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  • Ok, I've finally updated it.
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  • I find it interesting that you made the "2 dead wins" a separate category, when previous exceptional point rewards (such as the draw in a earlier game of Werewolf) didn't get marked as such.

    Also, didn't mention this because it didn't come up, but presumably I would think that 1 dead win and 1 living win would be 4 points.
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  • Just didn't make sense to me to lump the DE 2 dead wins with a living win since they're not really the same. The way I saw it was that draws aren't really exceptional because they're counted as participations since they participated but didn't win.  I can create a separate draw category worth 1 point if that would be wanted, though. And yeah, 4 points for that sounds good.

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  • Just didn't make sense to me to lump the DE 2 dead wins with a living win since they're not really the same. The way I saw it was that draws aren't really exceptional because they're counted as participations since they participated but didn't win.  I can create a separate draw category worth 1 point if that would be wanted, though. And yeah, 4 points for that sounds good.
    Draws were agreed-upon to count 2 or 3 points, more than just participation...
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  • Ah, I missed that. I'll change it when I get back to my PC.
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  • Draws were agreed-upon to count 2 or 3 points, more than just participation...
    Wait, you'll have to spell out to me who gets how many points because the wording is pretty vague in that thread. Would Hydra get 3, and you, Bootsie, and Barnes get 2, and everyone else gets 1 since that was when the draw was agreed upon? Or would you and Hydra get 3 since you were the only survivors, while everyone else gets 2 since everyone else died but "won". Or something else?

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  • Draws were agreed-upon to count 2 or 3 points, more than just participation...
    Wait, you'll have to spell out to me who gets how many points because the wording is pretty vague in that thread. Would Hydra get 3, and you, Bootsie, and Barnes get 2, and everyone else gets 1 since that was when the draw was agreed upon? Or would you and Hydra get 3 since you were the only survivors, while everyone else gets 2 since everyone else died but "won". Or something else?
    Huh I'm confused now too.

    @Pengu @Laurentus thoughts?
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  • So I was looking back through previous games to research for the current game, and I noticed I needed to update the list in the OP. As I was updating my Excel sheet, I realized the draw dilemma above was never settled. Since Werewolf XVII: Santa's Apprentice also ended in a draw similar to WWVI: Until Dawn, I was wondering how we'd like to award points in the case of draws.

    In both cases, one side (the wolves) was viewed as the "winners" in the draw, so it was suggested that that side would get more points.
    Here's one possible solution (which could probably go in a spoiler as "Draws" underneath the current stuff since it's quite a bit).
    Draw Living Win: 3 points (WWVI: Hydra, WWXVII: taulover and Fortis Scriptor)
    Draw Dead Win: 2 points (WWVI: taulover, WWXVII: Sapphiron)
    Draw Living Loss: 2 points (dead wolves in both above)
    Draw Dead Loss: 1 point (dead townies in both above)
    Draw Participation: 1 point (everyone in WWIX: The SS Wintreath Sets Sail and WWX1: The Murder of Mr. Winter since they both ended as actual neutral draws)
    I'd also probably change the current "Participation" to just "Loss" to help differentiate.

    Thoughts?
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