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  • Very dishonorable. :P But just know that you won't get a volley off on my ships without my ships getting a volley off on yours. Engaging me, even with stealthy hit and run tactics, is not going to be high on the list of good ideas.
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  • Hate to say it, Robin, but with their gravity manipulators you wouldn't be able to flee from a Pendleton. You would also have trouble hitting it. Though I have to ask. I was looking at your Factbook and could not figure out how your cloaking device works. Does it reflect light? Just hide heat emissions? Or does it do something else?
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  • Hate to say it, Robin, but with their gravity manipulators you wouldn't be able to flee from a Pendleton. You would also have trouble hitting it. Though I have to ask. I was looking at your Factbook and could not figure out how your cloaking device works. Does it reflect light? Just hide heat emissions? Or does it do something else?
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  • How do these "gravity manipulators" work? Do they project graviton fields? And any gravitational force powerful enough to alter a projectile's path to completely miss a ship that's kilometers long is going to be strong enough to make it hard for that ship to keep a stable flight. And I mean really hard.

    The cloaking device works by emitting particles of a certain type which form a field around the ship that bends light around it and nullifies ship sensors. However, the target cloaked ship can be detected if power levels rise too high, so non key systems that use a lot of power, like ship weapons, must be powered down in order to be completely invisible. This is the reason why I don't fancy Star Trek ship cloaks.
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  • How do these "gravity manipulators" work? Do they project graviton fields? And any gravitational force powerful enough to alter a projectile's path to completely miss a ship that's kilometers long is going to be strong enough to make it hard for that ship to keep a stable flight. And I mean really hard.

    The cloaking device works by emitting particles of a certain type which form a field around the ship that bends light around it and nullifies ship sensors. However, the target cloaked ship can be detected if power levels rise too high, so non key systems that use a lot of power, like ship weapons, must be powered down in order to be completely invisible. This is the reason why I don't fancy Star Trek ship cloaks.

    Gravity manipulators work by throwing gravitons to a specific location. It can't project enough to totally destroy a ship (because that would create a black hole) but it's enough to destabilise flight and prevent effective retreat.

    And your right. A gravity well strong enough to prevent hits on the broadside of a Pendleton would not be feasible. But it would work if the Pendleton was facing the shot. And even if the shot didn't miss, the gravity well would bleed off momentum and make it hard for whatever the projectile was to penetrate the kinetic shield.
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  • Haha artificial quantum singularity reactors are actually what power Romulan ships.  It's also why Romulan ships can never be scrapped, only refitted.  Also, it'd be hard to create any gravity wells capable of disrupting plasma weapon fire... because you'd need SO MUCH POWER.  Also you can't use gravity wells in an atmosphere, for pretty obvious reasons. 
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  • Haha artificial quantum singularity reactors are actually what power Romulan ships.  It's also why Romulan ships can never be scrapped, only refitted.  Also, it'd be hard to create any gravity wells capable of disrupting plasma weapon fire... because you'd need SO MUCH POWER.  Also you can't use gravity wells in an atmosphere, for pretty obvious reasons.

    All true, Robin. But Pendleton valss Cruisers were never ment for atmospheric combat.

    And I refer you to the second part of my previous statement.

    I like arguing fake science, damn disappointed I missed the first round. At least I get this:]
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  • Haha artificial quantum singularity reactors are actually what power Romulan ships.  It's also why Romulan ships can never be scrapped, only refitted.  Also, it'd be hard to create any gravity wells capable of disrupting plasma weapon fire... because you'd need SO MUCH POWER.  Also you can't use gravity wells in an atmosphere, for pretty obvious reasons.

    All true, Robin. But Pendleton valss Cruisers were never ment for atmospheric combat.

    And I refer you to the second part of my previous statement.

    I like arguing fake science, damn disappointed I missed the first round. At least I get this:]
      It's really fun how it's mostly made up, but that there's ish-science to go on thanks to the sheer number of fans of Star Wars and Star Trek.  :)
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  • How do these "gravity manipulators" work? Do they project graviton fields? And any gravitational force powerful enough to alter a projectile's path to completely miss a ship that's kilometers long is going to be strong enough to make it hard for that ship to keep a stable flight. And I mean really hard.

    The cloaking device works by emitting particles of a certain type which form a field around the ship that bends light around it and nullifies ship sensors. However, the target cloaked ship can be detected if power levels rise too high, so non key systems that use a lot of power, like ship weapons, must be powered down in order to be completely invisible. This is the reason why I don't fancy Star Trek ship cloaks.

    Gravity manipulators work by throwing gravitons to a specific location. It can't project enough to totally destroy a ship (because that would create a black hole) but it's enough to destabilise flight and prevent effective retreat.

    And your right. A gravity well strong enough to prevent hits on the broadside of a Pendleton would not be feasible. But it would work if the Pendleton was facing the shot. And even if the shot didn't miss, the gravity well would bleed off momentum and make it hard for whatever the projectile was to penetrate the kinetic shield.
    Those gravitons would affect your Pendletons the same as the enemy ships relative to your distance from it. Just making sure you realize that.

    Another thing: The gravity well would not bleed speed unless the shot went through, or close enough to, the center of the well. If it went around the well, the shot would keep momentum or even speed up as it slingshots around the well's center.
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  • If you want to know the base for the second part of my last post, look at the Voyager missions. They used the gravity of the gas giants to slingshot the Voyager probes and accelerate their flight speeds.

    Also, I edited my last IC post to make it look like it wasn't thrown together in two seconds.
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  • If you want to know the base for the second part of my last post, look at the Voyager missions. They used the gravity of the gas giants to slingshot the Voyager probes and accelerate their flight speeds.

    Also, I edited my last IC post to make it look like it wasn't thrown together in two seconds.

    but they also made sure they ended up facing the right direction.

    And thanks, I appreciate it!
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  • but they also made sure they ended up facing the right direction.
    I fail to see how that has any correlation to objects accelerating when slingshotting around a gravity field. Yes, they made little adjustments to make sure they were going the right direction, but the acceleration was going to happen regardless.
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  • Yes, there would be acceleration but the slingshot might make it miss entirely
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  • It had to be on an interception course for the next gas giant each time with years of traveling in between each one. The tiniest mistake would send it millions of miles off course. That's not what's happening in our ship battles. I will admit that shots which slingshot have a good chance to miss their target but not by much.
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  • It had to be on an interception course for the next gas giant each time with years of traveling in between each one. The tiniest mistake would send it millions of miles off course. That's not what's happening in our ship battles. I will admit that shots which slingshot have a good chance to miss their target but not by much.

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