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Emoticonius
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  • Well there's been talk of judicial reform, and there is one thing I'd like to change about it, because I feel there may be room for bias. Currently, under the proper circumstances, Skrifa can hold multiple judicial positions. I think that should only be allowed if the required number of 3 judges cannot be met. So I would like to pursue that. I know regions don't use the judiciary very often, normally, but I'd like to fix that anyways, just in case we need it.
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  • What areas do you want to see improved?

    Why should I, with my stances, vote for YOU?  What can YOU do for ME?

    And, as some personal matters I need to you to address.  These are direct questions that require direct responses by only YOU and no one else.

    So far, you've been disrespectful to me in a very passive way.  Furthermore, you disgraced yourself and dishonoured yourself by going against the notion of "innocent until proven guilty" by allowing yourself to let others decide for you if I"m guilty or not in Spiritus with how people repeatedly defamed me and attacked me when you decided to defend me.  How can you be expected to be elected when you abandon commitments like that in a cowardly fashion by A. allowing the public to judge for you, B. defending someone unless they're proven guilty, and C. letting hearsay decide for yourself instead of asking me any questions for the case? 

    Yes, my concern is how you said you were willing to defend me, then caved in response to people with their own questionable reputations, attacking me.  I'm sorry, but you're severely lacking in credibility, and you have a long way to convince me otherwise.
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  • I want to settle this business about judicial reform and I want to see the will of the citizens as the guiding principle of how the government operates.

    Well if elected I will represent the people in all of my actions in The Underhusen. I'll work towards giving more power to the citizens. If the monarch wanted more responsibilities, The Monarch would have delegated more to itself in the beginning. Thus we should not shoulder more responsibility on Wintermoot. Moot does so much already.

    Gov...that's pretty devious of you, using that to pester me again after all this time. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I do believe you're innocent in Spiritus. You violated no law there. HOWEVER, I've seen your long pattern of ill-advised behavior and it was then that I knew you were a severe flight risk. I stuck my neck out for you and you hid that from me. I'd heard a lot about you but I disregarded. It was the logs, SO MANY LOGS, that showed me what you hid. I knew you would have got yourself re-banned if by some miracle we'd won the case. My reputation would have been shattered and you would not have felt the least bit remorseful, because you can be so stubborn and hot-headed. I trusted you to tell me everything I needed to know, but clearly you could not do such a courtesy. I'm glad that you've found a home here in Wintreath. The fact that they welcomed you here as one of their own is truly a good deed. But there is too much bad blood between you and Spiritus. You know this to be true. Now please, stop asking me. I blocked you on IRC to avoid a misunderstanding between us, but it seems that is what it must come to.
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  • I want to settle this business about judicial reform and I want to see the will of the citizens as the guiding principle of how the government operates.

    Well if elected I will represent the people in all of my actions in The Underhusen. I'll work towards giving more power to the citizens. If the monarch wanted more responsibilities, The Monarch would have delegated more to itself in the beginning. Thus we should not shoulder more responsibility on Wintermoot. Moot does so much already.

    Gov...that's pretty devious of you, using that to pester me again after all this time. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I do believe you're innocent in Spiritus. You violated no law there. HOWEVER, I've seen your long pattern of ill-advised behavior and it was then that I knew you were a severe flight risk. I stuck my neck out for you and you hid that from me. I'd heard a lot about you but I disregarded. It was the logs, SO MANY LOGS, that showed me what you hid. I knew you would have got yourself re-banned if by some miracle we'd won the case. My reputation would have been shattered and you would not have felt the least bit remorseful, because you can be so stubborn and hot-headed. I trusted you to tell me everything I needed to know, but clearly you could not do such a courtesy. I'm glad that you've found a home here in Wintreath. The fact that they welcomed you here as one of their own is truly a good deed. But there is too much bad blood between you and Spiritus. You know this to be true. Now please, stop asking me. I blocked you on IRC to avoid a misunderstanding between us, but it seems that is what it must come to.

    It's not pestering, it's calling you out on how you disgraced yourself.

    If you're believing I was innocent in Spiritus, you should have defended me until the case was over.  Also, severe flight risk?  Lol I have my US passport and I have no criminal record IRL.  Try again.

    I told you everything you needed to know relevant to the case.  Anything else you needed to know, you could have opened up your damn mouth and asked, but YOU didn't, so that's all on you, not me. 

    I asked you because you were too cowardly to tell me directly, like a mature adult, and you listened to hearsay and defamation.  If you truly did care and believe my innocence, you would have stayed on as my defence attorney until the case was over.  This isn't about protecting your "reputation", it's about doing what's right, and you're being the selfish one here instead of honouring your commitments.

    You blocked me not because of an "misunderstanding".  Misunderstandings don't result in blocking others, you blocked me because you refuse to admit you were wrong in this matter. 

    So far your response shows you have zero credibility right now, and you've dishonoured yourself and disrespected me.  Thank you for confirming you're not worth voting for.
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  • You're free to let your personal beef with me impair your judgement, but you shouldn't twist the facts to make yourself out to be the victim. What I saw was not hearsay or defamation. It was a fact. Concrete proof of why you've become a pariah in NS. I did the right thing by declining, but only because I knew you'd get yourself into trouble. You'd have immediately took to bothering Salaxalans and Tim. Then it would have been my head on the chopping block too.
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  • Actually, I have a non-related tangent question.

    Why would it have been 'your head on the chopping block too'?
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  • Actually, I have a non-related tangent question.

    Why would it have been 'your head on the chopping block too'?

    I know how strongly they feel about keeping him out of Spiritus. Unleashing Gov on the villagers is tantamount to treason. I would have been crucified. Not that we could have won the case. Tim said it publicly that the trial was a formality.
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  • This is quite the show, jesus. Drama is cool, y'all.
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  • Ugh, imagine how I feel...
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  • I hate drama. Flaring tempers and uncontrolled emotions never lead to a good outcome, neither do flaming wars and attacking people publicly. Just discuss this through PM with each other, and do so rationally.
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  • I specifically told him not to bring it up with me, months ago....
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  • You're free to let your personal beef with me impair your judgement, but you shouldn't twist the facts to make yourself out to be the victim. What I saw was not hearsay or defamation. It was a fact. Concrete proof of why you've become a pariah in NS. I did the right thing by declining, but only because I knew you'd get yourself into trouble. You'd have immediately took to bothering Salaxalans and Tim. Then it would have been my head on the chopping block too.

    I didn't twist the facts, and yes, what you saw was hearsay.  You didn't corroborate it, you just heard information from other people, irrelevant to the case.  Instead of sticking with your claim that you believe I'm innocent, you submitted to the mob view, and that makes you just as prejudiced and bigoted as they are and your claims of believing my innocence to be a flat out lie.  In this case I actually am the victim because you were in the wrong and made no attempt to ask me any questions about what they said, so why don't you stop twisting the facts and admitting you screwed up, like a mature adult?

    Actually, I have a non-related tangent question.

    Why would it have been 'your head on the chopping block too'?

    I know how strongly they feel about keeping him out of Spiritus. Unleashing Gov on the villagers is tantamount to treason. I would have been crucified. Not that we could have won the case. Tim said it publicly that the trial was a formality.

    If he had any credibility Tim would have respected the rule of law if he lost his case.  COS's words imply I'm a criminal, and a plague, instead of an actual human being, once again another sign of disrespect and his condoning of the behaviour of Tim and Salaxalans.  If they would have crucified you for defending someone they disliked, they have no right to claim they support freedom and democracy.  Also, you really need to look up "Treason". 

    I specifically told him not to bring it up with me, months ago....

    You didn't tell me not to bring it up, you blocked me like a coward and refused to address the manner like a man until I called you out on your cowardly tactics.

    I hate drama. Flaring tempers and uncontrolled emotions never lead to a good outcome, neither do flaming wars and attacking people publicly. Just discuss this through PM with each other, and do so rationally.

    I'm sorry, but given how people bring up my reputation from other places in other regions, I have every right to bring up COS's behaviour from other places in terms of how he would not be a credible legislator since he cannot honour his commitments, Laurentus.
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  • I'm not going to argue with you Gov. The matter was settled a long time ago. Have a pleasant day.
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  • I'm not going to argue with you Gov. The matter was settled a long time ago. Have a pleasant day.

    The matter wasn't settled, you just refused to take responsibility and honour your commitments in the name of justice, but good to see that you pointed out you're not credible.
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  • I'm sorry Gov but you leave me no choice. I had hoped I would not have to resort to this....
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