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Anti-Spying and Election-Fraud Act Disscusion
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Toms
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    Preface
    In order to protect our region from our enemies and to allow Wintreath to prosper, spying and election fraud must be outlawed.

    1. Title
    a. This document shall be cited as the Anti-Spying and Election Fraud Act.

    2. Definitions
    a. Spying is defined as: gathering information on Wintreath, or its officials, for malicious uses or with malicious intent. (Also known as reconnaissance.)

    b. Malicious intent is defined as: the objective of performing any action that could lead to the harming or destruction of the region as a whole.

    c. A spy is defined as: an agent employed by a region or organization to obtain secret information, used for military, political, regional, organizational, or personal gain.

    d. Gain shall be defined as either a positive or negative outcome for the parties information is provided from/the member who divulges the information . This means that if any region/organization/person(s) is damaged by this information, or the intent is to make another region/organization/person(s) look better by making another region/organization/person(s) look worse . Whether through logs or screenshots, or any possible way information can be taken from a IRC, telegram, or private communication from members.
       i. Section 2, Subsection d, sentence 1 means if it either makes a region/org/person(s) worse, or makes  your  region/org/person(s) look better by making another org look bad, it cannot be released as information.

    e. This will NOT cover things such as telegramming/messaging members over things such as bills, WA resolution’s, evidence in a crime for use in a trial, or operations in R/D, so long as operations from Wintreath are not revealed to members not in the Hvitt Riddaral, or been given specific clearance to see such information.

    f. Election fraud is defined as a misrepresentation or alteration of the true results of an election or the illegal interference with the process of an election. Acts of fraud affect vote counts to bring about an election result, whether by increasing the vote share of the favored candidate through improper vote counting, depressing the vote share of the rival candidates or both. Also called voter fraud, the mechanisms involved include illegal voter registration and improper vote counting.

    3. Punishment
    a. Should a person be found committing these acts, under a fair and just trial, then they shall be subject to being banned from Wintreath and shall have their citizenship revoked.

    I still don't like 2d for a few reason; first of all the first sentence doesn't make sense grammatically. :P Rather than putting another section to define that sentence, just fix or get rid of it! Second, lets say information was discovered that the delegate (not Reon, some hypothetical other) was planning to coup the region. I would want to see this information so it could be stopped, but this act would make revealing that information illegal.
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    Chanku
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  • Section 2- Subsection E, there is a section which reads, " evidence in a crime for use in a trial," I'd assume your question would fall under that.
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  • Not really, first of all Couping isn't illegal yet, second it would be hard to start a trial without being able to show any evidence.
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    Chanku
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  • Hm Alright. I'll update it.
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    Ceardia
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  • I recommend that the bill be simplified. It's just way too complicated.

    Do we really need to define what/who a spy is after defining what spying is legally recognized as?
    Do we really have to exempt things like TGing people about everyday things?
    What gain will defining gain bring after stating what malicious intent legally means?
    Do we need to state that spying is also know as reconnaissance?
    Why is there a preface? The reason for the bill is clearly stated in general in the title and stated specifically in the actual content of it.
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    Dawsinian
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  • Thank you Ceardia! No Prefaces!
    * Denth Rowan awkwardly hugs Ceardia
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  • But I like Prefaces.
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  • >_>
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