed (such as a Class 0.6 hyperdrive troop transport ship, which is ridiculous when the Falcon is Class 0.5), I think you'll have to accept this too.
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    I've already changed it from 20 km cause I forgot about the Aetherius.
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