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I must say, I envy you both. I've always been so insecure about my body and looks. It's one of the reasons I developed an extroverted personality. I figure if I distract peeps with conversation and an over the top personal that people would never guess my low self esteem haha. Also it's one of the reasons I love makeup so much. Being able to alter my appearance is like a dream come true for me. Granted it doesn't help with my body at all but it's a great way to distract.

lol, I wish I had an interesting, extroverted personality...sometimes I just think I'm too boring for anyone to be interested in me as a person.

Hush your mouth. You're an intriguing individual on many different levels. So I don't want to hear that. I developed my persona as a response to my own self image issues. It's not how I always was. Right up until a few years ago I was anti social and very much introverted. I just was lucky enough to have had a friend who helped me break that shell.

To be attractive to others, you have to be attractive to yourself.  If you can't look in the mirror and like what you see, then it reflects outward.  It doesn't matter what others think and feel...it's all about how you feel.  If you feel desirable, then that's the aura that you put out and that others will pick up on.

Sure, some will pass on by and move on to someone else, but that's just how it goes.  Even those that are considered "desirable" by society's standards have their own hurdles to get through, and the vain ones aren't always lucky enough to have those "good" looks forever.  Everyone has preferences for what they look for...but that doesn't mean that you should go through any changes to suit a group of people.  Go through them for yourself, because you want to change for you.

It's not that I consider myself unattractive really...it's just now I'm starting to see results and I want it all, I guess. It'd just be a fun change to be the guy everyone wants for awhile, who everyone fantasizes about when they're alone doing naughty things, who gets pursued rather than always perusing others...it's not that it really bothers me, I just think it'd be fun to experience that. If I were to really go into it though, I think my issue has more to do with charisma than physical attractiveness...having been a shy loner most of my life, it doesn't come naturally to me. Even today, it's hard for me to strike up conversations with people I'm not close with, even online, cause I end up worrying that I'm just bothering them and that they would rather be doing something else rather than talk to me.

lol, it's not even all that important to me to be honest...just one of those things that come up when I think of what

I must say, I envy you both. I've always been so insecure about my body and looks. It's one of the reasons I developed an extroverted personality. I figure if I distract peeps with conversation and an over the top personal that people would never guess my low self esteem haha. Also it's one of the reasons I love makeup so much. Being able to alter my appearance is like a dream come true for me. Granted it doesn't help with my body at all but it's a great way to distract.

To be fair, I've only gotten comfortable with myself in the recent years.  I used to be really insecure with myself all around, and it's only been the last...3-4 years that I've worked that insecurity away to where I'm happy with myself.  Sure, it'd be nice to have that chiseled physique, but I'm alright without it as well. 

Now I just have to work on my trust issues.

See, I absolutely loathe my body. It's so weirdly proportioned in my eyes. And it doesn't seem to matter what I do I can't fix it. It's a source of frustration to me that I can't shake. If it weren't for my better half I'd probably spend most of my days stressing out about it.

Hush your mouth. You're an intriguing individual on many different levels. So I don't want to hear that. I developed my persona as a response to my own self image issues. It's not how I always was. Right up until a few years ago I was anti social and very much introverted. I just was lucky enough to have had a friend who helped me break that shell.

Tell me more about how I'm intriguing.

And what's the secret to breaking out of that shell?

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You're quite the reddit expert, aren't you?

Thanks

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Well I am the Wintreath Records holder...

I see...so where's the best porn on reddit, then?

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Well I am the Wintreath Records holder...

I see...so where's the best porn on reddit, then?

Serious answer: There's a subreddit with a wiki page of all the NSFW subreddits. (NSFW link)

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Well I am the Wintreath Records holder...

I see...so where's the best porn on reddit, then?

Serious answer: There's a subreddit with a wiki page of all the NSFW subreddits. (NSFW link)

Forgive me for I hath sinned.............. Why did I click on it? I regret everything now... EVERYTHING! Burn my eyes please!


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Serious answer: There's a subreddit with a wiki page of all the NSFW subreddits. (NSFW link)

Wow...well, and here I thought you might reply with something more...subjective.

Hush your mouth. You're an intriguing individual on many different levels. So I don't want to hear that. I developed my persona as a response to my own self image issues. It's not how I always was. Right up until a few years ago I was anti social and very much introverted. I just was lucky enough to have had a friend who helped me break that shell.

Tell me more about how I'm intriguing.

And what's the secret to breaking out of that shell?

So, to begin, you're well spoken and can hold a damp conversation. Which to me is a helluva plus. Also, you've got a way with word when it comes to describing things in the adult section. Secondly, you're up to date on the world around d you! I can bring up just about anything and have an engaging and informed conversation with you. And playing vidya games is also a bonus.

On the second, I don't know what the secret is. I had a friend/roommate who used to bring me out to a gay club and introduce me to people. After that, it just kinda slowly happened. I forced myself I to social situations that made me uncomfortable. And there were hurdles. A few times I made a faux pa and agonized over it. I locked myself away feeling embarrassed but then made the decision to try again.

So, to begin, you're well spoken and can hold a damp conversation. Which to me is a helluva plus. Also, you've got a way with word when it comes to describing things in the adult section. Secondly, you're up to date on the world around d you! I can bring up just about anything and have an engaging and informed conversation with you. And playing vidya games is also a bonus.

On the second, I don't know what the secret is. I had a friend/roommate who used to bring me out to a gay club and introduce me to people. After that, it just kinda slowly happened. I forced myself I to social situations that made me uncomfortable. And there were hurdles. A few times I made a faux pa and agonized over it. I locked myself away feeling embarrassed but then made the decision to try again.

That's really sweet of you to say I guess I'm somewhat better when there's a topic being discussed...what I really suck at is small talk. After the normal hi how are you I usually draw a blank in my mind. =/

Ehhhhhh...sounds like there isn't a secret at all, just putting yourself out there and hoping you don't get rejected until you don't care anymore. How did you get over the first few times you made a faux pa? I tend to dwell on things like that and it makes it even worse for me >_>

So, to begin, you're well spoken and can hold a damp conversation. Which to me is a helluva plus. Also, you've got a way with word when it comes to describing things in the adult section. Secondly, you're up to date on the world around d you! I can bring up just about anything and have an engaging and informed conversation with you. And playing vidya games is also a bonus.

On the second, I don't know what the secret is. I had a friend/roommate who used to bring me out to a gay club and introduce me to people. After that, it just kinda slowly happened. I forced myself I to social situations that made me uncomfortable. And there were hurdles. A few times I made a faux pa and agonized over it. I locked myself away feeling embarrassed but then made the decision to try again.

That's really sweet of you to say I guess I'm somewhat better when there's a topic being discussed...what I really suck at is small talk. After the normal hi how are you I usually draw a blank in my mind. =/

Ehhhhhh...sounds like there isn't a secret at all, just putting yourself out there and hoping you don't get rejected until you don't care anymore. How did you get over the first few times you made a faux pa? I tend to dwell on things like that and it makes it even worse for me >_>

Oh I dwelled and brooded for quite some time. But the other half of it was that I worked retail in a small salvage and liquidation store. The only way I was able to keep my job was to be the friendliest person in the store. So at first I started just putting on a happy face every day but eventually I realized that all of these people wereally fascinating and interesting. I found myself being drawn I to each of their stories and tales of their lives. So I guess it was a combination of a friend who went out of her way to make sure I wasn't a total fuck up and a job where I had to be able to socialize and talk to folks.

That being said, I still fuck up now and agin. And it does still eat at me. But ice developed the habit of kicking myself a few times and then saying, the world goes on and so does my life. I do still have a time in spaces designed for gay males though. Everyone always seems so beautiful and I feel so ugly. It's one of the few times you'll see me shrink away or try to avoid notice.

Oh I dwelled and brooded for quite some time. But the other half of it was that I worked retail in a small salvage and liquidation store. The only way I was able to keep my job was to be the friendliest person in the store. So at first I started just putting on a happy face every day but eventually I realized that all of these people wereally fascinating and interesting. I found myself being drawn I to each of their stories and tales of their lives. So I guess it was a combination of a friend who went out of her way to make sure I wasn't a total fuck up and a job where I had to be able to socialize and talk to folks.

That being said, I still fuck up now and agin. And it does still eat at me. But ice developed the habit of kicking myself a few times and then saying, the world goes on and so does my life. I do still have a time in spaces designed for gay males though. Everyone always seems so beautiful and I feel so ugly. It's one of the few times you'll see me shrink away or try to avoid notice.

Hey, you're doing a lot better than I am...I'm such a recluse I can't even imagine going in spaces designed for gay males. Part of it is that it's West Virginia though, so there's not much to do around here even if I wasn't a recluse.

I guess for me, I don't know how take a relationship in real life from just being an acquaintance to being a friend...I have a feeling that being more personal is involved, but I'm not sure the balance between not being personal enough and being too personal. Being cautious doesn't really help, but when I put myself out there I worry that I'm going too far for where I'm at with them at the time, you know?

Oh I dwelled and brooded for quite some time. But the other half of it was that I worked retail in a small salvage and liquidation store. The only way I was able to keep my job was to be the friendliest person in the store. So at first I started just putting on a happy face every day but eventually I realized that all of these people wereally fascinating and interesting. I found myself being drawn I to each of their stories and tales of their lives. So I guess it was a combination of a friend who went out of her way to make sure I wasn't a total fuck up and a job where I had to be able to socialize and talk to folks.

That being said, I still fuck up now and agin. And it does still eat at me. But ice developed the habit of kicking myself a few times and then saying, the world goes on and so does my life. I do still have a time in spaces designed for gay males though. Everyone always seems so beautiful and I feel so ugly. It's one of the few times you'll see me shrink away or try to avoid notice.

Hey, you're doing a lot better than I am...I'm such a recluse I can't even imagine going in spaces designed for gay males. Part of it is that it's West Virginia though, so there's not much to do around here even if I wasn't a recluse.

I guess for me, I don't know how take a relationship in real life from just being an acquaintance to being a friend...I have a feeling that being more personal is involved, but I'm not sure the balance between not being personal enough and being too personal. Being cautious doesn't really help, but when I put myself out there I worry that I'm going too far for where I'm at with them at the time, you know?

Worrying is natural, especially when you're forming  bond with someone. I've found there's never any real definitive moment that someone goes from acquaintance to friend though. I'm not one to ask ab out balance, however. I go 100% from the get go.

So, to begin, you're well spoken and can hold a damp conversation. Which to me is a helluva plus. Also, you've got a way with word when it comes to describing things in the adult section. Secondly, you're up to date on the world around d you! I can bring up just about anything and have an engaging and informed conversation with you. And playing vidya games is also a bonus.

On the second, I don't know what the secret is. I had a friend/roommate who used to bring me out to a gay club and introduce me to people. After that, it just kinda slowly happened. I forced myself I to social situations that made me uncomfortable. And there were hurdles. A few times I made a faux pa and agonized over it. I locked myself away feeling embarrassed but then made the decision to try again.

That's really sweet of you to say I guess I'm somewhat better when there's a topic being discussed...what I really suck at is small talk. After the normal hi how are you I usually draw a blank in my mind. =/

Ehhhhhh...sounds like there isn't a secret at all, just putting yourself out there and hoping you don't get rejected until you don't care anymore. How did you get over the first few times you made a faux pa? I tend to dwell on things like that and it makes it even worse for me >_>

Yeah, it's less a secret and more a daily exercise.  Walk up to a stranger each day and say hi.  Then move up to having small conversations, and just keep upping it when you feel comfortable enough in the area you're at (aka if you're comfortable enough with small talk with strangers, move up to something like talking about current events).  You don't have to be a master of conversation...you'll get to around that area as you talk to more people. Going out to a social events such as dancing, karaoke, or even just going to the bar are excellent ways to push yourself out of your normal area. But that's the goal - to push yourself to be social outside of your normal routine.  Heck, if you're nervous, take a friend with you (and the upside to making new friends is that they're normally down for things like that).  The more you do it, the less of an exercise and a push it'll be because you'll start to enjoy it.  You may even make a few friends along the way, which is always nice.

That's why I like where I work, because I have to intereract with people for 8-9 hours a day, and it's helped me to basically break out of that shell and toss it away for good.  Sure, I still internalize a lot of things, and I doubt that'll ever change.  But I'm also comfortable voicing my opinions, good or bad, with people now...whereas I used to basically keep everything to myself.

But you'd do great out there.   You just have to want to break the routine and come out of your shell.  You're already pushing yourself physically, so you need to push yourself mentally as well if you want to meet people offline that are worth your time.

The real secret is not caring.  It's not about going out there, throwing your heart on the line and hoping you don't get rejected.  It's just about going out and talking to people, and getting comfortable with that part of yourself.   If someone doesn't want to talk to you, then move to someone else.  There's millions of people out there, not just that one person.  Don't pour your soul/put your heart out there until they've shown that they want to be worth your time.

To be attractive to others, you have to be attractive to yourself.  If you can't look in the mirror and like what you see, then it reflects outward.  It doesn't matter what others think and feel...it's all about how you feel.  If you feel desirable, then that's the aura that you put out and that others will pick up on.

Sure, some will pass on by and move on to someone else, but that's just how it goes.  Even those that are considered "desirable" by society's standards have their own hurdles to get through, and the vain ones aren't always lucky enough to have those "good" looks forever.  Everyone has preferences for what they look for...but that doesn't mean that you should go through any changes to suit a group of people.  Go through them for yourself, because you want to change for you.

It's not that I consider myself unattractive really...it's just now I'm starting to see results and I want it all, I guess. It'd just be a fun change to be the guy everyone wants for awhile, who everyone fantasizes about when they're alone doing naughty things, who gets pursued rather than always perusing others...it's not that it really bothers me, I just think it'd be fun to experience that. If I were to really go into it though, I think my issue has more to do with charisma than physical attractiveness...having been a shy loner most of my life, it doesn't come naturally to me. Even today, it's hard for me to strike up conversations with people I'm not close with, even online, cause I end up worrying that I'm just bothering them and that they would rather be doing something else rather than talk to me.

lol, it's not even all that important to me to be honest...just one of those things that come up when I think of what

I must say, I envy you both. I've always been so insecure about my body and looks. It's one of the reasons I developed an extroverted personality. I figure if I distract peeps with conversation and an over the top personal that people would never guess my low self esteem haha. Also it's one of the reasons I love makeup so much. Being able to alter my appearance is like a dream come true for me. Granted it doesn't help with my body at all but it's a great way to distract.

To be fair, I've only gotten comfortable with myself in the recent years.  I used to be really insecure with myself all around, and it's only been the last...3-4 years that I've worked that insecurity away to where I'm happy with myself.  Sure, it'd be nice to have that chiseled physique, but I'm alright without it as well. 

Now I just have to work on my trust issues.

See, I absolutely loathe my body. It's so weirdly proportioned in my eyes. And it doesn't seem to matter what I do I can't fix it. It's a source of frustration to me that I can't shake. If it weren't for my better half I'd probably spend most of my days stressing out about it.

Well, we are our own worst critics.  You just have to come to terms with the fact that you're never going to be 100% comfortable with the way you look...but that's a good thing.  It pushes you to always be better in one way or another.  If it doesn't, or you are 100% comfortable about every aspect of yourself...then that's another issue (aka complacency or borderline vanity).  The beauty of perfection lies within what we see as our own imperfections.  No one is truly perfect and never will be. But the beauty of things is what we may not like about ourselves, others may absolutely adore.  What we may see as imperfections, others may see as the opposite.