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Elbbsas
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  • From the look of the syllabus, we are absolutely covering everything. First class covers colonial America, last one covers the early 21st century. (Same thing happened in my Global History paper and my European History paper last year -- these classes jump decades at alarming rates). We're likely to touch on everything but not end up going highly in depth.
    But the depth is what makes history both important and interesting! If you don't know the people and the times, and thus why people made the decisions that shaped history, then all you have is a bland recounting of events. This happened, then that happened, and oh, later on something else happened too.

    The way history is taught in school is all wrong. There should be more detail, including required reading of biographies of people involved in that history...for example, biographies of at least some of the founding fathers if the topic is US History. Maybe if we taught the full context of history, people would actually get something out of it.
    (Empasis mine)
    Oi. I'm not American, don't lump my school system in with yours.
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    When we covered our country's history, it was very in depth and done splendidly, in a manner that encouraged making our own opinions, educating us on the reasons behind the current political system and issues in our country, and developing research skills! Then again, our history is relatively small. =P

    Going off of my previous papers, we are likely to have four+ specific themes and trends brought up and discussed -- and that is what everything will be framed around. (For instance in European History: Gender Relations, "Revolutions" (industrial, political, etc), Conflicts, and Ordinary People were our main ones). In addition, we have assigned reading and optional readings to help further our studies. When I said "highly" in depth, I meant we're likely not to hyper focus on specific names and dates and rather on the flow and shifts and changes.

    Additionally, biographical information isn't altogether too helpful, as historians' opinions on the whys and hows and whos of history constantly change, and they constantly disagree! For instance, in our history classes (students at 16-17 years old, with frequent debating criss crossing the classroom) we were taught about how Captain Cook (New Zealand's equivalent of Christopher Columbus) used to be seen as this amazing and brilliant figure, but as time went on the manner of his death was highlighted as an example of how he was not a great person (stoned to death while kidnapping a Hawaiian chief), and then still further it changed to how there is hardly any evidence surrounding his death so we can't really know who he was using that. Or to pick a more globally applicable topic -- "What caused the French Revolution?" is a very good way to get historians to argue. There is zero consensus on that, and even if there was one at one point, it certainly will keep on shifting.
    Erm.
    Goodness, I have Opinions on this topic. XD

    The point I'm trying to make is that there is very little point teaching a set of facts and figures -- history classes should teach how to learn and interpret history -- but not what those interpretations "should" be. Teaching specific details doesn't help; teach how to find and use databases. Especially since we have the internet nowadays; everything is hyper accessable, so people should learn how to use their resources and learn how they apply to the now.
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    Back in my plain-old, non-university history class, my history teacher had this sort of... game, I guess you could call it. After reading through some text, he would display maybe six or so different statements on the projector. We would then (in groups or on our own) write a number signifying how much we agreed or disagreed with the statement, and if we wished we could write down why we held that view. 1 was fully, totally agree. 2 was somewhat agree. 3 was somewhat disagree. 4 was fully, totally disagree. The lack of a neutral option was intentional. We would then go through each statement and see who in the class agreed/disagreed, and the next chunk of the class would be the students debating and defending their views. To me, that is what history is all about. It's a wild, blurry place, and when different people peer into its depths they should come back out with different conclusions. If everyone came to the same conclusion, history has died.

    I don't know how exactly History is presented in other countries, but a "game" like that would probably help people Learn history. And it certainly makes it more interesting. By the end of the year, we consistently had every single student chime into the discussions, and we never had universal agreement or disagreement.
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  • But the depth is what makes history both important and interesting! If you don't know the people and the times, and thus why people made the decisions that shaped history, then all you have is a bland recounting of events. This happened, then that happened, and oh, later on something else happened too.

    The way history is taught in school is all wrong. There should be more detail, including required reading of biographies of people involved in that history...for example, biographies of at least some of the founding fathers if the topic is US History. Maybe if we taught the full context of history, people would actually get something out of it.
    (Empasis mine)

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    Additionally, biographical information isn't altogether too helpful, as historians' opinions on the whys and hows and whos of history constantly change, and they constantly disagree! For instance, in our history classes (students at 16-17 years old, with frequent debating criss crossing the classroom) we were taught about how Captain Cook (New Zealand's equivalent of Christopher Columbus) used to be seen as this amazing and brilliant figure, but as time went on the manner of his death was highlighted as an example of how he was not a great person (stoned to death while kidnapping a Hawaiian chief), and then still further it changed to how there is hardly any evidence surrounding his death so we can't really know who he was using that. Or to pick a more globally applicable topic -- "What caused the French Revolution?" is a very good way to get historians to argue. There is zero consensus on that, and even if there was one at one point, it certainly will keep on shifting.
    Yep, if we look at how history has traditionally been studied, there's been a shift away from focusing on "Great Men." We now know that history is far more complex, taking into considerations such as the normal people working behind the scenes, social movements, economics, etc. Making history a study of Great Men, while it may be more interesting to some people, vastly oversimplifies the situation. Wintermoot may be right about history needing to go more in-depth, but his example (biographies of the Founding Fathers) doesn't really work for our modern understanding of history.
    I don't know how exactly History is presented in other countries, but a "game" like that would probably help people Learn history. And it certainly makes it more interesting. By the end of the year, we consistently had every single student chime into the discussions, and we never had universal agreement or disagreement.
    It's not how history is traditionally taught in the US, but there has seemed to be a movement in that direction. My US history course last year went that way, largely thanks to my teacher and in part due to the AP curriculum, and it was quite good IMO.
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  • Dammit Photobucket, disabling embedded images on third-party sites... That's literally all I've ever seen people use their website for. Are they trying to hasten their own downfall?

    To be fair, at this point it's just going to be that people will switch over to another hosting service for anything left that still uses Photobucket (though it's going to be a massive hassle).
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  • Didn't even know people still used Photobucket, except to maintain images people uploaded before imgur became a thing.

    I'm involved in Lazarus, and things are heating up there. It started when a bunch of people showed up during renomination and court judge elections and all voted the same way, which just happens to benefit the delegate and his friends, who are now trying to launch a politically motivated court case to remove someone from the region's security group, which is there to resist a coup of the region.

    And I'm reminded daily why I stopped being involved with gameplay. Whatever it was when I started in 2013, it's now a venue for executing petty agendas, vendettas, and 'power struggles', fought among a toxic community that's driven by the mentality that the only thing that matters is winning and making sure that for the other side the loss is as personal and demeaning as possible. It's certainly not a place where principle will take you far.

    This is the antithesis of what's needed to build a strong, stable community...think about it, why would people invest their time and energy into building a region if one person can just up and seize power, do away with you, and belittle your character and contributions in the process?

    But the worst thing about it is the disingenuous behind it all, like when people see what's going on and demand concrete evidence, like it's could all just be a big coincidence. I'm assuming that most people involved have brains, so I can only assume their insincerity is meant to cover for their friends or to further their own agenda.

    Whatever happens in that region, this has definitely solidified my thoughts on the future of a Wintreath gameplay military and how it would work if there was to continue to be one. I'll post something to that soon.

    And actually, the worst thing about it that I basically just described modern-day politics, and unfortunately that's not restricted to a small subset of a game. =/


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  • Didn't even know people still used Photobucket, except to maintain images people uploaded before imgur became a thing.
    That's mostly what I meant. There's tons of old stuff that now needs maintenance...
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  • Didn't know photobucket was considered to be old, seemed like the go-to website for uploading images.
    But if they're going to do that and break my self-reflective avatar, I'm going to try uploading it onto this imgur site I've never heard of before and see how long that works.
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  • Didn't know photobucket was considered to be old, seemed like the go-to website for uploading images.
    But if they're going to do that and break my self-reflective avatar, I'm going to try uploading it onto this imgur site I've never heard of before and see how long that works.
    Photobucket was super popular across the internet in the 2000s, but Imgur's popularity spread in the 2010s, from reddit (where it began in 2009 as a simpler image host) to elsewhere, largely because it was considered easier to use and deal with. Now that I think of it, it kinda makes sense that Photobucket still remains somewhat popular in NS, where "older" technologies such as forums and IRC are still widely used.
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  • Didn't even know people still used Photobucket, except to maintain images people uploaded before imgur became a thing.

    I'm involved in Lazarus, and things are heating up there. It started when a bunch of people showed up during renomination and court judge elections and all voted the same way, which just happens to benefit the delegate and his friends, who are now trying to launch a politically motivated court case to remove someone from the region's security group, which is there to resist a coup of the region.

    And I'm reminded daily why I stopped being involved with gameplay. Whatever it was when I started in 2013, it's now a venue for executing petty agendas, vendettas, and 'power struggles', fought among a toxic community that's driven by the mentality that the only thing that matters is winning and making sure that for the other side the loss is as personal and demeaning as possible. It's certainly not a place where principle will take you far.

    This is the antithesis of what's needed to build a strong, stable community...think about it, why would people invest their time and energy into building a region if one person can just up and seize power, do away with you, and belittle your character and contributions in the process?

    But the worst thing about it is the disingenuous behind it all, like when people see what's going on and demand concrete evidence, like it's could all just be a big coincidence. I'm assuming that most people involved have brains, so I can only assume their insincerity is meant to cover for their friends or to further their own agenda.

    Whatever happens in that region, this has definitely solidified my thoughts on the future of a Wintreath gameplay military and how it would work if there was to continue to be one. I'll post something to that soon.

    And actually, the worst thing about it that I basically just described modern-day politics, and unfortunately that's not restricted to a small subset of a game. =/
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    - I got a cool new phone! It's an S8+
    - I came out to more people about my sexuality :o and they were really nice about it ^o^


    ........I suddenly feel like I need a walker.
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    I think I actually spend more time worrying that other people think of me differently when they learn I'm 31, especially younger people who think that's really old. I'd like to think I'm a bit wiser, but physically I feel more youthful and vigorous than I did when I was 21. I got off like four times yesterday, so there's the proof. :P


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