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Repeal of the Anti-NPO/NLO Act
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BraveSirRobin
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  • So shall we sort of meet in the middle and do a partial repeal of it? Make it so that as long as the person requesting citizenship is not primarily part of the NPO, we accept them? Is that something that we could do?
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    Chanku
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  • How would primarily be defined? Further that would require a bit more checking to make sure someone isn't lying about not being 'primarily' apart of it.

    I personally believe that we should not allow anyone that has citizenship in the NPO (and the now defunct NLO) under any circumstances.
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  • I personally support the repeal. The crisis is over with Lazarus.
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    Laurentus
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  • Let's just repeal the Act in its entirety.

    We write a simple little bill to do just that, and remove it from the laws.
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  • I disagree, just because the crisis is over doesn't mean we should let the NPO off the hook.
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  • Having this act doesn't keep them on the hook. The act itself doesn't do anything. If we want to keep them on the hook, then we'll explore other options.
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  • I've written an act.

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    1. This act shall be titled as the Repeal of The Anti-NPO/NLO Act

    Repeal
    2. The Anti-NPO/NLO Act shall be struck null and void, and section 2.1 of the Citizenship and Demonym act shall be amended to read as follows:
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    Citizens are required to keep the nation which they gained membership with within the region unless they inform the person (or government agency) empowered to accept or reject citizenship applications by section 2.4 of this act.

    This effectively returns the Citizenship and Demonym act to the way it was before the Anti-NPO/NLO act was passed.

    I already know Chanku doesn't approve. What do the rest of you think?
    « Last Edit: November 30, 2015, 12:33:26 AM by Laurentus »
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    BraveSirRobin
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  • I think that it looks good.  Want it proposed in the Underhusen?  @Chanku no legal loopholes or flaws? 
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    Laurentus
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  • Yeah, I'd appreciate you bringing it to the UH, thanks. :)
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  • Yeah, I'd appreciate you bringing it to the UH, thanks. :)

    Done it :)
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    Résumé/A History of Robin on NationStates
    Wintreath:
    Citizen: 4 June 2015 - present
    Member of the Hvitt Riddaral: 21 August 2015 - present
    Strifa of the 12th Underhusen: 8 October 2015 - 13 December 2015
    Speaker Pro Tem of the 13th Underhusen: 13 December 2015 - 8 February 2016
    Speaker Pro Tem of the 14th Underhusen: 8 February 2016 - 8 April 2016
    Speaker of the 16th Underhusen: 10 June 2016 - 11 August 2016
    Ambassador to Europeia: 5 December 2016 - present
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    Ambassador to The North Pacific: 11 March 2017 - present
    Speaker of the 21st Underhusen: 10 April 2017 - 10 June 2017
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    Strifa of the 23rd Underhusen: 10 August 2017 - 10 November 2017
    Thane of Ambassadors: 10 October 2018 - 10 December 2018
    Commendation of Wintreath: Sept 24 2020

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    Citizen: 27 November 2015 - present
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    Lord of Development: 5 February 2016 - present


    (I stole this format from tau, but who am I not to copy a great system? :-) )

    Ne Crustumini quidem atque Antemnates pro ardore iraque Caeninensium satis se impigre movent; ita per se ipsum nomen Caeninum in agrum Romanum impetum facit. Sed effuse vastantibus fit obvius cum exercitu Romulus levique certamine docet vanam sine viribus iram esse.
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  • Maybe I'm a bit biased on the subject, having held a cabinet-level position in the PRL during the coup, but has it not been the nature of the NPO to do this kind of thing? Whether or not Pierconium was sincere in his (in my opinion) very political "apology" of all the wrongs their government has done over the years, it will be a cold day in hell when I actually trust that the NPO doesn't have any hostile action planned against literally anyone they have diplomatic relations with (something I hope Wintreath never has) and I'd rather this legislation be enforced until the end of time. So obviously I am against repealing it.
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  • Since it is the UH's job to get this done, I guess I'll mention them all here...

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    Here is some context.

    http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=2220.0

    Here is some more context, for those as context obsessed as I am.

    http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=2294.0

    Also @Laurentus, some more RELEVANT context:
    http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=2985.0 :P
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