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[GUIDE]: How to use the damn Court System.
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Michi
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  • Again it's due to the natures of the bills. I'll explain this again:
    Also it was two aye votes...

    1) The first one was a Amendment to the Fundamental Laws, which requires a supermajority vote of 2/3rds, so 4 people with aye votes TOTAL.

    2) The Second one is a general law(and amendment to a general law) so it only requires a simple majority vote of 2/3rds so 3 people with aye votes Total (also note that technically this isn't needed. There is no defined number needed)

    So lets go over the votes:

    FL Amendment
    Aye: 3
    Nay: 1
    Abstain: 1

    Remember AYE MUST BE 4 PEOPLE. 3 != 4 so therefore it fails. No matter what...

    General Amendment
    Aye: 2
    Nay: 2
    Abstain: 1

    It was a tie.

    When you remove the abstain votes completely you get:

    FL Amendment
    Aye: 3
    Nay: 1

    General Amendment
    Aye: 2
    Nay: 2

    However, it must be noted that FL amendments require 4 ayes to pass, due to the FL itself requiring that. Therefore the FL Amendment Passes with 1 vote missing as an Aye.

    In the General Amendment it is a tie. Therefore UH procedure dictates it move to the OH.

    I wasn't trying to go into semantics.  I was just pointing out that it was an amusing term, and that it pretty much made his "We're nothing like the US congress" statement invalid.  :P

    Also: The problem with the latter was that while it was a tie, the last vote came AFTER the deadline, and it was clear before that vote came in that it was a 1 Aye and 2 Nays.  So in that instance the vote should have failed.  But since you decided to include a late vote in the total and then used the Abstain as a tie breaking AYE, it was considered illegal to the OH, which is why we tossed it out.
    « Last Edit: May 02, 2015, 01:35:41 AM by Pengu »
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