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Hello Wintreath!
Most of you do not know me because I'm new to the region but I've decided to run for the Underhusen because this region has stagnated. The wonderful citizens of Wintreath deserve a great active member who will listen to the people. I will always be open to suggestions from the citizens and will support major reforms. I think the justice system needs reformation namely that there should be an appeals process. This is a time for change and I believe I can do that for you because I haven't been immersed in bureaucracy and wouldn't be a backbencher. I'm here to fight for you and that is the mist important thing. Be free to ask me anything.
Thanks,
Mfailor

Do you by chance mean you'd like to change the appeals process?

Because we really already have one.

http://wintreath.com/index.php?part=law&act=detail&id=6

Other than that, welcome to the campaign, unofficially. Wintermoot hasn't yet added you to the list, as of this writing.

Awkward (I feel like Jeb Bush).I think there needs to be a better process for choosing judges because the judicial branch and the monarchy should be separate. There should be designated judges whose confirmation process should be like the one used for Supreme Court justices in the U. S. The current system puts too much power in the hands of the monarch and even gives the court the option to not rule on the case just send it to the monarch. We need to hold our judges responsible and close this loophole!

We live in a monarchy though and functionally we will always be at the mercy of Wintermoot. Why then, do you want to remove these powers from the Monarch?

Well we live in a wonderful monarchy there are some things we cannot trust to one man alone. Currently, to the best of my understanding, the monarch could judge unfairly on a case. While this will not happen under our current monarch, we have to be ready. We need to keep the judicial system separate or they will become hopelessly intertwined and inevitably corrupt. If the judges are left to the overhusen then they will be more vetted candidates with deep understanding of the region and it's laws. I fully support the monarchy but we can't let it affect the cases of the average civilian.

Again, functionally Wintermoot can do just about anything he wants. He could even go on a rampage and banject every single one of us and destroy the forum, without us poor helpless souls being able to do anything.

Such is the nature of any User Created Region (or UCR for short). Wintermoot is being positively generous by allowing us so much freedom.

"You have given up your liberty for safety, and thus deserve neither."

And then there's the matter of Wintermoot appointing the Overhusen too, anyway.

I trust the monarch with my life. I think by using an intermediary (overhusen) we can make it so the appointed judges are the best they can be. Wintermoot is a fantastic monarch but even the greatest make mistakes. It should be our job as citizens to try to fix the rare occasions where something goes wrong. There needs to be a court structure that works for everyone from the great Wintermoot to the newest and lowest citizen.

I realise you've commented on this already, but what do you think about this proposal?

http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=2328.0

I admire that you've decided to run for Underhusen as a new Citizen. I still remember when I ran in my first legislative campaign, part of my platform was that legislatures are a great place for people to get involved in government.

However, with all due respect, your replies show your lack of experience with interacting with the region and community. Placing more authority with the monarchy was by design, so that the region could be led with a unity of direction and a lack of bickering and politics that befalls other regions...and it has worked, more or less. Although there are times when people don't agree, like with the many ideas and opinions brought forth on improving the judiciary, they've never led to permanent political factions or community divisions. I believe our style of government has a lot to do with that.

When it comes to the judiciary, it's important that justice be carried out based on the merits of each case...it would not be fair for our judicial system to become politicized or to become the victim of popularity contests through elections. It would not be fair to allow for people sitting on a court to accumulate power or make arbitrary decisions without being answerable to anyone. And you may say that's what a Monarchy is, but I would disagree...for all the power and all the authority a monarch has, at least here, if I or a future monarch were to abuse that power, to not be reasonably responsive to the people, or to not put dedication into this region, people would vote with their feet and ultimately leave the region. Unlike real-life nations, there are no border controls or Iron Curtains to keep people in if they don't want to be here. In a way, the monarchy is the most accountable portion of government, because it is responsible for the success or failure of the region as a whole.

I agree that the current judicial system is not perfect...there are loopholes we did not anticipate and issues we did not consider, but please consider the benefits of the monarchical system before so casually criticizing a system that has worked so well.

I would correct did not consider to could not consider... The judicial system, as written by Weissreich is very functional... It's every word and law that happens to surround it and all the things that came after its creation that kinda shanked it in the midnight alley...

Lack of experience with a Monarchical system is no reason to write off a candidate.  The exact relationship between the Monarch and his cabinet and the rest of the government fluctuates. Slowly, but it fluctuates.

Indeed, really going through the effort to debate here while so new to the region has already scored this candidate highly in my book.

That's a fantastic idea. I like the three judge idea but think that there should be a rotating selection of judges where the monarch review each case has the power to replace one of the judges.
P.S. Comment all you want!

I'm open to ideas of all sorts and think that the monarch needs to be watching over the justice system to make sure the chosen judges make no mistakes. This is a great example of how a monarchy works: the monarch reviewing the judges in each case while the judges are chosen by the monarch-appointed overhusen. If this become a popularity contest, then we need a new overhusen because they should be able to be counted on to review a judge based on merit alone, not popularity.

What do you think can be improved with our laws, if anything?