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NYT: An Extremely Detailed Map of the 2020 Election
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  • Link: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/upshot/2020-election-map.html

    This is a detailed map of the 2020 US Presidential Election, showing data from most counties in 47 states and shading them based not only on who won, but by margin. There's also an option to see the change from 2016, which is shaded by party/margin vs 2016.

    Unsurprisingly, the map is a sea of red punctuated by sparks of blue throughout the country, showing that the main divide in America today is urban vs rural, with the suburbs deciding things one way or another. When you switch to the change from 2016 view, you can see that for the most part blue areas got bluer and red areas got redder...it's not that many rural areas flipped from Republican to Democrat, it's that areas that were already Democratic became much more so. Also of note is southern Florida and the southern border of Texas, which massively trended Republican vs 2016. This is what sparked all the stories about how Hispanic-Americans in those areas decided to vote for a party that's seen by some as anti-immigrant and supportive (or at least tolerant) of white supremacism.

    What are your thoughts about the final outcome? Is anything surprising for you? Let's autopsy the results here. :P


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  • This is what sparked all the stories about how Hispanic-Americans in those areas decided to vote for a party that's seen by some as anti-immigrant and supportive (or at least tolerant) of white supremacism.
    The fundamental error is in the liberal racist method (as opposed to the conservative racist method, which is 'hmm...skin tone') of assuming that under Identity Politics, all Hispanics are identical.
    That's a bit like deciding that all African-Americans are identical, which is of course a perfectly accurate assumption, and why Kanye West did what he did this election. /s

    Many Cubans in this country do not see themselves as 'Hispanic' - they see themselves as white. This is because for a heck of a lot of them, they're ethnic Spaniards who fled Cuba because Castro et al were expropriating their shit. Their class interests do not align with the class interests of many of the Puerto Rican or second/third-generation descendants of Central and Southern American migrants (or, hell, undocumented migrants at all) to this country, because the class interests of a bunch of comparatively wealthy people don't align with those of a bunch of poor people. They may happily take advantage of those people by falsely pretending to identify with them - as, for example, the wealthy and WASP-dominated Fox News happily exploits racial sensitivities among, say, Scots-Irish Americans in Appalachia in order to further the class war their oligarch paymasters have a vested interest in continuing.
    Worse luck is all the culture-war bullshit is costing the left hard among religious communities. We need to stop fighting that war and start fighting the class war. Once that's won, the oligarchs won't control the entirety of the news media, advertising, any of the other industries whose sole purpose is 'amplify the voices of the already wealthy, powerful, and well-connected, who have a vested interest in keeping their numbers as small and uninclusive as possible', and then we can go back to fighting the culture war a lot more effectively.
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  • I don't disagree with your analysis, but I also wonder to what extent any of them want a class war. One of the tactics the Trump campaign and Republicans used to great effect was to convince immigrants and descendants of immigrants from Latin American socialist/communist countries that Biden and the Democrats want to bring about exactly what they fled from. One of the specific criticisms of Biden's campaign that I read was that they didn't respond to this early or hard enough.
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  • It doesn't matter if they want to fight one or not. The inequality statistics in this country clearly demonstrate not only that we've been in a class war for 40 years, but we're also losing.
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  • Be that as it may, it's not going to be a successful fight if entire portions of the country are being made to fear your side. How are you going to convince them to fight in a class war if they believe that doing so on your side will lead to more oppression and corruption than there is now? Oppression so bad that their families fled it in other countries?


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