Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 18, 2024, 10:23:18 PM
Welcome everyone from Wintreath to my werewolf game. It's been a bit since werewolf 31, but hopefully this fills so it can start this month. Since it seems this forum is more used to Werewolf as opposed to Mafia, I tried to make it werewolf-themed!
The Setup
1 Seer
1 Hunter
7 Villagers
1 Aura Werewolf
2 Werewolves
12 players, 9v3
* If 12 players are not found, I can try to make it balanced for less players too, but the goal is 12.
What does every role do?
Seer -> Each night, they investigate a player, and find out their role.
Hunter -> Each night, they hunt a player. If the Hunter is murdered by the werewolves that night, they will take the submitted player down with them.
Villager -> The basic villager role, they have no special power, but can vote each day. Personal opinion; Villager is the most fun role.
Aura Werewolf -> Just like any werewolf, but they also have Seer powers that allows them to find out the role of one of the villagers of their choice each night.
Werewolf -> Each night, the werewolves can eliminate one villager.
The village wins by: Eliminating all three werewolves.
The werewolves win by: Ensuring that there are just as much (or more) werewolves alive at any moment than members of the village.
Each day, you may post at most 100 times, and you have to post at least 10 times.
The werewolves will have a Discord chat where they can talk with each other during days and nights, for as long as they are alive. As such, ensure you have a Discord account or you can not play.
Private conversations between players are not allowed, except for the werewolves in their Discord chat.
Days: 48 hours
Nights: 24 hours
Voting Specifications
Majority is enabled starting Day 2.
No-elimination is always enabled, but not encouraged. The numbers are set as such that it's optimal to always vote someone out, assuming that the Hunter is able to take someone down with them.
If majority is not reached, then at the end of the day, the person with the most votes is eliminated. If it's a tie for most votes, then the tie is broken randomly.
6. Oricorio
7. RondoDimBuckle
9. ExLight
11. GoldenOne (formerly Master Radishes)
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 18, 2024, 10:24:45 PM
I have no idea how the lock the thread so pls don't talk in it!
1. @Princess Abigail
2. @Wintermoot
3. @Sugar Moon
4. @Projekt Red
5. @Rem
6. @Oricorio
7. @RondoDimBuckle
8. @Grace
9. @ExLight
10. @Bellepi
11. @Master Radishes
12. @Loona
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 18, 2024, 10:33:40 PM
The game will start in 27 minutes.
Good luck and have fun!
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 18, 2024, 10:38:44 PM
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 18, 2024, 11:00:23 PM
Post by: Projekt Red on January 18, 2024, 11:00:52 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 18, 2024, 11:03:13 PM
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 18, 2024, 11:03:32 PM
Post by: Projekt Red on January 18, 2024, 11:04:34 PM
Sugar an alignment!
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 18, 2024, 11:05:32 PM
TMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:05:45 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:06:43 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:08:24 PM
Projekt Red: Sounds planned
Princess Abigail: Lame
Sugar Moon: A bit more open than the others, still no follow-through
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 18, 2024, 11:08:36 PM
Why is the multiquote feature here such a pain in the ass to useThere was a way to show text only instead of the fancy formatting that made it way easier but I don't remember how to do it
Post by: Projekt Red on January 18, 2024, 11:08:54 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:09:46 PM
TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategy
Post by: Projekt Red on January 18, 2024, 11:10:35 PM
Are you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategy
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:11:18 PM
No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategy
Post by: Projekt Red on January 18, 2024, 11:12:28 PM
Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategy
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 18, 2024, 11:12:40 PM
How do I use the vote function?Press the button that looks like a black checkmark, pick a name
Wait I was going to add a vote but there was no dropdown we're being scammed
Post by: Projekt Red on January 18, 2024, 11:13:41 PM
Which name?How do I use the vote function?Press the button that looks like a black checkmark, pick a name
Wait I was going to add a vote but there was no dropdown we're being scammed
Why am I using so many posts up?
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:14:12 PM
Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategy
This interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 18, 2024, 11:14:25 PM
Brief views on openers so far:Yes I'm very disappointed that nobody asked about my S-tier beverage instead of jumping into solving
Projekt Red: Sounds planned
Princess Abigail: Lame
Sugar Moon: A bit more open than the others, still no follow-through
I love rvs
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 18, 2024, 11:15:36 PM
Well yours obviously bc I was replying to your post about how the voting works :DWhich name?How do I use the vote function?Press the button that looks like a black checkmark, pick a name
Wait I was going to add a vote but there was no dropdown we're being scammed
Why am I using so many posts up?
Post by: Projekt Red on January 18, 2024, 11:16:12 PM
Yucky from them?Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
How are we aligned?
FMPOV I see this as not an aligned post but is there something I'm missing or are you making stuff up? </3
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 18, 2024, 11:20:12 PM
Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
You're being way too serious for right at SoD, relax
Red was joking
I was joking back
there's nothing AI there
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:20:41 PM
It's an easy interaction to plan in wolfchatYucky from them?Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
How are we aligned?
FMPOV I see this as not an aligned post but is there something I'm missing or are you making stuff up? </3
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 18, 2024, 11:23:13 PM
Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
You're being way too serious for right at SoD, relax
Red was joking
I was joking back
there's nothing AI there
Well actually your eagerness to read into it might be towny
Are you a very new player Oricorio?
Post by: Projekt Red on January 18, 2024, 11:24:29 PM
Do you think this would be an interaction planned in wolfchat? Do you think SoD1 interactions will get planned in wolfchat? Why did you townread the wolf I just gotchaed then pair them to me immediately after?It's an easy interaction to plan in wolfchatYucky from them?Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
How are we aligned?
FMPOV I see this as not an aligned post but is there something I'm missing or are you making stuff up? </3
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:26:12 PM
Everything is AI, as whenever you make a post in mafia you will inevitably be subconsciously aware of your own alignment which will be reflected in your posts. It's never to early to start solving.Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
You're being way too serious for right at SoD, relax
Red was joking
I was joking back
there's nothing AI there
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:27:29 PM
Very old player, my nine-year anniversary of playing mafia is coming up relatively soonWhy?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
You're being way too serious for right at SoD, relax
Red was joking
I was joking back
there's nothing AI there
Well actually your eagerness to read into it might be towny
Are you a very new player Oricorio?
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:28:41 PM
Interactions are often planned in wolfchat, usually for distancing purposes or to look towny. And when did I post a townread of anybody?Do you think this would be an interaction planned in wolfchat? Do you think SoD1 interactions will get planned in wolfchat? Why did you townread the wolf I just gotchaed then pair them to me immediately after?It's an easy interaction to plan in wolfchatYucky from them?Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
How are we aligned?
FMPOV I see this as not an aligned post but is there something I'm missing or are you making stuff up? </3
Post by: Projekt Red on January 18, 2024, 11:33:04 PM
I Can't relate to a SoD1 interaction being planned ever. I Can't relate to such a small interaction being planned at all. Your third post called Sugar open and put them in a positive light but you immediately called them aligned with me afterwards.Interactions are often planned in wolfchat, usually for distancing purposes or to look towny. And when did I post a townread of anybody?Do you think this would be an interaction planned in wolfchat? Do you think SoD1 interactions will get planned in wolfchat? Why did you townread the wolf I just gotchaed then pair them to me immediately after?It's an easy interaction to plan in wolfchatYucky from them?Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
How are we aligned?
FMPOV I see this as not an aligned post but is there something I'm missing or are you making stuff up? </3
So let me understand your PoV: Why do we plan this interaction?
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 18, 2024, 11:34:26 PM
Interactions are often planned in wolfchat, usually for distancing purposes or to look towny. And when did I post a townread of anybody?Do you think this would be an interaction planned in wolfchat? Do you think SoD1 interactions will get planned in wolfchat? Why did you townread the wolf I just gotchaed then pair them to me immediately after?It's an easy interaction to plan in wolfchatYucky from them?Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
How are we aligned?
FMPOV I see this as not an aligned post but is there something I'm missing or are you making stuff up? </3
If you accuse Red of pocketing Zenon, then Zenon must be town or it's not pocketing
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:36:04 PM
Why not? To look towny, to control discussion, to pocket another player, etc.I Can't relate to a SoD1 interaction being planned ever. I Can't relate to such a small interaction being planned at all. Your third post called Sugar open and put them in a positive light but you immediately called them aligned with me afterwards.Interactions are often planned in wolfchat, usually for distancing purposes or to look towny. And when did I post a townread of anybody?Do you think this would be an interaction planned in wolfchat? Do you think SoD1 interactions will get planned in wolfchat? Why did you townread the wolf I just gotchaed then pair them to me immediately after?It's an easy interaction to plan in wolfchatYucky from them?Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
How are we aligned?
FMPOV I see this as not an aligned post but is there something I'm missing or are you making stuff up? </3
So let me understand your PoV: Why do we plan this interaction?
Post by: Oricorio on January 18, 2024, 11:36:50 PM
Your point being?Interactions are often planned in wolfchat, usually for distancing purposes or to look towny. And when did I post a townread of anybody?Do you think this would be an interaction planned in wolfchat? Do you think SoD1 interactions will get planned in wolfchat? Why did you townread the wolf I just gotchaed then pair them to me immediately after?It's an easy interaction to plan in wolfchatYucky from them?Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
How are we aligned?
FMPOV I see this as not an aligned post but is there something I'm missing or are you making stuff up? </3
If you accuse Red of pocketing Zenon, then Zenon must be town or it's not pocketing
Anyway, should probably cool it with the posting when 2/3 of people aren't even here
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 18, 2024, 11:44:51 PM
Your point being?Interactions are often planned in wolfchat, usually for distancing purposes or to look towny. And when did I post a townread of anybody?Do you think this would be an interaction planned in wolfchat? Do you think SoD1 interactions will get planned in wolfchat? Why did you townread the wolf I just gotchaed then pair them to me immediately after?It's an easy interaction to plan in wolfchatYucky from them?Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
How are we aligned?
FMPOV I see this as not an aligned post but is there something I'm missing or are you making stuff up? </3
If you accuse Red of pocketing Zenon, then Zenon must be town or it's not pocketing
Anyway, should probably cool it with the posting when 2/3 of people aren't even here
You asked where you posted a townread
My point is you implied a townread on Zenon by accusing Red of pocketing
But it's w/e, I stayed up for rvs and this has been disappointing
I'm going to bed see you all tomorrow!
Post by: Bellepi on January 19, 2024, 02:20:28 AM
im used to more role madness type mafia games on my home forum, honestly its gonna take like 3 more times rereading whatever the hell happened at start of day to wrap my head around whos accusing who of what
Post by: Loona on January 19, 2024, 02:49:50 AM
Post by: Loona on January 19, 2024, 02:51:20 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 03:07:15 AM
hi im hereAt least some attempt at contribution, though one that doesn't make a stance on what's being commented on
im used to more role madness type mafia games on my home forum, honestly its gonna take like 3 more times rereading whatever the hell happened at start of day to wrap my head around whos accusing who of what
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 03:08:20 AM
Oh dear lord the giant quote bubbles look horrible.Opener purely about site UI (though you could say the same of me, but that was purely because I tried and failed to properly multiquote)
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 03:08:49 AM
How do I vote on this god-forsaken website? I want to rvs someone.If you're gonna make a push, make a push, don't be a coward about it
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 03:18:45 AM
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 03:19:31 AM
Post by: Loona on January 19, 2024, 03:21:14 AM
I haven't read anything, I don't want to push anyone. I wanna place my vote and vanish for a few more hours.How do I vote on this god-forsaken website? I want to rvs someone.If you're gonna make a push, make a push, don't be a coward about it
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 04:29:53 AM
projekt red
abi
sugar moon
oricorio
loona
for me later
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 04:36:31 AM
and that probably Oricorio Town
Idk about red projekt, interaction seems meh for Phoenix
Phoenix nitpicking reads is rand town tho
rest only complained and/or fluff posted
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 04:41:05 AM
as for the setup in general, (and don't take this as me complaining because it's not)
seems like glorified follow the cop
if you are a villager in general try not to do noob PR stuff like staying quiet and trying to not draw attention from the mafia, cuz that's how most mafia players Role hunt in forum format
for bad teams they will just kill whoever scared them the most in general
very few teams try to wifom kills (won't explain this point furter) if you know you know
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 04:43:27 AM
I hard claim vanilla town.Lame
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 04:44:06 AM
LameI haven't read anything, I don't want to push anyone. I wanna place my vote and vanish for a few more hours.How do I vote on this god-forsaken website? I want to rvs someone.If you're gonna make a push, make a push, don't be a coward about it
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 04:44:44 AM
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 04:44:51 AM
Why is it lame?I hard claim vanilla town.Lame
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 04:48:31 AM
Feels way to easy as a claim. At best, you're helping wolves narrow down who the PRs are. Your other posts are fine though.Why is it lame?I hard claim vanilla town.Lame
Also, can the dinging stop already? I admit the deed!—tear up the planks! here, here!—It is the dinging of this hideous website!
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 04:54:47 AM
For town it should be obvious I'm hard putting myself in towncore and hopefully will remain thereFeels way to easy as a claim. At best, you're helping wolves narrow down who the PRs are. Your other posts are fine though.Why is it lame?I hard claim vanilla town.Lame
Also, can the dinging stop already? I admit the deed!—tear up the planks! here, here!—It is the dinging of this hideous website!
as a wolf my action makes no sense day 1 since seer exists
now, am I vanilla?
that's for wolves to figure out
since i don't trust people to think about this line of action I did it myself
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 04:58:06 AM
of course, I am an excellent wolf after all
but right now I'm just middle fingering wolves
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 05:01:05 AM
oricorio townish
sugar townish (adding this after re-read) i kinda like the "come on dude relax it's sod"
Projekt null
Rest
the bar is really low for town right now tho
Post by: Wintermoot on January 19, 2024, 05:29:04 AM
@Caitlin, you need to add the Werewolf game to the topic so people can vote. You should be able to find it under More->Add Werewolf. You can find more instructions for hosts on using the system here (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=7751.0). Once you've done that I'll try to update the correct round start time on the backend. The system doesn't include any role information, so that shouldn't be an issue with me as a player.
Why is the multiquote feature here such a pain in the ass to useIt's a third-party mod, though in fairness I don't know how multiquote works anywhere else lol.
hi im hereGoodness, I feel this lol. I don't understand the first page of chat at all, and I'm going to have to read the rest of it a few more times and let it sink in.
im used to more role madness type mafia games on my home forum, honestly its gonna take like 3 more times rereading whatever the hell happened at start of day to wrap my head around whos accusing who of what
And how do I get this site to stop dinging? This is gonna be obnoxiousI always thought our ping sound was endearing. :P
There was a way to show text only instead of the fancy formatting that made it way easier but I don't remember how to do itWhere you type your post, click the icon that looks like a sheet of paper with lines on it, to the left of the Youtube icon.
Post by: Wintermoot on January 19, 2024, 05:30:59 AM
Sorry for the mis-ping in my last post.
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 05:37:43 AM
I can safely say I have seen worse ui's, this is fine
now, do you have thoughts about the game rn?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 05:49:13 AM
TMI Abi town!Damn your good
Sugar an alignment!
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 05:49:45 AM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 05:50:09 AM
Why is the multiquote feature here such a pain in the ass to useArchaic forum software
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 05:51:35 AM
Pretty sure Ori is incapable of relaxing tbhWhy?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
You're being way too serious for right at SoD, relax
Red was joking
I was joking back
there's nothing AI there
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 05:52:39 AM
I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lolInteractions are often planned in wolfchat, usually for distancing purposes or to look towny. And when did I post a townread of anybody?Do you think this would be an interaction planned in wolfchat? Do you think SoD1 interactions will get planned in wolfchat? Why did you townread the wolf I just gotchaed then pair them to me immediately after?It's an easy interaction to plan in wolfchatYucky from them?Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
How are we aligned?
FMPOV I see this as not an aligned post but is there something I'm missing or are you making stuff up? </3
Post by: Wintermoot on January 19, 2024, 05:53:20 AM
Do wolves plan interactions together on day 1? That seemed a bit wild to me, cause I wouldn't think there's much point, but I can't say it doesn't happen among more hardcore players, I suppose.
I'll have to take another read tomorrow when I'm better rested, and perhaps with some kind of dictionary. I doubt AI is referring to artificial intelligence lol
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 05:53:31 AM
I hard claim vanilla town.I believe you
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 05:54:52 AM
Can Rem come up with this ultimate wifom as wolf?Yeah Rem top town tbh
of course, I am an excellent wolf after all
but right now I'm just middle fingering wolves
Post by: Wintermoot on January 19, 2024, 05:55:30 AM
Just realized this doesn't have the Werewolf UI enabled so I have no idea how to track my post countOnce Caitlin adds the game and I correct the round start time, they should be counted.
Until then, try not to hit 100 posts I suppose. v_v
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 05:56:02 AM
Greetings everyone! For those complaining about the forums, I suppose you can blame me for that. I'm the lone administrator and developer for this forum, and this is a 10+ year old forum with mods and customizations added along the way.I complain very little about this site cause it's a charming archaic forum but the sound does drive me insane lol
@Caitlin, you need to add the Werewolf game to the topic so people can vote. You should be able to find it under More->Add Werewolf. You can find more instructions for hosts on using the system here (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=7751.0). Once you've done that I'll try to update the correct round start time on the backend. The system doesn't include any role information, so that shouldn't be an issue with me as a player.Why is the multiquote feature here such a pain in the ass to useIt's a third-party mod, though in fairness I don't know how multiquote works anywhere else lol.hi im hereGoodness, I feel this lol. I don't understand the first page of chat at all, and I'm going to have to read the rest of it a few more times and let it sink in.
im used to more role madness type mafia games on my home forum, honestly its gonna take like 3 more times rereading whatever the hell happened at start of day to wrap my head around whos accusing who of whatAnd how do I get this site to stop dinging? This is gonna be obnoxiousI always thought our ping sound was endearing. :PThere was a way to show text only instead of the fancy formatting that made it way easier but I don't remember how to do itWhere you type your post, click the icon that looks like a sheet of paper with lines on it, to the left of the Youtube icon.
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 05:57:40 AM
I wish you or I could add it. As it stands Caitlin is asleep and will be for like several hours sadlyJust realized this doesn't have the Werewolf UI enabled so I have no idea how to track my post countOnce Caitlin adds the game and I correct the round start time, they should be counted.
Until then, try not to hit 100 posts I suppose. v_v
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 05:59:26 AM
I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 06:00:38 AM
I read the posts again, and I just don't know. It comes off as a bunch of throwing stuff against the wall and seeing if anything sticks, and it's a bit different from the old native Wintreath games where everyone doesn't really do anything cause nobody believes you can get much information on the first day.More hardcore players would see no point to faking such a thing. And Ori does not seem to understand why this would be planned themselves despite making the accusation.
Do wolves plan interactions together on day 1? That seemed a bit wild to me, cause I wouldn't think there's much point, but I can't say it doesn't happen among more hardcore players, I suppose.
I'll have to take another read tomorrow when I'm better rested, and perhaps with some kind of dictionary. I doubt AI is referring to artificial intelligence lol
Honestly if they had just said they thought it looked partnery it would be fine. But wolves rigidly conform to the words they say which has outted, in my humble opinion, both Ori and Sugar.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 06:02:16 AM
So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 06:02:21 AM
I read the posts again, and I just don't know. It comes off as a bunch of throwing stuff against the wall and seeing if anything sticks, and it's a bit different from the old native Wintreath games where everyone doesn't really do anything cause nobody believes you can get much information on the first day.AI means Alignment Indicative as in
Do wolves plan interactions together on day 1? That seemed a bit wild to me, cause I wouldn't think there's much point, but I can't say it doesn't happen among more hardcore players, I suppose.
I'll have to take another read tomorrow when I'm better rested, and perhaps with some kind of dictionary. I doubt AI is referring to artificial intelligence lol
if someone calls a post or phrase AI is because they think is wolf indicative or town indicative from their point of view
I see, your first phrase is also very newbish mafia, you don't play much do you?
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 06:04:14 AM
So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 06:05:53 AM
Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 06:06:32 AM
Oricorio is towny for questioning and overall better posting than the rest
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 06:08:25 AM
do you think any of these is slam dunk reads or just normal process?Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
by regular mafia players standards
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 06:13:20 AM
do you think any of these is slam dunk reads or just normal process?Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
by regular mafia players standards
My most confident read so far was you/oricorio not w/wI Went back and I can't see them being inquisitive but this could easily be a misplaced vibe read.
Oricorio is towny for questioning and overall better posting than the rest
Do I think my reads on Ori and Sugar are slam dunk or do I think me being town to you should be slam dunk? Yes to the former with little tenitivity and no to the latter.
Post by: Wintermoot on January 19, 2024, 06:16:09 AM
I wish you or I could add it. As it stands Caitlin is asleep and will be for like several hours sadlyI think when I designed it I assumed eventually there would be role information in the system so I didn't give myself any special access in case I was a player. And it'd probably take some time to give myself the button, give myself access to it, add the game, add players, and then switch the host in the backend, so it's probably safer to just wait.
I'm glad somebody likes our archaic forum btw. xD I'm working on an upgrade, but it takes a lot of time to redo 10 years worth of work on a newer version of the forum.
AI means Alignment Indicative as inNewbish, lol...I suppose you could say that. Our games were always casual, though some people from Wintreath later came to prefer the style of game that's played on sites like Mafia Universe. It's also why I don't play often myself...it's hard for me to find time to go through hundreds of posts a day and try to analyze them into something that makes sense. I would guess it's been a few years since I played, and I wasn't very active then. But as an admin, I do appreciate the forum activity boost either way. xD
if someone calls a post or phrase AI is because they think is wolf indicative or town indicative from their point of view
I see, your first phrase is also very newbish mafia, you don't play much do you?
Thanks for the definition, btw!
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 06:17:49 AM
aight pat pat good jobdo you think any of these is slam dunk reads or just normal process?Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
by regular mafia players standardsMy most confident read so far was you/oricorio not w/wI Went back and I can't see them being inquisitive but this could easily be a misplaced vibe read.
Oricorio is towny for questioning and overall better posting than the rest
Do I think my reads on Ori and Sugar are slam dunk or do I think me being town to you should be slam dunk? Yes to the former with little tenitivity and no to the latter.
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 06:22:40 AM
npI wish you or I could add it. As it stands Caitlin is asleep and will be for like several hours sadlyI think when I designed it I assumed eventually there would be role information in the system so I didn't give myself any special access in case I was a player. And it'd probably take some time to give myself the button, give myself access to it, add the game, add players, and then switch the host in the backend, so it's probably safer to just wait.
I'm glad somebody likes our archaic forum btw. xD I'm working on an upgrade, but it takes a lot of time to redo 10 years worth of work on a newer version of the forum.AI means Alignment Indicative as inNewbish, lol...I suppose you could say that. Our games were always casual, though some people from Wintreath later came to prefer the style of game that's played on sites like Mafia Universe. It's also why I don't play often myself...it's hard for me to find time to go through hundreds of posts a day and try to analyze them into something that makes sense. I would guess it's been a few years since I played, and I wasn't very active then. But as an admin, I do appreciate the forum activity boost either way. xD
if someone calls a post or phrase AI is because they think is wolf indicative or town indicative from their point of view
I see, your first phrase is also very newbish mafia, you don't play much do you?
Thanks for the definition, btw!
I see that's fine, I am on the other side a mafia nerd, I'm retiring to hosting mostly tho probably, but I just can't say no to Abigail
how would you resume your process as a town, even if casual, what do you normally do?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 06:45:13 AM
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/ucQ9yWNANh0AAAAd/kyaru-princess-connect.gif)I read the posts again, and I just don't know. It comes off as a bunch of throwing stuff against the wall and seeing if anything sticks, and it's a bit different from the old native Wintreath games where everyone doesn't really do anything cause nobody believes you can get much information on the first day.More hardcore players would see no point to faking such a thing. And Ori does not seem to understand why this would be planned themselves despite making the accusation.
Do wolves plan interactions together on day 1? That seemed a bit wild to me, cause I wouldn't think there's much point, but I can't say it doesn't happen among more hardcore players, I suppose.
I'll have to take another read tomorrow when I'm better rested, and perhaps with some kind of dictionary. I doubt AI is referring to artificial intelligence lol
Honestly if they had just said they thought it looked partnery it would be fine. But wolves rigidly conform to the words they say which has outted, in my humble opinion, both Ori and Sugar.
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 06:46:51 AM
My most confident read so far was you/oricorio not w/wOri is being Ori tbh this is not AI probably
Oricorio is towny for questioning and overall better posting than the rest
Never seen Ori wolf
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 06:49:32 AM
you are probably rightMy most confident read so far was you/oricorio not w/wOri is being Ori tbh this is not AI probably
Oricorio is towny for questioning and overall better posting than the rest
Never seen Ori wolf
I think I have only seen Oricorio host
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 06:49:59 AM
Upgrade nice but I'm never gonna blame you or the site or trash it when I know what you've done hereI wish you or I could add it. As it stands Caitlin is asleep and will be for like several hours sadlyI think when I designed it I assumed eventually there would be role information in the system so I didn't give myself any special access in case I was a player. And it'd probably take some time to give myself the button, give myself access to it, add the game, add players, and then switch the host in the backend, so it's probably safer to just wait.
I'm glad somebody likes our archaic forum btw. xD I'm working on an upgrade, but it takes a lot of time to redo 10 years worth of work on a newer version of the forum.AI means Alignment Indicative as inNewbish, lol...I suppose you could say that. Our games were always casual, though some people from Wintreath later came to prefer the style of game that's played on sites like Mafia Universe. It's also why I don't play often myself...it's hard for me to find time to go through hundreds of posts a day and try to analyze them into something that makes sense. I would guess it's been a few years since I played, and I wasn't very active then. But as an admin, I do appreciate the forum activity boost either way. xD
if someone calls a post or phrase AI is because they think is wolf indicative or town indicative from their point of view
I see, your first phrase is also very newbish mafia, you don't play much do you?
Thanks for the definition, btw!
That's why I am for Werewolf UI updates if and when you can do them and don't worry too much about how long it takes
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 06:51:04 AM
Aww I adore you!npI wish you or I could add it. As it stands Caitlin is asleep and will be for like several hours sadlyI think when I designed it I assumed eventually there would be role information in the system so I didn't give myself any special access in case I was a player. And it'd probably take some time to give myself the button, give myself access to it, add the game, add players, and then switch the host in the backend, so it's probably safer to just wait.
I'm glad somebody likes our archaic forum btw. xD I'm working on an upgrade, but it takes a lot of time to redo 10 years worth of work on a newer version of the forum.AI means Alignment Indicative as inNewbish, lol...I suppose you could say that. Our games were always casual, though some people from Wintreath later came to prefer the style of game that's played on sites like Mafia Universe. It's also why I don't play often myself...it's hard for me to find time to go through hundreds of posts a day and try to analyze them into something that makes sense. I would guess it's been a few years since I played, and I wasn't very active then. But as an admin, I do appreciate the forum activity boost either way. xD
if someone calls a post or phrase AI is because they think is wolf indicative or town indicative from their point of view
I see, your first phrase is also very newbish mafia, you don't play much do you?
Thanks for the definition, btw!
I see that's fine, I am on the other side a mafia nerd, I'm retiring to hosting mostly tho probably, but I just can't say no to Abigail
how would you resume your process as a town, even if casual, what do you normally do?
You should invite me to any game you host tbh
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 06:54:13 AM
will do buttercup!Aww I adore you!npI wish you or I could add it. As it stands Caitlin is asleep and will be for like several hours sadlyI think when I designed it I assumed eventually there would be role information in the system so I didn't give myself any special access in case I was a player. And it'd probably take some time to give myself the button, give myself access to it, add the game, add players, and then switch the host in the backend, so it's probably safer to just wait.
I'm glad somebody likes our archaic forum btw. xD I'm working on an upgrade, but it takes a lot of time to redo 10 years worth of work on a newer version of the forum.AI means Alignment Indicative as inNewbish, lol...I suppose you could say that. Our games were always casual, though some people from Wintreath later came to prefer the style of game that's played on sites like Mafia Universe. It's also why I don't play often myself...it's hard for me to find time to go through hundreds of posts a day and try to analyze them into something that makes sense. I would guess it's been a few years since I played, and I wasn't very active then. But as an admin, I do appreciate the forum activity boost either way. xD
if someone calls a post or phrase AI is because they think is wolf indicative or town indicative from their point of view
I see, your first phrase is also very newbish mafia, you don't play much do you?
Thanks for the definition, btw!
I see that's fine, I am on the other side a mafia nerd, I'm retiring to hosting mostly tho probably, but I just can't say no to Abigail
how would you resume your process as a town, even if casual, what do you normally do?
You should invite me to any game you host tbh
someone will read my posts in this page and say I'm trying to pocket
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 06:55:06 AM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 06:56:45 AM
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 06:57:50 AM
Probably but they've just never seen us play together before lolthey are not ready for - ready for, the perfect storm - perfect storm!
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 07:02:25 AM
Like that one game on TS was way worse than this and we were both town lollol yeah
you did vote me in the end i think??
mutiny! that's mutiny!
the system was upturned, and the people were rioting, and everything was left asunder!
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 07:04:49 AM
Which is trash play but
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 07:05:33 AM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 07:09:13 AM
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 07:14:33 AM
I won't kill you this time promise uwuDo kill me if you are wolf tho uwu
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 07:17:50 AM
I'll night 1 you if I'm a wolf promise but you need to n1 me if you areI won't kill you this time promise uwuDo kill me if you are wolf tho uwu
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 07:20:24 AM
DealI'll night 1 you if I'm a wolf promise but you need to n1 me if you areI won't kill you this time promise uwuDo kill me if you are wolf tho uwu
(https://c.tenor.com/rmklzHMYy80AAAAC/nichijou-anime.gif)
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 07:26:45 AM
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 19, 2024, 08:43:51 AM
I believe I made the game, so could you please adjust the day start for me?
Also means people can vote starting now, I think
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 08:44:48 AM
gonna catch up soon
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 08:45:41 AM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 08:49:56 AM
Hi Ex
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 10:07:37 AM
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 19, 2024, 02:09:58 PM
Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 02:13:52 PM
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 19, 2024, 02:15:55 PM
If red is who I think that's normal
I thought you two knew eachother? Or is it just Rem?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 02:18:18 PM
I might know them I'm not sureIf red is who I think that's normal
I thought you two knew eachother? Or is it just Rem?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 02:18:27 PM
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 19, 2024, 02:21:58 PM
I went to check who was playing this game from the previous one and it's just Ex and myself which is a bit wild.
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 02:24:03 PM
I agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinks"I refuse to town read effort"Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
"Abigail is asking good questions, town lean"
"These 3 people are sus for doing nothing"
Hello?
While effort for me particularly is not AI, you are claiming to no know me
And your post is filled with contradictions
Can you re articulate, what do you town read?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 02:24:50 PM
I... don't recognize anyone else
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 02:25:26 PM
Even Ex is just a guest here
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 02:28:09 PM
Although idk who you are and you probably don't know me
But point and question still stand
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 19, 2024, 02:34:47 PM
"I refuse to town read effort"
"Abigail is asking good questions, town lean"
"These 3 people are sus for doing nothing"
Hello?
While effort for me particularly is not AI, you are claiming to no know me
And your post is filled with contradictions
Can you re articulate, what do you town read?
Asking good questions =/= making a lot of posts
And I said nothing at all about the three people who haven't posted at all yet. It's not the number of posts, it's what you do with them.
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 19, 2024, 02:45:48 PM
"I refuse to town read effort"
"Abigail is asking good questions, town lean"
"These 3 people are sus for doing nothing"
Hello?
While effort for me particularly is not AI, you are claiming to no know me
And your post is filled with contradictions
Can you re articulate, what do you town read?
Asking good questions =/= making a lot of posts
And I said nothing at all about the three people who haven't posted at all yet. It's not the number of posts, it's what you do with them.
I guess "comments" would have been the better word choice is that what's putting you off?
I found myself nodding along with her posts much more than with yours, sorry.
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 02:47:33 PM
You are dodging the question, you said Loona/bellepy/ex were sus"I refuse to town read effort"
"Abigail is asking good questions, town lean"
"These 3 people are sus for doing nothing"
Hello?
While effort for me particularly is not AI, you are claiming to no know me
And your post is filled with contradictions
Can you re articulate, what do you town read?
Asking good questions =/= making a lot of posts
And I said nothing at all about the three people who haven't posted at all yet. It's not the number of posts, it's what you do with them.
What are you basing these reads on if not effort?
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 02:49:16 PM
Which ones?
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 19, 2024, 03:03:12 PM
You are dodging the question, you said Loona/bellepy/ex were sus
What are you basing these reads on if not effort?
It's literally in the post? I'm not scumreading that they've got few posts (or I'd also have to scumread the zero-posters), I'm pointing out that they've come to the thread just to show they're here and without doing anything relevant.
There's a very good chance one of them is a wolf who wants to avoid being scumread for zero-posting but without knowing which stance to take yet on what's going on. And mind you I said 1/3, it's not like I'm saying all of them have to be wolves.
We're currently in a state where half the players don't have readable content yet.
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 03:06:28 PM
Your post could be considered a summary of what i've been saying
Point 1. Red projekt and oricorio not w/w (did you forget you agreed with me when you posted your apology?)
Point 2. The people who posted and dissapeared instantly go below null because that's just standard
Point 3. Agreeing with Abigail's remarks
You remark that you have experience in your point for winter so if you are trying to figure out my alignment why did you put me in null if our views are similar/you agree with them?
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 19, 2024, 03:08:14 PM
Ok you are nooding to Abigail's "comments"
Which ones?
Ok I'll go reread and get them
But why is this needling you so hard
Do you think she hasn't done anything AI yet?
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 03:11:39 PM
This is not the point my guyYou are dodging the question, you said Loona/bellepy/ex were sus
What are you basing these reads on if not effort?
It's literally in the post? I'm not scumreading that they've got few posts (or I'd also have to scumread the zero-posters), I'm pointing out that they've come to the thread just to show they're here and without doing anything relevant.
There's a very good chance one of them is a wolf who wants to avoid being scumread for zero-posting but without knowing which stance to take yet on what's going on. And mind you I said 1/3, it's not like I'm saying all of them have to be wolves.
We're currently in a state where half the players don't have readable content yet.
You have me in null "because you refuse to town read effort"
You town leaned abigail because you agree with her posts apparently, that you haven't told me which ones yet
But at the same time sus people for doing nothing
It's hypocritical and contradictory
So which one is it?
you know me and slipped with that read
You are faking your reads
Is it both?
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 03:16:01 PM
This is not about AbigailOk you are nooding to Abigail's "comments"
Which ones?
Ok I'll go reread and get them
But why is this needling you so hard
Do you think she hasn't done anything AI yet?
Your statements are not making sense to me
Because:
1.you yourself said that you agreed with me
2.I have agreed with Abi
3. Your post is a summary of what i'm seeing
Yet you "refuse to town read my effort"
Why? What? How is that a logical conclusion?
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 19, 2024, 03:18:58 PM
Let me rephrase why you sound disingenuous to me.
Your post could be considered a summary of what i've been saying
Point 1. Red projekt and oricorio not w/w (did you forget you agreed with me when you posted your apology?)
Point 2. The people who posted and dissapeared instantly go below null because that's just standard
Point 3. Agreeing with Abigail's remarks
You remark that you have experience in your point for winter so if you are trying to figure out my alignment why did you put me in null if our views are similar/you agree with them?
Ok so you're basically just sore that I'm not giving you a townread when you think I should because we have similar reads?
Though I'll be honest other than the "not w/w" thing I don't remember you actively expressing them like I did
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 03:28:09 PM
I think you missed a lot if you actually read instead of skim to post whatever thenLet me rephrase why you sound disingenuous to me.
Your post could be considered a summary of what i've been saying
Point 1. Red projekt and oricorio not w/w (did you forget you agreed with me when you posted your apology?)
Point 2. The people who posted and dissapeared instantly go below null because that's just standard
Point 3. Agreeing with Abigail's remarks
You remark that you have experience in your point for winter so if you are trying to figure out my alignment why did you put me in null if our views are similar/you agree with them?
Ok so you're basically just sore that I'm not giving you a townread when you think I should because we have similar reads?
Though I'll be honest other than the "not w/w" thing I don't remember you actively expressing them like I did
Vote: Sugar Moon
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 03:31:39 PM
And i'm not sore, i was waiting for a real answer and you did not deliver
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 19, 2024, 03:49:53 PM
I think you missed a lot if you actually read instead of skim to post whatever then
Vote: Sugar Moon
I find it mildly funny that you're now essentially scumreading me for not putting in enough effort
Inb4 Oricorio tells us we planned this in scumchat
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 03:55:24 PM
Sadly this does give Abigail partner equityHarmful
And i'm not sore, i was waiting for a real answer and you did not deliver
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 03:55:47 PM
This is unbelievably likely lolI think you missed a lot if you actually read instead of skim to post whatever then
Vote: Sugar Moon
I find it mildly funny that you're now essentially scumreading me for not putting in enough effort
Inb4 Oricorio tells us we planned this in scumchat
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 04:36:39 PM
I agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksFirstly you can't feel me itching to sus Ori because I do sus Ori. That should be very clear from my posts so far. I Am not remotely wolfy and am as about as far from TWTBAW as you can get. I Would like to see you try to explain how I'm TWTBAW purely for this one comment when otherwise you townread me. Also wondering how you consider this to have a TWTBAW "vibe" while sussing it. I Would imagine the "vibe" you get would be close to your actual beliefs. You could say that you have a confident logical reason for wolfreading me that causes you to ignore your viberead but you don't seem to have confidence in your read on me, only a FoS.Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Not sure why this setup would make you sweat buckets BTW.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 04:44:44 PM
Sadly this does give Abigail partner equityI Would lean towards Sugar's second post being genuine if they are a wolf.
And i'm not sore, i was waiting for a real answer and you did not deliver
Also Ori is a wolf and is spewing Abi village.
Forgot to vote.
Vote: Sugar Moon
Also BTW you are a wolf too.
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 05:03:21 PM
I hate everything being AI nowadaysEverything is AI, as whenever you make a post in mafia you will inevitably be subconsciously aware of your own alignment which will be reflected in your posts. It's never to early to start solving.Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
You're being way too serious for right at SoD, relax
Red was joking
I was joking back
there's nothing AI there
me and my homies hate chatgpt
I don't know how to tell u this butFor town it should be obvious I'm hard putting myself in towncore and hopefully will remain thereFeels way to easy as a claim. At best, you're helping wolves narrow down who the PRs are. Your other posts are fine though.Why is it lame?I hard claim vanilla town.Lame
Also, can the dinging stop already? I admit the deed!—tear up the planks! here, here!—It is the dinging of this hideous website!
as a wolf my action makes no sense day 1 since seer exists
now, am I vanilla?
that's for wolves to figure out
since i don't trust people to think about this line of action I did it myself
claiming vanilla aint doing shit for u
u shouldn't be in anyones towncore just because of that because all wolves wanna claim vanilla
he's actually one of the strongest players in this forumsI read the posts again, and I just don't know. It comes off as a bunch of throwing stuff against the wall and seeing if anything sticks, and it's a bit different from the old native Wintreath games where everyone doesn't really do anything cause nobody believes you can get much information on the first day.AI means Alignment Indicative as in
Do wolves plan interactions together on day 1? That seemed a bit wild to me, cause I wouldn't think there's much point, but I can't say it doesn't happen among more hardcore players, I suppose.
I'll have to take another read tomorrow when I'm better rested, and perhaps with some kind of dictionary. I doubt AI is referring to artificial intelligence lol
if someone calls a post or phrase AI is because they think is wolf indicative or town indicative from their point of view
I see, your first phrase is also very newbish mafia, you don't play much do you?
it's just that
the forums is a bit detached from the meta mafia communities and kinda grew into its own thing
which is kinda the point of abbi trying to spice things up by inviting people from other communities here
You can vote now hoorayhi abbi!
Hi Ex
I agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksomfl it was 5:45AM I literally only remembered the game right before heading to bedCertainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
if you angleshoot you can actually realize why this is townie
I'm here for real now, currently catching up
it's ok u can say u scumread me because you hate me for my play last game
So far, honestly a bit disappointed with the beginning of D1 because I think all the finger pointing without any votes (even if RVS) is not that useful
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 05:06:47 PM
are you leetic/ snowy
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 05:28:23 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 05:34:38 PM
feelin ready to kick mafia's ass this game?
Post by: Wintermoot on January 19, 2024, 05:51:17 PM
Will read through the new posts later today when I have a chance
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 19, 2024, 06:03:13 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 06:27:34 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 06:29:16 PM
Vote: Projekt RedI agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksFirstly you can't feel me itching to sus Ori because I do sus Ori. That should be very clear from my posts so far. I Am not remotely wolfy and am as about as far from TWTBAW as you can get. I Would like to see you try to explain how I'm TWTBAW purely for this one comment when otherwise you townread me. Also wondering how you consider this to have a TWTBAW "vibe" while sussing it. I Would imagine the "vibe" you get would be close to your actual beliefs. You could say that you have a confident logical reason for wolfreading me that causes you to ignore your viberead but you don't seem to have confidence in your read on me, only a FoS.Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Not sure why this setup would make you sweat buckets BTW.
All I really see here is "people who townread me are town, people who wolfread me are wolves"
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 06:31:02 PM
hi im hereAm I the only one who completely forgot this person was playing the game? Please contribute
im used to more role madness type mafia games on my home forum, honestly its gonna take like 3 more times rereading whatever the hell happened at start of day to wrap my head around whos accusing who of what
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 06:32:22 PM
Rem town
ExLight town? (I guess that vote is a little bold for a wolf, though I'd still like to see more effort from here)
Projekt wolf
Moon wolf
Everyone else needs to step up
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 06:33:33 PM
Round time and thus postcounts should be fixedIf I didn't know better I'd think you were a host of MoD based on your ISO this game. What are your actual thoughts on the game?
Will read through the new posts later today when I have a chance
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 07:06:54 PM
In the interest of science can you reread my post until you grasp what I'm saying?Vote: Projekt RedI agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksFirstly you can't feel me itching to sus Ori because I do sus Ori. That should be very clear from my posts so far. I Am not remotely wolfy and am as about as far from TWTBAW as you can get. I Would like to see you try to explain how I'm TWTBAW purely for this one comment when otherwise you townread me. Also wondering how you consider this to have a TWTBAW "vibe" while sussing it. I Would imagine the "vibe" you get would be close to your actual beliefs. You could say that you have a confident logical reason for wolfreading me that causes you to ignore your viberead but you don't seem to have confidence in your read on me, only a FoS.Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Not sure why this setup would make you sweat buckets BTW.
All I really see here is "people who townread me are town, people who wolfread me are wolves"
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 07:45:31 PM
OMGUS?In the interest of science can you reread my post until you grasp what I'm saying?Vote: Projekt RedI agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksFirstly you can't feel me itching to sus Ori because I do sus Ori. That should be very clear from my posts so far. I Am not remotely wolfy and am as about as far from TWTBAW as you can get. I Would like to see you try to explain how I'm TWTBAW purely for this one comment when otherwise you townread me. Also wondering how you consider this to have a TWTBAW "vibe" while sussing it. I Would imagine the "vibe" you get would be close to your actual beliefs. You could say that you have a confident logical reason for wolfreading me that causes you to ignore your viberead but you don't seem to have confidence in your read on me, only a FoS.Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Not sure why this setup would make you sweat buckets BTW.
All I really see here is "people who townread me are town, people who wolfread me are wolves"
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 07:51:07 PM
I believe ExLight is the only new one who showed up after I left? They had a post saying they'll catch up, not the most impressive effort, then voting without any elaboration. Why? Also, I am leetic but amn't Snowy....I'm asking because we played together a handful of times in the past few years
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 07:52:52 PM
What's with the vote, then?I believe ExLight is the only new one who showed up after I left? They had a post saying they'll catch up, not the most impressive effort, then voting without any elaboration. Why? Also, I am leetic but amn't Snowy....I'm asking because we played together a handful of times in the past few years
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 07:58:57 PM
What in heavens is TWTBAWOMGUS?In the interest of science can you reread my post until you grasp what I'm saying?Vote: Projekt RedI agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksFirstly you can't feel me itching to sus Ori because I do sus Ori. That should be very clear from my posts so far. I Am not remotely wolfy and am as about as far from TWTBAW as you can get. I Would like to see you try to explain how I'm TWTBAW purely for this one comment when otherwise you townread me. Also wondering how you consider this to have a TWTBAW "vibe" while sussing it. I Would imagine the "vibe" you get would be close to your actual beliefs. You could say that you have a confident logical reason for wolfreading me that causes you to ignore your viberead but you don't seem to have confidence in your read on me, only a FoS.Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Not sure why this setup would make you sweat buckets BTW.
All I really see here is "people who townread me are town, people who wolfread me are wolves"
And how is this OMGUS
They're saying they're finding scummy how some people just hopped in to throw a CWAC saying they're around which is, like, very common among wolf
Which is perfectly fair reasoning but, like, quite NAI
That's a silly question coming from someone that also came from Bulbagarden. Is RVS really that odd to you now?What's with the vote, then?I believe ExLight is the only new one who showed up after I left? They had a post saying they'll catch up, not the most impressive effort, then voting without any elaboration. Why? Also, I am leetic but amn't Snowy....I'm asking because we played together a handful of times in the past few years
Plus I was never too fond of you, I'm fine sitting on you since you squak a lot with pressure.
Why are you even townreading me over a RVS?
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 08:07:35 PM
Well, that's one person I have SOME meta on, I guessThe point of RVS is that there is some reason, even if it is a silly reason. Then again I haven't played in Bulba in years so I wouldn't know.What in heavens is TWTBAWOMGUS?In the interest of science can you reread my post until you grasp what I'm saying?Vote: Projekt RedI agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksFirstly you can't feel me itching to sus Ori because I do sus Ori. That should be very clear from my posts so far. I Am not remotely wolfy and am as about as far from TWTBAW as you can get. I Would like to see you try to explain how I'm TWTBAW purely for this one comment when otherwise you townread me. Also wondering how you consider this to have a TWTBAW "vibe" while sussing it. I Would imagine the "vibe" you get would be close to your actual beliefs. You could say that you have a confident logical reason for wolfreading me that causes you to ignore your viberead but you don't seem to have confidence in your read on me, only a FoS.Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Not sure why this setup would make you sweat buckets BTW.
All I really see here is "people who townread me are town, people who wolfread me are wolves"
And how is this OMGUS
They're saying they're finding scummy how some people just hopped in to throw a CWAC saying they're around which is, like, very common among wolf
Which is perfectly fair reasoning but, like, quite NAIThat's a silly question coming from someone that also came from Bulbagarden. Is RVS really that odd to you now?What's with the vote, then?I believe ExLight is the only new one who showed up after I left? They had a post saying they'll catch up, not the most impressive effort, then voting without any elaboration. Why? Also, I am leetic but amn't Snowy....I'm asking because we played together a handful of times in the past few years
Plus I was never too fond of you, I'm fine sitting on you since you squak a lot with pressure.
Why are you even townreading me over a RVS?
Going after a vocal player usually isn't something wolves are wont to do. Still, I don't see how you think applying pressure is wolfy when it's the best way to push a game forward (far, far better than RVS).
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 08:12:51 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 08:15:10 PM
ime if anything wolves WILL prefer to go after active players because most wolves are lame and prefer to win by nuking the active players and leaving inactive or out of the loop players in the endgame to ensure an easy win
so that logic is just
not great?
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 08:15:44 PM
are you forgetting that the R in RVS stands for RandomPeople use "random" for tons of things that aren't random (e.g. "I talked to this random guy today!") It's not like people pull names from a hat and then vote for them. In fact, doing that would be wolfy since you're not committing to any sort of thought process.
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 08:16:57 PM
also good wolves won't give a fuck whether the person is active or notGood wolves prefer to pocket active players, not go after them which can easily backfire. Especially in a game with as many slankers as this one.
ime if anything wolves WILL prefer to go after active players because most wolves are lame and prefer to win by nuking the active players and leaving inactive or out of the loop players in the endgame to ensure an easy win
so that logic is just
not great?
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 08:18:22 PM
but like being loud (or vocal) and being a townleader are two very different things and I think it's still a bit too early for there to be a townleading player since we haven't had some flips to see who's playing well this game
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 08:21:50 PM
I'm so confused by your exampleare you forgetting that the R in RVS stands for RandomPeople use "random" for tons of things that aren't random (e.g. "I talked to this random guy today!") It's not like people pull names from a hat and then vote for them. In fact, doing that would be wolfy since you're not committing to any sort of thought process.
but yea people do in fact pull names out a hat during the RVS, that's kinda the whole point
vote random, see who overreacts (or lacks reaction), and then you have a brief foundation on what's worth poking or not
pocketing is a bad wolf play and kinda only works on newbies??also good wolves won't give a fuck whether the person is active or notGood wolves prefer to pocket active players, not go after them which can easily backfire. Especially in a game with as many slankers as this one.
ime if anything wolves WILL prefer to go after active players because most wolves are lame and prefer to win by nuking the active players and leaving inactive or out of the loop players in the endgame to ensure an easy win
so that logic is just
not great?
good mafia players will realize the possibility of being pocketed and will actually start getting paranoid of the people doing so
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 08:26:48 PM
If there's no case on someone, what is there to react to? Why bot do pressuring, which actually generates reactions? RVS fucking sucks and there's a reason that good werewolf sites don't do itI'm so confused by your exampleare you forgetting that the R in RVS stands for RandomPeople use "random" for tons of things that aren't random (e.g. "I talked to this random guy today!") It's not like people pull names from a hat and then vote for them. In fact, doing that would be wolfy since you're not committing to any sort of thought process.
but yea people do in fact pull names out a hat during the RVS, that's kinda the whole point
vote random, see who overreacts (or lacks reaction), and then you have a brief foundation on what's worth poking or notpocketing is a bad wolf play and kinda only works on newbies??also good wolves won't give a fuck whether the person is active or notGood wolves prefer to pocket active players, not go after them which can easily backfire. Especially in a game with as many slankers as this one.
ime if anything wolves WILL prefer to go after active players because most wolves are lame and prefer to win by nuking the active players and leaving inactive or out of the loop players in the endgame to ensure an easy win
so that logic is just
not great?
good mafia players will realize the possibility of being pocketed and will actually start getting paranoid of the people doing so
Also, if you think you can't get pocketed, you are probably one of the players most vulnerable to being pocketed
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 08:28:45 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 08:34:19 PM
you're literally reacting to my vote proving the fact that it does indeed generate reactionsBecause it sucks. Don't think that's the reaction you're looking for
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 08:36:37 PM
and it's amusing
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 08:38:02 PM
also nobody said anything about "can't get pocketed". I said that good players will always be paranoid of being pocketed, which makes it a risky play for wolvesIf there's no case on someone, what is there to react to? Why bot do pressuring, which actually generates reactions? RVS fucking sucks and there's a reason that good werewolf sites don't do itI'm so confused by your exampleare you forgetting that the R in RVS stands for RandomPeople use "random" for tons of things that aren't random (e.g. "I talked to this random guy today!") It's not like people pull names from a hat and then vote for them. In fact, doing that would be wolfy since you're not committing to any sort of thought process.
but yea people do in fact pull names out a hat during the RVS, that's kinda the whole point
vote random, see who overreacts (or lacks reaction), and then you have a brief foundation on what's worth poking or notpocketing is a bad wolf play and kinda only works on newbies??also good wolves won't give a fuck whether the person is active or notGood wolves prefer to pocket active players, not go after them which can easily backfire. Especially in a game with as many slankers as this one.
ime if anything wolves WILL prefer to go after active players because most wolves are lame and prefer to win by nuking the active players and leaving inactive or out of the loop players in the endgame to ensure an easy win
so that logic is just
not great?
good mafia players will realize the possibility of being pocketed and will actually start getting paranoid of the people doing so
Also, if you think you can't get pocketed, you are probably one of the players most vulnerable to being pocketed
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 08:45:07 PM
It's not really that risky, since wolves can shoot said player if it doesn't work out.also nobody said anything about "can't get pocketed". I said that good players will always be paranoid of being pocketed, which makes it a risky play for wolvesIf there's no case on someone, what is there to react to? Why bot do pressuring, which actually generates reactions? RVS fucking sucks and there's a reason that good werewolf sites don't do itI'm so confused by your exampleare you forgetting that the R in RVS stands for RandomPeople use "random" for tons of things that aren't random (e.g. "I talked to this random guy today!") It's not like people pull names from a hat and then vote for them. In fact, doing that would be wolfy since you're not committing to any sort of thought process.
but yea people do in fact pull names out a hat during the RVS, that's kinda the whole point
vote random, see who overreacts (or lacks reaction), and then you have a brief foundation on what's worth poking or notpocketing is a bad wolf play and kinda only works on newbies??also good wolves won't give a fuck whether the person is active or notGood wolves prefer to pocket active players, not go after them which can easily backfire. Especially in a game with as many slankers as this one.
ime if anything wolves WILL prefer to go after active players because most wolves are lame and prefer to win by nuking the active players and leaving inactive or out of the loop players in the endgame to ensure an easy win
so that logic is just
not great?
good mafia players will realize the possibility of being pocketed and will actually start getting paranoid of the people doing so
Also, if you think you can't get pocketed, you are probably one of the players most vulnerable to being pocketed
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 09:01:22 PM
TWTBAW is short for Too Wolfy To Be A Wolf. It's technically a fallacy but can be helpful for some people in determining if something they perceive as wolfy is actually wolfy.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 09:11:08 PM
This makes me paranoid about my Sugar read too.
Vote: Rem
I Actually have experience with you.
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 09:17:46 PM
I'm extremely annoyed at the thought that Ori might be town.And you are either
This makes me paranoid about my Sugar read too.
Vote: Rem
I Actually have experience with you.
wolf
Or still terrible at reading me
Or still a terrible player
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 09:24:06 PM
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 09:24:19 PM
After re-reading Sugar i still think they are wolf
Oricorio is fine
Red is red
Ex is fine
Post by: Master Radishes on January 19, 2024, 09:25:39 PM
Post by: Rem on January 19, 2024, 09:27:34 PM
But I've never been terrible at reading you. The worst I've done is give up my correct read for paranoia or sanity.You have scum read me in every single game we play together over more obvious bad slots
And is not going to do you any good if you are town this game
Post by: Oricorio on January 19, 2024, 09:36:13 PM
Hi. I'm going to be the visitor who is way too cool to act like I'm taking this seriously.Lazy entrance, but that doesn't seem atypical of this player given my experience. Still, with so many slankers, you're gonna have to contribute.
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 09:50:59 PM
if he scumread you in every game wouldn't that be NAI? what's the reason you're sussing his slot again?But I've never been terrible at reading you. The worst I've done is give up my correct read for paranoia or sanity.You have scum read me in every single game we play together over more obvious bad slots
And is not going to do you any good if you are town this game
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 09:54:36 PM
Rem was probably rolehunting Abi should be fine to say that. Telling the PRs how to not PR tell was bait too. Shouldn't be a problem with saying this. Not sure I actually trust Abi as town from this tbh.
I Don't wanna read Sugar right now.
"Sadly this does give Abigail partner equity
And i'm not sore, i was waiting for a real answer and you did not deliver"
^ Not w/w/w obviously. Paired with Abi.
"feelin ready to kick mafia's ass this game?"
Abi never responded to this but I don't know if that's pairing. Maybe unpairing. Maybe towny for Abi Ex what do you think.
Post by: Master Radishes on January 19, 2024, 09:57:47 PM
Nah. Too cool to contribute.Hi. I'm going to be the visitor who is way too cool to act like I'm taking this seriously.Lazy entrance, but that doesn't seem atypical of this player given my experience. Still, with so many slankers, you're gonna have to contribute.
Post by: Master Radishes on January 19, 2024, 10:09:30 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 10:43:08 PM
Rem calling Ori inquisitive was probably TMI yeah.I kinda agree yea
Rem was probably rolehunting Abi should be fine to say that. Telling the PRs how to not PR tell was bait too. Shouldn't be a problem with saying this. Not sure I actually trust Abi as town from this tbh.
I Don't wanna read Sugar right now.
"Sadly this does give Abigail partner equity
And i'm not sore, i was waiting for a real answer and you did not deliver"
^ Not w/w/w obviously. Paired with Abi.
"feelin ready to kick mafia's ass this game?"
Abi never responded to this but I don't know if that's pairing. Maybe unpairing. Maybe towny for Abi Ex what do you think.
Despite having experience with Abbi I have a hard time reading her
I had a game where she was scumbuds with me very recently so I think it helped refresh my meta on her and there she was fairly straightforward but it only really started showing on -Lo
So far nothing really pinged me about her but I'm willing to give a townlean due to her CWAC not seeming to be looking for an opportunity to push for a LHF
Post by: Projekt Red on January 19, 2024, 10:55:21 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 19, 2024, 11:02:35 PM
it's when people do fluff or some analysis that seem like they're pushing for discussion but are actually very shallow
Post by: Bellepi on January 20, 2024, 01:19:43 AM
i caught some sort of illness and have been sleeping all the time/feeling awful so i havent really been focusing on the game as of late, i should get over it by next Day Phase cause i saw a doctor and got meds todayhi im hereAm I the only one who completely forgot this person was playing the game? Please contribute
im used to more role madness type mafia games on my home forum, honestly its gonna take like 3 more times rereading whatever the hell happened at start of day to wrap my head around whos accusing who of what
but ill try my best to put together thoughts before EoD today
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 03:10:09 AM
Vote: Bellepii caught some sort of illness and have been sleeping all the time/feeling awful so i havent really been focusing on the game as of late, i should get over it by next Day Phase cause i saw a doctor and got meds todayhi im hereAm I the only one who completely forgot this person was playing the game? Please contribute
im used to more role madness type mafia games on my home forum, honestly its gonna take like 3 more times rereading whatever the hell happened at start of day to wrap my head around whos accusing who of what
but ill try my best to put together thoughts before EoD today
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 03:10:32 AM
Rem calling Ori inquisitive was probably TMI yeah.good fanfic
Rem was probably rolehunting Abi should be fine to say that. Telling the PRs how to not PR tell was bait too. Shouldn't be a problem with saying this. Not sure I actually trust Abi as town from this tbh.
I Don't wanna read Sugar right now.
"Sadly this does give Abigail partner equity
And i'm not sore, i was waiting for a real answer and you did not deliver"
^ Not w/w/w obviously. Paired with Abi.
"feelin ready to kick mafia's ass this game?"
Abi never responded to this but I don't know if that's pairing. Maybe unpairing. Maybe towny for Abi Ex what do you think.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 03:13:53 AM
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 03:17:03 AM
Loona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesas in
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
to think that at lest 3 of these slots have to town is annoying
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:26:02 AM
I hard claim vanilla town.Man, I wanted to multi-quote a bunch of posts but doesn't function how I want at all. Not sure what the point of this claim is, not only does it risk narrowing the pool for town prs it's also just an easy claim for the mafia to make.
I don't see you as the type of player to claim to take a bullet.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:27:08 AM
First impressions on that bunch tho are that Projekt and oricorio not w/wI haven't read alot, but Ori content seems pretty forced though I am mostly basing this off their interactions with me since I don't fully understand why they called out my first couple posts when I had just entered the thread.
and that probably Oricorio Town
Idk about red projekt, interaction seems meh for Phoenix
Phoenix nitpicking reads is rand town tho
rest only complained and/or fluff posted
Post by: Bellepi on January 20, 2024, 03:28:39 AM
Loona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 03:29:33 AM
I already explained itI hard claim vanilla town.Man, I wanted to multi-quote a bunch of posts but doesn't function how I want at all. Not sure what the point of this claim is, not only does it risk narrowing the pool for town prs it's also just an easy claim for the mafia to make.
I don't see you as the type of player to claim to take a bullet.
do i know you?
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:31:24 AM
@CaitlinuwuThanks for UI stuff
Sorry for the mis-ping in my last post.
Seer would never check a day 1 claim, over slots that haven't claimed anything but maybe that's how I view myself.For town it should be obvious I'm hard putting myself in towncore and hopefully will remain thereFeels way to easy as a claim. At best, you're helping wolves narrow down who the PRs are. Your other posts are fine though.Why is it lame?Lame
I hard claim vanilla town.
Also, can the dinging stop already? I admit the deed!—tear up the planks! here, here!—It is the dinging of this hideous website!
as a wolf my action makes no sense day 1 since seer exists
now, am I vanilla?
that's for wolves to figure out
since i don't trust people to think about this line of action I did it myself
I guess Ori noticed the same thing, because yes it was lame.Why is it lame?Lame
I hard claim vanilla town.
Meh, I don't really see it yet.
Although Rem can get a tentative townlean for being the only person really trying here
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 03:32:15 AM
if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:33:45 AM
I missed this since I skipped the first 3 pages then got distracted, but I also noticed this. Though it seems Ori is always like this?Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
You're being way too serious for right at SoD, relax
Red was joking
I was joking back
there's nothing AI there
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:41:59 AM
Quote from: Wintermoot 1/19/2024, 12:53:20 AM
I read the posts again, and I just don't know. It comes off as a bunch of throwing stuff against the wall and seeing if anything sticks, and it's a bit different from the old native Wintreath games where everyone doesn't really do anything cause nobody believes you can get much information on the first day.
Do wolves plan interactions together on day 1? That seemed a bit wild to me, cause I wouldn't think there's much point, but I can't say it doesn't happen among more hardcore players, I suppose.
I'll have to take another read tomorrow when I'm better rested, and perhaps with some kind of dictionary. I doubt AI is referring to artificial intelligence lol
I think the most powerful phase is day 1, since it has a tendency to be the most active and like you mentioned stuff is just thrown against the wall.
Assume AI stuff was answered but if not it just means alignment indictive.
I read the posts again, and I just don't know. It comes off as a bunch of throwing stuff against the wall and seeing if anything sticks, and it's a bit different from the old native Wintreath games where everyone doesn't really do anything cause nobody believes you can get much information on the first day.More hardcore players would see no point to faking such a thing. And Ori does not seem to understand why this would be planned themselves despite making the accusation.
Do wolves plan interactions together on day 1? That seemed a bit wild to me, cause I wouldn't think there's much point, but I can't say it doesn't happen among more hardcore players, I suppose.
I'll have to take another read tomorrow when I'm better rested, and perhaps with some kind of dictionary. I doubt AI is referring to artificial intelligence lol
Honestly if they had just said they thought it looked partnery it would be fine. But wolves rigidly conform to the words they say which has outted, in my humble opinion, both Ori and Sugar.
What happens most of the time is wolves just interact with each other without thinking because if you try to force yourself not to interact with your partner it just create pretty noticeable discrepancies between the slots.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:42:23 AM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:47:03 AM
You are dodging the question, you said Loona/bellepy/ex were sus
What are you basing these reads on if not effort?
It's literally in the post? I'm not scumreading that they've got few posts (or I'd also have to scumread the zero-posters), I'm pointing out that they've come to the thread just to show they're here and without doing anything relevant.
There's a very good chance one of them is a wolf who wants to avoid being scumread for zero-posting but without knowing which stance to take yet on what's going on. And mind you I said 1/3, it's not like I'm saying all of them have to be wolves.
We're currently in a state where half the players don't have readable content yet.
The second sentence isn't any accurate take on how I play, I just got pretty busy after I entered the thread which led me to say a few lines and then vanish. I have no words for the others, but it is safer to just not post at all until you have the time to properly enter the thread if a slot is worried about that. Slots could be mafia excluding me but that reason alone isn't enough for me to think one of those slots has to be mafia.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:48:23 AM
Let me rephrase why you sound disingenuous to me.Hmm? I think I like Rem alot after this post. Specifically in regards to point 1 and point 2.
Your post could be considered a summary of what i've been saying
Point 1. Red projekt and oricorio not w/w (did you forget you agreed with me when you posted your apology?)
Point 2. The people who posted and dissapeared instantly go below null because that's just standard
Point 3. Agreeing with Abigail's remarks
You remark that you have experience in your point for winter so if you are trying to figure out my alignment why did you put me in null if our views are similar/you agree with them?
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:50:53 AM
Ok giving red a town lean after this post. I still have no read before day 4 to see why I believe it was rem that thinks red may be town but this call out and how it's worded makes me atleast suggest that the 2 might not be aligned.I agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksFirstly you can't feel me itching to sus Ori because I do sus Ori. That should be very clear from my posts so far. I Am not remotely wolfy and am as about as far from TWTBAW as you can get. I Would like to see you try to explain how I'm TWTBAW purely for this one comment when otherwise you townread me. Also wondering how you consider this to have a TWTBAW "vibe" while sussing it. I Would imagine the "vibe" you get would be close to your actual beliefs. You could say that you have a confident logical reason for wolfreading me that causes you to ignore your viberead but you don't seem to have confidence in your read on me, only a FoS.Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Not sure why this setup would make you sweat buckets BTW.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:51:32 AM
Is the btw your wolf to who you voted, or the person you quoted which is Rem???Sadly this does give Abigail partner equityI Would lean towards Sugar's second post being genuine if they are a wolf.
And i'm not sore, i was waiting for a real answer and you did not deliver
Also Ori is a wolf and is spewing Abi village.
Forgot to vote.
Vote: Sugar Moon
Also BTW you are a wolf too.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:54:09 AM
I liked the bit about the hard claim vt bit, but then I got to the end of your post. The scumread because they are mad about a play from a different game is such a weird thing to bring up in the moment, because why was that even mentioned in the first place? I like an answer to this when you get a chance.I hate everything being AI nowadaysEverything is AI, as whenever you make a post in mafia you will inevitably be subconsciously aware of your own alignment which will be reflected in your posts. It's never to early to start solving.Why?No, but Sugar Moon might beAre you my wolfbud? </3TMI Abi town!Vote: Projekt Red
Sugar an alignment!
Townreading a player out of nowhere is a common wolf pocketing strategyThis interaction feels yuckyTMI Abi town!You're so good at werewolf!
Sugar an alignment!
You're being way too serious for right at SoD, relax
Red was joking
I was joking back
there's nothing AI there
me and my homies hate chatgptI don't know how to tell u this butFor town it should be obvious I'm hard putting myself in towncore and hopefully will remain thereFeels way to easy as a claim. At best, you're helping wolves narrow down who the PRs are. Your other posts are fine though.Why is it lame?I hard claim vanilla town.Lame
Also, can the dinging stop already? I admit the deed!—tear up the planks! here, here!—It is the dinging of this hideous website!
as a wolf my action makes no sense day 1 since seer exists
now, am I vanilla?
that's for wolves to figure out
since i don't trust people to think about this line of action I did it myself
claiming vanilla aint doing shit for u
u shouldn't be in anyones towncore just because of that because all wolves wanna claim vanillahe's actually one of the strongest players in this forumsI read the posts again, and I just don't know. It comes off as a bunch of throwing stuff against the wall and seeing if anything sticks, and it's a bit different from the old native Wintreath games where everyone doesn't really do anything cause nobody believes you can get much information on the first day.AI means Alignment Indicative as in
Do wolves plan interactions together on day 1? That seemed a bit wild to me, cause I wouldn't think there's much point, but I can't say it doesn't happen among more hardcore players, I suppose.
I'll have to take another read tomorrow when I'm better rested, and perhaps with some kind of dictionary. I doubt AI is referring to artificial intelligence lol
if someone calls a post or phrase AI is because they think is wolf indicative or town indicative from their point of view
I see, your first phrase is also very newbish mafia, you don't play much do you?
it's just that
the forums is a bit detached from the meta mafia communities and kinda grew into its own thing
which is kinda the point of abbi trying to spice things up by inviting people from other communities hereYou can vote now hoorayhi abbi!
Hi ExI agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksomfl it was 5:45AM I literally only remembered the game right before heading to bedCertainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
if you angleshoot you can actually realize why this is townie
I'm here for real now, currently catching up
it's ok u can say u scumread me because you hate me for my play last game
So far, honestly a bit disappointed with the beginning of D1 because I think all the finger pointing without any votes (even if RVS) is not that useful
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:55:44 AM
Can you walk me through how you got this vibe, because I got the exact opposite.Vote: Projekt RedI agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksFirstly you can't feel me itching to sus Ori because I do sus Ori. That should be very clear from my posts so far. I Am not remotely wolfy and am as about as far from TWTBAW as you can get. I Would like to see you try to explain how I'm TWTBAW purely for this one comment when otherwise you townread me. Also wondering how you consider this to have a TWTBAW "vibe" while sussing it. I Would imagine the "vibe" you get would be close to your actual beliefs. You could say that you have a confident logical reason for wolfreading me that causes you to ignore your viberead but you don't seem to have confidence in your read on me, only a FoS.Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Not sure why this setup would make you sweat buckets BTW.
All I really see here is "people who townread me are town, people who wolfread me are wolves"
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:58:39 AM
Hate how I have to quote these giant posts to respond to small tidbits, but anyway, the whole definition of an RVS is purely random. If there is any reasoning even if its silly then it's not RVS. People that add a reason to an RVS post than to be scummy but it's not always the case.Well, that's one person I have SOME meta on, I guessThe point of RVS is that there is some reason, even if it is a silly reason. Then again I haven't played in Bulba in years so I wouldn't know.What in heavens is TWTBAWOMGUS?In the interest of science can you reread my post until you grasp what I'm saying?Vote: Projekt RedI agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksFirstly you can't feel me itching to sus Ori because I do sus Ori. That should be very clear from my posts so far. I Am not remotely wolfy and am as about as far from TWTBAW as you can get. I Would like to see you try to explain how I'm TWTBAW purely for this one comment when otherwise you townread me. Also wondering how you consider this to have a TWTBAW "vibe" while sussing it. I Would imagine the "vibe" you get would be close to your actual beliefs. You could say that you have a confident logical reason for wolfreading me that causes you to ignore your viberead but you don't seem to have confidence in your read on me, only a FoS.Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Not sure why this setup would make you sweat buckets BTW.
All I really see here is "people who townread me are town, people who wolfread me are wolves"
And how is this OMGUS
They're saying they're finding scummy how some people just hopped in to throw a CWAC saying they're around which is, like, very common among wolf
Which is perfectly fair reasoning but, like, quite NAIThat's a silly question coming from someone that also came from Bulbagarden. Is RVS really that odd to you now?What's with the vote, then?I believe ExLight is the only new one who showed up after I left? They had a post saying they'll catch up, not the most impressive effort, then voting without any elaboration. Why? Also, I am leetic but amn't Snowy....I'm asking because we played together a handful of times in the past few years
Plus I was never too fond of you, I'm fine sitting on you since you squak a lot with pressure.
Why are you even townreading me over a RVS?
Going after a vocal player usually isn't something wolves are wont to do. Still, I don't see how you think applying pressure is wolfy when it's the best way to push a game forward (far, far better than RVS).
Also where the fuck was this OMGUS???
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:01:44 AM
I know a few people in this game, some from experience and others just from watching games.I already explained itI hard claim vanilla town.Man, I wanted to multi-quote a bunch of posts but doesn't function how I want at all. Not sure what the point of this claim is, not only does it risk narrowing the pool for town prs it's also just an easy claim for the mafia to make.
I don't see you as the type of player to claim to take a bullet.
do i know you?
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:02:39 AM
That is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 04:05:47 AM
This is why I explined why i view it as suchThat is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
my definition of te is probably different than most
basicly using any irl excuse for no content that I cannot know if it's true or not is ate for me
but many people will go "oh pooor thing yeah you can go rest take care"
and they are usually lying or exagerating
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:06:07 AM
Had to check if majority is a thing, don't wanna risk any early bs.
Anyways where do you stand with me after you catch on all my new posts. Alot of your stuff just feels forced, I don't recall if you normally throw alot at walls until it sticks. If you do that would change how I view your slot given the seer content of day 1 from you.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 04:06:43 AM
ate or borderline ogiThis is why I explined why i view it as suchThat is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
my definition of te is probably different than most
basicly using any irl excuse for no content that I cannot know if it's true or not is ate for me
but many people will go "oh pooor thing yeah you can go rest take care"
and they are usually lying or exagerating
but I know I'm in the minority with this opinion
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 04:07:18 AM
OMGUS had nothing to do with the post they quoted. Sugar in fact OMGUSed me. It does connect with my treatment of Rem and Ori, Ori I scumread immediately after they scumread me and Rem (who I have experience with, and they with me) I specifically pushed on them placing me at null.
I Think they might be a bet frozen on me though and I'm tired of waiting for them to post again.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:07:57 AM
Rem you don't get to make up your definition for ate, it's a standard thing in the mafia. ATE requires emotion, what bell posted had no emotion attached to it.This is why I explined why i view it as suchThat is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
my definition of te is probably different than most
basicly using any irl excuse for no content that I cannot know if it's true or not is ate for me
but many people will go "oh pooor thing yeah you can go rest take care"
and they are usually lying or exagerating
Also, hmm I don't think I will comment on the last part of this post.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 04:08:46 AM
Rem are you ok.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:10:23 AM
I Was referring to Rem.Who is this towards?
OMGUS had nothing to do with the post they quoted. Sugar in fact OMGUSed me. It does connect with my treatment of Rem and Ori, Ori I scumread immediately after they scumread me and Rem (who I have experience with, and they with me) I specifically pushed on them placing me at null.
I Think they might be a bet frozen on me though and I'm tired of waiting for them to post again.
You should atleast put a name that this is towards.
All three of your slots have been connected through some kind of interaction. Ori was reluctant to scum read you even after you voted then, atleast that's what i remember when catching up to the thread which if thats the case is a good look for the slot.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 04:11:07 AM
Vote: OricorioI've been reading as you post
Had to check if majority is a thing, don't wanna risk any early bs.
Anyways where do you stand with me after you catch on all my new posts. Alot of your stuff just feels forced, I don't recall if you normally throw alot at walls until it sticks. If you do that would change how I view your slot given the seer content of day 1 from you.
if it feels forced idk what to tell you because it's not
maybe what you look s forced is me trying to squezze out what I can from an otherwise pretty dead thread for my standards, as I said there's 6 dead slots in a 12 player game, you kind appered but I would like to know your conclusion
I hve a range of "givingafuck" not a wolf range or town range, or at leas that's how i view my playstyle, this time around I decided to care, ergo why I'm posting more than usual
it is nnoying that i can't assest the pl yet, because of those dead slots
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 04:12:33 AM
for me appeal to emotion means the person said something for the rest of the players to FEEL bad for themRem you don't get to make up your definition for ate, it's a standard thing in the mafia. ATE requires emotion, what bell posted had no emotion attached to it.This is why I explined why i view it as suchThat is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
my definition of te is probably different than most
basicly using any irl excuse for no content that I cannot know if it's true or not is ate for me
but many people will go "oh pooor thing yeah you can go rest take care"
and they are usually lying or exagerating
Also, hmm I don't think I will comment on the last part of this post.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 04:13:05 AM
Um what.I'm perfectly fine, wdym?
Rem are you ok.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:13:10 AM
What? I can't tell if your reading my post wrong or not. The way your reply is worded it feels like you think I called your posts forced but that is not the case if was ori.Vote: OricorioI've been reading as you post
Had to check if majority is a thing, don't wanna risk any early bs.
Anyways where do you stand with me after you catch on all my new posts. Alot of your stuff just feels forced, I don't recall if you normally throw alot at walls until it sticks. If you do that would change how I view your slot given the seer content of day 1 from you.
if it feels forced idk what to tell you because it's not
maybe what you look s forced is me trying to squezze out what I can from an otherwise pretty dead thread for my standards, as I said there's 6 dead slots in a 12 player game, you kind appered but I would like to know your conclusion
I hve a range of "givingafuck" not a wolf range or town range, or at leas that's how i view my playstyle, this time around I decided to care, ergo why I'm posting more than usual
it is nnoying that i can't assest the pl yet, because of those dead slots
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 04:13:36 AM
and like i said it usully annoys the shit out of me.for me appeal to emotion means the person said something for the rest of the players to FEEL bad for themRem you don't get to make up your definition for ate, it's a standard thing in the mafia. ATE requires emotion, what bell posted had no emotion attached to it.This is why I explined why i view it as suchThat is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
my definition of te is probably different than most
basicly using any irl excuse for no content that I cannot know if it's true or not is ate for me
but many people will go "oh pooor thing yeah you can go rest take care"
and they are usually lying or exagerating
Also, hmm I don't think I will comment on the last part of this post.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:14:04 AM
Again not how ate works, but this conversation is pointless. I just won't be voting bell for that reason alone.for me appeal to emotion means the person said something for the rest of the players to FEEL bad for themRem you don't get to make up your definition for ate, it's a standard thing in the mafia. ATE requires emotion, what bell posted had no emotion attached to it.This is why I explined why i view it as suchThat is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
my definition of te is probably different than most
basicly using any irl excuse for no content that I cannot know if it's true or not is ate for me
but many people will go "oh pooor thing yeah you can go rest take care"
and they are usually lying or exagerating
Also, hmm I don't think I will comment on the last part of this post.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 04:14:41 AM
oh i thought you were talking to me nvm thenWhat? I can't tell if your reading my post wrong or not. The way your reply is worded it feels like you think I called your posts forced but that is not the case if was ori.Vote: OricorioI've been reading as you post
Had to check if majority is a thing, don't wanna risk any early bs.
Anyways where do you stand with me after you catch on all my new posts. Alot of your stuff just feels forced, I don't recall if you normally throw alot at walls until it sticks. If you do that would change how I view your slot given the seer content of day 1 from you.
if it feels forced idk what to tell you because it's not
maybe what you look s forced is me trying to squezze out what I can from an otherwise pretty dead thread for my standards, as I said there's 6 dead slots in a 12 player game, you kind appered but I would like to know your conclusion
I hve a range of "givingafuck" not a wolf range or town range, or at leas that's how i view my playstyle, this time around I decided to care, ergo why I'm posting more than usual
it is nnoying that i can't assest the pl yet, because of those dead slots
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 04:16:21 AM
This was responding to you. You should be able to figure it out.I Was referring to Rem.Who is this towards?
OMGUS had nothing to do with the post they quoted. Sugar in fact OMGUSed me. It does connect with my treatment of Rem and Ori, Ori I scumread immediately after they scumread me and Rem (who I have experience with, and they with me) I specifically pushed on them placing me at null.
I Think they might be a bet frozen on me though and I'm tired of waiting for them to post again.
You should atleast put a name that this is towards.
All three of your slots have been connected through some kind of interaction. Ori was reluctant to scum read you even after you voted then, atleast that's what i remember when catching up to the thread which if thats the case is a good look for the slot.
Ori called my opener "planned" in a negative connotation before I tried voting them on page 1. Technically they were first.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 04:16:31 AM
I know, and most mafia players wouldn't eitherAgain not how ate works, but this conversation is pointless. I just won't be voting bell for that reason alone.for me appeal to emotion means the person said something for the rest of the players to FEEL bad for themRem you don't get to make up your definition for ate, it's a standard thing in the mafia. ATE requires emotion, what bell posted had no emotion attached to it.This is why I explined why i view it as suchThat is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
my definition of te is probably different than most
basicly using any irl excuse for no content that I cannot know if it's true or not is ate for me
but many people will go "oh pooor thing yeah you can go rest take care"
and they are usually lying or exagerating
Also, hmm I don't think I will comment on the last part of this post.
you are all softys
anyway, just wanted to make a point, I did not like that they came back to ask me if they really felt bad but eh
Vote: Sugar Moon
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:17:38 AM
oh i thought you were talking to me nvm thenWhat? I can't tell if your reading my post wrong or not. The way your reply is worded it feels like you think I called your posts forced but that is not the case if was ori.Vote: OricorioI've been reading as you post
Had to check if majority is a thing, don't wanna risk any early bs.
Anyways where do you stand with me after you catch on all my new posts. Alot of your stuff just feels forced, I don't recall if you normally throw alot at walls until it sticks. If you do that would change how I view your slot given the seer content of day 1 from you.
if it feels forced idk what to tell you because it's not
maybe what you look s forced is me trying to squezze out what I can from an otherwise pretty dead thread for my standards, as I said there's 6 dead slots in a 12 player game, you kind appered but I would like to know your conclusion
I hve a range of "givingafuck" not a wolf range or town range, or at leas that's how i view my playstyle, this time around I decided to care, ergo why I'm posting more than usual
it is nnoying that i can't assest the pl yet, because of those dead slots
How? I not only voted ori, but I also did not quote you. This interaction feels awkward, not sure what to do about it. I am trying to think how a town makes this mistake since it feels like you might be mafia and you were worried about the fact I called your content forced.
Meh ;)
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 04:19:27 AM
because we were talking in the previous postoh i thought you were talking to me nvm thenWhat? I can't tell if your reading my post wrong or not. The way your reply is worded it feels like you think I called your posts forced but that is not the case if was ori.Vote: OricorioI've been reading as you post
Had to check if majority is a thing, don't wanna risk any early bs.
Anyways where do you stand with me after you catch on all my new posts. Alot of your stuff just feels forced, I don't recall if you normally throw alot at walls until it sticks. If you do that would change how I view your slot given the seer content of day 1 from you.
if it feels forced idk what to tell you because it's not
maybe what you look s forced is me trying to squezze out what I can from an otherwise pretty dead thread for my standards, as I said there's 6 dead slots in a 12 player game, you kind appered but I would like to know your conclusion
I hve a range of "givingafuck" not a wolf range or town range, or at leas that's how i view my playstyle, this time around I decided to care, ergo why I'm posting more than usual
it is nnoying that i can't assest the pl yet, because of those dead slots
How? I not only voted ori, but I also did not quote you. This interaction feels awkward, not sure what to do about it. I am trying to think how a town makes this mistake since it feels like you might be mafia and you were worried about the fact I called your content forced.
Meh ;)
so I associated the question to me
I did say that I ws confused bout your question that I thought was directed to me
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:19:48 AM
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 04:20:57 AM
On the note of who I know, there is 4 names I recognize and or have played with before.who?
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:23:06 AM
Not important, if I wanted people to know who I was I have made the account using my normal name.On the note of who I know, there is 4 names I recognize and or have played with before.who?
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 04:24:31 AM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:27:09 AM
Then why mention you know people here smhCause you asked earlier I knew you, based on how I worded a post.
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 04:32:35 AM
This is utterly pointless, but a "random" vote would be more like "Vote:Loona your avatar looks like a wolf which makes you look suspicious", not "Vote:Loona" with no elaboration because that accomplishes nothing except make you look like an ass. Also, Projekt wolfread me after I had pressured him, a clear case of OMGUS.Hate how I have to quote these giant posts to respond to small tidbits, but anyway, the whole definition of an RVS is purely random. If there is any reasoning even if its silly then it's not RVS. People that add a reason to an RVS post than to be scummy but it's not always the case.Well, that's one person I have SOME meta on, I guessThe point of RVS is that there is some reason, even if it is a silly reason. Then again I haven't played in Bulba in years so I wouldn't know.What in heavens is TWTBAWOMGUS?In the interest of science can you reread my post until you grasp what I'm saying?Vote: Projekt RedI agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksFirstly you can't feel me itching to sus Ori because I do sus Ori. That should be very clear from my posts so far. I Am not remotely wolfy and am as about as far from TWTBAW as you can get. I Would like to see you try to explain how I'm TWTBAW purely for this one comment when otherwise you townread me. Also wondering how you consider this to have a TWTBAW "vibe" while sussing it. I Would imagine the "vibe" you get would be close to your actual beliefs. You could say that you have a confident logical reason for wolfreading me that causes you to ignore your viberead but you don't seem to have confidence in your read on me, only a FoS.Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Not sure why this setup would make you sweat buckets BTW.
All I really see here is "people who townread me are town, people who wolfread me are wolves"
And how is this OMGUS
They're saying they're finding scummy how some people just hopped in to throw a CWAC saying they're around which is, like, very common among wolf
Which is perfectly fair reasoning but, like, quite NAIThat's a silly question coming from someone that also came from Bulbagarden. Is RVS really that odd to you now?What's with the vote, then?I believe ExLight is the only new one who showed up after I left? They had a post saying they'll catch up, not the most impressive effort, then voting without any elaboration. Why? Also, I am leetic but amn't Snowy....I'm asking because we played together a handful of times in the past few years
Plus I was never too fond of you, I'm fine sitting on you since you squak a lot with pressure.
Why are you even townreading me over a RVS?
Going after a vocal player usually isn't something wolves are wont to do. Still, I don't see how you think applying pressure is wolfy when it's the best way to push a game forward (far, far better than RVS).
Also where the fuck was this OMGUS???
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 04:35:16 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 04:47:35 AM
You didn't actually "pressure" me before I pushed you. You only FoSed me for being NAI.I pushed your scummy entrance, which you can call "NAI" all you want but it doesn't matter when it's a common scum move. Come on, just admit that your "suspicion" was a response to mine.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 04:59:12 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 05:05:31 AM
Yeah Ori doesn't seem to know how to respond to this situation. Their PoV hasn't changed from page 2 despite the amount of information available since then.And your read on my slot doesn't seem to have changed either. Your point being?
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 05:08:19 AM
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 05:10:35 AM
I Actually have progressed on and off you in those pages.
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 05:14:28 AM
Actually, this should work better.If making shit up counts as "progression", sure. Also love how you contradict your last post there.
I Actually have progressed on and off you in those pages.
Post by: Wintermoot on January 20, 2024, 06:42:12 AM
npI hosted my first game last year. The whole game only had 90 posts, but I enjoyed the experience...more than playing, to be honest. But this seemed to be an important game for Abigail and Caitlin, was designed to be relatively casual, and I feel a bit bad for not being able to persuade more Wintreath people to join...so I figured I'd give it another try.
I see that's fine, I am on the other side a mafia nerd, I'm retiring to hosting mostly tho probably, but I just can't say no to Abigail
how would you resume your process as a town, even if casual, what do you normally do?
Back in the day most of the people who played knew each other (as most of you obviously do), so I would look for things that seemed out of character for them, or for people who tried to drive the game to a particular place for no apparent reason. Then as the game went on and there was more data about who'd been killed as town and wolves, I'd go back and see how that vibed with previous votes and noteworth events. I'd take a lot of notes too, especially for the crazy 500 posts a day games, but I hope it doesn't come to that here.
Upgrade nice but I'm never gonna blame you or the site or trash it when I know what you've done hereI think that's the kindest thing anybody's ever told me as Wintreath leader/admin/mod. <3
That's why I am for Werewolf UI updates if and when you can do them and don't worry too much about how long it takes
The upgrade should at least be more mobile-friendly and internalize a lot of the features we're relying on hacky mods for, such as likes, notifications, and multi-quote. it's just that...well, SMF's default skin sucks, so I have to update that, then incorporate years of customizations and expansions. Werewolf shouldn't be too bad to do...I made it later on when I was a better coder, and most of the code is actually independent of the forum code. It's just more skin-work to get the options on the topic page (vote buttons, etc).
Sorry, I don't often get a chance to talk about my work. ^-^
If I didn't know better I'd think you were a host of MoD based on your ISO this game. What are your actual thoughts on the game?MoD? That one isn't in my dictionary. I assume you mean my posting about the technical aspects of things though...it's what I best know, I suppose, and given the chance I'd start promoting Wintreath in general. We can always use new members and Citizens in our community. ^-^ :P
I feel like most of your posts are accusatory in some way, complete with judgements about how most players entered the game. It does come off as forceful and a bit contrived...I'm not sure that's enough for me to say you're suspicious though (although perhaps you would in my place :P). Your point about pushing a game forward by applying pressure is well-taken, and feels like something Laurentus might have told me once when we were chatting about MU games. Or you could be a wolf that hopes to come off as a townlead (did I use that jargon right?). Either way, you've made yourself a center of attention for the entire round, and I'm not sure it's been to your benefit regardless of your role.
I don't understand the vote on Sugar Moon, although I'm probably just not comprehending...this game is heavy on jargon at times, and even with a dictionary it's a bit hard for me to process. @Rem mentioned his posts being contradictory, but I didn't understand how so. To some extent I wonder if he came under suspicion because he was the first to post his exact thoughts on all the active players. I haven't been able to focus on any theme behind his posts, so I don't have an opinion either way. That being said, I didn't agree at all when he said that starting out without meaningful interaction is suspicious. I can totally understand people wanting to start getting their posts in if they're busy and haven't had a chance to go over everything yet, especially when there's very little in the way of concrete facts. Not enough to cast any sort of judgement, just a disagreement.
That being said, if that behaviour continued for multiple rounds I might be more open to that argument.
It's completely irrelevant to the game, but I'm left wondering if Projekt Red is a furry (it's the "wuf wuf awooo", lol). That's not meant in a bad way, as Wintreath has an active furry community. More relevantly, I don't agree with the reasoning behind Oricorio's vote on them. Unless I missed something, Sugar Moon didn't wolfread them and went so far as to say not w/w (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174498#msg174498). I don't get the idea of TWTBAW, but I gather getthing that vibe doesn't mean someone's a wolf. Anyone feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood any part of this.
Rem has come across to me as helpful, though I might be putting too much emotion into our non-game interactions on here last night. I didn't like the suspicion on Bellepi for saying that their claiming to be sick is a cause for suspicion...that seemed super-cynical, to the point of being jarring enough to write about it here. I don't know how the game is played on other websites, but if someone claims to be sick I'll take them at their word...if that makes me naive, well, I've been accused of such for far more serious things lol. Still, Projekt Red claims to have experience reading Rem in their vote, and that's probably more relevant than my enjoying some non-game centered conversation with him last night.
i caught some sort of illness and have been sleeping all the time/feeling awful so i havent really been focusing on the game as of late, i should get over it by next Day Phase cause i saw a doctor and got meds todayDamn, I hope you feel better soon. :(
but ill try my best to put together thoughts before EoD today
I think the most powerful phase is day 1, since it has a tendency to be the most active and like you mentioned stuff is just thrown against the wall.That's the exact opposite of the thinking behind most traditional Wintreath games, where most people use a No Vote option because they don't want to accidentally vote off a townie and get the game off to a bad start. They reason that it's better for wolves to vote someone off because at least there's hard data to go on during the next day. Your point is well-taken though...this first day has certainly seen some dramatic moments lol.
Assume AI stuff was answered but if not it just means alignment indictive.
What happens most of the time is wolves just interact with each other without thinking because if you try to force yourself not to interact with your partner it just create pretty noticeable discrepancies between the slots.
That makes sense too...wolves would want to interact normally. It was just hard to see wolves pre-planning interactions around each other on the first day, and the consensus seems to be that that's not really a thing.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:28:06 AM
let me see if i can organize my opinion on sugar
Sugar comes to the thread and says:
-I agree with: red and oricorio not w/w. (I said i thought their interaction was not w/w)
-Abi town lean because I'm agreeing with her posts more than Rem's (Ok i asked which posts? never got an answer, I wanted an answer because I agreed with Abigail too in some points)
-I refuse to read rem's effort so null (ok why? you are reading abi towny because effort, so why not me? i ask if this is somehow a meta read because they know me. No response. I have said many times that amount of effort is not Alignment indicative for me so I'm curious)
-Then sugar puts the rest in sus because they did the bare minimum (ok now the effort thing to me sounds more personal, why not townread or engage with my points if you want to find my alignment?)
() stuff are my thoughts and as you can see it just feels fabricated, and maybe they know me but don't want me to know? or wolf partner knows me and sugar read that in their chat? not very likely tbh I think they know me and slipped with missmatched reasons to read the people he did
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:32:08 AM
example: 6 players 4 town 2 mafia is mylo since if we vote wrong mafia wins next day
you sleep and it goes down to 3 town 2 mafia after the night kill
making it generally easier for town to find the wolves
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 07:32:56 AM
Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.
And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:34:00 AM
I'm not a furry unfortunately.I'm not
Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.
And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 07:36:59 AM
You're pointing out that they treated you specifically weird which was something I noticed awhile back. Them specifically aligning their thoughts with yours but not pocketing you was what I noticed actually but yeah.I'm not a furry unfortunately.I'm not
Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.
And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:37:13 AM
Sugar
abigail if sugar flips red
loona(?)
1-2 in bellepi/master/Rondo/Grace for poe tomorrow
I don't think it's winter
I don't think it's red
I don't think it's Oricorio
I recon this is not great but Rondo(0) Grace(0) master(whatever) bellepi(2)
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:37:56 AM
and i would point that if he was my partner because.....?You're pointing out that they treated you specifically weird which was something I noticed awhile back. Them specifically aligning their thoughts with yours but not pocketing you was what I noticed actually but yeah.I'm not a furry unfortunately.I'm not
Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.
And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
I'm no wolf amateur
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 07:40:32 AM
You didn't exactly.and i would point that if he was my partner because.....?You're pointing out that they treated you specifically weird which was something I noticed awhile back. Them specifically aligning their thoughts with yours but not pocketing you was what I noticed actually but yeah.I'm not a furry unfortunately.I'm not
Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.
And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
I'm no wolf amateur
But you do bus when you feel the need.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:44:00 AM
do you think I would feel threatened by this thread state?You didn't exactly.and i would point that if he was my partner because.....?You're pointing out that they treated you specifically weird which was something I noticed awhile back. Them specifically aligning their thoughts with yours but not pocketing you was what I noticed actually but yeah.I'm not a furry unfortunately.I'm not
Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.
And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
I'm no wolf amateur
But you do bus when you feel the need.
I would laugh my ass off and afk I would have 5 potato sack slots to hide behind
and intead of helping the loudest town you want to kill me
which is the most phoenix thing to do
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 07:58:12 AM
Also I am the loudest town since I can't remember Abi doing much.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:59:53 AM
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 08:01:14 AM
Post by: Bellepi on January 20, 2024, 08:10:07 AM
1. Princess Abigail
nothing really stands out to me as a big contribution here dunno if i was just reading too fast or what, activity seemed to dip after the beginning of the thread
2. Wintermoot
decent contributions although mostly off topic
3. Sugar Moon
sugar seems like their home culture for mafia is def different than oricorio and i think we have similar backgrounds in mafia.
light townread for good contributions at start of page 8 although i disagree with their townread on Wintermoot for being comfortable, saying that if they were inexperienced wolf in this setup they’d be sweating buckets. Wintermoot seems plenty experienced and I didn’t see them alluding anywhere to where they might not be experienced as wolf, they said they had been in a lot of games in the old days. I could see w/w sugar and winter but i still lightly townread sugar. it could be a genuine feeling re: the sweating buckets thing esp considering the mafia culture they seem to have.
4. Projekt Red
planning a jokey start of thread fakeclaim isnt AI where im from but red is just making no sense to me in a lot of places. dont get why they scumread ori so hard, doesnt seem like theyre great at explaining reasoning (maybe im just missing stuff idk), seems scattered motivations, dont like how they respond to pressure. highest suspicion for right now definitely.
5. Rem
not loving the hard claiming vanilla town this early in the game, i dont really understand it as a play, if you were vanilla why not keep it vague and tempt their seer into investigating you based on strong gameplay (which you do seem to be good at, or at the least, you seem motivated). idk if this is some sort of wifom? to get them to check you to see if you’re bluffing? would claiming vanilla be more or less likely to get wolves to investigate you out of people who havent claimed. then again are we reading this as a weird play but from town or an obfuscating play from wolf. rem does go on to reference all of this as perhaps an “ultimate wifom as a wolf.” forgive me for not making a huge multiquote.
Didnt like the interactions between rem and sugar on page 8, seems like some intentional misunderstanding on rem’s part and portraying stuff as contradictions when really i didnt see them as contradicting anything. Willing to believe that it was real though.
also willing to believe that annoyance at me for saying im sick was genuine as cynical as it does come off. easy to pounce on though. and if you don’t know whether or not its the truth then it shouldnt be alignment indicative since it could go either way IMO. i dont come from a forum where ATE is like talked about as a thing, ppl are much more understanding when people say that personal shit has come up in the way of participating in-thread. sure maybe its more casual or whatever but thats just my home culture.
i dont agree with their logic on scumreading sugar i think theyre a bit tunnelled. sugar wasnt reading abi towny because effort per se, more like, agreeing with them more, is how i understood it, and i took “not townreading effort” to mean “im not gonna take the highest-posting player as default town because anyone can do that” i didnt see sugar reading abi as town bc effort, more like bc opinions. it just seems intentionally misconstrued. regardless im willing to see this as tunnel i dont have a strong scumlean on rem rn.
6. Oricorio
seems earnest but might just play like that regardless of alignment. regardless i townread for now, not interested in flipping at the moment, good lines of questioning
7. RondoDimBuckle
n/a
8. Grace
n/a
9. ExLight
not loving the coming in, not really saying much, then voting ori without any real reasoning other than saying ori is a strong player. although ori said later that move is quite bold for a wolf so thats something to think about. but something about calling it rva undermines that/gives an excuse for the “boldness” while going for a strong player. but the reasoning makes more sense as that conversation goes on.
10. Bellepi
after the game is over im just gonna say yeah im actually sick. (or ill die and flip v and yall will see it just the same.) meds are starting to kick in though.
11. Master Radishes
is just acting like a meme for now
12. Loona
likes rem yet disagrees with them openly about the ATE stuff about me - i dont want to get like, pocketed, but i dont have terrible vibes from their contributions thus far
So right now Vote: Projekt Red
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 08:10:58 AM
We can thunderdome if you'd like.Bite me.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 08:15:46 AM
don't take it personal like i said I see someone saying "oh forgive me I'm having this xyz thing in my life right now but I will come tomorrow or when I feel like it"
I just vote them you know why? cuz more often than not they are fucking lying or exagerating
cuz why should I care? this is the game. If you are useless you are better of dead
but that's just my opinion, and it's been my opinion for years
arguably you can also call me a cold blooded bitch and you would be right and it's your right to do so
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 08:17:55 AM
Post by: Bellepi on January 20, 2024, 08:18:16 AM
@Bellepiaight ill just take it as different playstyles and won't worry about it
don't take it personal like i said I see someone saying "oh forgive me I'm having this xyz thing in my life right now but I will come tomorrow or when I feel like it"
I just vote them you know why? cuz more often than not they are fucking lying or exagerating
cuz why should I care? this is the game. If you are useless you are better of dead
but that's just my opinion, and it's been my opinion for years
arguably you can also call me a cold blooded bitch and you would be right and it's your right to do so
Post by: Bellepi on January 20, 2024, 08:20:34 AM
I'm getting tired of reading people telling me I'm wrong in calling Sugar's post contradictory but not explaining why I'm wrong ngli was trying to explain in my post. i think you're misunderstanding sugar's definition of effort, applying it more broadly than they intended it. you're one of the highest effort players but that doesnt auto clear you, as opposed to some people reading you as town just because youre making the most effort (like ori did a while back) they were townreading other people who aren't highest effort players for other reasons, like agreeing with their reasoning more.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 08:24:57 AM
ok explain like I'm 5 how someone can agree with me, agree with the person I'm agreeing with, call them town, mae a summary of what I sid and then call me null cuz they refuse to read my effort and not have an opinion about me but have me as nullI'm getting tired of reading people telling me I'm wrong in calling Sugar's post contradictory but not explaining why I'm wrong ngli was trying to explain in my post. i think you're misunderstanding sugar's definition of effort, applying it more broadly than they intended it. you're one of the highest effort players but that doesnt auto clear you, as opposed to some people reading you as town just because youre making the most effort (like ori did a while back) they were townreading other people who aren't highest effort players for other reasons, like agreeing with their reasoning more.
and when asked about it they brush it off instead of explaining?
honest question, because I might be tunneled but I'm not unreasonable, but all I read is "you're wrong" ok why am I wrong?
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 08:29:44 AM
and others doing echo chamber impression
Post by: Bellepi on January 20, 2024, 08:37:21 AM
the person that was at the center of this at the beginning was princess abigail right? as far as i can tell she contributed nothing significant at all to the game despite posting often. (am i misunderstanding who the initial person was?) i agree that sugar should come back and explain in more detail the posts they said they were going to fetch. but i was just trying to clear up the effortreading thing that was the only thing that i really saw might have been misunderstood. to me abigail is so insubstantial that it might have just been a vibes read contributing to that, i dont see what was there to be agreed with. and null might just be that the good/bad leans cancel each other out. i might be speculating too much though and giving sugar too much credit.ok explain like I'm 5 how someone can agree with me, agree with the person I'm agreeing with, call them town, mae a summary of what I sid and then call me null cuz they refuse to read my effort and not have an opinion about me but have me as nullI'm getting tired of reading people telling me I'm wrong in calling Sugar's post contradictory but not explaining why I'm wrong ngli was trying to explain in my post. i think you're misunderstanding sugar's definition of effort, applying it more broadly than they intended it. you're one of the highest effort players but that doesnt auto clear you, as opposed to some people reading you as town just because youre making the most effort (like ori did a while back) they were townreading other people who aren't highest effort players for other reasons, like agreeing with their reasoning more.
and when asked about it they brush it off instead of explaining?
honest question, because I might be tunneled but I'm not unreasonable, but all I read is "you're wrong" ok why am I wrong?
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 08:50:24 AM
We agree on Abigail, it is not really ai for her to vibe and post remarks, (I have fucked around with her until we die as v/v) so I knowthe person that was at the center of this at the beginning was princess abigail right? as far as i can tell she contributed nothing significant at all to the game despite posting often. (am i misunderstanding who the initial person was?) i agree that sugar should come back and explain in more detail the posts they said they were going to fetch. but i was just trying to clear up the effortreading thing that was the only thing that i really saw might have been misunderstood. to me abigail is so insubstantial that it might have just been a vibes read contributing to that, i dont see what was there to be agreed with. and null might just be that the good/bad leans cancel each other out. i might be speculating too much though and giving sugar too much credit.ok explain like I'm 5 how someone can agree with me, agree with the person I'm agreeing with, call them town, mae a summary of what I sid and then call me null cuz they refuse to read my effort and not have an opinion about me but have me as nullI'm getting tired of reading people telling me I'm wrong in calling Sugar's post contradictory but not explaining why I'm wrong ngli was trying to explain in my post. i think you're misunderstanding sugar's definition of effort, applying it more broadly than they intended it. you're one of the highest effort players but that doesnt auto clear you, as opposed to some people reading you as town just because youre making the most effort (like ori did a while back) they were townreading other people who aren't highest effort players for other reasons, like agreeing with their reasoning more.
and when asked about it they brush it off instead of explaining?
honest question, because I might be tunneled but I'm not unreasonable, but all I read is "you're wrong" ok why am I wrong?
and I would expect someone who read abi, agreed with abi and townleaned abi to also townlean or have an opinion on someone who agrees with abi
I also have the sneaky feeling Sugar somehow knows my meta, and if not it is an incredible coincidence, they could have gone, oh Rem it's because I know you/have player with you and I wouldn't be so suspicious of bit but no, nothing, zero.
Post by: Bellepi on January 20, 2024, 08:52:47 AM
what specifically did you agree with abi about? what did sugar agree with her about? (maybe thats the same question youre asking sugar)We agree on Abigail, it is not really ai for her to vibe and post remarks, (I have fucked around with her until we die as v/v) so I knowthe person that was at the center of this at the beginning was princess abigail right? as far as i can tell she contributed nothing significant at all to the game despite posting often. (am i misunderstanding who the initial person was?) i agree that sugar should come back and explain in more detail the posts they said they were going to fetch. but i was just trying to clear up the effortreading thing that was the only thing that i really saw might have been misunderstood. to me abigail is so insubstantial that it might have just been a vibes read contributing to that, i dont see what was there to be agreed with. and null might just be that the good/bad leans cancel each other out. i might be speculating too much though and giving sugar too much credit.ok explain like I'm 5 how someone can agree with me, agree with the person I'm agreeing with, call them town, mae a summary of what I sid and then call me null cuz they refuse to read my effort and not have an opinion about me but have me as nullI'm getting tired of reading people telling me I'm wrong in calling Sugar's post contradictory but not explaining why I'm wrong ngli was trying to explain in my post. i think you're misunderstanding sugar's definition of effort, applying it more broadly than they intended it. you're one of the highest effort players but that doesnt auto clear you, as opposed to some people reading you as town just because youre making the most effort (like ori did a while back) they were townreading other people who aren't highest effort players for other reasons, like agreeing with their reasoning more.
and when asked about it they brush it off instead of explaining?
honest question, because I might be tunneled but I'm not unreasonable, but all I read is "you're wrong" ok why am I wrong?
and I would expect someone who read abi, agreed with abi and townleaned abi to also townlean or have an opinion on someone who agrees with abi
I also have the sneaky feeling Sugar somehow knows my meta, and if not it is an incredible coincidence, they could have gone, oh Rem it's because I know you/have player with you and I wouldn't be so suspicious of bit but no, nothing, zero.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:01:28 AM
you are probably rightMy most confident read so far was you/oricorio not w/wOri is being Ori tbh this is not AI probably
Oricorio is towny for questioning and overall better posting than the rest
Never seen Ori wolf
I think I have only seen Oricorio host
I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:04:55 AM
I said these posts for example
yeah they are prety basic stuff
but at the time there was not much going on:
from the back of my head
-stuff about the site ui
-red/oricorio interaction
-do wolves plan how they are going to interact?
where the topics, Abi didn't say much more than that, which is "yeah i'll go re-read and fetch them" is weird from someone who supposedly just read thread and is making a summary of what they thought
specially when you don't come back after that
Post by: Bellepi on January 20, 2024, 09:14:00 AM
where did my text go? wtf
I said these posts for example
yeah they are prety basic stuff
but at the time there was not much going on:
from the back of my head
-stuff about the site ui
-red/oricorio interaction
-do wolves plan how they are going to interact?
where the topics, Abi didn't say much more than that, which is "yeah i'll go re-read and fetch them" is weird from someone who supposedly just read thread and is making a summary of what they thought
specially when you don't come back after that
site UI stuff is absolutely irrelevant for gameplay, in the first example abi was disagreeing with you and you change your mind to go with her (agreeing that you both dont have a meta on ori wolfing is irrelevant as far as meaningful opinions about the game goes, not irrelevant for info but irrelevant in terms of saying you have similar views as her)you are probably rightMy most confident read so far was you/oricorio not w/wOri is being Ori tbh this is not AI probably
Oricorio is towny for questioning and overall better posting than the rest
Never seen Ori wolf
I think I have only seen Oricorio hostI honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
second example is her expressing an opinion first again and you expressing a similar yet different one - she says she never plans, you say under some circumstances you do, probably youre agreeing that its an unlikely thing to plan though. but key part here to me is you following abi both counts.
abi probably got more credit for these for being the first to express the opinion (especially considering you changing your mind on account of her)
re: not coming back, yes its weird but maybe not AI, i could see IRL getting in the way, i definitely expect interaction with the topic upon thread reentry but it almost seems to me like a wolf would put more effort into being consistent in thread when called on like this
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:18:15 AM
yeah i was agreeing that it was unlikely and a bit silly to think wolves come with a "plan" day 1where did my text go? wtf
I said these posts for example
yeah they are prety basic stuff
but at the time there was not much going on:
from the back of my head
-stuff about the site ui
-red/oricorio interaction
-do wolves plan how they are going to interact?
where the topics, Abi didn't say much more than that, which is "yeah i'll go re-read and fetch them" is weird from someone who supposedly just read thread and is making a summary of what they thought
specially when you don't come back after thatsite UI stuff is absolutely irrelevant for gameplay, in the first example abi was disagreeing with you and you change your mind to go with her (agreeing that you both dont have a meta on ori wolfing is irrelevant as far as meaningful opinions about the game goes, not irrelevant for info but irrelevant in terms of saying you have similar views as her)you are probably rightMy most confident read so far was you/oricorio not w/wOri is being Ori tbh this is not AI probably
Oricorio is towny for questioning and overall better posting than the rest
Never seen Ori wolf
I think I have only seen Oricorio hostI honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
second example is her expressing an opinion first again and you expressing a similar yet different one - she says she never plans, you say under some circumstances you do, probably youre agreeing that its an unlikely thing to plan though. but key part here to me is you following abi both counts.
abi probably got more credit for these for being the first to express the opinion (especially considering you changing your mind on account of her)
re: not coming back, yes its weird but maybe not AI, i could see IRL getting in the way, i definitely expect interaction with the topic upon thread reentry but it almost seems to me like a wolf would put more effort into being consistent in thread when called on like this
also I did say this are basic and not like "wow look at this super important thing we talked" no i just know i agreed with abi on some things and wanted to know why Sugar said what they said, and instead of explaining I got brushed off
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:18:52 AM
Post by: Bellepi on January 20, 2024, 09:24:55 AM
understandable to want to know more on why sugar said the stuff and i get the frustration with being brushed off, probably thats the biggest issue, but to me thats probably just irl stuff for the time being
it just seems overblown to me
yes it might be annoying to rehash for you but this is helping me understand the situation better
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:33:24 AM
Like I said I'm used to by now have at least some sort of notion about the pl
yet it's 13 hours before eod and half the game is afk
maybe my expectations were too high.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:35:57 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 03:02:10 PM
9. ExLightreading interpretation is dead and mafia players killed it
not loving the coming in, not really saying much, then voting ori without any real reasoning other than saying ori is a strong player. although ori said later that move is quite bold for a wolf so thats something to think about. but something about calling it rva undermines that/gives an excuse for the “boldness” while going for a strong player. but the reasoning makes more sense as that conversation goes on.
where did I say he's a strong player? don't put words in my mouth
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 03:05:58 PM
Vote: Loona
You threw a lot of jabs at Oricorio while parroting some of the stuff I said without acknowledging it.
In the end I don't really see a case on your end and it feels opportunistic since Oricorio shouldn't be a priority lynch here.
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 03:07:12 PM
@Remif he scumread you in every game wouldn't that be NAI? what's the reason you're sussing his slot again?But I've never been terrible at reading you. The worst I've done is give up my correct read for paranoia or sanity.You have scum read me in every single game we play together over more obvious bad slots
And is not going to do you any good if you are town this game
Can you
like
not ignore this message please, it helps me with reading Red which seems to be an important slot today
Post by: Grace on January 20, 2024, 03:16:54 PM
What am I doing here? No idea!
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:31:12 PM
I don't believe that, if you place a reason even if its silly theres some slight intention you wanted to vote that person. Atleast thats my belief.This is utterly pointless, but a "random" vote would be more like "Vote:Loona your avatar looks like a wolf which makes you look suspicious", not "Vote:Loona" with no elaboration because that accomplishes nothing except make you look like an ass. Also, Projekt wolfread me after I had pressured him, a clear case of OMGUS.Hate how I have to quote these giant posts to respond to small tidbits, but anyway, the whole definition of an RVS is purely random. If there is any reasoning even if its silly then it's not RVS. People that add a reason to an RVS post than to be scummy but it's not always the case.Well, that's one person I have SOME meta on, I guessThe point of RVS is that there is some reason, even if it is a silly reason. Then again I haven't played in Bulba in years so I wouldn't know.What in heavens is TWTBAWOMGUS?In the interest of science can you reread my post until you grasp what I'm saying?Vote: Projekt RedI agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinksFirstly you can't feel me itching to sus Ori because I do sus Ori. That should be very clear from my posts so far. I Am not remotely wolfy and am as about as far from TWTBAW as you can get. I Would like to see you try to explain how I'm TWTBAW purely for this one comment when otherwise you townread me. Also wondering how you consider this to have a TWTBAW "vibe" while sussing it. I Would imagine the "vibe" you get would be close to your actual beliefs. You could say that you have a confident logical reason for wolfreading me that causes you to ignore your viberead but you don't seem to have confidence in your read on me, only a FoS.Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
Not sure why this setup would make you sweat buckets BTW.
All I really see here is "people who townread me are town, people who wolfread me are wolves"
And how is this OMGUS
They're saying they're finding scummy how some people just hopped in to throw a CWAC saying they're around which is, like, very common among wolf
Which is perfectly fair reasoning but, like, quite NAIThat's a silly question coming from someone that also came from Bulbagarden. Is RVS really that odd to you now?What's with the vote, then?I believe ExLight is the only new one who showed up after I left? They had a post saying they'll catch up, not the most impressive effort, then voting without any elaboration. Why? Also, I am leetic but amn't Snowy....I'm asking because we played together a handful of times in the past few years
Plus I was never too fond of you, I'm fine sitting on you since you squak a lot with pressure.
Why are you even townreading me over a RVS?
Going after a vocal player usually isn't something wolves are wont to do. Still, I don't see how you think applying pressure is wolfy when it's the best way to push a game forward (far, far better than RVS).
Also where the fuck was this OMGUS???
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:32:26 PM
Yeah Ori doesn't seem to know how to respond to this situation. Their PoV hasn't changed from page 2 despite the amount of information available since then.This is a stretch they made like 1 post on the situation, how did you come to this conclusion?
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:34:58 PM
I think the most powerful phase is day 1, since it has a tendency to be the most active and like you mentioned stuff is just thrown against the wall.That's the exact opposite of the thinking behind most traditional Wintreath games, where most people use a No Vote option because they don't want to accidentally vote off a townie and get the game off to a bad start. They reason that it's better for wolves to vote someone off because at least there's hard data to go on during the next day. Your point is well-taken though...this first day has certainly seen some dramatic moments lol.
Assume AI stuff was answered but if not it just means alignment indictive.
What happens most of the time is wolves just interact with each other without thinking because if you try to force yourself not to interact with your partner it just create pretty noticeable discrepancies between the slots.
That makes sense too...wolves would want to interact normally. It was just hard to see wolves pre-planning interactions around each other on the first day, and the consensus seems to be that that's not really a thing.
No voting on day 1 in a game where town have no real extra information is insane because day 2 would just be day 1 all over again just with a dead body.
Wolves can try to avoid it but like I said it comes to light eventuyally.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:36:00 PM
about the "no vote" it's generaly agreed that not yeeting is just giving control to scum, only way you see "sleep" or "no vote" currently is if you are in mylo so you force the mafia to kill 1 more person, making the pool of possible mafias smallerOk cool rem gets it atleast
example: 6 players 4 town 2 mafia is mylo since if we vote wrong mafia wins next day
you sleep and it goes down to 3 town 2 mafia after the night kill
making it generally easier for town to find the wolves
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:38:11 PM
There is a difference between bussing and being the person to make the case on your own partner. If those two are aligned it doesn't feel like a buss since rem has been the main voice pushing for sugar.You didn't exactly.and i would point that if he was my partner because.....?You're pointing out that they treated you specifically weird which was something I noticed awhile back. Them specifically aligning their thoughts with yours but not pocketing you was what I noticed actually but yeah.I'm not a furry unfortunately.I'm not
Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.
And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
I'm no wolf amateur
But you do bus when you feel the need.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:41:24 PM
ok explain like I'm 5 how someone can agree with me, agree with the person I'm agreeing with, call them town, mae a summary of what I sid and then call me null cuz they refuse to read my effort and not have an opinion about me but have me as nullI'm getting tired of reading people telling me I'm wrong in calling Sugar's post contradictory but not explaining why I'm wrong ngli was trying to explain in my post. i think you're misunderstanding sugar's definition of effort, applying it more broadly than they intended it. you're one of the highest effort players but that doesnt auto clear you, as opposed to some people reading you as town just because youre making the most effort (like ori did a while back) they were townreading other people who aren't highest effort players for other reasons, like agreeing with their reasoning more.
and when asked about it they brush it off instead of explaining?
honest question, because I might be tunneled but I'm not unreasonable, but all I read is "you're wrong" ok why am I wrong?
Based on reactions you do sound unreasonable. I think your being read a null because your a hard nut for them to crack which is what I am seeing, cause otherwise the null read makes no sense.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:44:45 PM
you say youd expect someone townleaning abi to townlean/have opinion on someone agreeing with abi but the agreements are so insubstantial that i dont really see it holding up at allI won't lie but your interactions with rem feel off, not aligned kind of deal. It seems like your trying to egg rem on a little, your post start soft and then get really aggresive towards the slot. Like at first you tried to agree with them and then your mind changed all of a sudden.
understandable to want to know more on why sugar said the stuff and i get the frustration with being brushed off, probably thats the biggest issue, but to me thats probably just irl stuff for the time being
it just seems overblown to me
yes it might be annoying to rehash for you but this is helping me understand the situation better
Is there some kind of progression I am missing. Like where do you stand with rem currently?
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:45:42 PM
Vote: UnvoteWhy shouldnt they be the priority vote? If you say they are one of the biggest voices, I will not buy that.
Vote: Loona
You threw a lot of jabs at Oricorio while parroting some of the stuff I said without acknowledging it.
In the end I don't really see a case on your end and it feels opportunistic since Oricorio shouldn't be a priority lynch here.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 03:47:38 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 03:52:56 PM
Little do you knoware you forgetting that the R in RVS stands for RandomPeople use "random" for tons of things that aren't random (e.g. "I talked to this random guy today!") It's not like people pull names from a hat and then vote for them. In fact, doing that would be wolfy since you're not committing to any sort of thought process
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 03:53:30 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/ucQ9yWNANh0AAAAd/kyaru-princess-connect.gif)also good wolves won't give a fuck whether the person is active or notGood wolves prefer to pocket active players, not go after them which can easily backfire. Especially in a game with as many slankers as this one.
ime if anything wolves WILL prefer to go after active players because most wolves are lame and prefer to win by nuking the active players and leaving inactive or out of the loop players in the endgame to ensure an easy win
so that logic is just
not great?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 03:54:14 PM
And yet I've made my career on pocketing peopleI'm so confused by your exampleare you forgetting that the R in RVS stands for RandomPeople use "random" for tons of things that aren't random (e.g. "I talked to this random guy today!") It's not like people pull names from a hat and then vote for them. In fact, doing that would be wolfy since you're not committing to any sort of thought process.
but yea people do in fact pull names out a hat during the RVS, that's kinda the whole point
vote random, see who overreacts (or lacks reaction), and then you have a brief foundation on what's worth poking or notpocketing is a bad wolf play and kinda only works on newbies??also good wolves won't give a fuck whether the person is active or notGood wolves prefer to pocket active players, not go after them which can easily backfire. Especially in a game with as many slankers as this one.
ime if anything wolves WILL prefer to go after active players because most wolves are lame and prefer to win by nuking the active players and leaving inactive or out of the loop players in the endgame to ensure an easy win
so that logic is just
not great?
good mafia players will realize the possibility of being pocketed and will actually start getting paranoid of the people doing so
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 03:56:31 PM
I have yet to play on any site that doesn't do rvs lolIf there's no case on someone, what is there to react to? Why bot do pressuring, which actually generates reactions? RVS fucking sucks and there's a reason that good werewolf sites don't do itI'm so confused by your exampleare you forgetting that the R in RVS stands for RandomPeople use "random" for tons of things that aren't random (e.g. "I talked to this random guy today!") It's not like people pull names from a hat and then vote for them. In fact, doing that would be wolfy since you're not committing to any sort of thought process.
but yea people do in fact pull names out a hat during the RVS, that's kinda the whole point
vote random, see who overreacts (or lacks reaction), and then you have a brief foundation on what's worth poking or notpocketing is a bad wolf play and kinda only works on newbies??also good wolves won't give a fuck whether the person is active or notGood wolves prefer to pocket active players, not go after them which can easily backfire. Especially in a game with as many slankers as this one.
ime if anything wolves WILL prefer to go after active players because most wolves are lame and prefer to win by nuking the active players and leaving inactive or out of the loop players in the endgame to ensure an easy win
so that logic is just
not great?
good mafia players will realize the possibility of being pocketed and will actually start getting paranoid of the people doing so
Also, if you think you can't get pocketed, you are probably one of the players most vulnerable to being pocketed
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 03:58:44 PM
Just skimming along (too cool to read properly) and everyone's commenting on the forum being archaic or whatever, and I'm like...this is as good or better as the forums I've played Mafia on. :))Thank you uwu
Post by: Wintermoot on January 20, 2024, 04:00:47 PM
I suppose it makes sense...maybe because most of us who played were friends we didn't want to accuse people without having something to go on first. I just remember day 1 always being awkward with not many posts because of it.
@Wintermoot
let me see if i can organize my opinion on sugar
Sugar comes to the thread and says:
-I agree with: red and oricorio not w/w. (I said i thought their interaction was not w/w)
-Abi town lean because I'm agreeing with her posts more than Rem's (Ok i asked which posts? never got an answer, I wanted an answer because I agreed with Abigail too in some points)
-I refuse to read rem's effort so null (ok why? you are reading abi towny because effort, so why not me? i ask if this is somehow a meta read because they know me. No response. I have said many times that amount of effort is not Alignment indicative for me so I'm curious)
-Then sugar puts the rest in sus because they did the bare minimum (ok now the effort thing to me sounds more personal, why not townread or engage with my points if you want to find my alignment?)
() stuff are my thoughts and as you can see it just feels fabricated, and maybe they know me but don't want me to know? or wolf partner knows me and sugar read that in their chat? not very likely tbh I think they know me and slipped with missmatched reasons to read the people he did
Thanks for elaborating, so basically it's that Sugar Moon wouldn't try to read you while reading far less active people + Abbi and then didn't answer some of your additional questions. Understanding that there isn't much to go on with the first day, I agree with Bellepi that it'd be most helpful if @Sugar Moon would clarify why he specifically null read you despite your outstanding effort...if it's something related to your playstyle or a feeling or something you posted. But at least I better understand where you're coming from.
3. Sugar MoonTo clarify, I've played Werewolf here on Wintreath before and get the mechanics of it just fine...what I'm not so experienced at is this more hardcore style of Werewolf/Mafia with hundreds of posts a day, more analysis of little things people do and say, and so much jargon lol. Our games were a lot more casual, and that is where most of my experience is. I have to admit though, I'm not sure myself why I'd be sweating buckets either way, as the game setup was designed to be more casual anyways.
sugar seems like their home culture for mafia is def different than oricorio and i think we have similar backgrounds in mafia.
light townread for good contributions at start of page 8 although i disagree with their townread on Wintermoot for being comfortable, saying that if they were inexperienced wolf in this setup they’d be sweating buckets. Wintermoot seems plenty experienced and I didn’t see them alluding anywhere to where they might not be experienced as wolf, they said they had been in a lot of games in the old days. I could see w/w sugar and winter but i still lightly townread sugar. it could be a genuine feeling re: the sweating buckets thing esp considering the mafia culture they seem to have.
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 04:06:18 PM
How did we become friends I'm like the ATE goddessand like i said it usully annoys the shit out of me.for me appeal to emotion means the person said something for the rest of the players to FEEL bad for themRem you don't get to make up your definition for ate, it's a standard thing in the mafia. ATE requires emotion, what bell posted had no emotion attached to it.This is why I explined why i view it as suchThat is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
my definition of te is probably different than most
basicly using any irl excuse for no content that I cannot know if it's true or not is ate for me
but many people will go "oh pooor thing yeah you can go rest take care"
and they are usually lying or exagerating
Also, hmm I don't think I will comment on the last part of this post.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:07:14 PM
not something to be proud of lol, seeing as how its either frowned upon or a punishable offenseHow did we become friends I'm like the ATE goddessand like i said it usully annoys the shit out of me.for me appeal to emotion means the person said something for the rest of the players to FEEL bad for themRem you don't get to make up your definition for ate, it's a standard thing in the mafia. ATE requires emotion, what bell posted had no emotion attached to it.This is why I explined why i view it as suchThat is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
my definition of te is probably different than most
basicly using any irl excuse for no content that I cannot know if it's true or not is ate for me
but many people will go "oh pooor thing yeah you can go rest take care"
and they are usually lying or exagerating
Also, hmm I don't think I will comment on the last part of this post.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:09:49 PM
Day one starts now!!! It ends in 48 hours!can we get an updated vote count?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 04:11:41 PM
I have read through all 200+ posts (in some cases again) and found a Werewolf Terminology list (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=6436.0), so let's do this!<3npI hosted my first game last year. The whole game only had 90 posts, but I enjoyed the experience...more than playing, to be honest. But this seemed to be an important game for Abigail and Caitlin, was designed to be relatively casual, and I feel a bit bad for not being able to persuade more Wintreath people to join...so I figured I'd give it another try.
I see that's fine, I am on the other side a mafia nerd, I'm retiring to hosting mostly tho probably, but I just can't say no to Abigail
how would you resume your process as a town, even if casual, what do you normally do?
Back in the day most of the people who played knew each other (as most of you obviously do), so I would look for things that seemed out of character for them, or for people who tried to drive the game to a particular place for no apparent reason. Then as the game went on and there was more data about who'd been killed as town and wolves, I'd go back and see how that vibed with previous votes and noteworth events. I'd take a lot of notes too, especially for the crazy 500 posts a day games, but I hope it doesn't come to that here.Upgrade nice but I'm never gonna blame you or the site or trash it when I know what you've done hereI think that's the kindest thing anybody's ever told me as Wintreath leader/admin/mod. <3
That's why I am for Werewolf UI updates if and when you can do them and don't worry too much about how long it takes
The upgrade should at least be more mobile-friendly and internalize a lot of the features we're relying on hacky mods for, such as likes, notifications, and multi-quote. it's just that...well, SMF's default skin sucks, so I have to update that, then incorporate years of customizations and expansions. Werewolf shouldn't be too bad to do...I made it later on when I was a better coder, and most of the code is actually independent of the forum code. It's just more skin-work to get the options on the topic page (vote buttons, etc).
Sorry, I don't often get a chance to talk about my work. ^-^If I didn't know better I'd think you were a host of MoD based on your ISO this game. What are your actual thoughts on the game?MoD? That one isn't in my dictionary. I assume you mean my posting about the technical aspects of things though...it's what I best know, I suppose, and given the chance I'd start promoting Wintreath in general. We can always use new members and Citizens in our community. ^-^ :P
I feel like most of your posts are accusatory in some way, complete with judgements about how most players entered the game. It does come off as forceful and a bit contrived...I'm not sure that's enough for me to say you're suspicious though (although perhaps you would in my place :P). Your point about pushing a game forward by applying pressure is well-taken, and feels like something Laurentus might have told me once when we were chatting about MU games. Or you could be a wolf that hopes to come off as a townlead (did I use that jargon right?). Either way, you've made yourself a center of attention for the entire round, and I'm not sure it's been to your benefit regardless of your role.
I don't understand the vote on Sugar Moon, although I'm probably just not comprehending...this game is heavy on jargon at times, and even with a dictionary it's a bit hard for me to process. @Rem mentioned his posts being contradictory, but I didn't understand how so. To some extent I wonder if he came under suspicion because he was the first to post his exact thoughts on all the active players. I haven't been able to focus on any theme behind his posts, so I don't have an opinion either way. That being said, I didn't agree at all when he said that starting out without meaningful interaction is suspicious. I can totally understand people wanting to start getting their posts in if they're busy and haven't had a chance to go over everything yet, especially when there's very little in the way of concrete facts. Not enough to cast any sort of judgement, just a disagreement.
That being said, if that behaviour continued for multiple rounds I might be more open to that argument.
It's completely irrelevant to the game, but I'm left wondering if Projekt Red is a furry (it's the "wuf wuf awooo", lol). That's not meant in a bad way, as Wintreath has an active furry community. More relevantly, I don't agree with the reasoning behind Oricorio's vote on them. Unless I missed something, Sugar Moon didn't wolfread them and went so far as to say not w/w (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174498#msg174498). I don't get the idea of TWTBAW, but I gather getthing that vibe doesn't mean someone's a wolf. Anyone feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood any part of this.
Rem has come across to me as helpful, though I might be putting too much emotion into our non-game interactions on here last night. I didn't like the suspicion on Bellepi for saying that their claiming to be sick is a cause for suspicion...that seemed super-cynical, to the point of being jarring enough to write about it here. I don't know how the game is played on other websites, but if someone claims to be sick I'll take them at their word...if that makes me naive, well, I've been accused of such for far more serious things lol. Still, Projekt Red claims to have experience reading Rem in their vote, and that's probably more relevant than my enjoying some non-game centered conversation with him last night.i caught some sort of illness and have been sleeping all the time/feeling awful so i havent really been focusing on the game as of late, i should get over it by next Day Phase cause i saw a doctor and got meds todayDamn, I hope you feel better soon. :(
but ill try my best to put together thoughts before EoD todayI think the most powerful phase is day 1, since it has a tendency to be the most active and like you mentioned stuff is just thrown against the wall.That's the exact opposite of the thinking behind most traditional Wintreath games, where most people use a No Vote option because they don't want to accidentally vote off a townie and get the game off to a bad start. They reason that it's better for wolves to vote someone off because at least there's hard data to go on during the next day. Your point is well-taken though...this first day has certainly seen some dramatic moments lol.
Assume AI stuff was answered but if not it just means alignment indictive.
What happens most of the time is wolves just interact with each other without thinking because if you try to force yourself not to interact with your partner it just create pretty noticeable discrepancies between the slots.
That makes sense too...wolves would want to interact normally. It was just hard to see wolves pre-planning interactions around each other on the first day, and the consensus seems to be that that's not really a thing.
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 04:12:08 PM
Click votes on the ui at the top of the pageDay one starts now!!! It ends in 48 hours!can we get an updated vote count?
Post by: Grace on January 20, 2024, 04:13:29 PM
Can we like not
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 04:17:18 PM
I have appeared!Town
What am I doing here? No idea!
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 04:18:50 PM
I've never been banned.not something to be proud of lol, seeing as how its either frowned upon or a punishable offenseHow did we become friends I'm like the ATE goddessand like i said it usully annoys the shit out of me.for me appeal to emotion means the person said something for the rest of the players to FEEL bad for themRem you don't get to make up your definition for ate, it's a standard thing in the mafia. ATE requires emotion, what bell posted had no emotion attached to it.This is why I explined why i view it as suchThat is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
my definition of te is probably different than most
basicly using any irl excuse for no content that I cannot know if it's true or not is ate for me
but many people will go "oh pooor thing yeah you can go rest take care"
and they are usually lying or exagerating
Also, hmm I don't think I will comment on the last part of this post.
Warnings sure but zero bans so clearly I do it right
But I'm not proud of it I just know who I am lol
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 04:19:47 PM
These quote chains are insanely long :(Soz
Can we like not
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:20:06 PM
Where?Click votes on the ui at the top of the pageDay one starts now!!! It ends in 48 hours!can we get an updated vote count?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 04:20:15 PM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:20:58 PM
Because a lot of moderators are to lenient, and MU is probably the worst when it comes to lenience.I've never been banned.not something to be proud of lol, seeing as how its either frowned upon or a punishable offenseHow did we become friends I'm like the ATE goddessand like i said it usully annoys the shit out of me.for me appeal to emotion means the person said something for the rest of the players to FEEL bad for themRem you don't get to make up your definition for ate, it's a standard thing in the mafia. ATE requires emotion, what bell posted had no emotion attached to it.This is why I explined why i view it as suchThat is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
my definition of te is probably different than most
basicly using any irl excuse for no content that I cannot know if it's true or not is ate for me
but many people will go "oh pooor thing yeah you can go rest take care"
and they are usually lying or exagerating
Also, hmm I don't think I will comment on the last part of this post.
Warnings sure but zero bans so clearly I do it right
But I'm not proud of it I just know who I am lol
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 04:21:30 PM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:21:38 PM
nvm I found it.Where?Click votes on the ui at the top of the pageDay one starts now!!! It ends in 48 hours!can we get an updated vote count?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 04:23:14 PM
*shrugs* it is what it is I am who I am
Because a lot of moderators are to lenient, and MU is probably the worst when it comes to lenience.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 04:23:39 PM
Why is Red the leading train right now?
Can people give opinions on Bell now that they posted more.
Vote: Sugar Moon Reading back, espically looking at alot of the stuff rem has been saying, Sugar doesn't look so hot.
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 04:23:42 PM
Science
Post by: Wintermoot on January 20, 2024, 05:04:46 PM
Because a lot of moderators are to lenient, and MU is probably the worst when it comes to lenience.Lenient moderators?
Wouldn't know anything about that...
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 05:24:06 PM
No there was enough pressure on Sugar already. There doesn't have to be a huge wagon, Sugar could be difficult to defend, and you wouldn't want to defend them due to the risks.There is a difference between bussing and being the person to make the case on your own partner. If those two are aligned it doesn't feel like a buss since rem has been the main voice pushing for sugar.You didn't exactly.and i would point that if he was my partner because.....?You're pointing out that they treated you specifically weird which was something I noticed awhile back. Them specifically aligning their thoughts with yours but not pocketing you was what I noticed actually but yeah.I'm not a furry unfortunately.I'm not
Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.
And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
I'm no wolf amateur
But you do bus when you feel the need.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 05:28:55 PM
These quote chains are insanely long :(Can you figure out how to remove quotes from inside quotes.
Can we like not
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 05:51:58 PM
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 05:58:01 PM
Ori may or may not be town here. They are triggering pretty much every by-the-book scumtell and I kinda think it's scummy really.
Abi you joked about how did you become friends with Rem if they were annoyed by ATE but do you have actual thoughts about it since that is one point on which I believe they are gaslighting me.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 06:24:15 PM
Why are you so certain its a buss?No there was enough pressure on Sugar already. There doesn't have to be a huge wagon, Sugar could be difficult to defend, and you wouldn't want to defend them due to the risks.There is a difference between bussing and being the person to make the case on your own partner. If those two are aligned it doesn't feel like a buss since rem has been the main voice pushing for sugar.You didn't exactly.and i would point that if he was my partner because.....?You're pointing out that they treated you specifically weird which was something I noticed awhile back. Them specifically aligning their thoughts with yours but not pocketing you was what I noticed actually but yeah.I'm not a furry unfortunately.I'm not
Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.
And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
I'm no wolf amateur
But you do bus when you feel the need.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 06:26:13 PM
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 06:37:52 PM
Why are you so certain its a buss?
Sugar is scummy. Rem is extremely scummy. Rem's push on Sugar is never how you push over a LHF town. Rem initially called out Sugar for much more than they've cased- you can see them claim that Sugar has multiple contradictions but they only point out one of them when they should have pointed out more especially at this moment where they are asking for a sanity check on Sugar.
I Am entertaining Rem being town only due to their ATE.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 06:48:07 PM
If your whole theory is based around sugar being the main red check, and their alignment can solve rem then why arent u voting suygar?Why are you so certain its a buss?
Sugar is scummy. Rem is extremely scummy. Rem's push on Sugar is never how you push over a LHF town. Rem initially called out Sugar for much more than they've cased- you can see them claim that Sugar has multiple contradictions but they only point out one of them when they should have pointed out more especially at this moment where they are asking for a sanity check on Sugar.
I Am entertaining Rem being town only due to their ATE.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 06:50:56 PM
Only reason I am entertaining this is because what if the world your suggesting with Sugar and Rem being red together is in reality you and sugar being red together which is why you want rem gone first. We can just go for sugar next and it really wouldnt harm you in the slightest.If your whole theory is based around sugar being the main red check, and their alignment can solve rem then why arent u voting suygar?Why are you so certain its a buss?
Sugar is scummy. Rem is extremely scummy. Rem's push on Sugar is never how you push over a LHF town. Rem initially called out Sugar for much more than they've cased- you can see them claim that Sugar has multiple contradictions but they only point out one of them when they should have pointed out more especially at this moment where they are asking for a sanity check on Sugar.
I Am entertaining Rem being town only due to their ATE.
This is just a theory tbf, but I think I am always voting sugar here over rem.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 06:55:04 PM
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 06:59:37 PM
Because he is a rem fan obviouslyIf your whole theory is based around sugar being the main red check, and their alignment can solve rem then why arent u voting suygar?Why are you so certain its a buss?
Sugar is scummy. Rem is extremely scummy. Rem's push on Sugar is never how you push over a LHF town. Rem initially called out Sugar for much more than they've cased- you can see them claim that Sugar has multiple contradictions but they only point out one of them when they should have pointed out more especially at this moment where they are asking for a sanity check on Sugar.
I Am entertaining Rem being town only due to their ATE.
To Ex: following pings in this site is near impossible i think i elaborated enough on why Red is being ehem dumb that Loona just explained it
I either vote Red out of spite and maybe catch a wolf
Or vote sugar who oh surprise surprise, hasn't posted yet
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:03:27 PM
I wanna build teams but I can't since theres so many people that aren't active which makes it hard, unless I assume all mafia are active or atleast 2 are with 1 being an inactive.And this is my exact feeling
I hope we they just get [redacted]
Grace is... Something
About Abi, i haven't seen you abuse ate in the way i discribed it maybe i'm delusional, also you don't pretend like you should gain a shield for that
I have seen wolf get angry because they tried to ate and were killed anyway which is ?????
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 07:10:34 PM
If your whole theory is based around sugar being the main red check, and their alignment can solve rem then why arent u voting suygar?I Said I would kill Sugar today I just haven't swapped my vote?
Because he is a rem fan obviouslyYou know I'm not a wolf.
To Ex: following pings in this site is near impossible i think i elaborated enough on why Red is being ehem dumb that Loona just explained it
I either vote Red out of spite and maybe catch a wolf
Or vote sugar who oh surprise surprise, hasn't posted yet
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:11:06 PM
No i don'tIf your whole theory is based around sugar being the main red check, and their alignment can solve rem then why arent u voting suygar?I Said I would kill Sugar today I just haven't swapped my vote?Because he is a rem fan obviouslyYou know I'm not a wolf.
To Ex: following pings in this site is near impossible i think i elaborated enough on why Red is being ehem dumb that Loona just explained it
I either vote Red out of spite and maybe catch a wolf
Or vote sugar who oh surprise surprise, hasn't posted yet
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:15:05 PM
So keeping red at 3 is self defense and shielding in this case i got to admit
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 07:17:11 PM
So Rem why are you playing like this?
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 07:17:48 PM
Also honestly with votes where they are i don't trust i won't be cfd or that oricorio won't be cfd by loona or some afk mafia going 1 for 1 by the end of the day with oricorio at 2 and me at 1You aren't dying today read the room.
So keeping red at 3 is self defense and shielding in this case i got to admit
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:20:23 PM
Yeah I'm not sure what to think about Rem's ATE they've done this once before and it might be clearing, but in my opinion Rem has no reason to play the way they played this game as town. It specifically makes them hard to finger/suspect and makes it even difficult to get paranoid of them in endgame while giving perhaps even more thread control than normal.Because i felt like it, as always i do whatever i want
So Rem why are you playing like this?
And you re forgeting that i paint a big target on my back for the seer here if they think i'm a better target than any of these unreadable slots
Like i said if i was a wolf i have a degree in mood reading and could have easily fluff posted and chill
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:21:06 PM
I do not fucking trust youAlso honestly with votes where they are i don't trust i won't be cfd or that oricorio won't be cfd by loona or some afk mafia going 1 for 1 by the end of the day with oricorio at 2 and me at 1You aren't dying today read the room.
So keeping red at 3 is self defense and shielding in this case i got to admit
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 07:23:07 PM
The seer literally never targets you, Rem.Yeah I'm not sure what to think about Rem's ATE they've done this once before and it might be clearing, but in my opinion Rem has no reason to play the way they played this game as town. It specifically makes them hard to finger/suspect and makes it even difficult to get paranoid of them in endgame while giving perhaps even more thread control than normal.Because i felt like it, as always i do whatever i want
So Rem why are you playing like this?
And you re forgeting that i paint a big target on my back for the seer here if they think i'm a better target than any of these unreadable slots
Like i said if i was a wolf i have a degree in mood reading and could have easily fluff posted and chill
Fluff posting and chilling is minus EV since it let's you get sussed. Like I mentioned.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 07:23:44 PM
This has nothing to do with me. Read the room Rem.I do not fucking trust youAlso honestly with votes where they are i don't trust i won't be cfd or that oricorio won't be cfd by loona or some afk mafia going 1 for 1 by the end of the day with oricorio at 2 and me at 1You aren't dying today read the room.
So keeping red at 3 is self defense and shielding in this case i got to admit
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:32:37 PM
I can't read the roomThis has nothing to do with me. Read the room Rem.I do not fucking trust youAlso honestly with votes where they are i don't trust i won't be cfd or that oricorio won't be cfd by loona or some afk mafia going 1 for 1 by the end of the day with oricorio at 2 and me at 1You aren't dying today read the room.
So keeping red at 3 is self defense and shielding in this case i got to admit
The room is empty
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 07:35:55 PM
Current Votes
Rem: 1 (Projekt Red)
Projekt Red: 3 (Rem, Oricorio, Bellepi)
Oricorio: 2 (ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
Sugar Moon: 1 (Loona)
No Vote (Never Voted): Wintermoot, Sugar Moon, Grace, RondoDimBuckle, Master Radishes
@Wintermoot
@Sugar Moon
@Projekt Red
@Oricorio
@Grace
@RondoDimBuckle
@ExLight
@Bellepi
@Master Radishes
@Loona
@☆ Princess Abigail ☆
3 hours before end of the day
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 08:34:10 PM
I'm pretty sure I unvoted and voted Loona
Vote: Loona
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 08:35:37 PM
what's the case on sugar moon
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 08:38:51 PM
it has upsides and downsides
the downside is that we might not have much to discuss based on who mafia kills
upside is that in setups where town has cop stalling CAN be beneficial by giving more checks before we reach -Lo
I'd personally prefer if we lynched someone today
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 08:42:55 PM
Dont spite voteBecause he is a rem fan obviouslyIf your whole theory is based around sugar being the main red check, and their alignment can solve rem then why arent u voting suygar?Why are you so certain its a buss?
Sugar is scummy. Rem is extremely scummy. Rem's push on Sugar is never how you push over a LHF town. Rem initially called out Sugar for much more than they've cased- you can see them claim that Sugar has multiple contradictions but they only point out one of them when they should have pointed out more especially at this moment where they are asking for a sanity check on Sugar.
I Am entertaining Rem being town only due to their ATE.
To Ex: following pings in this site is near impossible i think i elaborated enough on why Red is being ehem dumb that Loona just explained it
I either vote Red out of spite and maybe catch a wolf
Or vote sugar who oh surprise surprise, hasn't posted yet
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 08:45:10 PM
Yeah I'm not sure what to think about Rem's ATE they've done this once before and it might be clearing, but in my opinion Rem has no reason to play the way they played this game as town. It specifically makes them hard to finger/suspect and makes it even difficult to get paranoid of them in endgame while giving perhaps even more thread control than normal.HUH? Where is there ate.
So Rem why are you playing like this?
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 08:47:09 PM
why is my vote still on Oricorio grumbleWhy am I red here? You mentioned earlier it was because of my push on Ori, but why exactly does that make me red? In a world where you think I am mafia for trying to push the strong player is a world where your wolf with TMI do you realize this?
I'm pretty sure I unvoted and voted Loona
Vote: Loona
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 08:56:20 PM
HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:02:01 PM
also I saw some people mentioning the good old should we no lynch D1 discussionYeah and then the cop dies and you cry
it has upsides and downsides
the downside is that we might not have much to discuss based on who mafia kills
upside is that in setups where town has cop stalling CAN be beneficial by giving more checks before we reach -Lo
I'd personally prefer if we lynched someone today
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:10:50 PM
how is helping steamroll a player that isn't in the thread "doing more today"HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:11:30 PM
wtf i thought a lot more people were voting sugar moon
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 09:12:24 PM
I Wanted to hear from Abi.how is helping steamroll a player that isn't in the thread "doing more today"HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
Rem why are you still voting me when your wolfread is in range hm?
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:12:38 PM
forcing tied wagons always generate interesting and useful interactions
I'll break the tie later if it comes down to it
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:19:41 PM
I repeatI Wanted to hear from Abi.how is helping steamroll a player that isn't in the thread "doing more today"HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
Rem why are you still voting me when your wolfread is in range hm?
I can vote you and probably kill a wolf
Or
Vote sugar moon
Voting an afk or more like someone who posted but didn't really do anything like Grace or radishes is not out of the table
But i doubt there will be activity to try out wagons
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:20:28 PM
Are now voting sugar moon
The duality.
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:27:23 PM
Funny that the 3 mofos who gave me shit for voting sugar moonDear lord, talk about victim complex.
Are now voting sugar moon
The duality.
Where did I give you shit for voting sugar moon? Stop putting words in my mouth.
The only thing I even talked about involving you was asking you about your read on Red twice and you ignored it. So yea.
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:30:05 PM
those were literally the only interactions I had with/ about you
I'm so fucking tired of people putting words in my mouth and failing to do basic reading comprehension
go play checkers instead of a text based game like omfl
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:35:10 PM
I commented about rem talking about ate, never said rem was posting ate???HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:36:29 PM
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:37:18 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:37:32 PM
well they are clearly doing AtE too soI commented about rem talking about ate, never said rem was posting ate???HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:38:47 PM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:39:20 PM
Funny that the 3 mofos who gave me shit for voting sugar moonI do enjoy the fact that your ignoring the whys of this situation and instead just focusing on the fact we are 3 now voting the slot. The why's do matter, its kinda how progression works.
Are now voting sugar moon
The duality.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:39:48 PM
where is the ate? Quote the post for me.well they are clearly doing AtE too soI commented about rem talking about ate, never said rem was posting ate???HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:40:04 PM
Stip piting wirds in mi miithare you always this insufferable
I would not mind a CFD or policy lynch on Rem
If they're scum, good. If they're town they're just gonna undermine the game integrity and be obnoxious and toxic with semantics and with these tauntings.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:40:33 PM
I'm not ignoring the whys? I read your postsFunny that the 3 mofos who gave me shit for voting sugar moonI do enjoy the fact that your ignoring the whys of this situation and instead just focusing on the fact we are 3 now voting the slot. The why's do matter, its kinda how progression works.
Are now voting sugar moon
The duality.
I just find it funny
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:41:29 PM
Pilicy linch the highest poster who is actually getting people to talkStip piting wirds in mi miithare you always this insufferable
I would not mind a CFD or policy lynch on Rem
If they're scum, good. If they're town they're just gonna undermine the game integrity and be obnoxious and toxic with semantics and with these tauntings.
Wow you are good at mafia
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:41:37 PM
Stip piting wirds in mi miithare you always this insufferable
I would not mind a CFD or policy lynch on Rem
If they're scum, good. If they're town they're just gonna undermine the game integrity and be obnoxious and toxic with semantics and with these tauntings.
The term policy lynch will stay out of this game. This is going to turn into some giant fight.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 09:42:06 PM
Oh you're asking this even though you know bc of your argument with Rem.where is the ate? Quote the post for me.well they are clearly doing AtE too soI commented about rem talking about ate, never said rem was posting ate???HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:42:12 PM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:42:15 PM
Ok fair, its just you didnt comment on whys which was fustrating.I'm not ignoring the whys? I read your postsFunny that the 3 mofos who gave me shit for voting sugar moonI do enjoy the fact that your ignoring the whys of this situation and instead just focusing on the fact we are 3 now voting the slot. The why's do matter, its kinda how progression works.
Are now voting sugar moon
The duality.
I just find it funny
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:42:48 PM
I think your definition of ate and mine are different, because I've yet to see any post from anyone that qualifies as ate.Oh you're asking this even though you know bc of your argument with Rem.where is the ate? Quote the post for me.well they are clearly doing AtE too soI commented about rem talking about ate, never said rem was posting ate???HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:44:07 PM
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 09:44:56 PM
^ Hm but weren't you on our side during this argument.That is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:45:21 PM
Now my point that ate is not well defined in general doesn't sound as crazy huhNot really? People just like the throw around the word alot, even in MU it pops up way more than it should.
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:45:48 PM
the sugarmoon post they just madewhere is the ate? Quote the post for me.well they are clearly doing AtE too soI commented about rem talking about ate, never said rem was posting ate???HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
playing the "oh I'm such a victim and everyone is a hypocrite" card is clearly focused on AtE since it uses victimism as their way to get people on their side rather than presenting evidence of that
which is something they know they don't have considering I never even said shit about them voting sugar moon
this is not only AtE but also scummy as fuck since it tries to gaslight the people in the game into siding with them without any proper logical foundation
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:46:12 PM
What are you getting at here? Bell post wasn't ate? Neither has any of Rem posts been ate.^ Hm but weren't you on our side during this argument.That is not ate? Bellepi post was them saying hey I am sick, i'll post more on day 2.if i had to give it an orderLoona/Sugar/bellepi/Rondo/Grace/Master radishesis this in any sort of order or no
kinda Ex but like this poe is really annoying to sort already
sugar wolf for contradictions
bellepi i personally don't like ate, and i consider ate anything that ends in "I will do things when I'm better" because i have no way of knowing if you are really sick or not, it tells me nothing and it's worth nothing, (nothing personal)
the rest are just fluff posting and/or afk
half the game
Where is the appeal to emotion? There is no emotion at all.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:47:10 PM
I don't view that as atethe sugarmoon post they just madewhere is the ate? Quote the post for me.well they are clearly doing AtE too soI commented about rem talking about ate, never said rem was posting ate???HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
playing the "oh I'm such a victim and everyone is a hypocrite" card is clearly focused on AtE since it uses victimism as their way to get people on their side rather than presenting evidence of that
which is something they know they don't have considering I never even said shit about them voting sugar moon
this is not only AtE but also scummy as fuck since it tries to gaslight the people in the game into siding with them without any proper logical foundation
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 09:47:37 PM
this is not only AtE but also scummy as fuck since it tries to gaslight the people in the game into siding with them without any proper logical foundationThat's not scummy at all.
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:48:36 PM
ime 80% of the time someone is putting words into someone's mouth to make them look significantly scummier they're mafiathis is not only AtE but also scummy as fuck since it tries to gaslight the people in the game into siding with them without any proper logical foundationThat's not scummy at all.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:48:46 PM
Appeal TO emotion
And appeal Through emotion
The former imo is the person trying to make others fell bad for them and give them room for irl situations
And the later is the person going bananas and using CAPS to defend themselves
Just thought about that
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:49:01 PM
I agree with red, it was fustrating to read, wasn't scummy or ate at all.this is not only AtE but also scummy as fuck since it tries to gaslight the people in the game into siding with them without any proper logical foundationThat's not scummy at all.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:49:17 PM
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 09:49:20 PM
How often do you even see this.ime 80% of the time someone is putting words into someone's mouth to make them look significantly scummier they're mafiathis is not only AtE but also scummy as fuck since it tries to gaslight the people in the game into siding with them without any proper logical foundationThat's not scummy at all.
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 09:49:26 PM
Vote: Sugar Moon
Two reasons: a. I hate ties and b. Projekt is at leat trying to defend themselves while Moon seemingly just shut down
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:49:49 PM
Now that's gaslighting
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:50:48 PM
Here in time for EoD, though I'm still a bit busySugar has been mia for a while I don't think you can exactly say they haven't been defending themselves. They vanished before even getting votes.
Vote: Sugar Moon
Two reasons: a. I hate ties and b. Projekt is at leat trying to defend themselves while Moon seemingly just shut down
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:51:10 PM
it's a victimism that literally appeals to our sense of solidarity and injustice to make a decision that goes agains physical evidenceI don't view that as atethe sugarmoon post they just madewhere is the ate? Quote the post for me.well they are clearly doing AtE too soI commented about rem talking about ate, never said rem was posting ate???HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
playing the "oh I'm such a victim and everyone is a hypocrite" card is clearly focused on AtE since it uses victimism as their way to get people on their side rather than presenting evidence of that
which is something they know they don't have considering I never even said shit about them voting sugar moon
this is not only AtE but also scummy as fuck since it tries to gaslight the people in the game into siding with them without any proper logical foundation
if you don't call that AtE what do you call it then
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:51:25 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 09:51:41 PM
Not showing up after they've been voted is not a good signHere in time for EoD, though I'm still a bit busySugar has been mia for a while I don't think you can exactly say they haven't been defending themselves. They vanished before even getting votes.
Vote: Sugar Moon
Two reasons: a. I hate ties and b. Projekt is at leat trying to defend themselves while Moon seemingly just shut down
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:52:17 PM
"no proper logical foundation"go find the posts where we "gave you shit for voting sugar moon" then
Now that's gaslighting
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 09:52:35 PM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:52:55 PM
Maybe, there could be a few reasons they haven't showed up. IG and oog reasons.Not showing up after they've been voted is not a good signHere in time for EoD, though I'm still a bit busySugar has been mia for a while I don't think you can exactly say they haven't been defending themselves. They vanished before even getting votes.
Vote: Sugar Moon
Two reasons: a. I hate ties and b. Projekt is at leat trying to defend themselves while Moon seemingly just shut down
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:53:36 PM
Sorry if you didn't say anything about it but im sure red and loona did, i did not fact check before posting actually"no proper logical foundation"go find the posts where we "gave you shit for voting sugar moon" then
Now that's gaslighting
Guilty of charge your honor
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 09:54:28 PM
That could be true, but when you have a choice between someone self-presing and someone AFKing, the self-preser is more likely to flip town.Maybe, there could be a few reasons they haven't showed up. IG and oog reasons.Not showing up after they've been voted is not a good signHere in time for EoD, though I'm still a bit busySugar has been mia for a while I don't think you can exactly say they haven't been defending themselves. They vanished before even getting votes.
Vote: Sugar Moon
Two reasons: a. I hate ties and b. Projekt is at leat trying to defend themselves while Moon seemingly just shut down
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:54:33 PM
Tsktsk
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:55:24 PM
I did comment on Rem reasoning at the time, but I progressed beyond that so really shouldn't matter. Town should be willing to revaluate their reads on people so it's not something Rem should have jokingly commented on in the first place.Sorry if you didn't say anything about it but im sure red and loona did, i did not fact check before posting actually"no proper logical foundation"go find the posts where we "gave you shit for voting sugar moon" then
Now that's gaslighting
Guilty of charge your honor
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:55:31 PM
surprisingly not that oftenHow often do you even see this.ime 80% of the time someone is putting words into someone's mouth to make them look significantly scummier they're mafiathis is not only AtE but also scummy as fuck since it tries to gaslight the people in the game into siding with them without any proper logical foundationThat's not scummy at all.
sometimes it happens but it's usually a simple misunderstanding that can be clarified with a little of talking, but in the case of Rem it's obviously a deliberate lie just to AtE which is either just to cause chaos or simply a scummy play
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:57:09 PM
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 09:57:44 PM
ok I actually appreciate thisSorry if you didn't say anything about it but im sure red and loona did, i did not fact check before posting actually"no proper logical foundation"go find the posts where we "gave you shit for voting sugar moon" then
Now that's gaslighting
Guilty of charge your honor
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 09:57:55 PM
surprisingly not that often
sometimes it happens but it's usually a simple misunderstanding that can be clarified with a little of talking, but in the case of Rem it's obviously a deliberate lie just to AtE which is either just to cause chaos or simply a scummy play
Don't love you responding to Rem before me when I posted first. Or this response.
Also Rem's emotions are legitimate it's simply a question of where they come from.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:58:19 PM
BUT NO INSTEAD WE CALL REM CRAZY AND A GASLIGHTER BUT STILL VOTE FOR HER FUCKING CASED PUSH
ARE YOU EVEN HUMAN SMH
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:58:47 PM
Lovingly tell me your options if you so have them.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 09:59:28 PM
Maybe just MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE DOING PUSHES IN THIS THREAD AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT PUSH FROM ANY OF YOU TO TALK ABOUTthis is ate :P
BUT NO INSTEAD WE CALL REM CRAZY AND A GASLIGHTER BUT STILL VOTE FOR HER FUCKING CASED PUSH
ARE YOU EVEN HUMAN SMH
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 09:59:43 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 09:59:49 PM
Vote: Projekt RedWhy tie it? Do you even wolfread Projekt?
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 10:00:15 PM
Yeah i know irony is part of comedyMaybe just MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE DOING PUSHES IN THIS THREAD AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT PUSH FROM ANY OF YOU TO TALK ABOUTthis is ate :P
BUT NO INSTEAD WE CALL REM CRAZY AND A GASLIGHTER BUT STILL VOTE FOR HER FUCKING CASED PUSH
ARE YOU EVEN HUMAN SMH
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:01:21 PM
are you needy or just overanalyzingsurprisingly not that often
sometimes it happens but it's usually a simple misunderstanding that can be clarified with a little of talking, but in the case of Rem it's obviously a deliberate lie just to AtE which is either just to cause chaos or simply a scummy play
Don't love you responding to Rem before me when I posted first. Or this response.
Also Rem's emotions are legitimate it's simply a question of where they come from.
I'm going back and forth in the thread and answering what I see and think deserves a reply
sometimes I miss messages and sometimes my opinion on whether or not to readdress something changes
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 10:01:28 PM
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:01:46 PM
Don't want to flashwagon anyone else.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:01:51 PM
I think its fine, personally I still think there is a dictonomy between rem and red. A little more certain on it being red than rem though.Vote: Projekt RedWhy tie it? Do you even wolfread Projekt?
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
I just wanna flip sugar first before I poke on those slots because I think sugar flip would help me to better solve rem and red.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:02:15 PM
Everyone in the thread is probably town except for Ex and I wouldn't mind flashwagoning Ex.Why? Without a why this just seems like an OMGUS read.
Don't want to flashwagon anyone else.
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 10:02:59 PM
What do you mean by this? I.e. what would you conclude if Moon flipped town or wolf?I think its fine, personally I still think there is a dictonomy between rem and red. A little more certain on it being red than rem though.Vote: Projekt RedWhy tie it? Do you even wolfread Projekt?
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
I just wanna flip sugar first before I poke on those slots because I think sugar flip would help me to better solve rem and red.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 10:03:44 PM
This is a towny questionWhat do you mean by this? I.e. what would you conclude if Moon flipped town or wolf?I think its fine, personally I still think there is a dictonomy between rem and red. A little more certain on it being red than rem though.Vote: Projekt RedWhy tie it? Do you even wolfread Projekt?
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
I just wanna flip sugar first before I poke on those slots because I think sugar flip would help me to better solve rem and red.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:04:04 PM
Ex didn't sus me until they OMGUSed me just now.Everyone in the thread is probably town except for Ex and I wouldn't mind flashwagoning Ex.Why? Without a why this just seems like an OMGUS read.
Don't want to flashwagon anyone else.
You can see me probing them.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:04:21 PM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:06:02 PM
If sugar were to flip town, I am less certain on that dictonomy being a thing that's why.What do you mean by this? I.e. what would you conclude if Moon flipped town or wolf?I think its fine, personally I still think there is a dictonomy between rem and red. A little more certain on it being red than rem though.Vote: Projekt RedWhy tie it? Do you even wolfread Projekt?
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
I just wanna flip sugar first before I poke on those slots because I think sugar flip would help me to better solve rem and red.
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 10:07:14 PM
So the only information you'll get out of the flip is whether a dichotomy is likely?If sugar were to flip town, I am less certain on that dictonomy being a thing that's why.What do you mean by this? I.e. what would you conclude if Moon flipped town or wolf?I think its fine, personally I still think there is a dictonomy between rem and red. A little more certain on it being red than rem though.Vote: Projekt RedWhy tie it? Do you even wolfread Projekt?
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
I just wanna flip sugar first before I poke on those slots because I think sugar flip would help me to better solve rem and red.
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 20, 2024, 10:07:24 PM
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 10:07:28 PM
Rem postcap.It's lifted
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:07:41 PM
How was their vote on you an OMGUS?Ex didn't sus me until they OMGUSed me just now.Everyone in the thread is probably town except for Ex and I wouldn't mind flashwagoning Ex.Why? Without a why this just seems like an OMGUS read.
Don't want to flashwagon anyone else.
You can see me probing them.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:08:19 PM
Other stuff to, but thats the most important part for my own reads.So the only information you'll get out of the flip is whether a dichotomy is likely?If sugar were to flip town, I am less certain on that dictonomy being a thing that's why.What do you mean by this? I.e. what would you conclude if Moon flipped town or wolf?I think its fine, personally I still think there is a dictonomy between rem and red. A little more certain on it being red than rem though.Vote: Projekt RedWhy tie it? Do you even wolfread Projekt?
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
I just wanna flip sugar first before I poke on those slots because I think sugar flip would help me to better solve rem and red.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:08:37 PM
I'll probably stay on Sugar although I don't feel it's a hit anymore.
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 10:09:41 PM
Ex and Loona could both be wolves.I'll admit, it is a bit weird to be voting someone you think is town. We still have fifty minutes left
I'll probably stay on Sugar although I don't feel it's a hit anymore.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:10:03 PM
How was their vote on you an OMGUS?
It's not.
They, did not, vote me because they wolfread me.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 10:10:12 PM
Ex and Loona could both be wolves.Yeah i can see it, I'll give you that
I'll probably stay on Sugar although I don't feel it's a hit anymore.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:10:46 PM
With Rem we could flashwagon still.Ex and Loona could both be wolves.I'll admit, it is a bit weird to be voting someone you think is town. We still have fifty minutes left
I'll probably stay on Sugar although I don't feel it's a hit anymore.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:10:55 PM
Ex and Loona could both be wolves.YOur like the 3rd person to accuse me of being paired with a person i psuedo defended.
I'll probably stay on Sugar although I don't feel it's a hit anymore.
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 10:11:08 PM
Ces't la vie
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:12:04 PM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:12:08 PM
But if loona and Ex are wolves they are dping better than +50% of this game soDPing?
Ces't la vie
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 10:12:42 PM
Doing* typoBut if loona and Ex are wolves they are dping better than +50% of this game soDPing?
Ces't la vie
Phone posting
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:13:23 PM
Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.Don't follow what you mean by this?
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:15:38 PM
I do not have a wolf read on them but I think that slot provides a lot of information based on his flipVote: Projekt RedWhy tie it? Do you even wolfread Projekt?
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
I don't have a major lean I felt worth pursuing yet so for now making sure we get reactions and interactions between players is the priority to me
so as I said before the main reason is because tied EoD wagons provide great vote interactions that can be analyzed later on
u breaking the tie did not go unnoticed and I actually think it's townie unless red flips mafia
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:15:54 PM
Actually not sure why I thought you were paired with Sugar but Ex is pushing Rem/probably intending to propel off my push which says Sugar being town spews Rem town.Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.Don't follow what you mean by this?
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:16:55 PM
I'm not OMGUSing you?Ex didn't sus me until they OMGUSed me just now.Everyone in the thread is probably town except for Ex and I wouldn't mind flashwagoning Ex.Why? Without a why this just seems like an OMGUS read.
Don't want to flashwagon anyone else.
You can see me probing them.
how is my vote tying your wagon any different from me doing it to sugar moon?
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:17:03 PM
I do not have a wolf read on them but I think that slot provides a lot of information based on his flipVote: Projekt RedWhy tie it? Do you even wolfread Projekt?
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
I don't have a major lean I felt worth pursuing yet so for now making sure we get reactions and interactions between players is the priority to me
so as I said before the main reason is because tied EoD wagons provide great vote interactions that can be analyzed later on
u breaking the tie did not go unnoticed and I actually think it's townie unless red flips mafia
I agree with the interaction bit and the read on Ori
I don't agree with you placing a tie on someone you don't even scum read and i've never been a fan of information flips even if its only day 1. I vote people on the assumption they are flipping red.
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 10:17:14 PM
Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.If Loona/Moon are w/w and you were town, why would Loona vote Moon over you?
Post by: Oricorio on January 20, 2024, 10:17:54 PM
Don't vote for "information", vote to catch wolvesI do not have a wolf read on them but I think that slot provides a lot of information based on his flipVote: Projekt RedWhy tie it? Do you even wolfread Projekt?
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
I don't have a major lean I felt worth pursuing yet so for now making sure we get reactions and interactions between players is the priority to me
so as I said before the main reason is because tied EoD wagons provide great vote interactions that can be analyzed later on
u breaking the tie did not go unnoticed and I actually think it's townie unless red flips mafia
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:19:02 PM
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:19:41 PM
Sugar stopped posting.Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.If Loona/Moon are w/w and you were town, why would Loona vote Moon over you?
Which I think was why I had Loona as partnered actually.
Anyways today sucks.
Vote: Bellepi
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:20:01 PM
If I am wolf with moon I would have just stayed on you or went with the flow of the thread there was no reason for me to build traction on moon.Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.If Loona/Moon are w/w and you were town, why would Loona vote Moon over you?
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:20:04 PM
voting for wolves blindly is just a die throw, with information we can improve the odds of catching multiple wolvesDon't vote for "information", vote to catch wolvesI do not have a wolf read on them but I think that slot provides a lot of information based on his flipVote: Projekt RedWhy tie it? Do you even wolfread Projekt?
there's still an hour left
I want more tie interactions
I don't have a major lean I felt worth pursuing yet so for now making sure we get reactions and interactions between players is the priority to me
so as I said before the main reason is because tied EoD wagons provide great vote interactions that can be analyzed later on
u breaking the tie did not go unnoticed and I actually think it's townie unless red flips mafia
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:20:36 PM
why are you stopping self preserv?Sugar stopped posting.Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.If Loona/Moon are w/w and you were town, why would Loona vote Moon over you?
Which I think was why I had Loona as partnered actually.
Anyways today sucks.
Vote: Bellepi
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:20:38 PM
I have a scumlean on Loona tbf but I think it's a bit amusing I'm being paired with them when I criticized them for voting Oricorio who I had RVSPretty sure Red did not keep this in mind when making that read which I find kind of funny lol.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:21:09 PM
Why bell over moon?Sugar stopped posting.Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.If Loona/Moon are w/w and you were town, why would Loona vote Moon over you?
Which I think was why I had Loona as partnered actually.
Anyways today sucks.
Vote: Bellepi
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:22:26 PM
I Didn't realize you were on me prior to being on Moon.If I am wolf with moon I would have just stayed on you or went with the flow of the thread there was no reason for me to build traction on moon.Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.If Loona/Moon are w/w and you were town, why would Loona vote Moon over you?
(I Never paired Ex and Loona btw.)
IDK I don't think I'm staying on them.
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:24:10 PM
Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.
Ex and Loona could both be wolves.this wasn't pairing me and loona?
I'll probably stay on Sugar although I don't feel it's a hit anymore.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:25:36 PM
Vote: Sugar Moon
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:25:58 PM
??? I was on Ori not you.I Didn't realize you were on me prior to being on Moon.If I am wolf with moon I would have just stayed on you or went with the flow of the thread there was no reason for me to build traction on moon.Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.If Loona/Moon are w/w and you were town, why would Loona vote Moon over you?
(I Never paired Ex and Loona btw.)
IDK I don't think I'm staying on them.
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:29:56 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:31:33 PM
Abi why did you vote Ori all of a sudden? Science isnt a reason espically since deadline is in like 5 hours.I like ties
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:32:45 PM
Maybe I'm not as bad as I think I amI wanna build teams but I can't since theres so many people that aren't active which makes it hard, unless I assume all mafia are active or atleast 2 are with 1 being an inactive.And this is my exact feeling
I hope we they just get [redacted]
Grace is... Something
About Abi, i haven't seen you abuse ate in the way i discribed it maybe i'm delusional, also you don't pretend like you should gain a shield for that
I have seen wolf get angry because they tried to ate and were killed anyway which is ?????
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:33:58 PM
Gonna ghost eod good luck
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:35:39 PM
Vote: Projekt Redno no no, why red over moon, i need a reason.
Gonna ghost eod good luck
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:36:43 PM
Vote: Projekt Redwhy gonna ghost it?
Gonna ghost eod good luck
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:37:12 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:38:38 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:39:00 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:39:46 PM
Because I'm 8 pages behind and cba to catch upVote: Projekt Redwhy gonna ghost it?
Gonna ghost eod good luck
Post by: Rem on January 20, 2024, 10:40:56 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:41:26 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:41:34 PM
Hear what from meI Wanted to hear from Abi.how is helping steamroll a player that isn't in the thread "doing more today"HUH? Where is there ate.You just commented about it...
Yeah I am pretty certain off of this post either you or rem is evil, because I have 0 idea where this post came from.
Vote: Sugar Moon
This is going uncomfortably slow. I Wanted to do more today.
Rem why are you still voting me when your wolfread is in range hm?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:42:13 PM
Oh cool Ex is townFunny that the 3 mofos who gave me shit for voting sugar moonDear lord, talk about victim complex.
Are now voting sugar moon
The duality.
Where did I give you shit for voting sugar moon? Stop putting words in my mouth.
The only thing I even talked about involving you was asking you about your read on Red twice and you ignored it. So yea.
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:43:33 PM
Your both town behave I adore both of youStip piting wirds in mi miithare you always this insufferable
I would not mind a CFD or policy lynch on Rem
If they're scum, good. If they're town they're just gonna undermine the game integrity and be obnoxious and toxic with semantics and with these tauntings.
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:45:06 PM
Hear what from me
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174695#msg174695
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:47:39 PM
Everyone in the thread is probably town except for Ex and I wouldn't mind flashwagoning Ex.Ex is town get good
Don't want to flashwagon anyone else.
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:48:20 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:49:46 PM
Jeez red you misread stuff alot, I can't even tell if its an accident anymore or on purpose.(https://media1.tenor.com/m/ucQ9yWNANh0AAAAd/kyaru-princess-connect.gif)
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:50:30 PM
They both suck tbh but red is active and blatantly incorrect about things they shouldn't be wrong aboutVote: Projekt Redno no no, why red over moon, i need a reason.
Gonna ghost eod good luck
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:50:58 PM
do u always break ties when not caught up abbiYes when I remember to
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:51:12 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:51:33 PM
How are they gaslight you?Hear what from me
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174695#msg174695
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:51:44 PM
if you're pocketing me you're doing it very well abbiI know ;)
Post by: Wintermoot on January 20, 2024, 10:53:29 PM
This is hard...I'm reminded of one good thing about not voting the first day, not having to vote when you're not entirely sure. Though I guess you're never completely sure anyways, it's just even worse on the first day.
I would have liked to hear from Sugar Moon, because I can't help but feel like an elaboration from him would have helped clear that up. I can't help but feel like the whole thing could be a misunderstanding. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be much reasoning behind Red either...I guess it's just how it is the first day. =/
If I have to vote for one (I mean I could vote for someone else but what would be the point?), I guess it'd be Vote: Projekt Red
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:53:52 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:54:31 PM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:54:56 PM
Vote: Sugar Moondont just cause a tie cause its funny
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:56:07 PM
I think we got enough interactions and I'd rather go for a MIA player than Red who can continuously give us more interactions
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:57:42 PM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:58:29 PM
Vote: Projekt RedHonestly your just being a brat now
Post by: Projekt Red on January 20, 2024, 10:58:33 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:58:58 PM
Full disclosure I wanted red to react more
But moon is wolf
Post by: ExLight on January 20, 2024, 10:59:02 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:59:04 PM
Post by: Loona on January 20, 2024, 10:59:12 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:59:18 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:59:31 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 10:59:36 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 20, 2024, 11:00:01 PM
Thank you!Vote: Projekt RedHonestly your just being a brat now
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 20, 2024, 11:02:37 PM
Sugar Moon: 5 (Projekt Red, Oricorio, ExLight, Loona, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
No Vote (Never Voted): Sugar Moon, Grace, RondoDimBuckle, Master Radishes
As you can see, Sugar Moon got the most votes.
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 20, 2024, 11:03:27 PM
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 20, 2024, 11:03:54 PM
Post by: Wintermoot on January 21, 2024, 03:49:18 AM
Why do you Play Werewolf/Mafia? (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8117.0)
Which side do you prefer? (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=6932.0)
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 21, 2024, 11:01:02 PM
Last night, Projekt Red the Villager was found dead!
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 21, 2024, 11:05:35 PM
Post by: Rem on January 21, 2024, 11:05:51 PM
Day 2 Starts!I didn't believe your pr claim for a second
Last night, Projekt Red the Villager was found dead!
But it appears that mafia did
Lovely
If hypothetically i was seer Rondo is town
Post by: Rem on January 21, 2024, 11:08:21 PM
Let's start with this and go from there
Post by: Rem on January 21, 2024, 11:11:16 PM
Elite read btwI agree Red/Oricorio not w/w, was leaning v/v but this post stinks"I refuse to town read effort"Certainly I can be town to you for posting your thoughts before you with more precise articulation?So what do you think of Ori from this? Why do you townread Ori so far? Vibes?I honestly don't think I've ever planned one single thing in wolf chat lol
while I cannot say I haven't planned before in wolf chat
it usually doesn't happen until after like 20+ hours into the game AT MINIMUM
so yeah it's the same thing i thought while reading that
because half game hasn't posted and the rest was doodoo on a stick?
I did say the bar was low
Like you can feel Red is just itching to sus Ori but waiting for someone else to do it first. And they're leaning very hard into the twtbaw vibe. Also Red you have no pronouns listed.
Never played with Oricorio before but trying to squeeze an alignment from entrance posts is a playstyle that makes wolfing hard
Thought Zenon (who I will refer to as Abigail from now on to make things easier) was sus for dipping rvs like she did, but reentrance was towny and she's asking good questions so lean v.
Winter lean town for being comfortable in thread, if I were an inexperienced wolf in this setup I'd be sweating buckets.
Rem null bc I refuse to townread effort
Bellepi/Loona/Ex slight sus for similar reasons I initially sussed Abigail, coming to thread to show you're there but without meaningfully interacting with what's going on. Probably 1/3 here.
"Abigail is asking good questions, town lean"
"These 3 people are sus for doing nothing"
Hello?
While effort for me particularly is not AI, you are claiming to no know me
And your post is filled with contradictions
Can you re articulate, what do you town read?
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 21, 2024, 11:29:56 PM
funny, hypothetically if I was seer Neon is townDay 2 Starts!I didn't believe your pr claim for a second
Last night, Projekt Red the Villager was found dead!
But it appears that mafia did
Lovely
If hypothetically i was seer Rondo is town
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 21, 2024, 11:33:02 PM
Vote: Wintermoot
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 21, 2024, 11:42:56 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 21, 2024, 11:54:54 PM
Huh... weird killwhy weird?
they were clearly town conf and they had fake claimed power role
Post by: ExLight on January 21, 2024, 11:57:17 PM
we can probably force scum's hand a bit here which is nice too
oricorio probably one of the towniest players considering they originally broke the tie to get sugar lynched
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 12:14:15 AM
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 12:15:07 AM
Post by: Loona on January 22, 2024, 12:42:26 AM
Post by: Loona on January 22, 2024, 12:43:25 AM
I was going to call for a Red kill today to clear up wagons. But now I want Winter. Obviously present, big walls with no actual outcome, decided to try and get a town over instead of the wolf.Why though? Red is the counter wagon to a wolf flip there was always a higher chance the slot was going to flip town because the likelihood of 2 mafia being the final wagons on day 1 is just super slim
Vote: Wintermoot
Post by: Loona on January 22, 2024, 12:45:02 AM
Wintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.My issue is with Abi trying to force a tie espically now knowing that Sugar was a red flip. I brought it up before day 1 ended but it felt as though Abi wanted to try to get the tie to rang onto red.
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
Post by: Loona on January 22, 2024, 12:47:49 AM
Wintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.Rem was the original person that started the supicion on sugar, do you really think Rem felt the need to bus that early into day 1?
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
Post by: Loona on January 22, 2024, 01:09:48 AM
I actually really appreciate the Red kill, it has killed a lot of paranoid fringe worlds of tinfoil for me. Especially if I am right in thinking that Red is Pizza or whatever from MU. Thanks wolves.Can you give us a read list since you were not existant during day 1.
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 01:50:36 AM
Because Rem blew up their team and is the biggest threatHuh... weird killwhy weird?
they were clearly town conf and they had fake claimed power role
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 01:52:58 AM
I wanted red to react at all...Wintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.My issue is with Abi trying to force a tie espically now knowing that Sugar was a red flip. I brought it up before day 1 ended but it felt as though Abi wanted to try to get the tie to rang onto red.
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 01:53:11 AM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 01:56:00 AM
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 02:13:06 AM
Wintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.Vote: Ex Light
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
Post by: Loona on January 22, 2024, 02:25:08 AM
I was always voting moonI mean you said that when the phase ended but I don't believe that, I don't think i vote you here but ur going to be in my poe for a bit.
Post by: Loona on January 22, 2024, 02:26:37 AM
Vote: GraceI do agree we should probably hit a low poster on day 2, because otherwise they will continue to exist and just hurt the game.
Post by: Grace on January 22, 2024, 02:32:34 AM
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 02:35:41 AM
Post by: Grace on January 22, 2024, 02:36:56 AM
Post by: Loona on January 22, 2024, 02:38:34 AM
Think abis town thats about allhow come?
Post by: Grace on January 22, 2024, 02:40:26 AM
I have a 6th sense, I would trust itThink abis town thats about allhow come?
moving on loona isssssss town? Not sure on this rn give me 2 mins
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 02:45:23 AM
I literally made the vote that solidified the lynch on Sugar Moon what is your reasoning here other than OMGUSWintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.Vote: Ex Light
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 02:48:09 AM
I don't mind her doing tie shenanigansWintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.My issue is with Abi trying to force a tie espically now knowing that Sugar was a red flip. I brought it up before day 1 ended but it felt as though Abi wanted to try to get the tie to rang onto red.
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
but the fact she was going for a red lynch but was kinda forced to vote sugar to not look too bad after the red power role claim is kinda blergh
even if it was her vote who took sugar down
cuz it was mainly self preserv by trying to create a gap
It's probably important to remember that she initially broke the tie by voting red and wanting to vanish in the EoD until people squeezed her a bit
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 02:52:18 AM
Also your vote didn't count, prolly cuz my name was mispelledWintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.Vote: Ex Light
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
I recommend using that checkmark tool in the text editor
for now I'll just
Vote: Wintermoot
I might switch to Radish later depending on moot activity
Post by: Loona on January 22, 2024, 04:03:46 AM
Heres the thing, no one really squeezed. All I said was no no no, explain your vote first, and then they immediatly came back,I don't mind her doing tie shenanigansWintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.My issue is with Abi trying to force a tie espically now knowing that Sugar was a red flip. I brought it up before day 1 ended but it felt as though Abi wanted to try to get the tie to rang onto red.
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
but the fact she was going for a red lynch but was kinda forced to vote sugar to not look too bad after the red power role claim is kinda blergh
even if it was her vote who took sugar down
cuz it was mainly self preserv by trying to create a gap
It's probably important to remember that she initially broke the tie by voting red and wanting to vanish in the EoD until people squeezed her a bit
Post by: Loona on January 22, 2024, 04:05:35 AM
How bout no, because you've done nothing for me to believe you have some 6th sense read.I have a 6th sense, I would trust itThink abis town thats about allhow come?
moving on loona isssssss town? Not sure on this rn give me 2 mins
Post by: Loona on January 22, 2024, 04:12:09 AM
What ya mean by the 2nd sentence, she could have just stayed on red forcing the tie and a rand, i think regardless of the situation it would have looked bad because of her choosing to keep tieing. I just think the whole thing was a facade to high the fact that sugar was going to flip mafia but then again I haven't played with Abi before to udnerstand how they play.I don't mind her doing tie shenanigansWintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.My issue is with Abi trying to force a tie espically now knowing that Sugar was a red flip. I brought it up before day 1 ended but it felt as though Abi wanted to try to get the tie to rang onto red.
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
but the fact she was going for a red lynch but was kinda forced to vote sugar to not look too bad after the red power role claim is kinda blergh
even if it was her vote who took sugar down
cuz it was mainly self preserv by trying to create a gap
It's probably important to remember that she initially broke the tie by voting red and wanting to vanish in the EoD until people squeezed her a bit
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 04:14:27 AM
notice how they never really explained it properly too lolHeres the thing, no one really squeezed. All I said was no no no, explain your vote first, and then they immediatly came back,I don't mind her doing tie shenanigansWintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.My issue is with Abi trying to force a tie espically now knowing that Sugar was a red flip. I brought it up before day 1 ended but it felt as though Abi wanted to try to get the tie to rang onto red.
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
but the fact she was going for a red lynch but was kinda forced to vote sugar to not look too bad after the red power role claim is kinda blergh
even if it was her vote who took sugar down
cuz it was mainly self preserv by trying to create a gap
It's probably important to remember that she initially broke the tie by voting red and wanting to vanish in the EoD until people squeezed her a bit
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 22, 2024, 05:18:02 AM
I was going to call for a Red kill today to clear up wagons. But now I want Winter. Obviously present, big walls with no actual outcome, decided to try and get a town over instead of the wolf.Why though? Red is the counter wagon to a wolf flip there was always a higher chance the slot was going to flip town because the likelihood of 2 mafia being the final wagons on day 1 is just super slim
Vote: Wintermoot
loona is probably a townlean to me while abbi is a wolflean
Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.
I was waiting for a bit but how exlite has been playing around me today with Rem calling me a 'town clear' fake and then Loona's empty demand of me to provide a list after being afk for a whole phase.
I am pretty sure they killed the easy mislynch because they had it right. Sugar Moon + Loona + Ex Lite.
If you are town please feel free to provide a reason why Red would be killed that doesnt boil down to wifom.
Town Clears:
Neon
Myself
Town from play:
Rem
Myself
Spewed Town:
Ori
Grace
Radish
Myself
If I am wrong because I just dont vibe:
Winter
Bell
Wrote this post up after loona asked for a reads list. But was waiting till she demanded that I respond to her. But the limp questioning didnt really want an answer, just wanted to look towny.
I do agree we should probably hit a low poster on day 2, because otherwise they will continue to exist and just hurt the game.
Vote: Grace
Also opportunistic as fuck
Also your vote didn't count, prolly cuz my name was mispelledVote: Ex Light
Wintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
I recommend using that checkmark tool in the text editor
for now I'll just
Vote: Wintermoot
I might switch to Radish later depending on moot activity
This vote makes no sense. I am a no poster from Dayphase 1 and then Ex Lite decides to ignore me and not interact with me at start of day. but Clearly knows I am "green checked" by Rem which means they cant push me so didnt put me in the low poster opportunistic push. I should be suspicious as fuck but instead votes with me on winter? But not even acknowledging or validating my reasons for voting? Just trying to keep a wagon on a town. (Alternate history if I am wrong on one of the two of them Winter is still my best top pick and could partner with either of them easily)
I have yet to find them looking for town, they are just poking people and trying to tear a town core apart.
Vote: ExLight I am equally on Loona so if that is where you would prefer happy to go there Instead
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Using more conventional knowledge.
It would point at 1 in Oricorio / Exlight / Loona. 1 in Grace/Radish. 1 in Wintermoot/Bellepi if I am wrong.
I would look more at the Ex Light / Wintermoot or Loona / Wintermoot worlds first
After that use this vote analysis as you wish because I am dead tonight and thats ok.
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 05:34:54 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 05:38:19 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 05:40:51 AM
Vote: Sugar Moon
Their read on me was fakeSo working backwards for a bit, Abby was the last voter on the Moon wagon. They gave this reason, but it was barely elaborated at all and seemingly came out of nowhere (but I can't tell for sure, because again, no ISO). If Abby could elaborate this point, it'd be nice
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 05:42:03 AM
this is horribleI was going to call for a Red kill today to clear up wagons. But now I want Winter. Obviously present, big walls with no actual outcome, decided to try and get a town over instead of the wolf.Why though? Red is the counter wagon to a wolf flip there was always a higher chance the slot was going to flip town because the likelihood of 2 mafia being the final wagons on day 1 is just super slim
Vote: Wintermootloona is probably a townlean to me while abbi is a wolfleanLoona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.
I was waiting for a bit but how exlite has been playing around me today with Rem calling me a 'town clear' fake and then Loona's empty demand of me to provide a list after being afk for a whole phase.
I am pretty sure they killed the easy mislynch because they had it right. Sugar Moon + Loona + Ex Lite.
If you are town please feel free to provide a reason why Red would be killed that doesnt boil down to wifom.
Town Clears:
Neon
Myself
Town from play:
Rem
Myself
Spewed Town:
Ori
Grace
Radish
Myself
If I am wrong because I just dont vibe:
Winter
Bell
Wrote this post up after loona asked for a reads list. But was waiting till she demanded that I respond to her. But the limp questioning didnt really want an answer, just wanted to look towny.I do agree we should probably hit a low poster on day 2, because otherwise they will continue to exist and just hurt the game.
Vote: Grace
Also opportunistic as fuckAlso your vote didn't count, prolly cuz my name was mispelledVote: Ex Light
Wintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
I recommend using that checkmark tool in the text editor
for now I'll just
Vote: Wintermoot
I might switch to Radish later depending on moot activity
This vote makes no sense. I am a no poster from Dayphase 1 and then Ex Lite decides to ignore me and not interact with me at start of day. but Clearly knows I am "green checked" by Rem which means they cant push me so didnt put me in the low poster opportunistic push. I should be suspicious as fuck but instead votes with me on winter? But not even acknowledging or validating my reasons for voting? Just trying to keep a wagon on a town. (Alternate history if I am wrong on one of the two of them Winter is still my best top pick and could partner with either of them easily)
I have yet to find them looking for town, they are just poking people and trying to tear a town core apart.
Vote: ExLight I am equally on Loona so if that is where you would prefer happy to go there Instead
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867416614566625310/1198858320874831922/image.png?ex=65c06ed1&is=65adf9d1&hm=52e040050291a7215e247e7e50157a35b243497b5b0dece10db030ef38556065&)
Using more conventional knowledge.
It would point at 1 in Oricorio / Exlight / Loona. 1 in Grace/Radish. 1 in Wintermoot/Bellepi if I am wrong.
I would look more at the Ex Light / Wintermoot or Loona / Wintermoot worlds first
After that use this vote analysis as you wish because I am dead tonight and thats ok.
to you both me and loona who pushed and made the sugar wagon the leading one are in your PoE? Instead of the people that didn't partake or that were sitting on the mislynch?
this doesn't even make sense, please dude
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 05:42:12 AM
Vote: Projekt RedAdmittedly this is even more weird. It's like they knew Moon was wolf, yet wanted to save them anyway. But why say that openly?
Full disclosure I wanted red to react more
But moon is wolf
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 05:43:09 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 05:44:26 AM
Vote: Sugar MoonI believe this broke a tie, so I probably wouldn't lynch here today. Leaving the vote tied for so long is... something, but that's a discussion for another day I guess. Occam's Razor suggests this is town.
I think we got enough interactions and I'd rather go for a MIA player than Red who can continuously give us more interactions
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 05:45:01 AM
I think she's implying she'd always change vote to moon last second but it just seems really unnecessary since less than two minutes left on the clock isn't exactly a lot of time for red to react to anythingVote: Projekt RedAdmittedly this is even more weird. It's like they knew Moon was wolf, yet wanted to save them anyway. But why say that openly?
Full disclosure I wanted red to react more
But moon is wolf
red had already reacted plenty before in the EoD too so this play from her was just reckless at best and else feels scummy
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 05:45:34 AM
Loona's aggressiveness in pushing the Moon lynch does look good in hindsight.Vote: Sugar Moondont just cause a tie cause its funny
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 05:46:56 AM
Sorry for the last minute vote...something came up I didn't expect. v_vThis does feel a bit hedgy and light on reasoning, plus it seemingly came out of nowhere (again, no ISO so I can't verify 100%). Into the POE this one goes
This is hard...I'm reminded of one good thing about not voting the first day, not having to vote when you're not entirely sure. Though I guess you're never completely sure anyways, it's just even worse on the first day.
I would have liked to hear from Sugar Moon, because I can't help but feel like an elaboration from him would have helped clear that up. I can't help but feel like the whole thing could be a misunderstanding. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be much reasoning behind Red either...I guess it's just how it is the first day. =/
If I have to vote for one (I mean I could vote for someone else but what would be the point?), I guess it'd be Vote: Projekt Red
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 05:47:01 AM
I'd also like to point out that at one point Red removed the vote from Sugar which solidified him as the Day's lynch and both me and Loona pressed him into revoting Sugar for self preservVote: Sugar MoonI believe this broke a tie, so I probably wouldn't lynch here today. Leaving the vote tied for so long is... something, but that's a discussion for another day I guess. Occam's Razor suggests this is town.
I think we got enough interactions and I'd rather go for a MIA player than Red who can continuously give us more interactions
It wouldn't make sense as wolf for either of us to ask for a town player to maintain the pressure on the scum wagon
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 05:48:27 AM
Vote: Projekt RedAgain, came out of nowhere. She eventually retracted the second part, maybe because she was aware that parking here might make her look bad? Not the best look
Gonna ghost eod good luck
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 05:50:32 AM
This was the one attempt at a vanity wagon yesterday. The fact that no wolves jumped on Bellepi may say something, then again maybe they were just expecting Projekt to go down.Sugar stopped posting.Loona and Ex as wolves might be playing as if Sugar is also a wolf so.If Loona/Moon are w/w and you were town, why would Loona vote Moon over you?
Which I think was why I had Loona as partnered actually.
Anyways today sucks.
Vote: Bellepi
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 05:51:56 AM
Your poe is too broad and you have me in it
So yeah omgus
Like who in their right mind thinks i'm a wolf after single handedly casing sugar out of the game
Arguably town interaction is still bad and correct play would probably be to kill the afks
I don't like that Grace basicly said abi town and that's it because i think Abi has fairly enough wolf equity with sugar
Townies need to get townier
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 05:57:34 AM
B. The wolf team killed red project for his reads, that would point towards bellepi
C. The wolf team killed Red Project for personal interactions
Noob team/not very good wolves is what comes to mind when thinking about red's death because is generally better to leave the cw alive for town to decipher
This is +ev for us
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 05:58:37 AM
Projekt: Rem, Bellepi
Moon: Projekt, Oricorio, Loona
Rem had many opportunities to switch and supposedly even wolfread Moon but didn't for some reason. I can barely remember anything Bellepi posted, which isn't a good sign, but in fairness I don't believe they were around for EoD so they at least had that excuse. Projekt is flipped town, and Loona is probably my strongest townread at this point.
It may also be illustrative to look at the people who no-showed. When wolves go down D1, it may be a sign of a wolf team that wasn't there to defend them.
Sugar Moon, Grace, RondoDimBuckle, Master Radishes
Moon checks out, and RDB did absolutely nothing D1. I can't remember anything from Grace nor anything from MR besides typical slank cover. The three of them all fit well within the PoE and should all be pressured today.
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 06:00:20 AM
A. The wolf team killed red project thinking he was seer and forgot or don't care enough about hunter?Or the wolf team killed Projekt expecting us to overanalyze it. One nightkill isn't enough of a pattern to reach reliable conclusions based on.
B. The wolf team killed red project for his reads, that would point towards bellepi
C. The wolf team killed Red Project for personal interactions
Noob team/not very good wolves is what comes to mind when thinking about red's death because is generally better to leave the cw alive for town to decipher
This is +ev for us
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 06:02:38 AM
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 06:03:20 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 22, 2024, 06:07:43 AM
Counter point: if i know sugar moon is flipping red and got momentum why would w!rem not move there to get even more creed after putting that slot on the spot for most of day 1?You may have thought that Moon was savable, and by the time they weren't the bussing would have been too obvious. Granted, you aren't at the top of my suspicion list today; I think a team of slankers is a more likely possibility, but I'm just not willing to completely rule the possibility out.
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 06:09:52 AM
I appretiate your fear of my wolf range if you are townCounter point: if i know sugar moon is flipping red and got momentum why would w!rem not move there to get even more creed after putting that slot on the spot for most of day 1?You may have thought that Moon was savable, and by the time they weren't the bussing would have been too obvious. Granted, you aren't at the top of my suspicion list today; I think a team of slankers is a more likely possibility, but I'm just not willing to completely rule the possibility out.
And good argument if you are wolf
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 06:19:59 AM
Same could be said for abi
Loona/ex are posting well and i don't think there's more than a wolf there
Winter is blind spot haven't really commited to anything yet
Vote: RondoDimBuckle
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 22, 2024, 06:42:46 AM
Alright, so that gets back to an hour before EoD and by extension when I was last in the thread. Thus, here are the people who basically left their votes parked at EoD:Not that its worth much to say what I would do in the past, but on catching up I would have voted Winter and let someone else sort out Sugar. Probably would have sorted a tie against sugars favour but most likely would have vanity wagoned on Winter D1. Maybe Loona
Projekt: Rem, Bellepi
Moon: Projekt, Oricorio, Loona
Rem had many opportunities to switch and supposedly even wolfread Moon but didn't for some reason. I can barely remember anything Bellepi posted, which isn't a good sign, but in fairness I don't believe they were around for EoD so they at least had that excuse. Projekt is flipped town, and Loona is probably my strongest townread at this point.
It may also be illustrative to look at the people who no-showed. When wolves go down D1, it may be a sign of a wolf team that wasn't there to defend them.
Sugar Moon, Grace, RondoDimBuckle, Master Radishes
Moon checks out, and RDB did absolutely nothing D1. I can't remember anything from Grace nor anything from MR besides typical slank cover. The three of them all fit well within the PoE and should all be pressured today.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 22, 2024, 06:46:51 AM
Thinking more about the nk idt master radishes as a mu regular makes that kill
Same could be said for abi
Loona/ex are posting well and i don't think there's more than a wolf there
Winter is blind spot haven't really commited to anything yet
Vote: RondoDimBuckle
my god you're bad at fancy play syndrome. You didnt even try to give me any wifom cover. I self resolve. You voting me is pointless. In fact your wolf equity just went up with that dumb wifom.Day 2 Starts!I didn't believe your pr claim for a second
Last night, Projekt Red the Villager was found dead!
But it appears that mafia did
Lovely
If hypothetically i was seer Rondo is town
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 22, 2024, 06:50:39 AM
Can't find an ISO feature anywhere (the "posts" thing at the top of the page is worthless) and not willing to ctrl+F through 30 pages for nine different players (if you could set it to 50 posts per page, though...), so shucks. I guess I'll just look at some posts around EoD for now(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867416614566625310/1198882103216066620/image.png?ex=65c084f7&is=65ae0ff7&hm=ee4fcaf85f4744c12ded4e851db10cdc2c470cd5543bd2996ff816f5c72844ab&)
(https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174910#msg174910)
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 07:23:30 AM
I am fancyThinking more about the nk idt master radishes as a mu regular makes that kill
Same could be said for abi
Loona/ex are posting well and i don't think there's more than a wolf there
Winter is blind spot haven't really commited to anything yet
Vote: RondoDimBucklemy god you're bad at fancy play syndrome. You didnt even try to give me any wifom cover. I self resolve. You voting me is pointless. In fact your wolf equity just went up with that dumb wifom.Day 2 Starts!I didn't believe your pr claim for a second
Last night, Projekt Red the Villager was found dead!
But it appears that mafia did
Lovely
If hypothetically i was seer Rondo is town
So you are claiming pr? Ok
Vote: Wintermoot
Post by: Wintermoot on January 22, 2024, 08:21:04 AM
Things turning out like they did, I understand how it looks and expect to be voted out today.
Post by: Grace on January 22, 2024, 11:11:42 AM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:30:32 AM
You don't have to but I will flip town I'm not lyingI was always voting moonI mean you said that when the phase ended but I don't believe that, I don't think i vote you here but ur going to be in my poe for a bit.
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:30:58 AM
Sup hi everyone got pinged in my maf chat 8)Town
Vote: Unvote
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:32:22 AM
I only stayed because my plans were canceled not because you people squeezed meI don't mind her doing tie shenanigansWintermoot, Rem, Grace, Master Radishes is probably my PoE. I'd be fine with a Moot yeet today.My issue is with Abi trying to force a tie espically now knowing that Sugar was a red flip. I brought it up before day 1 ended but it felt as though Abi wanted to try to get the tie to rang onto red.
Abigail and Loona are a bit ambiguous but I'd not prioritize them yet I think
but the fact she was going for a red lynch but was kinda forced to vote sugar to not look too bad after the red power role claim is kinda blergh
even if it was her vote who took sugar down
cuz it was mainly self preserv by trying to create a gap
It's probably important to remember that she initially broke the tie by voting red and wanting to vanish in the EoD until people squeezed her a bit
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 11:33:08 AM
@ExLightI feel like as scum it's very easy to case on a bud but not follow after it
Your poe is too broad and you have me in it
So yeah omgus
Like who in their right mind thinks i'm a wolf after single handedly casing sugar out of the game
Arguably town interaction is still bad and correct play would probably be to kill the afks
I don't like that Grace basicly said abi town and that's it because i think Abi has fairly enough wolf equity with sugar
Townies need to get townier
in the end you stayed on Red and in this context I feel like it speaks louder than any words
I'll reread what the progression to give better judgement, but that that PoE even if somewhat broad was my first impression on the players based on the flip
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:37:00 AM
Can't find an ISO feature anywhere (the "posts" thing at the top of the page is worthless) and not willing to ctrl+F through 30 pages for nine different players (if you could set it to 50 posts per page, though...), so shucks. I guess I'll just look at some posts around EoD for nowEveryone who's playing is only playing mafia you can click on their names to go to their profile go to recent posts and it will function like an iso
Isos are on the list of things to be added but we don't have this as a dedicated feature yet so that's how I do it
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:37:46 AM
I dunno how to elaborate on they fake their town read on me and it was obvious they were trying to pocket meVote: Sugar MoonTheir read on me was fakeSo working backwards for a bit, Abby was the last voter on the Moon wagon. They gave this reason, but it was barely elaborated at all and seemingly came out of nowhere (but I can't tell for sure, because again, no ISO). If Abby could elaborate this point, it'd be nice
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 11:39:16 AM
A. The wolf team killed red project thinking he was seer and forgot or don't care enough about hunter?that's a bit too much wifom
B. The wolf team killed red project for his reads, that would point towards bellepi
C. The wolf team killed Red Project for personal interactions
Noob team/not very good wolves is what comes to mind when thinking about red's death because is generally better to leave the cw alive for town to decipher
This is +ev for us
tbf Hunter can be a double kill for mafia if their reads are bad and early game is when we have the highest town:mafia ratio so it makes sense for them to not care or even aim at the hunter early on
I don't think red's push on bellepi was enough to warrant a kill and he'd probably update his reads based on the sugar flip so I would doubt that was the main reason
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:39:18 AM
I hit the wrong button in the drop down I play on mobile this was supposed to be a Moon vote I think that should be clear by the fact I immediately voted Moon after and the content of this postVote: Projekt RedAdmittedly this is even more weird. It's like they knew Moon was wolf, yet wanted to save them anyway. But why say that openly?
Full disclosure I wanted red to react more
But moon is wolf
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:41:11 AM
Or cause my plans got canceledVote: Projekt RedAgain, came out of nowhere. She eventually retracted the second part, maybe because she was aware that parking here might make her look bad? Not the best look
Gonna ghost eod good luck
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:44:23 AM
Love you RondoCan't find an ISO feature anywhere (the "posts" thing at the top of the page is worthless) and not willing to ctrl+F through 30 pages for nine different players (if you could set it to 50 posts per page, though...), so shucks. I guess I'll just look at some posts around EoD for now(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867416614566625310/1198882103216066620/image.png?ex=65c084f7&is=65ae0ff7&hm=ee4fcaf85f4744c12ded4e851db10cdc2c470cd5543bd2996ff816f5c72844ab&)
(https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174910#msg174910)
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:44:59 AM
Whats the votes so i can yolo someoneClick the votes button on the ui at the top of the page
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:46:03 AM
Looks the worst off EoD imo
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 12:22:18 PM
Bleh@ExLightI feel like as scum it's very easy to case on a bud but not follow after it
Your poe is too broad and you have me in it
So yeah omgus
Like who in their right mind thinks i'm a wolf after single handedly casing sugar out of the game
Arguably town interaction is still bad and correct play would probably be to kill the afks
I don't like that Grace basicly said abi town and that's it because i think Abi has fairly enough wolf equity with sugar
Townies need to get townier
in the end you stayed on Red and in this context I feel like it speaks louder than any words
I'll reread what the progression to give better judgement, but that that PoE even if somewhat broad was my first impression on the players based on the flip
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 01:39:01 PM
Post by: Grace on January 22, 2024, 01:56:52 PM
Post by: Grace on January 22, 2024, 06:03:06 PM
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 07:20:35 PM
Yall are dead afk damnbold statement coming from you
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 07:50:45 PM
Oricorio Interaction on re-read with Red projekt and his flip seems v/v more than v/w Town
ExLight I'm conflicted because maybe Exlight decided to bus Sugar moon, and get credit while disregarding or undermining the fact that I brought sugar moon to light in the first place, yes I didn't end up voting for sugar but I made it clear that i was ok with both wagons whole day long
Bellepi defended sugar/tried to persuade me from that read + voted red projekt in the same post partner equity lean scum
Master Radishes afk, null sadly probably town
Princess Abigail/Loona interaction between loona and Abi eod 1 seem not w/w loona called abi a brat for not voting sugar, which made abi turn her vote to Sugar moon if both're scum mad respect, but i don't think so, currently leaning more towards v/v
RondoDimBuckle partially afk claimed pr w/e town
Grace afk not many contributions when around lean scum
I think Red projekt gives scum the avenue of framing oricorio and wintermoot probably?
so I would like to know what's up with that but I'm also not against voting any of:
wintermoot
Grace
ExLight
bellepi
Vote: Grace
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 09:14:44 PM
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 09:16:07 PM
I still think grace is town herefor?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 09:36:47 PM
Playing in a way that benefits no scum team ever immediately following a day 1 scum flipI still think grace is town herefor?
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 09:48:02 PM
it doesn't benefit town either to just write one liners and only have an opinion on 1 slot, if you can even call it an opinionPlaying in a way that benefits no scum team ever immediately following a day 1 scum flipI still think grace is town herefor?
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 09:51:04 PM
what's your take on every slot? please
Post by: ExLight on January 22, 2024, 10:00:49 PM
can you elaborate a bit pleasePlaying in a way that benefits no scum team ever immediately following a day 1 scum flipI still think grace is town herefor?
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 22, 2024, 10:14:41 PM
So what I am mostly seeing are the worlds of:
Winter + Belle
Rem + X?
Neon + Loona
Or some sort of combination of low poster?
Can you reply to this with your list of who is your die hard town and who you would want to chop today and their counter wagon of who to chop tomorrow.
If you dont reply to this and come in tomorrow saying "I wish we had chopped X instead" town should lynch you because this is your chance to contribute and control wolves options.
Form an opinion from the content on D1 and the lynch and the resulting spew.
Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 10:20:26 PM
Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
*looks at my own poe*
am I joke to you?
plus could you point me towards where you got these pairs?
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 10:21:07 PM
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 10:23:09 PM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 22, 2024, 10:43:15 PM
Reading thread and where most people are voting and discussing.Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
*looks at my own poe*
am I joke to you?
plus could you point me towards where you got these pairs?
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 10:44:56 PM
huh highlight it for me pleaseReading thread and where most people are voting and discussing.Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
*looks at my own poe*
am I joke to you?
plus could you point me towards where you got these pairs?
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 22, 2024, 10:55:53 PM
no. You havent responded to my post so go find it yourselfhuh highlight it for me pleaseReading thread and where most people are voting and discussing.Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
*looks at my own poe*
am I joke to you?
plus could you point me towards where you got these pairs?
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 22, 2024, 10:56:19 PM
Currently Ignoring my own solves to work with the teambumping to next page
So what I am mostly seeing are the worlds of:
Winter + Belle
Rem + X?
Neon + Loona
Or some sort of combination of low poster?
Can you reply to this with your list of who is your die hard town and who you would want to chop today and their counter wagon of who to chop tomorrow.
If you dont reply to this and come in tomorrow saying "I wish we had chopped X instead" town should lynch you because this is your chance to contribute and control wolves options.
Form an opinion from the content on D1 and the lynch and the resulting spew.
Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 11:35:27 PM
If you read the thread I answered your question before you asked, and a simple this person said this and this person is on this side would be enough.no. You havent responded to my post so go find it yourselfhuh highlight it for me pleaseReading thread and where most people are voting and discussing.Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
*looks at my own poe*
am I joke to you?
plus could you point me towards where you got these pairs?
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 11:36:04 PM
Post by: Rem on January 22, 2024, 11:36:32 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:55:02 PM
Since when do townies even play in a way that benefits town 90% of the timeit doesn't benefit town either to just write one liners and only have an opinion on 1 slot, if you can even call it an opinionPlaying in a way that benefits no scum team ever immediately following a day 1 scum flipI still think grace is town herefor?
We've played games with people like this all the time. She's town and I'm not gonna vote her just cause she's not helping town
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:56:00 PM
@☆ Princess Abigail ☆Uh I don't have one on every slot
what's your take on every slot? please
But you grace rondo and ori are all obv town
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 22, 2024, 11:57:00 PM
I don't know how to elaborate on... openly joking about being a wolf while obviously on the block is not beneficial to scum team and unlikely to be a scum play because townies don't think and just kill kill killcan you elaborate a bit pleasePlaying in a way that benefits no scum team ever immediately following a day 1 scum flipI still think grace is town herefor?
Post by: Grace on January 23, 2024, 12:02:59 AM
Anyways
Vote: Rem
Is this a omgsus? Yes? Does this feel like scum going after lhf? Yes? Should you listen to this at all? Probably not
Post by: Grace on January 23, 2024, 12:03:56 AM
Please if I had a scum team theyd be malding so hard rnI forgot to qoute the post from rem sob
Anyways
Vote: Rem
Is this a omgsus? Yes? Does this feel like scum going after lhf? Yes? Should you listen to this at all? Probably not
scum is referring to rem and lhf being me
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 12:17:47 AM
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 12:40:55 AM
dissapointment@☆ Princess Abigail ☆Uh I don't have one on every slot
what's your take on every slot? please
But you grace rondo and ori are all obv town
I feel like rondo is pulling doodoo and can't explain where his worlview comes from
only reason I wouldn't vote there today is because he claimed pr, and that's w/e
but seems like a good target to investigate
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 12:41:47 AM
Please if I had a scum team theyd be malding so hard rnI have no reason to believe wolves are not malding.
Anyways
Vote: Rem
Is this a omgsus? Yes? Does this feel like scum going after lhf? Yes? Should you listen to this at all? Probably not
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 12:44:32 AM
@Wintermoot
why should I tr you?
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 23, 2024, 12:54:15 AM
Rondo is being Rondodissapointment@☆ Princess Abigail ☆Uh I don't have one on every slot
what's your take on every slot? please
But you grace rondo and ori are all obv town
I feel like rondo is pulling doodoo and can't explain where his worlview comes from
only reason I wouldn't vote there today is because he claimed pr, and that's w/e
but seems like a good target to investigate
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 01:02:52 AM
well I don't know what a rondo isRondo is being Rondodissapointment@☆ Princess Abigail ☆Uh I don't have one on every slot
what's your take on every slot? please
But you grace rondo and ori are all obv town
I feel like rondo is pulling doodoo and can't explain where his worlview comes from
only reason I wouldn't vote there today is because he claimed pr, and that's w/e
but seems like a good target to investigate
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 02:12:19 AM
Still waiting on anyone to be townyCurrently Ignoring my own solves to work with the teambumping to next page
So what I am mostly seeing are the worlds of:
Winter + Belle
Rem + X?
Neon + Loona
Or some sort of combination of low poster?
Can you reply to this with your list of who is your die hard town and who you would want to chop today and their counter wagon of who to chop tomorrow.
If you dont reply to this and come in tomorrow saying "I wish we had chopped X instead" town should lynch you because this is your chance to contribute and control wolves options.
Form an opinion from the content on D1 and the lynch and the resulting spew.
Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 02:32:41 AM
Currently Ignoring my own solves to work with the teamWait who is neon?
So what I am mostly seeing are the worlds of:
Winter + Belle
Rem + X?
Neon + Loona
Or some sort of combination of low poster?
Can you reply to this with your list of who is your die hard town and who you would want to chop today and their counter wagon of who to chop tomorrow.
If you dont reply to this and come in tomorrow saying "I wish we had chopped X instead" town should lynch you because this is your chance to contribute and control wolves options.
Form an opinion from the content on D1 and the lynch and the resulting spew.
Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
Die hard towns for me currently are rem and Ori, no one else exactly fits that category. Light is pretty close to that as well.
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 02:46:29 AM
So it's basically like Smogon's crappy "ISO" feature that isn't actually an ISO feature (though at least it doesn't seem to cut off posts, so it's only the second worst in that regard)Can't find an ISO feature anywhere (the "posts" thing at the top of the page is worthless) and not willing to ctrl+F through 30 pages for nine different players (if you could set it to 50 posts per page, though...), so shucks. I guess I'll just look at some posts around EoD for now(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867416614566625310/1198882103216066620/image.png?ex=65c084f7&is=65ae0ff7&hm=ee4fcaf85f4744c12ded4e851db10cdc2c470cd5543bd2996ff816f5c72844ab&)
(https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174910#msg174910)
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 02:49:00 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 02:51:35 AM
here are my thoughts as i went back through the thread and typed in a google doc. i didn't match up quotes with everything but if you have a specific question i'll go grab the quote.This is the one Bellepi post of substance. Notably, their read on Moon is the second longest, if that means anything. I mean, it's hedgy enough that it could be a partner interaction but it's pretty hard to tell since this is their only real progression.
1. Princess Abigail
nothing really stands out to me as a big contribution here dunno if i was just reading too fast or what, activity seemed to dip after the beginning of the thread
2. Wintermoot
decent contributions although mostly off topic
3. Sugar Moon
sugar seems like their home culture for mafia is def different than oricorio and i think we have similar backgrounds in mafia.
light townread for good contributions at start of page 8 although i disagree with their townread on Wintermoot for being comfortable, saying that if they were inexperienced wolf in this setup they’d be sweating buckets. Wintermoot seems plenty experienced and I didn’t see them alluding anywhere to where they might not be experienced as wolf, they said they had been in a lot of games in the old days. I could see w/w sugar and winter but i still lightly townread sugar. it could be a genuine feeling re: the sweating buckets thing esp considering the mafia culture they seem to have.
4. Projekt Red
planning a jokey start of thread fakeclaim isnt AI where im from but red is just making no sense to me in a lot of places. dont get why they scumread ori so hard, doesnt seem like theyre great at explaining reasoning (maybe im just missing stuff idk), seems scattered motivations, dont like how they respond to pressure. highest suspicion for right now definitely.
5. Rem
not loving the hard claiming vanilla town this early in the game, i dont really understand it as a play, if you were vanilla why not keep it vague and tempt their seer into investigating you based on strong gameplay (which you do seem to be good at, or at the least, you seem motivated). idk if this is some sort of wifom? to get them to check you to see if you’re bluffing? would claiming vanilla be more or less likely to get wolves to investigate you out of people who havent claimed. then again are we reading this as a weird play but from town or an obfuscating play from wolf. rem does go on to reference all of this as perhaps an “ultimate wifom as a wolf.” forgive me for not making a huge multiquote.
Didnt like the interactions between rem and sugar on page 8, seems like some intentional misunderstanding on rem’s part and portraying stuff as contradictions when really i didnt see them as contradicting anything. Willing to believe that it was real though.
also willing to believe that annoyance at me for saying im sick was genuine as cynical as it does come off. easy to pounce on though. and if you don’t know whether or not its the truth then it shouldnt be alignment indicative since it could go either way IMO. i dont come from a forum where ATE is like talked about as a thing, ppl are much more understanding when people say that personal shit has come up in the way of participating in-thread. sure maybe its more casual or whatever but thats just my home culture.
i dont agree with their logic on scumreading sugar i think theyre a bit tunnelled. sugar wasnt reading abi towny because effort per se, more like, agreeing with them more, is how i understood it, and i took “not townreading effort” to mean “im not gonna take the highest-posting player as default town because anyone can do that” i didnt see sugar reading abi as town bc effort, more like bc opinions. it just seems intentionally misconstrued. regardless im willing to see this as tunnel i dont have a strong scumlean on rem rn.
6. Oricorio
seems earnest but might just play like that regardless of alignment. regardless i townread for now, not interested in flipping at the moment, good lines of questioning
7. RondoDimBuckle
n/a
8. Grace
n/a
9. ExLight
not loving the coming in, not really saying much, then voting ori without any real reasoning other than saying ori is a strong player. although ori said later that move is quite bold for a wolf so thats something to think about. but something about calling it rva undermines that/gives an excuse for the “boldness” while going for a strong player. but the reasoning makes more sense as that conversation goes on.
10. Bellepi
after the game is over im just gonna say yeah im actually sick. (or ill die and flip v and yall will see it just the same.) meds are starting to kick in though.
11. Master Radishes
is just acting like a meme for now
12. Loona
likes rem yet disagrees with them openly about the ATE stuff about me - i dont want to get like, pocketed, but i dont have terrible vibes from their contributions thus far
So right now Vote: Projekt Red
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 02:54:58 AM
These quote chains are insanely long :(Grace's ISO is pretty empty, this was basically the pinnacle of their contributions D1. Their D2 isn't anything too impressive either, only contributions are a vote on Rem, townread on Abby, and saying a Winter vote is "fine". Pointing out the thread's inactivity when they're inactive themselves is a little odd though, not sure a wolf would want to call attention to that.
Can we like not
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 02:59:41 AM
I have read through all 200+ posts (in some cases again) and found a Werewolf Terminology list (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=6436.0), so let's do this!npI hosted my first game last year. The whole game only had 90 posts, but I enjoyed the experience...more than playing, to be honest. But this seemed to be an important game for Abigail and Caitlin, was designed to be relatively casual, and I feel a bit bad for not being able to persuade more Wintreath people to join...so I figured I'd give it another try.
I see that's fine, I am on the other side a mafia nerd, I'm retiring to hosting mostly tho probably, but I just can't say no to Abigail
how would you resume your process as a town, even if casual, what do you normally do?
Back in the day most of the people who played knew each other (as most of you obviously do), so I would look for things that seemed out of character for them, or for people who tried to drive the game to a particular place for no apparent reason. Then as the game went on and there was more data about who'd been killed as town and wolves, I'd go back and see how that vibed with previous votes and noteworth events. I'd take a lot of notes too, especially for the crazy 500 posts a day games, but I hope it doesn't come to that here.Upgrade nice but I'm never gonna blame you or the site or trash it when I know what you've done hereI think that's the kindest thing anybody's ever told me as Wintreath leader/admin/mod. <3
That's why I am for Werewolf UI updates if and when you can do them and don't worry too much about how long it takes
The upgrade should at least be more mobile-friendly and internalize a lot of the features we're relying on hacky mods for, such as likes, notifications, and multi-quote. it's just that...well, SMF's default skin sucks, so I have to update that, then incorporate years of customizations and expansions. Werewolf shouldn't be too bad to do...I made it later on when I was a better coder, and most of the code is actually independent of the forum code. It's just more skin-work to get the options on the topic page (vote buttons, etc).
Sorry, I don't often get a chance to talk about my work. ^-^If I didn't know better I'd think you were a host of MoD based on your ISO this game. What are your actual thoughts on the game?MoD? That one isn't in my dictionary. I assume you mean my posting about the technical aspects of things though...it's what I best know, I suppose, and given the chance I'd start promoting Wintreath in general. We can always use new members and Citizens in our community. ^-^ :P
I feel like most of your posts are accusatory in some way, complete with judgements about how most players entered the game. It does come off as forceful and a bit contrived...I'm not sure that's enough for me to say you're suspicious though (although perhaps you would in my place :P). Your point about pushing a game forward by applying pressure is well-taken, and feels like something Laurentus might have told me once when we were chatting about MU games. Or you could be a wolf that hopes to come off as a townlead (did I use that jargon right?). Either way, you've made yourself a center of attention for the entire round, and I'm not sure it's been to your benefit regardless of your role.
I don't understand the vote on Sugar Moon, although I'm probably just not comprehending...this game is heavy on jargon at times, and even with a dictionary it's a bit hard for me to process. @Rem mentioned his posts being contradictory, but I didn't understand how so. To some extent I wonder if he came under suspicion because he was the first to post his exact thoughts on all the active players. I haven't been able to focus on any theme behind his posts, so I don't have an opinion either way. That being said, I didn't agree at all when he said that starting out without meaningful interaction is suspicious. I can totally understand people wanting to start getting their posts in if they're busy and haven't had a chance to go over everything yet, especially when there's very little in the way of concrete facts. Not enough to cast any sort of judgement, just a disagreement.
That being said, if that behaviour continued for multiple rounds I might be more open to that argument.
It's completely irrelevant to the game, but I'm left wondering if Projekt Red is a furry (it's the "wuf wuf awooo", lol). That's not meant in a bad way, as Wintreath has an active furry community. More relevantly, I don't agree with the reasoning behind Oricorio's vote on them. Unless I missed something, Sugar Moon didn't wolfread them and went so far as to say not w/w (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174498#msg174498). I don't get the idea of TWTBAW, but I gather getthing that vibe doesn't mean someone's a wolf. Anyone feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood any part of this.
Rem has come across to me as helpful, though I might be putting too much emotion into our non-game interactions on here last night. I didn't like the suspicion on Bellepi for saying that their claiming to be sick is a cause for suspicion...that seemed super-cynical, to the point of being jarring enough to write about it here. I don't know how the game is played on other websites, but if someone claims to be sick I'll take them at their word...if that makes me naive, well, I've been accused of such for far more serious things lol. Still, Projekt Red claims to have experience reading Rem in their vote, and that's probably more relevant than my enjoying some non-game centered conversation with him last night.i caught some sort of illness and have been sleeping all the time/feeling awful so i havent really been focusing on the game as of late, i should get over it by next Day Phase cause i saw a doctor and got meds todayDamn, I hope you feel better soon. :(
but ill try my best to put together thoughts before EoD todayI think the most powerful phase is day 1, since it has a tendency to be the most active and like you mentioned stuff is just thrown against the wall.That's the exact opposite of the thinking behind most traditional Wintreath games, where most people use a No Vote option because they don't want to accidentally vote off a townie and get the game off to a bad start. They reason that it's better for wolves to vote someone off because at least there's hard data to go on during the next day. Your point is well-taken though...this first day has certainly seen some dramatic moments lol.
Assume AI stuff was answered but if not it just means alignment indictive.
What happens most of the time is wolves just interact with each other without thinking because if you try to force yourself not to interact with your partner it just create pretty noticeable discrepancies between the slots.
That makes sense too...wolves would want to interact normally. It was just hard to see wolves pre-planning interactions around each other on the first day, and the consensus seems to be that that's not really a thing.
Winter's ISO is a bit more substantive than I was expecting, albeit some of these posts are so dense it's difficult for my ADHD brain to fully parse them through, and to their credit they did express skepticism on the Moon vote early on, meaning their EoD vote didn't come out of nowhere... still, the reasoning when they did vote was less than inspiring. It's admittedly a bold move for a wolf, but that's all the positives I can really say for this slot
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 03:04:06 AM
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 03:07:59 AM
Neon is Princess AbigailCurrently Ignoring my own solves to work with the teamWait who is neon?
So what I am mostly seeing are the worlds of:
Winter + Belle
Rem + X?
Neon + Loona
Or some sort of combination of low poster?
Can you reply to this with your list of who is your die hard town and who you would want to chop today and their counter wagon of who to chop tomorrow.
If you dont reply to this and come in tomorrow saying "I wish we had chopped X instead" town should lynch you because this is your chance to contribute and control wolves options.
Form an opinion from the content on D1 and the lynch and the resulting spew.
Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
Die hard towns for me currently are rem and Ori, no one else exactly fits that category. Light is pretty close to that as well.
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 03:10:03 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 03:10:53 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 03:22:01 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 03:31:34 AM
Still waiting for Rondo to explain where he got that worldviewwait away
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 04:06:13 AM
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 04:09:59 AM
Rem is the most active player here, and has two votes. It's usually a mistake to vote off the most active player, though given the general inactivity of the game it wouldn't be too difficult for a wolf to get to that position, and they were the most steadfast voter on Projekt's wagon (though they would have also had to have made the choice to flip Projekt in spite of this, which is WIFOM but would still be a bit weird). As for the posts themselves, it isn't easy to sort through 100+ posts when you can only view fifteen a page (thanks forum software) but I'll try my best. They do get some points for seemingly trying to push the game forward, which I appreciate. They did bring up the implications of the Projekt kill, which is something a wolf might do to build a narrative (I did this in my last wolf game) but as I said before this is WIFOM and it'd be better to analyze this kinda stuff when we have multiple flips. Trying to get inactives into the game is a good sign, I mean they are easy wolf targets as well but Rem doesn't seem to be tunneling here. Still, a lot of their EoD stuff still does look weird after the Moon flip, especially from someone who was supposedly fine with Moon going over (which isn't really reflected in their insistence on the Projekt wagon and shading the Moon voters). So overall, a mixed bag, but probably would not vote here for today at least.i never discouraged the sugar wagon
I didn't insist on the projekt red wagon, it's generally good to have at least 2 wagons and i was going for both
literally the only cases/pushes that got more than 2 votes were my pushes/cases
and I asked for anyone to give me an alternative and got nothing
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 04:15:35 AM
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 04:18:43 AM
How am i being sussed as having partner equity with Abi, when right now they are who I suspect the most given the circumstances of EOD ending. I also after everyone jumped off Moon, decided to follow suit with what rem was saying and just sat their till the slot got buried. When I had 0 reason to touch the slot given prior to my vote I had 0 reason to jump their over many others.Neon is Princess AbigailCurrently Ignoring my own solves to work with the teamWait who is neon?
So what I am mostly seeing are the worlds of:
Winter + Belle
Rem + X?
Neon + Loona
Or some sort of combination of low poster?
Can you reply to this with your list of who is your die hard town and who you would want to chop today and their counter wagon of who to chop tomorrow.
If you dont reply to this and come in tomorrow saying "I wish we had chopped X instead" town should lynch you because this is your chance to contribute and control wolves options.
Form an opinion from the content on D1 and the lynch and the resulting spew.
Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
Die hard towns for me currently are rem and Ori, no one else exactly fits that category. Light is pretty close to that as well.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 04:21:27 AM
Vote: RondoDimBuckleNice argument. Shame you're outing
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 04:24:06 AM
that's why I'm asking Rondo what is he smoking and where i can get someHow am i being sussed as having partner equity with Abi, when right now they are who I suspect the most given the circumstances of EOD ending. I also after everyone jumped off Moon, decided to follow suit with what rem was saying and just sat their till the slot got buried. When I had 0 reason to touch the slot given prior to my vote I had 0 reason to jump their over many others.Neon is Princess AbigailCurrently Ignoring my own solves to work with the teamWait who is neon?
So what I am mostly seeing are the worlds of:
Winter + Belle
Rem + X?
Neon + Loona
Or some sort of combination of low poster?
Can you reply to this with your list of who is your die hard town and who you would want to chop today and their counter wagon of who to chop tomorrow.
If you dont reply to this and come in tomorrow saying "I wish we had chopped X instead" town should lynch you because this is your chance to contribute and control wolves options.
Form an opinion from the content on D1 and the lynch and the resulting spew.
Otherwise I might just push my own solve and from peoples reactions Ex Lite and Loona is not on anyones radar
Die hard towns for me currently are rem and Ori, no one else exactly fits that category. Light is pretty close to that as well.
because I don't see you 2 as paired, and I don't remember anyone waying u 2 are paired
but all I'm getting is "no u" for no reason
you get me?
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 04:25:06 AM
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 04:26:01 AM
for raisins
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 04:34:09 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 04:37:36 AM
dejavu of the sugar situationAh yes that obvious wolf strategy of... Do exactly the same thing that caused the wolf day 1 to get caught 5head
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 04:46:32 AM
if you are not wolf, just explain where you got thatdejavu of the sugar situationAh yes that obvious wolf strategy of... Do exactly the same thing that caused the wolf day 1 to get caught 5head
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 04:47:55 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 04:51:49 AM
Also just fyi I don't mind dying here, but I would like to at least give final thoughts if that's what going to happen (for whatever reason) and your reaction to my questions is bugging meWhy? You havent given me a satisfactory answer. (In fact no one who has replied to it has done more so than just surface level bullshit) I see it as quid pro quo.
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 04:55:07 AM
Also just fyi I don't mind dying here, but I would like to at least give final thoughts if that's what going to happen (for whatever reason) and your reaction to my questions is bugging meWhy? You havent given me a satisfactory answer. (In fact no one who has replied to it has done more so than just surface level bullshit) I see it as quid pro quo.
wintermoot voted for Red Projekt over Sugar moon, hasn't given many reasons for his actions, plus reaction to being voted is apologetic, might be a personality thing, lean scum
Oricorio Interaction on re-read with Red projekt and his flip seems v/v more than v/w Town
ExLight I'm conflicted because maybe Exlight decided to bus Sugar moon, and get credit while disregarding or undermining the fact that I brought sugar moon to light in the first place, yes I didn't end up voting for sugar but I made it clear that i was ok with both wagons whole day long
Bellepi defended sugar/tried to persuade me from that read + voted red projekt in the same post partner equity lean scum
Master Radishes afk, null sadly probably town
Princess Abigail/Loona interaction between loona and Abi eod 1 seem not w/w loona called abi a brat for not voting sugar, which made abi turn her vote to Sugar moon if both're scum mad respect, but i don't think so, currently leaning more towards v/v
RondoDimBuckle partially afk claimed pr w/e town
Grace afk not many contributions when around lean scum
I think Red projekt gives scum the avenue of framing oricorio and wintermoot probably?
so I would like to know what's up with that but I'm also not against voting any of:
wintermoot
Grace
ExLight
bellepi
Vote: Grace
like i said I answered before you asked, here is my worldview on everyone, who I would vote and my read on them, progrsion is in my iso and Oricorio also answered your question
now, if you are town, stop being a tubborn piece of work, and answer my question.
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 04:57:02 AM
while I'm here talking to you, and other people too
also loona also kinda said her worldview
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 05:08:20 AM
because what I'm seeing fro you is basicly "lalalalalalal" I'm townie "lalalalala" no one is reading me "lalalalala":) There is almost 0 chance I am the vote today and if I am you're basically throwing
while I'm here talking to you, and other people too
also loona also kinda said her worldview
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 05:09:59 AM
this leaves from T!Abigail pov@☆ Princess Abigail ☆Uh I don't have one on every slot
what's your take on every slot? please
But you grace rondo and ori are all obv town
loona
bellepi
master radishes
Exlight
which i wish she elaborated more on cuz i don't see for example loona/Ex being together, bellepi and radishes heck maybe is that easy
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 05:10:36 AM
alright buddybecause what I'm seeing fro you is basicly "lalalalalalal" I'm townie "lalalalala" no one is reading me "lalalalala":) There is almost 0 chance I am the vote today and if I am you're basically throwing
while I'm here talking to you, and other people too
also loona also kinda said her worldview
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 05:11:11 AM
Time for some cfd pressure
Post by: Wintermoot on January 23, 2024, 05:55:05 AM
@GraceI wouldn't presume to tell you how to read me.
@Wintermoot
why should I tr you?
However, I feel like my real sin was having to take a stand with minutes left in the game...I hadn't intended to do that, but I didn't end up having the time I thought I would and ended up rushing it. But, from the perspective of someone who didn't know Sugar Moon was a wolf, wouldn't it have looked just as suspicious if I voted to bump up someone behind in the vote who for whatever reason didn't vote in any way themselves, disregarding my own prior thoughts in the process? Or if I voted for someone who had no chance of being voted out or no voted at the last minute, looking like I was trying to fly under the radar at the last minute which is the exact worst time to try to fly under the radar?
And if I were a wolf and knew their identity, wouldn't virtually any other course of action make more sense than something so blatant? Especially when they didn't even vote to save themselves? Sure, any action at the end didn't look great, but none as bad as *that*. And even if they hadn't been voted off, they would have easily been the most suspicious, especially once Red was revealed as town. Sounds like a terrible connection for a wolf to knowingly hitch themselves on.
I don't even like voting on Day 1, and I think this is why...
But at the time knowing what I knew then, I felt like it was the best possible vote between the two, and that's why I didn't participate in the musical chairs of vote switching that happened afterwards. I thought the fact that they hadn't as much as voted meant they probably were legitimately busy on the second day and didn't have a chance to either vote or respond. Until there's sufficient evidence to change my mind (and there certainly is now v_v), I stand by my decisions for better or for worse. The fact the roles ended up being what they were fucking sucks, but putting in a last minute vote wasn't going to look great no matter what.
How am i being sussed as having partner equity with Abi, when right now they are who I suspect the most given the circumstances of EOD ending. I also after everyone jumped off Moon, decided to follow suit with what rem was saying and just sat their till the slot got buried. When I had 0 reason to touch the slot given prior to my vote I had 0 reason to jump their over many others.In fairness, Loona seems to have been the first to keep a vote on Sugar Moon without changing it to the end of the round. It's possible the wolves planned that as some sort of sneaky action, but I think it's about as likely on Day 1 as them plotting conversations to have at that point.
On the other hand, Bellapi and I seem to have been most on the same page on Day 1...they spent most of their posts questioning Rem and elaborating on how they felt Rem's clash with Sugar Moon was a misunderstanding, and was the first to vote for Red and stick with that vote for the rest of the round. They weren't involved on the second day though, and I'll assume that it was because they are sick.
Then there's Grace and RondoDimBuckle, who either barely posted or didn't post at all (much less voted) and suddenly showed up this round. Must be nice to start playing on Day 2 with a clean slate and a lot more to go on. I'll have to remember that idea if I play future games...would come in handy as busy as I usually am. :P
And Master Radishes, who so far still isn't active in the game.
Maybe I missed it in the OP, but is there a point where people are removed from the game for not meeting the minimum post requirement? I assumed anyone who didn't meet it for each round would be eliminated at the end of it.
Post by: Wintermoot on January 23, 2024, 06:01:48 AM
As for the posts themselves, it isn't easy to sort through 100+ posts when you can only view fifteen a page (thanks forum software) but I'll try my best.Your Menu (the top right menu that has your name as the title) -> Old User CP -> Modify Profile -> Look and Layout -> Messages to display per page.
You can set it to at least 25 or 50.
Sorry, I'm too wore out to make a pretty graphic demonstration of how to do it, but the one that was posted earlier for something else was fucking cool.
Post by: Wintermoot on January 23, 2024, 06:12:14 AM
:) There is almost 0 chance I am the vote today and if I am you're basically throwinglmao, I have to admit it's hard to believe that a wolf would be this trollish. It's one hell of a cover if that turns out to be the case.
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 23, 2024, 09:00:37 AM
Rondo is a Rondowell I don't know what a rondo isRondo is being Rondodissapointment@☆ Princess Abigail ☆Uh I don't have one on every slot
what's your take on every slot? please
But you grace rondo and ori are all obv town
I feel like rondo is pulling doodoo and can't explain where his worlview comes from
only reason I wouldn't vote there today is because he claimed pr, and that's w/e
but seems like a good target to investigate
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 23, 2024, 09:02:22 AM
Can we please not insult a forum that one person has spent copius amounts of time working onSo it's basically like Smogon's crappy "ISO" feature that isn't actually an ISO feature (though at least it doesn't seem to cut off posts, so it's only the second worst in that regard)Can't find an ISO feature anywhere (the "posts" thing at the top of the page is worthless) and not willing to ctrl+F through 30 pages for nine different players (if you could set it to 50 posts per page, though...), so shucks. I guess I'll just look at some posts around EoD for now(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867416614566625310/1198882103216066620/image.png?ex=65c084f7&is=65ae0ff7&hm=ee4fcaf85f4744c12ded4e851db10cdc2c470cd5543bd2996ff816f5c72844ab&)
(https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174910#msg174910)
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 23, 2024, 09:06:40 AM
What about moot?this leaves from T!Abigail pov@☆ Princess Abigail ☆Uh I don't have one on every slot
what's your take on every slot? please
But you grace rondo and ori are all obv town
loona
bellepi
master radishes
Exlight
which i wish she elaborated more on cuz i don't see for example loona/Ex being together, bellepi and radishes heck maybe is that easy
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 12:36:48 PM
Didn't know waking up that I'd be putting out fires at work until 10:30 at night, but here I am lol.Dont like voting day 1? You dont like giving information to town? Voting day 1 is the most important because it shows what you wanted to do. It doesnt lie. Not wanting to vote day 1 is -ev. I know if I hadnt forgotten about this game I would have voted d1. I would have voted you.@GraceI wouldn't presume to tell you how to read me.
@Wintermoot
why should I tr you?
However, I feel like my real sin was having to take a stand with minutes left in the game...I hadn't intended to do that, but I didn't end up having the time I thought I would and ended up rushing it. But, from the perspective of someone who didn't know Sugar Moon was a wolf, wouldn't it have looked just as suspicious if I voted to bump up someone behind in the vote who for whatever reason didn't vote in any way themselves, disregarding my own prior thoughts in the process? Or if I voted for someone who had no chance of being voted out or no voted at the last minute, looking like I was trying to fly under the radar at the last minute which is the exact worst time to try to fly under the radar?
And if I were a wolf and knew their identity, wouldn't virtually any other course of action make more sense than something so blatant? Especially when they didn't even vote to save themselves? Sure, any action at the end didn't look great, but none as bad as *that*. And even if they hadn't been voted off, they would have easily been the most suspicious, especially once Red was revealed as town. Sounds like a terrible connection for a wolf to knowingly hitch themselves on.
I don't even like voting on Day 1, and I think this is why...
But at the time knowing what I knew then, I felt like it was the best possible vote between the two, and that's why I didn't participate in the musical chairs of vote switching that happened afterwards. I thought the fact that they hadn't as much as voted meant they probably were legitimately busy on the second day and didn't have a chance to either vote or respond. Until there's sufficient evidence to change my mind (and there certainly is now v_v), I stand by my decisions for better or for worse. The fact the roles ended up being what they were fucking sucks, but putting in a last minute vote wasn't going to look great no matter what.How am i being sussed as having partner equity with Abi, when right now they are who I suspect the most given the circumstances of EOD ending. I also after everyone jumped off Moon, decided to follow suit with what rem was saying and just sat their till the slot got buried. When I had 0 reason to touch the slot given prior to my vote I had 0 reason to jump their over many others.In fairness, Loona seems to have been the first to keep a vote on Sugar Moon without changing it to the end of the round. It's possible the wolves planned that as some sort of sneaky action, but I think it's about as likely on Day 1 as them plotting conversations to have at that point.
On the other hand, Bellapi and I seem to have been most on the same page on Day 1...they spent most of their posts questioning Rem and elaborating on how they felt Rem's clash with Sugar Moon was a misunderstanding, and was the first to vote for Red and stick with that vote for the rest of the round. They weren't involved on the second day though, and I'll assume that it was because they are sick.
Then there's Grace and RondoDimBuckle, who either barely posted or didn't post at all (much less voted) and suddenly showed up this round. Must be nice to start playing on Day 2 with a clean slate and a lot more to go on. I'll have to remember that idea if I play future games...would come in handy as busy as I usually am. :P
And Master Radishes, who so far still isn't active in the game.
Maybe I missed it in the OP, but is there a point where people are removed from the game for not meeting the minimum post requirement? I assumed anyone who didn't meet it for each round would be eliminated at the end of it.
If you're going to try and side sus me like this, grow a pair and come out and attack me.
All I see in this is you saying why people are not town and woe is you. No solving, no town finding. I am back to voting you again.
I dont know why but when ever I see your wall posts I just think "wow, that has accomplished nothing and takes up a lot of my screen space" but hey maybe its just our playstyle differencesVote: Wintermoot
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 12:39:21 PM
Oh you really dont know me. Its not helpful at all to share but I have forced a rand on myself as wolf to win the rand and win the game. I lost the rand of course. But hey if I did win the rand that game was in the bag. So anyone in this game will tell you that is a dangerous line of thought.:) There is almost 0 chance I am the vote today and if I am you're basically throwinglmao, I have to admit it's hard to believe that a wolf would be this trollish. It's one hell of a cover if that turns out to be the case.
But luckily I am town this game so we can ignore it
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 12:41:02 PM
So glad I checked your alignment or I would be eyeballing you for this content.Can we please not insult a forum that one person has spent copius amounts of time working onSo it's basically like Smogon's crappy "ISO" feature that isn't actually an ISO feature (though at least it doesn't seem to cut off posts, so it's only the second worst in that regard)Can't find an ISO feature anywhere (the "posts" thing at the top of the page is worthless) and not willing to ctrl+F through 30 pages for nine different players (if you could set it to 50 posts per page, though...), so shucks. I guess I'll just look at some posts around EoD for now(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867416614566625310/1198882103216066620/image.png?ex=65c084f7&is=65ae0ff7&hm=ee4fcaf85f4744c12ded4e851db10cdc2c470cd5543bd2996ff816f5c72844ab&)
(https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174910#msg174910)
You're not wrong. Its a fine enough forum, just needs to be polished up for werewolf usage.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 12:43:21 PM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 12:45:02 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 23, 2024, 12:49:35 PM
I'm not saying it's not full of its problemsSo glad I checked your alignment or I would be eyeballing you for this content.Can we please not insult a forum that one person has spent copius amounts of time working onSo it's basically like Smogon's crappy "ISO" feature that isn't actually an ISO feature (though at least it doesn't seem to cut off posts, so it's only the second worst in that regard)Can't find an ISO feature anywhere (the "posts" thing at the top of the page is worthless) and not willing to ctrl+F through 30 pages for nine different players (if you could set it to 50 posts per page, though...), so shucks. I guess I'll just look at some posts around EoD for now(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867416614566625310/1198882103216066620/image.png?ex=65c084f7&is=65ae0ff7&hm=ee4fcaf85f4744c12ded4e851db10cdc2c470cd5543bd2996ff816f5c72844ab&)
(https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174910#msg174910)
You're not wrong. Its a fine enough forum, just needs to be polished up for werewolf usage.
I'm saying I'd prefer people not trash the forum I'm from and that I'm trying to rebuild werewolf in
Post by: ExLight on January 23, 2024, 01:40:46 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 23, 2024, 01:41:16 PM
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 02:28:47 PM
Could be tooWhat about moot?this leaves from T!Abigail pov@☆ Princess Abigail ☆Uh I don't have one on every slot
what's your take on every slot? please
But you grace rondo and ori are all obv town
loona
bellepi
master radishes
Exlight
which i wish she elaborated more on cuz i don't see for example loona/Ex being together, bellepi and radishes heck maybe is that easy
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 02:30:04 PM
I will be around for eod
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 02:31:40 PM
Vote: Unvote
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 04:32:44 PM
How come you can't be the vote?because what I'm seeing fro you is basicly "lalalalalalal" I'm townie "lalalalala" no one is reading me "lalalalala":) There is almost 0 chance I am the vote today and if I am you're basically throwing
while I'm here talking to you, and other people too
also loona also kinda said her worldview
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 04:38:00 PM
Who do you think are the last 2 mafia and why?:) There is almost 0 chance I am the vote today and if I am you're basically throwinglmao, I have to admit it's hard to believe that a wolf would be this trollish. It's one hell of a cover if that turns out to be the case.
Post by: Wintermoot on January 23, 2024, 04:49:19 PM
Dont like voting day 1? You dont like giving information to town? Voting day 1 is the most important because it shows what you wanted to do. It doesnt lie. Not wanting to vote day 1 is -ev. I know if I hadnt forgotten about this game I would have voted d1. I would have voted you.This is a bunch of contrived reasoning.
If you're going to try and side sus me like this, grow a pair and come out and attack me.
All I see in this is you saying why people are not town and woe is you. No solving, no town finding. I am back to voting you again.
I dont know why but when ever I see your wall posts I just think "wow, that has accomplished nothing and takes up a lot of my screen space" but hey maybe its just our playstyle differencesVote: Wintermoot
As I said before, hesitation to vote on day 1 isn't specific to me, it's part of the traditional Wintreath mindset to avoid killing off a townie at the very start of the game. Agree or don't agree with the mindset, but it's weird to attack me over our forum's Werewolf culture. Especially weird coming from someone who's benefitting from not being involved in day 1 at all.
Nowhere when I was explaining the situation I was in was I nearly as defensive as you. I just pointed out that you weren't around. Why so defensive? Is what I said untrue?
If you don't like my posts, you don't have to read them. :)
Oh you really dont know me. Its not helpful at all to share but I have forced a rand on myself as wolf to win the rand and win the game. I lost the rand of course. But hey if I did win the rand that game was in the bag. So anyone in this game will tell you that is a dangerous line of thought.I suppose I should quantify that then to say that it was never a thing in our traditional Wintreath games...most of our players were respectful and courteous in their actions and words toward each other, minus a few cases where things got heated.
But luckily I am town this game so we can ignore it
Post by: Grace on January 23, 2024, 04:51:14 PM
Someone fill me on the latest stuff
Post by: Wintermoot on January 23, 2024, 05:05:59 PM
Who do you think are the last 2 mafia and why?I don't know...if I had any concrete ideas on certain people, would I be in this position? :P
But it seems to me that there are a few different categories of people at this point: people who voted and stuck with Projekt Red (myself and Bellapi), people who voted and stuck with Sugar Moon (you), people who changed their vote between the two (Rem, ExLight, Oricorio, and and Abbi), and people who didn't do day one and suddenly showed up today (Grace and RondoDimBuckle).
I asked about enforcement of the minimum post requirement in part because I'm wondering if there was host pressure on those two to come to the game or be removed from it, which would at least explain why they suddenly showed up. If there was no enforcement then it just looks like they suddenly showed up when it was more convenient to start playing, and that's not a good look.
Of those who switched votes, some seem to have had compelling reasons to do so, but most of that was the musical chairs played at the end of the round and it's mostly happenstance that they ended up landing where they did. Hard to know one way or another from that, but what good cover to be able to say that you voted for both of them to keep things nearly tied up?
As I mentioned before, Bellapi and I seem to have been in agreement about Sugar Moon, but I don't think that's suspicious, and I'll take him at his word that he's sick and that's why he hasn't been around since. Though given how things have gone that might be naive...I can say in Wintreath games that would be accepted without question, but there's obviously serious disconnects between how we played the game and how most people here do. In that at least this game has been illuminating.
And then there's you, the fortunate one who stuck with Sugar Moon most of the game. :P
If I were forced to rank suspicion, I'd start with the people who suddenly showed up, then look at the people who switched votes repeatedly at the end of the last round.
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 05:36:30 PM
Post by: Wintermoot on January 23, 2024, 05:40:25 PM
I've noticed people have a tendency to make bursts of short posts in a row, and I initially thought it was to easy reach the minimum post count, but now I'm wondering if it's more a cultural thing.
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 05:45:12 PM
Actually idk if majority rule applies hereMajority applied once day 2 started.
Vote: Unvote
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 05:45:42 PM
I'm curious, are in-depth posts not a thing else where? I don't consider anything I've posted to be giant or a wall of text...they're actually short by NationStates standards.Depends on the person, I don't do them. I like small and concise posts myself.
I've noticed people have a tendency to make bursts of short posts in a row, and I initially thought it was to easy reach the minimum post count, but now I'm wondering if it's more a cultural thing.
Post by: Grace on January 23, 2024, 06:41:53 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 08:16:57 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 08:17:52 PM
Right here I see several paragraphs of nothing. Can you actually give me two GTH wolf reads here?Who do you think are the last 2 mafia and why?I don't know...if I had any concrete ideas on certain people, would I be in this position? :P
But it seems to me that there are a few different categories of people at this point: people who voted and stuck with Projekt Red (myself and Bellapi), people who voted and stuck with Sugar Moon (you), people who changed their vote between the two (Rem, ExLight, Oricorio, and and Abbi), and people who didn't do day one and suddenly showed up today (Grace and RondoDimBuckle).
I asked about enforcement of the minimum post requirement in part because I'm wondering if there was host pressure on those two to come to the game or be removed from it, which would at least explain why they suddenly showed up. If there was no enforcement then it just looks like they suddenly showed up when it was more convenient to start playing, and that's not a good look.
Of those who switched votes, some seem to have had compelling reasons to do so, but most of that was the musical chairs played at the end of the round and it's mostly happenstance that they ended up landing where they did. Hard to know one way or another from that, but what good cover to be able to say that you voted for both of them to keep things nearly tied up?
As I mentioned before, Bellapi and I seem to have been in agreement about Sugar Moon, but I don't think that's suspicious, and I'll take him at his word that he's sick and that's why he hasn't been around since. Though given how things have gone that might be naive...I can say in Wintreath games that would be accepted without question, but there's obviously serious disconnects between how we played the game and how most people here do. In that at least this game has been illuminating.
And then there's you, the fortunate one who stuck with Sugar Moon most of the game. :P
If I were forced to rank suspicion, I'd start with the people who suddenly showed up, then look at the people who switched votes repeatedly at the end of the last round.
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 08:19:36 PM
You say you're "hesitant" to vote D1 (lame) yet you still voted. Can you explain in 1-2 sentences why you chose to vote Projekt over Moon, or why you chose to vote at all?Dont like voting day 1? You dont like giving information to town? Voting day 1 is the most important because it shows what you wanted to do. It doesnt lie. Not wanting to vote day 1 is -ev. I know if I hadnt forgotten about this game I would have voted d1. I would have voted you.This is a bunch of contrived reasoning.
If you're going to try and side sus me like this, grow a pair and come out and attack me.
All I see in this is you saying why people are not town and woe is you. No solving, no town finding. I am back to voting you again.
I dont know why but when ever I see your wall posts I just think "wow, that has accomplished nothing and takes up a lot of my screen space" but hey maybe its just our playstyle differencesVote: Wintermoot
As I said before, hesitation to vote on day 1 isn't specific to me, it's part of the traditional Wintreath mindset to avoid killing off a townie at the very start of the game. Agree or don't agree with the mindset, but it's weird to attack me over our forum's Werewolf culture. Especially weird coming from someone who's benefitting from not being involved in day 1 at all.
Nowhere when I was explaining the situation I was in was I nearly as defensive as you. I just pointed out that you weren't around. Why so defensive? Is what I said untrue?
If you don't like my posts, you don't have to read them. :)Oh you really dont know me. Its not helpful at all to share but I have forced a rand on myself as wolf to win the rand and win the game. I lost the rand of course. But hey if I did win the rand that game was in the bag. So anyone in this game will tell you that is a dangerous line of thought.I suppose I should quantify that then to say that it was never a thing in our traditional Wintreath games...most of our players were respectful and courteous in their actions and words toward each other, minus a few cases where things got heated.
But luckily I am town this game so we can ignore it
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 08:32:16 PM
1.good chance of being pushed by scum
2.not been very useful game wise
3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration
but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2
bellepi is okayish i guess
rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.
the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people
I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something
and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 08:39:53 PM
for science
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 09:36:31 PM
Considering a wolf no voted yesterday not a fan that winter didnt vote early considering he is on the chopping block, Belle not voting is also intersting. MR cmon man, Loona at least voted d1 but has posted so could have voted
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 09:42:18 PM
Actually idk if majority rule applies hereits 6
Vote: Unvote
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 09:48:27 PM
Interesting that you read it as defensive. I like to think of it as proactive attack on a wolf tryin to sus me.Dont like voting day 1? You dont like giving information to town? Voting day 1 is the most important because it shows what you wanted to do. It doesnt lie. Not wanting to vote day 1 is -ev. I know if I hadnt forgotten about this game I would have voted d1. I would have voted you.This is a bunch of contrived reasoning.
If you're going to try and side sus me like this, grow a pair and come out and attack me.
All I see in this is you saying why people are not town and woe is you. No solving, no town finding. I am back to voting you again.
I dont know why but when ever I see your wall posts I just think "wow, that has accomplished nothing and takes up a lot of my screen space" but hey maybe its just our playstyle differencesVote: Wintermoot
As I said before, hesitation to vote on day 1 isn't specific to me, it's part of the traditional Wintreath mindset to avoid killing off a townie at the very start of the game. Agree or don't agree with the mindset, but it's weird to attack me over our forum's Werewolf culture. Especially weird coming from someone who's benefitting from not being involved in day 1 at all.
Nowhere when I was explaining the situation I was in was I nearly as defensive as you. I just pointed out that you weren't around. Why so defensive? Is what I said untrue?
If you don't like my posts, you don't have to read them. :)Oh you really dont know me. Its not helpful at all to share but I have forced a rand on myself as wolf to win the rand and win the game. I lost the rand of course. But hey if I did win the rand that game was in the bag. So anyone in this game will tell you that is a dangerous line of thought.I suppose I should quantify that then to say that it was never a thing in our traditional Wintreath games...most of our players were respectful and courteous in their actions and words toward each other, minus a few cases where things got heated.
But luckily I am town this game so we can ignore it
Thats a lie, we are in the game together, I have to sort you. If I dont ready our posts I cant do that. This doesnt match with the game.
You have yet to give me anyone to vote over you.
I find that a little friction helps my solving process. I dont have anything specifically against you. I just want to play with my spikey gloves on this game.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 09:48:59 PM
read
Someone fill me on the latest stuff
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 09:54:02 PM
Where is Master Radishes?Who do you think are the last 2 mafia and why?I don't know...if I had any concrete ideas on certain people, would I be in this position? :P
But it seems to me that there are a few different categories of people at this point: people who voted and stuck with Projekt Red (myself and Bellapi), people who voted and stuck with Sugar Moon (you), people who changed their vote between the two (Rem, ExLight, Oricorio, and and Abbi), and people who didn't do day one and suddenly showed up today (Grace and RondoDimBuckle).
I asked about enforcement of the minimum post requirement in part because I'm wondering if there was host pressure on those two to come to the game or be removed from it, which would at least explain why they suddenly showed up. If there was no enforcement then it just looks like they suddenly showed up when it was more convenient to start playing, and that's not a good look.
Of those who switched votes, some seem to have had compelling reasons to do so, but most of that was the musical chairs played at the end of the round and it's mostly happenstance that they ended up landing where they did. Hard to know one way or another from that, but what good cover to be able to say that you voted for both of them to keep things nearly tied up?
As I mentioned before, Bellapi and I seem to have been in agreement about Sugar Moon, but I don't think that's suspicious, and I'll take him at his word that he's sick and that's why he hasn't been around since. Though given how things have gone that might be naive...I can say in Wintreath games that would be accepted without question, but there's obviously serious disconnects between how we played the game and how most people here do. In that at least this game has been illuminating.
And then there's you, the fortunate one who stuck with Sugar Moon most of the game. :P
If I were forced to rank suspicion, I'd start with the people who suddenly showed up, then look at the people who switched votes repeatedly at the end of the last round.
This is angle shooting at best and wolfy reaching for low hanging fruit at worst. There is no way to tell why we were gone. I can tell you it was because I literally didnt know the game had started and had to be poked by the host. But I could also be a lying wolf. So instead, why not talk about my content from today? I have already said for not a lot that it was worth I would have voted you d1, its a majority of the reason I am voting you d2 (It also helps that I see you as compatible with sugar)
It is a common thing in syndicate that some people (Myself and Neon) Like to force ties closer to EOD. It isnt neccicaryly good behaviour but Its helpful to see who changes up the wagon
Again there is no conclusion to this post. This is what I have pointed out as my issue all day. You have talked about everyone but you have not at any point said "this person is who we should be voting instead of me"
Post by: ExLight on January 23, 2024, 09:54:14 PM
I think wintermoot hasI legit don't understand why you think either me or loona are scum when we both were the critical people in pushing for the sugar moon lynch
1.good chance of being pushed by scum
2.not been very useful game wise
3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration
but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2
bellepi is okayish i guess
rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.
the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people
I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something
and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 09:56:36 PM
I'm curious, are in-depth posts not a thing else where? I don't consider anything I've posted to be giant or a wall of text...they're actually short by NationStates standards.I wouldnt say they are not a thing. But they tend to directly acuse people or point to difinitive outcomes or push a frame of mind that explains a worldview.
I've noticed people have a tendency to make bursts of short posts in a row, and I initially thought it was to easy reach the minimum post count, but now I'm wondering if it's more a cultural thing.
Post by: ExLight on January 23, 2024, 09:56:54 PM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 09:58:39 PM
Wint I'll reply to ur giant post after I'm free.
I'm curious, are in-depth posts not a thing else where? I don't consider anything I've posted to be giant or a wall of text...they're actually short by NationStates standards.Depends on the person, I don't do them. I like small and concise posts myself.
I've noticed people have a tendency to make bursts of short posts in a row, and I initially thought it was to easy reach the minimum post count, but now I'm wondering if it's more a cultural thing.
Soo I have seen you post after the original post I have highlighted and yet no response.Actually idk if majority rule applies hereMajority applied once day 2 started.
Vote: Unvote
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:00:08 PM
Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:01:15 PM
Actually, I take it back, but also kinda not. Its very late in the day to try and effect the lynch. But I guess its important to know who his wolf reads are if he flips townRight here I see several paragraphs of nothing. Can you actually give me two GTH wolf reads here?Who do you think are the last 2 mafia and why?I don't know...if I had any concrete ideas on certain people, would I be in this position? :P
But it seems to me that there are a few different categories of people at this point: people who voted and stuck with Projekt Red (myself and Bellapi), people who voted and stuck with Sugar Moon (you), people who changed their vote between the two (Rem, ExLight, Oricorio, and and Abbi), and people who didn't do day one and suddenly showed up today (Grace and RondoDimBuckle).
I asked about enforcement of the minimum post requirement in part because I'm wondering if there was host pressure on those two to come to the game or be removed from it, which would at least explain why they suddenly showed up. If there was no enforcement then it just looks like they suddenly showed up when it was more convenient to start playing, and that's not a good look.
Of those who switched votes, some seem to have had compelling reasons to do so, but most of that was the musical chairs played at the end of the round and it's mostly happenstance that they ended up landing where they did. Hard to know one way or another from that, but what good cover to be able to say that you voted for both of them to keep things nearly tied up?
As I mentioned before, Bellapi and I seem to have been in agreement about Sugar Moon, but I don't think that's suspicious, and I'll take him at his word that he's sick and that's why he hasn't been around since. Though given how things have gone that might be naive...I can say in Wintreath games that would be accepted without question, but there's obviously serious disconnects between how we played the game and how most people here do. In that at least this game has been illuminating.
And then there's you, the fortunate one who stuck with Sugar Moon most of the game. :P
If I were forced to rank suspicion, I'd start with the people who suddenly showed up, then look at the people who switched votes repeatedly at the end of the last round.
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:04:45 PM
No Vote (Never Voted): Wintermoot, Bellepi, Master Radishes, LoonaI wasn't going to vote while I was busy.
Considering a wolf no voted yesterday not a fan that winter didnt vote early considering he is on the chopping block, Belle not voting is also intersting. MR cmon man, Loona at least voted d1 but has posted so could have voted
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:05:31 PM
I think wintermoot hasWintermoot: 3 (RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
1.good chance of being pushed by scum
2.not been very useful game wise
3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration
but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2
bellepi is okayish i guess
rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.
the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people
I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something
and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX
You were also on the wagon.
So you are saying
A) PR Claim is scum
B) One of the two people who voted out a wolf when you didnt is scum
C) You are scum
D) Someone else who has been pushing winter but not voting them is scum, who?
I havent gotten any cooperation why would I cooperate? This is a game of working together. The only tool I have is my cooperation. If I cooperate with you without you cooperating with me its a one sided exchange.
Town has to work together. It doesnt mean we have to play nice.
Why cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/you
If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.
What has you so confident winter is town?
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:06:32 PM
Vote: ExLightwhat is the science here? There is no way exlite is going over. I tried to push them earlier today and you didnt join then. why are you trying to push them now?
for science
Why are you trying to change the wagon off winter?
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:08:06 PM
would appreciate if cait poked some inactive people privatelywould appreciate if you shared your worldview. Who is town, who are the last two wolves?
In fact would appreciate that from everyone.
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:08:27 PM
I was reading from a prior page, I am just now reading these. Don't try to angle shoot what I choose to reply to because it means nothing, I reply to what I see and feel like replying to.Wint I'll reply to ur giant post after I'm free.I'm curious, are in-depth posts not a thing else where? I don't consider anything I've posted to be giant or a wall of text...they're actually short by NationStates standards.Depends on the person, I don't do them. I like small and concise posts myself.
I've noticed people have a tendency to make bursts of short posts in a row, and I initially thought it was to easy reach the minimum post count, but now I'm wondering if it's more a cultural thing.Soo I have seen you post after the original post I have highlighted and yet no response.Actually idk if majority rule applies hereMajority applied once day 2 started.
Vote: Unvote
As for Wint, I do agree the discussion of angle shooting bs is so awkward given their position. Since you are correct it's makes the slot look fucking horrendous.
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:09:29 PM
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:09:47 PM
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:12:19 PM
Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:15:22 PM
Why cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/youMy issue is I don't understand where your building these worlds from, like ignoring the fact you scum read winter which is a viable read, why us 3 as the connections? Mind you hard town read Rem and slikghtly town read exlight.
If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.
What has you so confident winter is town?
So I am having a hard time believing your winter worlds if the 3 people you suspect just dont feel like vioable options.
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 10:17:14 PM
L-2 is the point where a wolf rush could cause a hammer here (assuming no wolves already on Winter) so it's wise to be cautiousActually idk if majority rule applies hereits 6
Vote: Unvote
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:17:30 PM
the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:18:39 PM
again its important you let Rem answer the questions I ask Rem.Why cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/youMy issue is I don't understand where your building these worlds from, like ignoring the fact you scum read winter which is a viable read, why us 3 as the connections? Mind you hard town read Rem and slikghtly town read exlight.
If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.
What has you so confident winter is town?
So I am having a hard time believing your winter worlds if the 3 people you suspect just dont feel like vioable options.
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:20:38 PM
Im not answering the questions for ori? I am commenting on a post that I have questions about myself. Your high and mightyness may scare others off on synidcate but it doesn't much towards me.the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
You ask alot of questions what what you plan to do with all these answers, do you think ori is scum? According to prior posts you don't seem to think ori fits in a world with winter.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:20:48 PM
lol if wolves rush today they are outing and game is over. So let themL-2 is the point where a wolf rush could cause a hammer here (assuming no wolves already on Winter) so it's wise to be cautiousActually idk if majority rule applies hereits 6
Vote: Unvote
Post by: ExLight on January 23, 2024, 10:20:53 PM
My view on players based on the previous EoD hasn't changed since start of Daywould appreciate if cait poked some inactive people privatelywould appreciate if you shared your worldview. Who is town, who are the last two wolves?
In fact would appreciate that from everyone.
Not much really happened in thread either too tbf
Rem and Abbi are ambiguous. Rem has moments where them being active and trying to push for discussion seems townie but their insistence on me and Loona who are some of the ones that look the best along Oricorio after the Sugar flip is bizarre.
I don't like moot's explanation for voting Red yesterday and I think it can easily be scum trying to pull off the mislynch, so that's why I'm staying in them
not much opinion on most inactives other than they need to go at some point
Me, Loona, Oricorio, and preciously Red are the obvious townclears to me
Your slot is fine, I think you're a bit rude but it's not necessarily scummy. You seem to be calling out some stuff that I been noticing with and I think that comes from a townie view. I also like that you seem to be pushing people to ask for their views while sharing yours first too.
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 10:21:08 PM
I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to a Bellepi wagon, with a similar argument to D1 where Projekt was fighting for their life and Sugar wasn't. Still, Winter's posts this phase don't have nearly the same energy as Projekt's did.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
The one thing that's a little concerning is the wagons' staticity today, which does suggest DADV. Then again, given the state of the game, it wouldn't be too surprising if the wolf team was so demotivated that it's dead air dead wolf.
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:21:49 PM
The fact that rondo doesn't notice this and you do says alot about both of your alignments. You and Rem have been the only too that have shown concern about putting a slot into L2.L-2 is the point where a wolf rush could cause a hammer here (assuming no wolves already on Winter) so it's wise to be cautiousActually idk if majority rule applies hereits 6
Vote: Unvote
Post by: ExLight on January 23, 2024, 10:22:30 PM
it's not his worldsWhy cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/youMy issue is I don't understand where your building these worlds from, like ignoring the fact you scum read winter which is a viable read, why us 3 as the connections? Mind you hard town read Rem and slikghtly town read exlight.
If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.
What has you so confident winter is town?
So I am having a hard time believing your winter worlds if the 3 people you suspect just dont feel like vioable options.
I believe he's asking rem why rem is pushing for us two and ignoring analyzing any possible worlds with us and moot
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 10:22:33 PM
Never underestimate town's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.lol if wolves rush today they are outing and game is over. So let themL-2 is the point where a wolf rush could cause a hammer here (assuming no wolves already on Winter) so it's wise to be cautiousActually idk if majority rule applies hereits 6
Vote: Unvote
Post by: ExLight on January 23, 2024, 10:23:31 PM
even if we had more time hammering would only draw attention to them lol
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:25:24 PM
Scum hunt, obviously. I think 1 on the sugar wagon is scum. I think 1 off the sugar wagon is scum. It is likely that wolves are invested in the game so unlikely to be the AFK's so its likely that one of winter, rem and bell is a wolf and their interactions dont preclude that. Someone had to try and save sugar or the game gets incredibly hard for wolves.Im not answering the questions for ori? I am commenting on a post that I have questions about myself. Your high and mightyness may scare others off on synidcate but it doesn't much towards me.the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
You ask alot of questions what what you plan to do with all these answers, do you think ori is scum? According to prior posts you don't seem to think ori fits in a world with winter.
Someone had to bus for cred because then they can say "I was on wagon of a wolf" and get all the low hanging fruit who didnt vote d1 killed.
I am operating with several world views at all times because I am trying to find the one that fits.
But again I am not going to talk to you about questions I ask other people when they havent answered the original question yet.
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:25:30 PM
Oh that wording is awful if thats the case, because I read that as if those reads were rondos.it's not his worldsWhy cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/youMy issue is I don't understand where your building these worlds from, like ignoring the fact you scum read winter which is a viable read, why us 3 as the connections? Mind you hard town read Rem and slikghtly town read exlight.
If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.
What has you so confident winter is town?
So I am having a hard time believing your winter worlds if the 3 people you suspect just dont feel like vioable options.
I believe he's asking rem why rem is pushing for us two and ignoring analyzing any possible worlds with us and moot
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 10:26:14 PM
why would anyone care if wolf hammered when we're less than an hour away from EoDEoD is typically when town is most active. Maybe I'm holding out too much hope that town will stop slanking
even if we had more time hammering would only draw attention to them lol
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:27:00 PM
If you think someone had to bus for credit it was certainly abi, if you follow how they handled eod its obvious. And no idc about some meta between you two where you like to tie votes because that is mute here.Scum hunt, obviously. I think 1 on the sugar wagon is scum. I think 1 off the sugar wagon is scum. It is likely that wolves are invested in the game so unlikely to be the AFK's so its likely that one of winter, rem and bell is a wolf and their interactions dont preclude that. Someone had to try and save sugar or the game gets incredibly hard for wolves.Im not answering the questions for ori? I am commenting on a post that I have questions about myself. Your high and mightyness may scare others off on synidcate but it doesn't much towards me.the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
You ask alot of questions what what you plan to do with all these answers, do you think ori is scum? According to prior posts you don't seem to think ori fits in a world with winter.
Someone had to bus for cred because then they can say "I was on wagon of a wolf" and get all the low hanging fruit who didnt vote d1 killed.
I am operating with several world views at all times because I am trying to find the one that fits.
But again I am not going to talk to you about questions I ask other people when they havent answered the original question yet.
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 10:27:48 PM
All this assumes that wolves were around at EoD. How is that a safe assumption when there were so many slankers, including the one that flipped?Scum hunt, obviously. I think 1 on the sugar wagon is scum. I think 1 off the sugar wagon is scum. It is likely that wolves are invested in the game so unlikely to be the AFK's so its likely that one of winter, rem and bell is a wolf and their interactions dont preclude that. Someone had to try and save sugar or the game gets incredibly hard for wolves.Im not answering the questions for ori? I am commenting on a post that I have questions about myself. Your high and mightyness may scare others off on synidcate but it doesn't much towards me.the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
You ask alot of questions what what you plan to do with all these answers, do you think ori is scum? According to prior posts you don't seem to think ori fits in a world with winter.
Someone had to bus for cred because then they can say "I was on wagon of a wolf" and get all the low hanging fruit who didnt vote d1 killed.
I am operating with several world views at all times because I am trying to find the one that fits.
But again I am not going to talk to you about questions I ask other people when they havent answered the original question yet.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:27:53 PM
damn the first good post. consider me pocketedMy view on players based on the previous EoD hasn't changed since start of Daywould appreciate if cait poked some inactive people privatelywould appreciate if you shared your worldview. Who is town, who are the last two wolves?
In fact would appreciate that from everyone.
Not much really happened in thread either too tbf
Rem and Abbi are ambiguous. Rem has moments where them being active and trying to push for discussion seems townie but their insistence on me and Loona who are some of the ones that look the best along Oricorio after the Sugar flip is bizarre.
I don't like moot's explanation for voting Red yesterday and I think it can easily be scum trying to pull off the mislynch, so that's why I'm staying in them
not much opinion on most inactives other than they need to go at some point
Me, Loona, Oricorio, and preciously Red are the obvious townclears to me
Your slot is fine, I think you're a bit rude but it's not necessarily scummy. You seem to be calling out some stuff that I been noticing with and I think that comes from a townie view. I also like that you seem to be pushing people to ask for their views while sharing yours first too.
Post by: ExLight on January 23, 2024, 10:28:21 PM
yea I think the slank is too strong specially after we comfortably got scum D1why would anyone care if wolf hammered when we're less than an hour away from EoDEoD is typically when town is most active. Maybe I'm holding out too much hope that town will stop slanking
even if we had more time hammering would only draw attention to them lol
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:29:12 PM
what about just both wolves being winter and belle? or winter and rem?I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to a Bellepi wagon, with a similar argument to D1 where Projekt was fighting for their life and Sugar wasn't. Still, Winter's posts this phase don't have nearly the same energy as Projekt's did.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
The one thing that's a little concerning is the wagons' staticity today, which does suggest DADV. Then again, given the state of the game, it wouldn't be too surprising if the wolf team was so demotivated that it's dead air dead wolf.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:29:29 PM
EBWOPwhat about just both wolves being winter and belle? or winter and rem? or bell and rem?I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to a Bellepi wagon, with a similar argument to D1 where Projekt was fighting for their life and Sugar wasn't. Still, Winter's posts this phase don't have nearly the same energy as Projekt's did.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
The one thing that's a little concerning is the wagons' staticity today, which does suggest DADV. Then again, given the state of the game, it wouldn't be too surprising if the wolf team was so demotivated that it's dead air dead wolf.
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:30:55 PM
All in all I just think Radish is a slanking town and dont wanna touch him yet. While grace has shown the will to be active and hasn't done much with their posts.
Post by: Wintermoot on January 23, 2024, 10:31:33 PM
This games too complicated right now for me, I will start gaming tomorrow i pwomise
Vote: Grace
It's bad enough not participating on day one, but day one and day two? Do you think it's going to be any easier to get started on day 3? This being around but not saying or doing anything is by far the most suspicious thing to me...you're here, but you're not here. At least everyone else who hasn't been active at one point has been at some other point. Except for Master Radish, who I admit I completely forgot about. But even then, there's a difference between being inactive and just being around.
You say you're "hesitant" to vote D1 (lame) yet you still voted. Can you explain in 1-2 sentences why you chose to vote Projekt over Moon, or why you chose to vote at all?I've already explained this. I had to make a 10th post, because I assumed that anyone who hadn't met the post requirement would be removed at the end of the day, and I felt it would be even worse if I posted at the last minute but didn't vote, especially after so many people posted that they believed not voting on the first day was bad, and I felt throwing a vote on anyone who was obviously not going to be voted off would be just as badly taken. I voted for Red because I felt like Moon was legitimately inactive for the last half of the day and didn't have a chance to defend or even vote for anyone. I thought there was a good chance that the contradictions Rem brought up were misunderstandings that would probably be resolved if they had been around to reply to them.
Right here I see several paragraphs of nothing. Can you actually give me two GTH wolf reads here?Grace, who I've already voted for, and if there were a gun to my head, I guess Abbi. Maybe Bellapi if you believe his saying he's sick is a ploy. I strongly feel that at least one of the wolves is flying under the radar, which would be easy to do since there's so many people driving the game in some way right now. Master Radish hasn't been on the forums at all in three days, so they're probably not keeping up with anything, and most of the other players besides a few like Bellapi and myself have been extremely active. One wolf being less noticeable and one being out in front as a game driver would be a potent combination, I think, but there's so many game drivers right now...
2.not been very useful game wiseProbably true, lol. I have been reminded why I don't play these games.
Interesting that you read it as defensive. I like to think of it as proactive attack on a wolf tryin to sus me.I read it as an overreaction to pointing out an obvious fact, which comes off as defensive.
Thats a lie, we are in the game together, I have to sort you. If I dont ready our posts I cant do that. This doesnt match with the game.
You have yet to give me anyone to vote over you.
I find that a little friction helps my solving process. I dont have anything specifically against you. I just want to play with my spikey gloves on this game.
It's not a lie, and if you're willing to read posts that seem to pain you so, then they must not be too bad after all. :P
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:32:25 PM
moot* But I take your pointIf you think someone had to bus for credit it was certainly abi, if you follow how they handled eod its obvious. And no idc about some meta between you two where you like to tie votes because that is mute here.Scum hunt, obviously. I think 1 on the sugar wagon is scum. I think 1 off the sugar wagon is scum. It is likely that wolves are invested in the game so unlikely to be the AFK's so its likely that one of winter, rem and bell is a wolf and their interactions dont preclude that. Someone had to try and save sugar or the game gets incredibly hard for wolves.Im not answering the questions for ori? I am commenting on a post that I have questions about myself. Your high and mightyness may scare others off on synidcate but it doesn't much towards me.the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
You ask alot of questions what what you plan to do with all these answers, do you think ori is scum? According to prior posts you don't seem to think ori fits in a world with winter.
Someone had to bus for cred because then they can say "I was on wagon of a wolf" and get all the low hanging fruit who didnt vote d1 killed.
I am operating with several world views at all times because I am trying to find the one that fits.
But again I am not going to talk to you about questions I ask other people when they havent answered the original question yet.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:33:13 PM
sure then we just chop the slankers and they go byebye and we win the game. Which do you think is more likely?All this assumes that wolves were around at EoD. How is that a safe assumption when there were so many slankers, including the one that flipped?Scum hunt, obviously. I think 1 on the sugar wagon is scum. I think 1 off the sugar wagon is scum. It is likely that wolves are invested in the game so unlikely to be the AFK's so its likely that one of winter, rem and bell is a wolf and their interactions dont preclude that. Someone had to try and save sugar or the game gets incredibly hard for wolves.Im not answering the questions for ori? I am commenting on a post that I have questions about myself. Your high and mightyness may scare others off on synidcate but it doesn't much towards me.the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
You ask alot of questions what what you plan to do with all these answers, do you think ori is scum? According to prior posts you don't seem to think ori fits in a world with winter.
Someone had to bus for cred because then they can say "I was on wagon of a wolf" and get all the low hanging fruit who didnt vote d1 killed.
I am operating with several world views at all times because I am trying to find the one that fits.
But again I am not going to talk to you about questions I ask other people when they havent answered the original question yet.
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 10:36:21 PM
busing and afk frozen teammate is not out of the question, I'm just entertaining the possibilityI think wintermoot hasI legit don't understand why you think either me or loona are scum when we both were the critical people in pushing for the sugar moon lynch
1.good chance of being pushed by scum
2.not been very useful game wise
3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration
but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2
bellepi is okayish i guess
rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.
the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people
I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something
and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 10:36:27 PM
Given the EoD, I think it's likely that the wolf partners were unable to save Moon. Still, I guess the problem with Winter is that they fit in both "slankers" and "people around at EoD"sure then we just chop the slankers and they go byebye and we win the game. Which do you think is more likely?All this assumes that wolves were around at EoD. How is that a safe assumption when there were so many slankers, including the one that flipped?Scum hunt, obviously. I think 1 on the sugar wagon is scum. I think 1 off the sugar wagon is scum. It is likely that wolves are invested in the game so unlikely to be the AFK's so its likely that one of winter, rem and bell is a wolf and their interactions dont preclude that. Someone had to try and save sugar or the game gets incredibly hard for wolves.Im not answering the questions for ori? I am commenting on a post that I have questions about myself. Your high and mightyness may scare others off on synidcate but it doesn't much towards me.the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
You ask alot of questions what what you plan to do with all these answers, do you think ori is scum? According to prior posts you don't seem to think ori fits in a world with winter.
Someone had to bus for cred because then they can say "I was on wagon of a wolf" and get all the low hanging fruit who didnt vote d1 killed.
I am operating with several world views at all times because I am trying to find the one that fits.
But again I am not going to talk to you about questions I ask other people when they havent answered the original question yet.
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:37:04 PM
Winter your posts about activity worry me cause it feels like you were concerned about making it but you put alot of consideration into red over the person who actually flipped werewolf. Grace may just be mafia who is frozen at this point.This games too complicated right now for me, I will start gaming tomorrow i pwomise
Vote: Grace
It's bad enough not participating on day one, but day one and day two? Do you think it's going to be any easier to get started on day 3? This being around but not saying or doing anything is by far the most suspicious thing to me...you're here, but you're not here. At least everyone else who hasn't been active at one point has been at some other point. Except for Master Radish, who I admit I completely forgot about. But even then, there's a difference between being inactive and just being around.You say you're "hesitant" to vote D1 (lame) yet you still voted. Can you explain in 1-2 sentences why you chose to vote Projekt over Moon, or why you chose to vote at all?I've already explained this. I had to make a 10th post, because I assumed that anyone who hadn't met the post requirement would be removed at the end of the day, and I felt it would be even worse if I posted at the last minute but didn't vote, especially after so many people posted that they believed not voting on the first day was bad, and I felt throwing a vote on anyone who was obviously not going to be voted off would be just as badly taken. I voted for Red because I felt like Moon was legitimately inactive for the last half of the day and didn't have a chance to defend or even vote for anyone. I thought there was a good chance that the contradictions Rem brought up were misunderstandings that would probably be resolved if they had been around to reply to them.Right here I see several paragraphs of nothing. Can you actually give me two GTH wolf reads here?Grace, who I've already voted for, and if there were a gun to my head, I guess Abbi. Maybe Bellapi if you believe his saying he's sick is a ploy. I strongly feel that at least one of the wolves is flying under the radar, which would be easy to do since there's so many people driving the game in some way right now. Master Radish hasn't been on the forums at all in three days, so they're probably not keeping up with anything, and most of the other players besides a few like Bellapi and myself have been extremely active. One wolf being less noticeable and one being out in front as a game driver would be a potent combination, I think, but there's so many game drivers right now...2.not been very useful game wiseProbably true, lol. I have been reminded why I don't play these games.Interesting that you read it as defensive. I like to think of it as proactive attack on a wolf tryin to sus me.I read it as an overreaction to pointing out an obvious fact, which comes off as defensive.
Thats a lie, we are in the game together, I have to sort you. If I dont ready our posts I cant do that. This doesnt match with the game.
You have yet to give me anyone to vote over you.
I find that a little friction helps my solving process. I dont have anything specifically against you. I just want to play with my spikey gloves on this game.
It's not a lie, and if you're willing to read posts that seem to pain you so, then they must not be too bad after all. :P
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:37:58 PM
How was my vote a bus? I literally am the leading vote on that train.busing and afk frozen teammate is not out of the question, I'm just entertaining the possibilityI think wintermoot hasI legit don't understand why you think either me or loona are scum when we both were the critical people in pushing for the sugar moon lynch
1.good chance of being pushed by scum
2.not been very useful game wise
3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration
but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2
bellepi is okayish i guess
rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.
the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people
I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something
and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:38:17 PM
So who would you list as the wolf team given this world view?Given the EoD, I think it's likely that the wolf partners were unable to save Moon. Still, I guess the problem with Winter is that they fit in both "slankers" and "people around at EoD"sure then we just chop the slankers and they go byebye and we win the game. Which do you think is more likely?All this assumes that wolves were around at EoD. How is that a safe assumption when there were so many slankers, including the one that flipped?Scum hunt, obviously. I think 1 on the sugar wagon is scum. I think 1 off the sugar wagon is scum. It is likely that wolves are invested in the game so unlikely to be the AFK's so its likely that one of winter, rem and bell is a wolf and their interactions dont preclude that. Someone had to try and save sugar or the game gets incredibly hard for wolves.Im not answering the questions for ori? I am commenting on a post that I have questions about myself. Your high and mightyness may scare others off on synidcate but it doesn't much towards me.the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
You ask alot of questions what what you plan to do with all these answers, do you think ori is scum? According to prior posts you don't seem to think ori fits in a world with winter.
Someone had to bus for cred because then they can say "I was on wagon of a wolf" and get all the low hanging fruit who didnt vote d1 killed.
I am operating with several world views at all times because I am trying to find the one that fits.
But again I am not going to talk to you about questions I ask other people when they havent answered the original question yet.
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 10:39:38 PM
I'm not confident winter is townI think wintermoot hasWintermoot: 3 (RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
1.good chance of being pushed by scum
2.not been very useful game wise
3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration
but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2
bellepi is okayish i guess
rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.
the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people
I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something
and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX
You were also on the wagon.
So you are saying
A) PR Claim is scum
B) One of the two people who voted out a wolf when you didnt is scum
C) You are scum
D) Someone else who has been pushing winter but not voting them is scum, who?
I havent gotten any cooperation why would I cooperate? This is a game of working together. The only tool I have is my cooperation. If I cooperate with you without you cooperating with me its a one sided exchange.
Town has to work together. It doesnt mean we have to play nice.
Why cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/you
If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.
What has you so confident winter is town?
logic is, for the same reason one does not kill someone in their own house, given the option, killing red projekt would look like framing oricorio and winter as wolves trying to save Sugar
that's level 0 thinking, arguably I could see winter playing level 0 trying to protect a teammate
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 10:40:02 PM
am I voting you?How was my vote a bus? I literally am the leading vote on that train.busing and afk frozen teammate is not out of the question, I'm just entertaining the possibilityI think wintermoot hasI legit don't understand why you think either me or loona are scum when we both were the critical people in pushing for the sugar moon lynch
1.good chance of being pushed by scum
2.not been very useful game wise
3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration
but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2
bellepi is okayish i guess
rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.
the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people
I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something
and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX
Post by: Oricorio on January 23, 2024, 10:40:04 PM
Hard to tell. The problem with slankers is that they don't exactly give you much to work with.So who would you list as the wolf team given this world view?Given the EoD, I think it's likely that the wolf partners were unable to save Moon. Still, I guess the problem with Winter is that they fit in both "slankers" and "people around at EoD"sure then we just chop the slankers and they go byebye and we win the game. Which do you think is more likely?All this assumes that wolves were around at EoD. How is that a safe assumption when there were so many slankers, including the one that flipped?Scum hunt, obviously. I think 1 on the sugar wagon is scum. I think 1 off the sugar wagon is scum. It is likely that wolves are invested in the game so unlikely to be the AFK's so its likely that one of winter, rem and bell is a wolf and their interactions dont preclude that. Someone had to try and save sugar or the game gets incredibly hard for wolves.Im not answering the questions for ori? I am commenting on a post that I have questions about myself. Your high and mightyness may scare others off on synidcate but it doesn't much towards me.the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?
Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?
You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too
You ask alot of questions what what you plan to do with all these answers, do you think ori is scum? According to prior posts you don't seem to think ori fits in a world with winter.
Someone had to bus for cred because then they can say "I was on wagon of a wolf" and get all the low hanging fruit who didnt vote d1 killed.
I am operating with several world views at all times because I am trying to find the one that fits.
But again I am not going to talk to you about questions I ask other people when they havent answered the original question yet.
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:41:16 PM
Sure you can make that arguement, which would mean their is no mafia on the red train but also red had to die because they were a counter train to mafia. Also they had claimed/softed pr somewhere according ti people.I'm not confident winter is townI think wintermoot hasWintermoot: 3 (RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
1.good chance of being pushed by scum
2.not been very useful game wise
3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration
but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2
bellepi is okayish i guess
rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.
the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people
I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something
and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX
You were also on the wagon.
So you are saying
A) PR Claim is scum
B) One of the two people who voted out a wolf when you didnt is scum
C) You are scum
D) Someone else who has been pushing winter but not voting them is scum, who?
I havent gotten any cooperation why would I cooperate? This is a game of working together. The only tool I have is my cooperation. If I cooperate with you without you cooperating with me its a one sided exchange.
Town has to work together. It doesnt mean we have to play nice.
Why cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/you
If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.
What has you so confident winter is town?
logic is, for the same reason one does not kill someone in their own house, given the option, killing red projekt would look like framing oricorio and winter as wolves trying to save Sugar
that's level 0 thinking, arguably I could see winter playing level 0 trying to protect a teammate
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:41:43 PM
So who are the wolves trying to frame winter and oricorio?I'm not confident winter is townI think wintermoot hasWintermoot: 3 (RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
1.good chance of being pushed by scum
2.not been very useful game wise
3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration
but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2
bellepi is okayish i guess
rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.
the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people
I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something
and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX
You were also on the wagon.
So you are saying
A) PR Claim is scum
B) One of the two people who voted out a wolf when you didnt is scum
C) You are scum
D) Someone else who has been pushing winter but not voting them is scum, who?
I havent gotten any cooperation why would I cooperate? This is a game of working together. The only tool I have is my cooperation. If I cooperate with you without you cooperating with me its a one sided exchange.
Town has to work together. It doesnt mean we have to play nice.
Why cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/you
If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.
What has you so confident winter is town?
logic is, for the same reason one does not kill someone in their own house, given the option, killing red projekt would look like framing oricorio and winter as wolves trying to save Sugar
that's level 0 thinking, arguably I could see winter playing level 0 trying to protect a teammate
Post by: Wintermoot on January 23, 2024, 10:42:16 PM
Winter your posts about activity worry me cause it feels like you were concerned about making it but you put alot of consideration into red over the person who actually flipped werewolf. Grace may just be mafia who is frozen at this point.That's not something I would have known when I voted though, just like I can't be 100% sure of Grace...I can just go off what seems odd to me.
Or I might just not be understanding what you're saying at all.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:42:41 PM
Its a bold move to vote your scum partner and never vote anyone else that day phaseHow was my vote a bus? I literally am the leading vote on that train.busing and afk frozen teammate is not out of the question, I'm just entertaining the possibilityI think wintermoot hasI legit don't understand why you think either me or loona are scum when we both were the critical people in pushing for the sugar moon lynch
1.good chance of being pushed by scum
2.not been very useful game wise
3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration
but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2
bellepi is okayish i guess
rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.
the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people
I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something
and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:45:15 PM
No your reading this wrong, I am not basing this off of your knowledge during day 1. I am basing this off of your post which shows you actively put some thought into red over the flipped red.Winter your posts about activity worry me cause it feels like you were concerned about making it but you put alot of consideration into red over the person who actually flipped werewolf. Grace may just be mafia who is frozen at this point.That's not something I would have known when I voted though, just like I can't be 100% sure of Grace...I can just go off what seems odd to me.
Or I might just not be understanding what you're saying at all.
And ur red vote isnt that strong tbh
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:45:18 PM
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 10:46:25 PM
eh, many people didn't even vote yesterday and there could be a busser given sugar basicly never came back, sugar could have said something like, "idk how to respond to rem bus me" or "i don't have time for this game bus me"So who are the wolves trying to frame winter and oricorio?I'm not confident winter is townI think wintermoot hasWintermoot: 3 (RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
1.good chance of being pushed by scum
2.not been very useful game wise
3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration
but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2
bellepi is okayish i guess
rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.
the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people
I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something
and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX
You were also on the wagon.
So you are saying
A) PR Claim is scum
B) One of the two people who voted out a wolf when you didnt is scum
C) You are scum
D) Someone else who has been pushing winter but not voting them is scum, who?
I havent gotten any cooperation why would I cooperate? This is a game of working together. The only tool I have is my cooperation. If I cooperate with you without you cooperating with me its a one sided exchange.
Town has to work together. It doesnt mean we have to play nice.
Why cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/you
If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.
What has you so confident winter is town?
logic is, for the same reason one does not kill someone in their own house, given the option, killing red projekt would look like framing oricorio and winter as wolves trying to save Sugar
that's level 0 thinking, arguably I could see winter playing level 0 trying to protect a teammate
tbh i could just be overthinking here and the wolves are just afk/noobs
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:46:42 PM
Post by: Wintermoot on January 23, 2024, 10:48:06 PM
Odd...I used the dropdown. Let me see if it works this time...
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:48:35 PM
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:49:56 PM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 10:51:22 PM
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:53:10 PM
the only viable votes to me are wint, abi, bell, and graceI dont have the confidence to say wint wont flip werewolf here
Post by: Wintermoot on January 23, 2024, 10:53:54 PM
No your reading this wrong, I am not basing this off of your knowledge during day 1. I am basing this off of your post which shows you actively put some thought into red over the flipped red.I'm not sure what you're saying...red over the flipped red?
And ur red vote isnt that strong tbh
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:54:53 PM
red over the flipped wolf, i used red a second time refer to a flipped evil aka red colorNo your reading this wrong, I am not basing this off of your knowledge during day 1. I am basing this off of your post which shows you actively put some thought into red over the flipped red.I'm not sure what you're saying...red over the flipped red?
And ur red vote isnt that strong tbh
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 10:55:04 PM
I'm leaning towards it flipping town like 70/30the only viable votes to me are wint, abi, bell, and graceI dont have the confidence to say wint wont flip werewolf here
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:55:59 PM
I am more confident in your views since you accurately called out the first wolf flipI'm leaning towards it flipping town like 70/30the only viable votes to me are wint, abi, bell, and graceI dont have the confidence to say wint wont flip werewolf here
Vote: Grace
I will vote wint if stuff gets sketchy though
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 10:57:29 PM
Radishes*
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 10:58:19 PM
but I'm not against bell winter grace Ex votes so like w/eI dont think radish is a hit, but also they havent been playing at all atleast with grace they tried did nothing useful so the scum equity exists.
Radishes*
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 10:58:35 PM
rofl am i being pocketedI am more confident in your views since you accurately called out the first wolf flipI'm leaning towards it flipping town like 70/30the only viable votes to me are wint, abi, bell, and graceI dont have the confidence to say wint wont flip werewolf here
Vote: Grace
I will vote wint if stuff gets sketchy though
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 10:59:06 PM
i hope radishes gets [redacted]but I'm not against bell winter grace Ex votes so like w/eI dont think radish is a hit, but also they havent been playing at all atleast with grace they tried did nothing useful so the scum equity exists.
Radishes*
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 11:00:08 PM
that is literally randI'm leaning towards it flipping town like 70/30the only viable votes to me are wint, abi, bell, and graceI dont have the confidence to say wint wont flip werewolf here
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 11:00:38 PM
no?that is literally randI'm leaning towards it flipping town like 70/30the only viable votes to me are wint, abi, bell, and graceI dont have the confidence to say wint wont flip werewolf here
Post by: Wintermoot on January 23, 2024, 11:00:55 PM
red over the flipped wolf, i used red a second time refer to a flipped evil aka red colorI put thought into all my decisions, it's not as if I didn't give Red any consideration.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 23, 2024, 11:01:01 PM
Post by: Rem on January 23, 2024, 11:01:11 PM
Post by: Loona on January 23, 2024, 11:02:04 PM
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 23, 2024, 11:05:42 PM
Vote: RemThis vote was too late
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 23, 2024, 11:06:18 PM
ExLight: 1 (Rem)
Master Radishes: 1 (Oricorio)
Rem: 1 (Grace)
Wintermoot: 2 (ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
No Vote (Never Voted): Bellepi, Master Radishes
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 23, 2024, 11:06:58 PM
She was.... The...
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Seer!
How unfortunate.
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 23, 2024, 11:07:21 PM
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 24, 2024, 06:40:27 PM
Currently in the need of 2 replacements but I might have found 1/2 already.
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 24, 2024, 08:18:47 PM
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 24, 2024, 11:11:48 PM
Loona died last night. They were a Villager.
It is now Day 3. 8 are alive so it's 6v2 and majority is 5.
The day will end in a bit less than 48 hours, since I do want the EoD to be at :00
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:14:22 PM
Was my slot towny
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:16:28 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:16:59 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 24, 2024, 11:25:09 PM
Grace green checked abbi btw, that seems pretty apparentMost likely. They also voted Rem and said they'd be okay with a Winter vote, but neither was really done with the conviction of a red check.
Anyway, you're subbing into a slanker slot. Hope you can make this slot into something that's not a black hole of information.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:26:13 PM
I find it pretty funny that you responded at that exact moment because I clicked onto your profile and saw a message from Day 3 and was pretty confused because I didn't see one prior to looking at your profileGrace green checked abbi btw, that seems pretty apparentMost likely. They also voted Rem and said they'd be okay with a Winter vote, but neither was really done with the conviction of a red check.
Anyway, you're subbing into a slanker slot. Hope you can make this slot into something that's not a black hole of information.
Post by: Oricorio on January 24, 2024, 11:26:35 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:27:04 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 24, 2024, 11:27:57 PM
Speaking of, is there any way to ISO someone for a specific thread or is this doomedNo. Fortunately, most players here don't do anything besides posting in this thread
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:28:37 PM
What happened yesterday, and who are you suspicious of because of it?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:29:50 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 24, 2024, 11:31:42 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 24, 2024, 11:31:51 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 24, 2024, 11:31:57 PM
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:32:40 PM
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 24, 2024, 11:32:55 PM
Both replacements found now!
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:33:26 PM
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:34:00 PM
I’m assuming this is how I post, I’ll read later but I’m going to get dinner now and I have one very important questioni think this would be asked in scum chat from mafia
Was my slot towny
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:35:22 PM
I just think they're being LAMIST tho lol
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:36:00 PM
Would it be rude to call Oricorio mafia for dipping right after I joinedi thought they were mafia since there response to you entering thread and the abbi check was kinda akaward
I just think they're being LAMIST tho lol
Post by: Oricorio on January 24, 2024, 11:36:27 PM
Hey Oricorio, you seem like a pretty astute playerWinter voted Grace, likely for self-pres reasons but it's a bit interesting that they voted Grace over any of the options that already had a vote. Loona (who flipped town) and RDB followed them, but the latter tried to drop out at the last minute which was strange. If I had voted Winter when I was still around, it would have been tied 3-3 but I stayed on MR because I didn't want an early hammer. Overall, I feel RDB should probably be pressured here, as well as the people who weren't around (Bellepi for instance)
What happened yesterday, and who are you suspicious of because of it?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:36:51 PM
dang u repped town too huhWould it be rude to call Oricorio mafia for dipping right after I joinedi thought they were mafia since there response to you entering thread and the abbi check was kinda akaward
I just think they're being LAMIST tho lol
mafia was winning this weren't they
Post by: Oricorio on January 24, 2024, 11:37:00 PM
Would it be rude to call Oricorio mafia for dipping right after I joinedHave patience, geez
I just think they're being LAMIST tho lol
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:37:29 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:38:01 PM
I'd assume this would be considered a good sign? Especially if Winter is mafia, trying to drop off of PR is usually a good thing for town to do lol
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:38:41 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 24, 2024, 11:39:39 PM
"but the latter tried to drop out at the last minute which was strange."It's not like wolves would have known they were a PR (unless they had a lucky seer shot). It's more that it seems like they're trying to dodge responsibility for it, and switching at the last minute is always a little suspicious.
I'd assume this would be considered a good sign? Especially if Winter is mafia, trying to drop off of PR is usually a good thing for town to do lol
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:39:45 PM
Quote
I think you missed a lot if you actually read instead of skim to post whatever then
Vote: Sugar Moon
I find it mildly funny that you're now essentially scumreading me for not putting in enough effort
Inb4 Oricorio tells us we planned this in scumchat
Rem is probably town off of spew
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:40:47 PM
exlight oricorio winter rondo
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:41:03 PM
Rem posted on January 19, 2024, 08:28:09 AM (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174518#msg174518)Unironically Rem was the townread I talked about on page 50, their reactions and shit on 49 specifically were rlly towny imoQuoteI think you missed a lot if you actually read instead of skim to post whatever then
Vote: Sugar Moon
I find it mildly funny that you're now essentially scumreading me for not putting in enough effort
Inb4 Oricorio tells us we planned this in scumchat
Rem is probably town off of spew
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:41:23 PM
hi can i know whats preventing them from having this shot"but the latter tried to drop out at the last minute which was strange."It's not like wolves would have known they were a PR (unless they had a lucky seer shot). It's more that it seems like they're trying to dodge responsibility for it, and switching at the last minute is always a little suspicious.
I'd assume this would be considered a good sign? Especially if Winter is mafia, trying to drop off of PR is usually a good thing for town to do lol
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:41:51 PM
kinda crazy that were both townRem posted on January 19, 2024, 08:28:09 AM (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174518#msg174518)Unironically Rem was the townread I talked about on page 50, their reactions and shit on 49 specifically were rlly towny imoQuoteI think you missed a lot if you actually read instead of skim to post whatever then
Vote: Sugar Moon
I find it mildly funny that you're now essentially scumreading me for not putting in enough effort
Inb4 Oricorio tells us we planned this in scumchat
Rem is probably town off of spew
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:42:44 PM
raw and realkinda crazy that were both townRem posted on January 19, 2024, 08:28:09 AM (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174518#msg174518)Unironically Rem was the townread I talked about on page 50, their reactions and shit on 49 specifically were rlly towny imoQuoteI think you missed a lot if you actually read instead of skim to post whatever then
Vote: Sugar Moon
I find it mildly funny that you're now essentially scumreading me for not putting in enough effort
Inb4 Oricorio tells us we planned this in scumchat
Rem is probably town off of spew
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:43:15 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 24, 2024, 11:43:24 PM
I'm sideyeing them a little for how they were there for all of EoD yet stayed on a vanity wagon, but I still have them as GTH townRem posted on January 19, 2024, 08:28:09 AM (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174518#msg174518)Unironically Rem was the townread I talked about on page 50, their reactions and shit on 49 specifically were rlly towny imoQuoteI think you missed a lot if you actually read instead of skim to post whatever then
Vote: Sugar Moon
I find it mildly funny that you're now essentially scumreading me for not putting in enough effort
Inb4 Oricorio tells us we planned this in scumchat
Rem is probably town off of spew
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:43:42 PM
I'ma go read ExLight, you wanna take on Winter?sure
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:43:53 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 24, 2024, 11:45:21 PM
On N1, wolves had a 1 in 9 chance of targeting the seer, and Grace didn't soft or give any other real indications that they were seer (unless you count slanking as an indication, but they were not the only one).hi can i know whats preventing them from having this shot"but the latter tried to drop out at the last minute which was strange."It's not like wolves would have known they were a PR (unless they had a lucky seer shot). It's more that it seems like they're trying to dodge responsibility for it, and switching at the last minute is always a little suspicious.
I'd assume this would be considered a good sign? Especially if Winter is mafia, trying to drop off of PR is usually a good thing for town to do lol
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:45:50 PM
I'm curious, are in-depth posts not a thing else where? I don't consider anything I've posted to be giant or a wall of text...they're actually short by NationStates standards.It's player difference. There are a few players who make a bunch of walls, there are a few players who don't.
I've noticed people have a tendency to make bursts of short posts in a row, and I initially thought it was to easy reach the minimum post count, but now I'm wondering if it's more a cultural thing.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:48:09 PM
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:48:30 PM
Sorry for the last minute vote...something came up I didn't expect. v_vHi you said a bunch during your ISO you don't like voting D1 can I know why you vote here, especially when it's your entrance of the thread?
This is hard...I'm reminded of one good thing about not voting the first day, not having to vote when you're not entirely sure. Though I guess you're never completely sure anyways, it's just even worse on the first day.
I would have liked to hear from Sugar Moon, because I can't help but feel like an elaboration from him would have helped clear that up. I can't help but feel like the whole thing could be a misunderstanding. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be much reasoning behind Red either...I guess it's just how it is the first day. =/
If I have to vote for one (I mean I could vote for someone else but what would be the point?), I guess it'd be Vote: Projekt Red
While I do understand pressure of wanting to vote correctly, wanting to get it rgiht! i think that something to keep in mind is that votes are jst votes and they don't exactly mean much.
This doesn't look very paired with Sugar Moon at the very least so it's solid, but can I know why you call out exactly them?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:48:55 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:50:41 PM
"omfl it was 5:45AM I literally only remembered the game right before heading to bed
if you angleshoot you can actually realize why this is townie
I'm here for real now, currently catching up"
ExLight, page 9
I'd be pretty damned if this flips wolf unless they have bad spew with sugar moon, gonna look at that
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 24, 2024, 11:51:16 PM
Yeah that is 100% fair, I was attempting to eat the night kill and play towny wim of a seer with some FPS and try to set up a 50/50 between Rem and me being seer but damn I was unhappy with Grace flipping seer. I was expecting host to announce when posts were free so I didnt think we were near EOD. I was trying to cause a bunch of ties to see where people moved. Should have just stayed on Winter and went about my day. Leashing my vote to Abbi/Neon today, only +ev town thing I can do.Hey Oricorio, you seem like a pretty astute playerWinter voted Grace, likely for self-pres reasons but it's a bit interesting that they voted Grace over any of the options that already had a vote. Loona (who flipped town) and RDB followed them, but the latter tried to drop out at the last minute which was strange. If I had voted Winter when I was still around, it would have been tied 3-3 but I stayed on MR because I didn't want an early hammer. Overall, I feel RDB should probably be pressured here, as well as the people who weren't around (Bellepi for instance)
What happened yesterday, and who are you suspicious of because of it?
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 24, 2024, 11:54:48 PM
There were 4 slankers d1 so 25% hit if they went for slankers and you assume they are all town. But its more likely the seer and hunter will try to be somewhat active to not get chopped and not be suspected as a PROn N1, wolves had a 1 in 9 chance of targeting the seer, and Grace didn't soft or give any other real indications that they were seer (unless you count slanking as an indication, but they were not the only one).hi can i know whats preventing them from having this shot"but the latter tried to drop out at the last minute which was strange."It's not like wolves would have known they were a PR (unless they had a lucky seer shot). It's more that it seems like they're trying to dodge responsibility for it, and switching at the last minute is always a little suspicious.
I'd assume this would be considered a good sign? Especially if Winter is mafia, trying to drop off of PR is usually a good thing for town to do lol
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:55:31 PM
I have read through all 200+ posts (in some cases again) and found a Werewolf Terminology list (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=6436.0), so let's do this!Thank you for making so much content, but I do have a question. Reading through your ISO I didn't get very much thoughts on players. You FOSd(Finger of Suspicion, basically a way of saying Suspected but didn't vote!) Oriocirio I believe, but didn't come to to much?npI hosted my first game last year. The whole game only had 90 posts, but I enjoyed the experience...more than playing, to be honest. But this seemed to be an important game for Abigail and Caitlin, was designed to be relatively casual, and I feel a bit bad for not being able to persuade more Wintreath people to join...so I figured I'd give it another try.
I see that's fine, I am on the other side a mafia nerd, I'm retiring to hosting mostly tho probably, but I just can't say no to Abigail
how would you resume your process as a town, even if casual, what do you normally do?
Back in the day most of the people who played knew each other (as most of you obviously do), so I would look for things that seemed out of character for them, or for people who tried to drive the game to a particular place for no apparent reason. Then as the game went on and there was more data about who'd been killed as town and wolves, I'd go back and see how that vibed with previous votes and noteworth events. I'd take a lot of notes too, especially for the crazy 500 posts a day games, but I hope it doesn't come to that here.Upgrade nice but I'm never gonna blame you or the site or trash it when I know what you've done hereI think that's the kindest thing anybody's ever told me as Wintreath leader/admin/mod. <3
That's why I am for Werewolf UI updates if and when you can do them and don't worry too much about how long it takes
The upgrade should at least be more mobile-friendly and internalize a lot of the features we're relying on hacky mods for, such as likes, notifications, and multi-quote. it's just that...well, SMF's default skin sucks, so I have to update that, then incorporate years of customizations and expansions. Werewolf shouldn't be too bad to do...I made it later on when I was a better coder, and most of the code is actually independent of the forum code. It's just more skin-work to get the options on the topic page (vote buttons, etc).
Sorry, I don't often get a chance to talk about my work. ^-^If I didn't know better I'd think you were a host of MoD based on your ISO this game. What are your actual thoughts on the game?MoD? That one isn't in my dictionary. I assume you mean my posting about the technical aspects of things though...it's what I best know, I suppose, and given the chance I'd start promoting Wintreath in general. We can always use new members and Citizens in our community. ^-^ :P
I feel like most of your posts are accusatory in some way, complete with judgements about how most players entered the game. It does come off as forceful and a bit contrived...I'm not sure that's enough for me to say you're suspicious though (although perhaps you would in my place :P). Your point about pushing a game forward by applying pressure is well-taken, and feels like something Laurentus might have told me once when we were chatting about MU games. Or you could be a wolf that hopes to come off as a townlead (did I use that jargon right?). Either way, you've made yourself a center of attention for the entire round, and I'm not sure it's been to your benefit regardless of your role.
I don't understand the vote on Sugar Moon, although I'm probably just not comprehending...this game is heavy on jargon at times, and even with a dictionary it's a bit hard for me to process. @Rem mentioned his posts being contradictory, but I didn't understand how so. To some extent I wonder if he came under suspicion because he was the first to post his exact thoughts on all the active players. I haven't been able to focus on any theme behind his posts, so I don't have an opinion either way. That being said, I didn't agree at all when he said that starting out without meaningful interaction is suspicious. I can totally understand people wanting to start getting their posts in if they're busy and haven't had a chance to go over everything yet, especially when there's very little in the way of concrete facts. Not enough to cast any sort of judgement, just a disagreement.
That being said, if that behaviour continued for multiple rounds I might be more open to that argument.
It's completely irrelevant to the game, but I'm left wondering if Projekt Red is a furry (it's the "wuf wuf awooo", lol). That's not meant in a bad way, as Wintreath has an active furry community. More relevantly, I don't agree with the reasoning behind Oricorio's vote on them. Unless I missed something, Sugar Moon didn't wolfread them and went so far as to say not w/w (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=8157.msg174498#msg174498). I don't get the idea of TWTBAW, but I gather getthing that vibe doesn't mean someone's a wolf. Anyone feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood any part of this.
Rem has come across to me as helpful, though I might be putting too much emotion into our non-game interactions on here last night. I didn't like the suspicion on Bellepi for saying that their claiming to be sick is a cause for suspicion...that seemed super-cynical, to the point of being jarring enough to write about it here. I don't know how the game is played on other websites, but if someone claims to be sick I'll take them at their word...if that makes me naive, well, I've been accused of such for far more serious things lol. Still, Projekt Red claims to have experience reading Rem in their vote, and that's probably more relevant than my enjoying some non-game centered conversation with him last night.i caught some sort of illness and have been sleeping all the time/feeling awful so i havent really been focusing on the game as of late, i should get over it by next Day Phase cause i saw a doctor and got meds todayDamn, I hope you feel better soon. :(
but ill try my best to put together thoughts before EoD todayI think the most powerful phase is day 1, since it has a tendency to be the most active and like you mentioned stuff is just thrown against the wall.That's the exact opposite of the thinking behind most traditional Wintreath games, where most people use a No Vote option because they don't want to accidentally vote off a townie and get the game off to a bad start. They reason that it's better for wolves to vote someone off because at least there's hard data to go on during the next day. Your point is well-taken though...this first day has certainly seen some dramatic moments lol.
Assume AI stuff was answered but if not it just means alignment indictive.
What happens most of the time is wolves just interact with each other without thinking because if you try to force yourself not to interact with your partner it just create pretty noticeable discrepancies between the slots.
That makes sense too...wolves would want to interact normally. It was just hard to see wolves pre-planning interactions around each other on the first day, and the consensus seems to be that that's not really a thing.
TWTBAW is to wolfy to be a wolf. It's basically wolves try to seem townie, so somebody very blatently wolfy might be town! Hope that makes sense ^^.
I loved reading your posts by the way! As a starting point, may you give me your thoughts on Abigail? Ignoring all other posts, just your own? Thank you!
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:56:22 PM
What the hell does this last bit meanYeah that is 100% fair, I was attempting to eat the night kill and play towny wim of a seer with some FPS and try to set up a 50/50 between Rem and me being seer but damn I was unhappy with Grace flipping seer. I was expecting host to announce when posts were free so I didnt think we were near EOD. I was trying to cause a bunch of ties to see where people moved. Should have just stayed on Winter and went about my day. Leashing my vote to Abbi/Neon today, only +ev town thing I can do.Hey Oricorio, you seem like a pretty astute playerWinter voted Grace, likely for self-pres reasons but it's a bit interesting that they voted Grace over any of the options that already had a vote. Loona (who flipped town) and RDB followed them, but the latter tried to drop out at the last minute which was strange. If I had voted Winter when I was still around, it would have been tied 3-3 but I stayed on MR because I didn't want an early hammer. Overall, I feel RDB should probably be pressured here, as well as the people who weren't around (Bellepi for instance)
What happened yesterday, and who are you suspicious of because of it?
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:56:23 PM
vote lynch rondo
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:57:03 PM
Sugar Moon: 5 (Projekt Red, Oricorio, ExLight, Loona, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
No Vote (Never Voted): Sugar Moon, Grace, RondoDimBuckle, Master Radishes
I would not be shocked if there's a bus here from Oricorio but I'm fairly confident this game is just 2/3 in Winter RDB Ori
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:57:32 PM
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:58:02 PM
Projekt Red: 3 (Wintermoot, Rem, Bellepi)Gun to head Winter is town.
Sugar Moon: 5 (Projekt Red, Oricorio, ExLight, Loona, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
No Vote (Never Voted): Sugar Moon, Grace, RondoDimBuckle, Master Radishes
I would not be shocked if there's a bus here from Oricorio but I'm fairly confident this game is just 2/3 in Winter RDB Ori
I think 2/2 might be RBD Ori.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:58:25 PM
how to vote
Post by: Luka on January 24, 2024, 11:58:43 PM
Actually, considering that Rem and Bellepi are likely both town, wouldn't shock me at all if Wintermoot is just likely a wolfI mean I don't think RBD Ori pure at all. I would also kinda feel bad for killing Winter.
I want them to answer my questions at least.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:58:53 PM
I'm at Winter Ori, why do u have RBDProjekt Red: 3 (Wintermoot, Rem, Bellepi)Gun to head Winter is town.
Sugar Moon: 5 (Projekt Red, Oricorio, ExLight, Loona, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
No Vote (Never Voted): Sugar Moon, Grace, RondoDimBuckle, Master Radishes
I would not be shocked if there's a bus here from Oricorio but I'm fairly confident this game is just 2/3 in Winter RDB Ori
I think 2/2 might be RBD Ori.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:59:14 PM
[v] Wintermoot [/v]
hopefully this works
Post by: GoldenOne on January 24, 2024, 11:59:40 PM
Vote: Oricorio
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:00:31 AM
I was going to call for a Red kill today to clear up wagons. But now I want Winter. Obviously present, big walls with no actual outcome, decided to try and get a town over instead of the wolf.Actually Luka, pretty sure this just is never SvS
Vote: Wintermoot
Which means Oricorio is likely always mafia
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:01:06 AM
Especially when I consider that Oricorio came into today wanting to look at RDB and Bellepi
I really think Oricorio / Winter is just a better solve rn
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 25, 2024, 12:01:13 AM
I think that Rondo is a wolf. I can provide full reasonings later <3.You gotta use the vote button for it to count, btw
vote lynch rondo
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 12:01:24 AM
I re evaled towards town just ISOd them think there first page was super townie (p4)I'm at Winter Ori, why do u have RBDProjekt Red: 3 (Wintermoot, Rem, Bellepi)Gun to head Winter is town.
Sugar Moon: 5 (Projekt Red, Oricorio, ExLight, Loona, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)
No Vote (Never Voted): Sugar Moon, Grace, RondoDimBuckle, Master Radishes
I would not be shocked if there's a bus here from Oricorio but I'm fairly confident this game is just 2/3 in Winter RDB Ori
I think 2/2 might be RBD Ori.
I had them because they mentioned winter alot in the 4th page of isoing and didnt really act on it
Vote: Oricorio
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 12:01:42 AM
Vote: OricorioI think that Rondo is a wolf. I can provide full reasonings later <3.You gotta use the vote button for it to count, btw
vote lynch rondo
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:01:57 AM
i found the button yippee
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:02:27 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 12:03:57 AM
I think that Rondo is a wolf. I can provide full reasonings later <3.When I flip town who is the team wolf instead?
vote lynch rondo
If I was a wolf who would I be partners with?
This is a very level 0 take
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 12:04:16 AM
read my other posts from last page lukaI did
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:04:27 AM
Don't worry rondo we are reconsideringI think that Rondo is a wolf. I can provide full reasonings later <3.When I flip town who is the team wolf instead?
vote lynch rondo
If I was a wolf who would I be partners with?
This is a very level 0 take
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 12:05:20 AM
So you don't even know the take since i never stated it in full even now so the arrogance is kinda showingI think that Rondo is a wolf. I can provide full reasonings later <3.When I flip town who is the team wolf instead?
vote lynch rondo
If I was a wolf who would I be partners with?
This is a very level 0 take
I don't really know I don't do partners very well at all but I do think that it's not really my job it's just my job to find wolves i think oricorio is a good start
if i flip who is the w team instead isn't really a good thought process for town imo since you gain nothing from it since if im wrong on you chances are i dont die anyways
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:05:38 AM
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 12:08:06 AM
I believe Winter probably attempted to distance with Oricorio but Sugar Moon getting limmed d1 threw a gigantic wrench in their plans, so they had to switch up their plan rq which is why Winter's progression on Red was bad and why they let their push on Oricorio diei want winter to answer my questions before pushing them i feel really bad for pushing a player due to being hedgy when theyre new and they're clearly putting good effort in
also another reason why i thought ronald mcdonald was evil was because they were pretty selectively replying to oricorios posts there and ignoring our progression on eachother which is kinda wolfy
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:08:55 AM
They're not new, they're the owner of this forum - although ig they might be new to like, different communities and stuffI believe Winter probably attempted to distance with Oricorio but Sugar Moon getting limmed d1 threw a gigantic wrench in their plans, so they had to switch up their plan rq which is why Winter's progression on Red was bad and why they let their push on Oricorio diei want winter to answer my questions before pushing them i feel really bad for pushing a player due to being hedgy when theyre new and they're clearly putting good effort in
also another reason why i thought ronald mcdonald was evil was because they were pretty selectively replying to oricorios posts there and ignoring our progression on eachother which is kinda wolfy
also good nickname
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 12:09:37 AM
theyre new to the way that MU people play mafai and stuffThey're not new, they're the owner of this forum - although ig they might be new to like, different communities and stuffI believe Winter probably attempted to distance with Oricorio but Sugar Moon getting limmed d1 threw a gigantic wrench in their plans, so they had to switch up their plan rq which is why Winter's progression on Red was bad and why they let their push on Oricorio diei want winter to answer my questions before pushing them i feel really bad for pushing a player due to being hedgy when theyre new and they're clearly putting good effort in
also another reason why i thought ronald mcdonald was evil was because they were pretty selectively replying to oricorios posts there and ignoring our progression on eachother which is kinda wolfy
also good nickname
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:09:55 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 12:10:53 AM
Yeah I saw, made me regret my toneDon't worry rondo we are reconsideringI think that Rondo is a wolf. I can provide full reasonings later <3.When I flip town who is the team wolf instead?
vote lynch rondo
If I was a wolf who would I be partners with?
This is a very level 0 take
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:11:14 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:11:50 AM
It is ok mr. dollar bill, i accept you and welcome you to the townYeah I saw, made me regret my toneDon't worry rondo we are reconsideringI think that Rondo is a wolf. I can provide full reasonings later <3.When I flip town who is the team wolf instead?
vote lynch rondo
If I was a wolf who would I be partners with?
This is a very level 0 take
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 12:13:47 AM
If mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:14:16 AM
It's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 12:15:12 AM
ggIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 12:15:30 AM
I like ronald mcdonald he is my friendWhy tho?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:15:55 AM
You are friendI like ronald mcdonald he is my friendWhy tho?
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 12:16:39 AM
Well actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:16:49 AM
Kill me and lose
Keep me alive and lose
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:17:01 AM
Wow ur rlly good at fpsWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 12:17:44 AM
Ngl I am cackling pretty good rnWow ur rlly good at fpsWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:18:27 AM
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 12:18:35 AM
@GoldenOne so its oricorio and winterWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
gg
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 12:18:50 AM
If mr armadillo is mafia I will give you a big kiss on the lips lukaaw <3 <3
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:19:11 AM
Yeah@GoldenOne so its oricorio and winterWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
gg
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:21:37 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:22:33 AM
Anyway, that lynch was unfortunate, probably should have voted Winter when I had the chance. Wolves might be more motivated today than they were yesterday, so keep that in mind.Actually luka we're really bad, we saw this post and then in his next post he said we should push RDB and you and didn't immediately vote him
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:23:10 AM
Abigail please come back
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 12:23:36 AM
oh no i didnt read itAnyway, that lynch was unfortunate, probably should have voted Winter when I had the chance. Wolves might be more motivated today than they were yesterday, so keep that in mind.Actually luka we're really bad, we saw this post and then in his next post he said we should push RDB and you and didn't immediately vote him
i just saw words
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:26:12 AM
that's all ima say tho
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:27:20 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:29:21 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 12:31:44 AM
mr. armored bamboo tree, can you please join us in voting oricorioIf neon says otherwise then no I'll wait for her to make the call I am on there in spirit
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:34:02 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 12:41:40 AM
Think abis town thats about allI am still loving that I randomly chose Neon and she was actually town. Feels good man.
All my support was fake Neon sorry. I was super suspicious of you all day for things you would say and do that could be wolfy. But I said none of it because I had seered you town
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:43:04 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 12:43:39 AM
So yeah its either exactly orc and winter or we've lost the game?
Apologies grace for my part in your death. I had Belle as seer in my head for how she was acting and you as a slanker
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 12:44:10 AM
Hey guys I’m new how do you play mafia80% this is macdoodoo poop
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:46:18 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:50:56 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:53:17 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 12:56:27 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 01:11:34 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 01:11:57 AM
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 01:26:11 AM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 02:00:56 AM
Abbi we're masoning rn btwBut like what if I think you might be a wolf?
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:04:25 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:05:23 AM
Would it be rude to call Oricorio mafia for dipping right after I joinedit wouldn't be rude but it would be dumb because they're one of the main reasons Sugar got lynched D1
I just think they're being LAMIST tho lol
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:06:37 AM
yayAbbi we're masoning rn btwBut like what if I think you might be a wolf?
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:06:50 AM
can you PLEASE remind me why you went for grace even though you were finding Rem's avoidance of the Moot slot weird?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:07:03 AM
you seemed to have missed the part where Oricorio and Winter are the solve, unless you have any other optionsWould it be rude to call Oricorio mafia for dipping right after I joinedit wouldn't be rude but it would be dumb because they're one of the main reasons Sugar got lynched D1
I just think they're being LAMIST tho lol
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:07:12 AM
Vote: RondoDimBuckleno
can you PLEASE remind me why you went for grace even though you were finding Rem's avoidance of the Moot slot weird?
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:09:14 AM
but GOD I'm mad at the random flashwagoning
we already have enough vote interactions to follow up from D1, flashwagoning on such shallow wagons only makes it easier for scum to pick a mislynch since they were probably a bit panicked
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:09:45 AM
I didn't ask youVote: RondoDimBuckleno
can you PLEASE remind me why you went for grace even though you were finding Rem's avoidance of the Moot slot weird?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:10:32 AM
that's just my opinion tho
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 02:10:36 AM
For the record I think it's one scum among Moot/Rem and one scum among the people that subbed inSam is hunter.
but GOD I'm mad at the random flashwagoning
we already have enough vote interactions to follow up from D1, flashwagoning on such shallow wagons only makes it easier for scum to pick a mislynch since they were probably a bit panicked
Sam is confirming me.
Moot fps'd hunter which I don't see coming from a mafia.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:12:10 AM
Moot = Winter, winter didn't fps, mr. dragon ball didFor the record I think it's one scum among Moot/Rem and one scum among the people that subbed inSam is hunter.
but GOD I'm mad at the random flashwagoning
we already have enough vote interactions to follow up from D1, flashwagoning on such shallow wagons only makes it easier for scum to pick a mislynch since they were probably a bit panicked
Sam is confirming me.
Moot fps'd hunter which I don't see coming from a mafia.
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:13:01 AM
he was the first tiebreak on sugar over red
scum doesnt bus like that here D1 when they can just watch or do nothing
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:14:03 AM
why are you voting oricorioI think you have the wrong person
he was the first tiebreak on sugar over red
scum doesnt bus like that here D1 when they can just watch or do nothing
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:15:13 AM
Well actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
how serious are theseIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:16:16 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:16:31 AM
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 02:16:49 AM
sorryMoot = Winter, winter didn't fps, mr. dragon ball didFor the record I think it's one scum among Moot/Rem and one scum among the people that subbed inSam is hunter.
but GOD I'm mad at the random flashwagoning
we already have enough vote interactions to follow up from D1, flashwagoning on such shallow wagons only makes it easier for scum to pick a mislynch since they were probably a bit panicked
Sam is confirming me.
Moot fps'd hunter which I don't see coming from a mafia.
mono dastardly belgium
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:16:54 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 02:17:40 AM
Yes, because the only alternative to not voting ~30 minutes to EoD is to vote first thing in the phase. Nuance, what's that?Anyway, that lynch was unfortunate, probably should have voted Winter when I had the chance. Wolves might be more motivated today than they were yesterday, so keep that in mind.Actually luka we're really bad, we saw this post and then in his next post he said we should push RDB and you and didn't immediately vote him
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:17:53 AM
I'm pretty sure he was the one that first broke the tiewhy are you voting oricorioI think you have the wrong person
he was the first tiebreak on sugar over red
scum doesnt bus like that here D1 when they can just watch or do nothing
it was one hour before EoD1, I was getting my baggage inspected at the airport at the time
I retied it right after to generate more discussion and they got a bit mad at me
you can go reread his EoD, it's extremely townie and we would not have been able to lynch sugar without his vote/pressure
the only ambiguous person in the lynch wagon was abbi because red claimed PR last second so she had to change to look better regardless of alignment
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 02:18:45 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:18:50 AM
We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:19:04 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:19:17 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 02:20:32 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:20:47 AM
Also, assuming neither Golden nor RDB rescind their claims, there has to be either one wolf in there or town is throwingyou and i both know mr. rotary dagger blade was fps'ing
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:22:14 AM
playing minecraft right now but exlight you are better than this?? You're the one who barely caught up and isn't even understanding the events??
I was literally there at the EoD1 and watched it happen live??
I don't think I've been playing badly considering I was also one of the main people that got sugar lynched, provided a shitton of voting interaction, and wasn't one of the people who decided to fucking vote the seer out outta nowhere
mafia is literally going after the people I said would be towncleared because they're clearly aware that I'm right about how these players looked after the D1 flip and I wouldn't be surprised if I were next
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 02:22:18 AM
who the fuck even is dingle hopperRMD
Also, Hi Exlight!!!
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:23:17 AM
hi luka!who the fuck even is dingle hopperRMD
Also, Hi Exlight!!!
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 02:23:24 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 02:25:24 AM
They were hinting at being a PR throughout D2, and with the Seer flipped Hunter is the only (town) one it can be. Granted, faking it isn't out of character for them, and CC'ing here would be risky if RDB is a wolf (unless it's RDB/Winter and that's a last-ditch effort to buy a day)Also, assuming neither Golden nor RDB rescind their claims, there has to be either one wolf in there or town is throwingyou and i both know mr. rotary dagger blade was fps'ing
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 02:26:56 AM
i hope mr duck duck goose comes back before i go get dinnerLoons aren't ducks you silly goose
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 02:30:24 AM
Or was eye brow wiggleAlso, assuming neither Golden nor RDB rescind their claims, there has to be either one wolf in there or town is throwingyou and i both know mr. rotary dagger blade was fps'ing
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 02:31:50 AM
For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 02:33:21 AM
Pretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:34:59 AM
Here in time for EoD, though I'm still a bit busyso I found Oricorio's vote
Vote: Sugar Moon
Two reasons: a. I hate ties and b. Projekt is at leat trying to defend themselves while Moon seemingly just shut down
This was an hour prior to EoD, and was used to break the tie in a very volatile gamestate
This is not a townclearing vote ever
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:35:13 AM
can you fetch the post that might indicate thatPretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Vote: Wintermoot
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 02:36:13 AM
Please if I had a scum team theyd be malding so hard rnMeh. This doesn't really have the conviction of someone voting someone they know is a wolf.
Anyways
Vote: Rem
Is this a omgsus? Yes? Does this feel like scum going after lhf? Yes? Should you listen to this at all? Probably not
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:36:31 AM
it is, ties are coin flipHere in time for EoD, though I'm still a bit busyso I found Oricorio's vote
Vote: Sugar Moon
Two reasons: a. I hate ties and b. Projekt is at leat trying to defend themselves while Moon seemingly just shut down
This was an hour prior to EoD, and was used to break the tie in a very volatile gamestate
This is not a townclearing vote ever
it makes so scum needs two votes on the other wagon to prevent the chance of one of them getting lynched, it solidifies the wagon and causes wolves to enter bus mode AFTER it
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 02:37:23 AM
Its more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academiccan you fetch the post that might indicate thatPretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Vote: Wintermoot
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:37:47 AM
grumble why cant people be straightforward about their reads when they're PRsPlease if I had a scum team theyd be malding so hard rnMeh. This doesn't really have the conviction of someone voting someone they know is a wolf.
Anyways
Vote: Rem
Is this a omgsus? Yes? Does this feel like scum going after lhf? Yes? Should you listen to this at all? Probably not
am I supposed to follow this up or the "probably not"
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:38:33 AM
ok soit is, ties are coin flipHere in time for EoD, though I'm still a bit busyso I found Oricorio's vote
Vote: Sugar Moon
Two reasons: a. I hate ties and b. Projekt is at leat trying to defend themselves while Moon seemingly just shut down
This was an hour prior to EoD, and was used to break the tie in a very volatile gamestate
This is not a townclearing vote ever
it makes so scum needs two votes on the other wagon to prevent the chance of one of them getting lynched, it solidifies the wagon and causes wolves to enter bus mode AFTER it
two counterpoints
1 - Bussing exists and idk why ur so set on this read when they are not towny
2 - Again, very volatile gamestate
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:38:53 AM
is it weird that I get the other way around from thisIts more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academiccan you fetch the post that might indicate thatPretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Vote: Wintermoot
Neon check and Rem town (?)
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:41:13 AM
bussing for no reason in a setup with basically a semi-bomb and a cop alive without having godfather is literally the most moronic thing anyone could dook soit is, ties are coin flipHere in time for EoD, though I'm still a bit busyso I found Oricorio's vote
Vote: Sugar Moon
Two reasons: a. I hate ties and b. Projekt is at leat trying to defend themselves while Moon seemingly just shut down
This was an hour prior to EoD, and was used to break the tie in a very volatile gamestate
This is not a townclearing vote ever
it makes so scum needs two votes on the other wagon to prevent the chance of one of them getting lynched, it solidifies the wagon and causes wolves to enter bus mode AFTER it
two counterpoints
1 - Bussing exists and idk why ur so set on this read when they are not towny
2 - Again, very volatile gamestate
if you're gonna dumbplay everything that we got from that voting interactions into WIFOM just so you can say your gutfeeling is the gospel we should just agree to disagree and move on
you're probably about to hit your cap due to ass post management anyway
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 02:41:31 AM
Yes.is it weird that I get the other way around from thisIts more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academiccan you fetch the post that might indicate thatPretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Vote: Wintermoot
Neon check and Rem town (?)
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:42:52 AM
but why would they enter saying neon is town if they checked remYes.is it weird that I get the other way around from thisIts more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academiccan you fetch the post that might indicate thatPretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Vote: Wintermoot
Neon check and Rem town (?)
doesn't it cause this dumb issue on us not being sure who they checked if they flip
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 02:45:03 AM
I hate 50-50s. Well, at least we know that Abby/Rem isn't w/w? (If they are all blame goes to Grace) Still, I'm like 90% sure Abby is the green check, but as I say never underestimate the ability for town to do stupid things.but why would they enter saying neon is town if they checked remYes.is it weird that I get the other way around from thisIts more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academiccan you fetch the post that might indicate thatPretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Vote: Wintermoot
Neon check and Rem town (?)
doesn't it cause this dumb issue on us not being sure who they checked if they flip
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:45:25 AM
the latter being exactly what wintermoot did which is like
why I was very fine with his lynch yesterday
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:47:46 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:48:01 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:51:18 AM
Moot feels tied to Rem, so if Moot flips scum I'd prolly never want any of the Abbi/Rem
with the GoldenOne claim of being the hunter, I'd probably prioritize a Luka wagon over him
but from my experience with him he does some stupid WIFOM plays so if Rondo is legit hard counterclaiming hunter I would probably be about 50/50 on Golden's slot
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:51:54 AM
abigail is green checked
rem's entire eod2 is impossible to scumread unless you are really bad
i am apparently the only person able to read luka but they are town
you, are presumably town
oricorio and winter are left
I'll help you lim winter, but I can tell you with confidence that I will not be nightkilled because oricorio would lose if they do so
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 02:55:05 AM
You're not reading what I say. Night 1 neon, night 2 which is a different night, last night where loona died if grace was alive would have checked rem because she voted them and her post when she voted them told us not to listen to her. If she was alive today she would have told us the outcomebut why would they enter saying neon is town if they checked remYes.is it weird that I get the other way around from thisIts more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academiccan you fetch the post that might indicate thatPretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Vote: Wintermoot
Neon check and Rem town (?)
doesn't it cause this dumb issue on us not being sure who they checked if they flip
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 02:55:41 AM
It's not a 50/50 to say otherwise is scummyI hate 50-50s. Well, at least we know that Abby/Rem isn't w/w? (If they are all blame goes to Grace) Still, I'm like 90% sure Abby is the green check, but as I say never underestimate the ability for town to do stupid things.but why would they enter saying neon is town if they checked remYes.is it weird that I get the other way around from thisIts more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academiccan you fetch the post that might indicate thatPretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Vote: Wintermoot
Neon check and Rem town (?)
doesn't it cause this dumb issue on us not being sure who they checked if they flip
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:56:05 AM
dunno, i just find it weird that you're expecting there not to be a deepwolf when a scum was limmed d1because scum could've avoided sugar being lynched d1 easily with that tiebreak
there's no reason to WIFOM this hard D1 if it only makes their team a lot weaker to the town power roles, there isn't a proportional pay off even if one of the scum looks better from the vote
if oricorio had voted red instead of sugar then red would've likely been the lynch and he'd be in a good spot since breaking ties is usually townie and it would give a lot of breathing room for sugar (specially if they eventually came to vote self-preserv)
the fact they did the other way around and made it impossible for sugar to be safe even after a possible self preserv is significantly townie
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:56:52 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:57:47 AM
I like how they say it's a 50/50 but also say they're 90% sure it was abbiIt's not a 50/50 to say otherwise is scummyI hate 50-50s. Well, at least we know that Abby/Rem isn't w/w? (If they are all blame goes to Grace) Still, I'm like 90% sure Abby is the green check, but as I say never underestimate the ability for town to do stupid things.but why would they enter saying neon is town if they checked remYes.is it weird that I get the other way around from thisIts more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academiccan you fetch the post that might indicate thatPretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Vote: Wintermoot
Neon check and Rem town (?)
doesn't it cause this dumb issue on us not being sure who they checked if they flip
the meaning of 50/50 is dead and we killed it
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 02:57:54 AM
Rondo claimed seer yesterday fyiWow ur rlly good at fpsWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
and was like the only thing that kept me from voting him
I asked him a simple question and got turned down
so I would like a very good reason to not kill rondo today
Vote: RondoDimBuckle
*whisper* i love your shinigami pfp
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 02:58:03 AM
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 02:58:22 AM
I nominate RDB for the "Did you even read my post?" awardIt's not a 50/50 to say otherwise is scummyI hate 50-50s. Well, at least we know that Abby/Rem isn't w/w? (If they are all blame goes to Grace) Still, I'm like 90% sure Abby is the green check, but as I say never underestimate the ability for town to do stupid things.but why would they enter saying neon is town if they checked remYes.is it weird that I get the other way around from thisIts more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academiccan you fetch the post that might indicate thatPretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper everplease explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them
Vote: Wintermoot
Neon check and Rem town (?)
doesn't it cause this dumb issue on us not being sure who they checked if they flip
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 02:58:57 AM
mr. dragon ball z does not FPS as mafia thereI mean..... I do... But me targeting winter hard d2 is not something I can do as wolf and expect a win. Eventually we run out of cover for why I am still alive after two wolves are dead.
abigail is green checked
rem's entire eod2 is impossible to scumread unless you are really bad
i am apparently the only person able to read luka but they are town
you, are presumably town
oricorio and winter are left
I'll help you lim winter, but I can tell you with confidence that I will not be nightkilled because oricorio would lose if they do so
Also I regret losing confidence in my winter read
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 02:59:14 AM
They're claiming Hunter nowRondo claimed seer yesterday fyiWow ur rlly good at fpsWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
and was like the only thing that kept me from voting him
I asked him a simple question and got turned down
so I would like a very good reason to not kill rondo today
Vote: RondoDimBuckle
*whisper* i love your shinigami pfp
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 02:59:38 AM
ok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:00:18 AM
because they are extremely towny if you read today and like, all of their postsRondo claimed seer yesterday fyiWow ur rlly good at fpsWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
and was like the only thing that kept me from voting him
I asked him a simple question and got turned down
so I would like a very good reason to not kill rondo today
Vote: RondoDimBuckle
*whisper* i love your shinigami pfp
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 03:00:25 AM
Because I claimed hunter today? Will that work? 🙏Rondo claimed seer yesterday fyiWow ur rlly good at fpsWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
and was like the only thing that kept me from voting him
I asked him a simple question and got turned down
so I would like a very good reason to not kill rondo today
Vote: RondoDimBuckle
*whisper* i love your shinigami pfp
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 03:00:37 AM
yeah i know i saw itThey're claiming Hunter nowRondo claimed seer yesterday fyiWow ur rlly good at fpsWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
and was like the only thing that kept me from voting him
I asked him a simple question and got turned down
so I would like a very good reason to not kill rondo today
Vote: RondoDimBuckle
*whisper* i love your shinigami pfp
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:00:55 AM
Abigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:01:16 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:01:27 AM
I remember them just claiming power role and then kinda claiming both seer and hunter but it seemed memey and I didn't take it seriouslyRondo claimed seer yesterday fyiWow ur rlly good at fpsWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
and was like the only thing that kept me from voting him
I asked him a simple question and got turned down
so I would like a very good reason to not kill rondo today
Vote: RondoDimBuckle
*whisper* i love your shinigami pfp
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:01:53 AM
what does this even have to do with anythingAbigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:02:04 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:02:25 AM
How in the lord's name do you have Oricorio over the green checkwhat does this even have to do with anythingAbigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:03:02 AM
how are they pocketing me if them being town comes from my own analysis on the vote interactions rather than his interactions with me
I literally don't like the guy but it's kinda clear that his vote screams town to me
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:03:12 AM
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:03:40 AM
why do you keep misusing pocketI don't know how you managed to get into his pocket but you are firm snug and cozy in there, might as well set up a campfire and call it home
how are they pocketing me if them being town comes from my own analysis on the vote interactions rather than his interactions with me
I literally don't like the guy but it's kinda clear that his vote screams town to me
He is not town
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 03:03:53 AM
enlight mebecause they are extremely towny if you read today and like, all of their postsRondo claimed seer yesterday fyiWow ur rlly good at fpsWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
and was like the only thing that kept me from voting him
I asked him a simple question and got turned down
so I would like a very good reason to not kill rondo today
Vote: RondoDimBuckle
*whisper* i love your shinigami pfp
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:04:10 AM
they're hunterenlight mebecause they are extremely towny if you read today and like, all of their postsRondo claimed seer yesterday fyiWow ur rlly good at fpsWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
and was like the only thing that kept me from voting him
I asked him a simple question and got turned down
so I would like a very good reason to not kill rondo today
Vote: RondoDimBuckle
*whisper* i love your shinigami pfp
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:04:23 AM
I suck at reading abigail and her vote flipflopping with less than 5 minutes remaining wasn't goodHow in the lord's name do you have Oricorio over the green checkwhat does this even have to do with anythingAbigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
and Rondo seems to be screaming that Rem was the green check do u think it was abbi too then?
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 03:04:27 AM
Rem, you know I am not doo doo at this gamewho are you?
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:04:55 AM
Are you not the person who plays on Mafia UniverseRem, you know I am not doo doo at this gamewho are you?
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
I am the guy with the corgi avatar
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:05:22 AM
If you read Grace's ISO, Abigail was 100% the green check - Rem is just also incredibly inherently townyI suck at reading abigail and her vote flipflopping with less than 5 minutes remaining wasn't goodHow in the lord's name do you have Oricorio over the green checkwhat does this even have to do with anythingAbigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
and Rondo seems to be screaming that Rem was the green check do u think it was abbi too then?
I am good at reading Abigail and telling you she is town
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:05:25 AM
it's SamRem, you know I am not doo doo at this gamewho are you?
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 03:05:44 AM
how the fuck am I the green checkI suck at reading abigail and her vote flipflopping with less than 5 minutes remaining wasn't goodHow in the lord's name do you have Oricorio over the green checkwhat does this even have to do with anythingAbigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
and Rondo seems to be screaming that Rem was the green check do u think it was abbi too then?
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:06:44 AM
why is Rem townieIf you read Grace's ISO, Abigail was 100% the green check - Rem is just also incredibly inherently townyI suck at reading abigail and her vote flipflopping with less than 5 minutes remaining wasn't goodHow in the lord's name do you have Oricorio over the green checkwhat does this even have to do with anythingAbigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
and Rondo seems to be screaming that Rem was the green check do u think it was abbi too then?
I am good at reading Abigail and telling you she is town
and what is your read on Moot
What do you make out of the flashwagon D2 killing the seer
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:07:41 AM
@Abbi @Luka @RDB
All 3 of you know that I am hunter and blah blah but we're going to claim RDB is hunter so these people do not vote them, and then we can put Oricorio over today because if Winter tries to stop it then they will be outted with Oricorio and exlight will no longer be able to skissue
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:07:59 AM
eod2why is Rem townieIf you read Grace's ISO, Abigail was 100% the green check - Rem is just also incredibly inherently townyI suck at reading abigail and her vote flipflopping with less than 5 minutes remaining wasn't goodHow in the lord's name do you have Oricorio over the green checkwhat does this even have to do with anythingAbigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
and Rondo seems to be screaming that Rem was the green check do u think it was abbi too then?
I am good at reading Abigail and telling you she is town
and what is your read on Moot
What do you make out of the flashwagon D2 killing the seer
mafia
bad
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 03:09:31 AM
yeah it is IAre you not the person who plays on Mafia UniverseRem, you know I am not doo doo at this gamewho are you?
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
I am the guy with the corgi avatar
oh well if I lose to you as a rep with how annoyingly uncooperative this town has been idm, do as you please
if you are sure rondo is clear, then is wintermoot/oricorio/ex
I won't bother reading luka for the same reason and just assume bellepi was town, luka also seems towny at a glance
i don't think it's abigail either
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:09:56 AM
I'd prefer Moot over Ori since it also gives us info from yesterday since he was the leading wagon all day before people did a 180° so it gives more information
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:10:58 AM
ok yeah i can work with thisyeah it is IAre you not the person who plays on Mafia UniverseRem, you know I am not doo doo at this gamewho are you?
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
I am the guy with the corgi avatar
oh well if I lose to you as a rep with how annoyingly uncooperative this town has been idm, do as you please
if you are sure rondo is clear, then is wintermoot/oricorio/ex
I won't bother reading luka for the same reason and just assume bellepi was town, luka also seems towny at a glance
i don't think it's abigail either
I am 100% confident rondo is town, please help me eliminate oricorio - I'm going to compromise with Ex today but tomorrow will be drastic situation
Vote: Wintermoot
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:12:46 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:13:13 AM
why do you hate me is it because I was mad at you literally lying about me D1yeah it is IAre you not the person who plays on Mafia UniverseRem, you know I am not doo doo at this gamewho are you?
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
I am the guy with the corgi avatar
oh well if I lose to you as a rep with how annoyingly uncooperative this town has been idm, do as you please
if you are sure rondo is clear, then is wintermoot/oricorio/ex
I won't bother reading luka for the same reason and just assume bellepi was town, luka also seems towny at a glance
i don't think it's abigail either
how am I even scummy can you elaborate and please start reevaluating
You kept saying me + Loona and then Loona flipped and now you still pushing the narrative i'm scum
why is it never Luka or Golden? Their slots were literally inactive most first two days and you're still townreading them more than me and ori who literally made the sugar lynch viable
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 03:13:27 AM
also can we hammer soon my posts are running out and its making me sadVote: Wintermoot
sure
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:14:07 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:14:48 AM
I could explain my reads, but all you would do is refute that - there's no real point
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:15:12 AM
can you make a list from scummier to townier and tell which top 3~5 worlds you find more likelyok yeah i can work with thisyeah it is IAre you not the person who plays on Mafia UniverseRem, you know I am not doo doo at this gamewho are you?
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
I am the guy with the corgi avatar
oh well if I lose to you as a rep with how annoyingly uncooperative this town has been idm, do as you please
if you are sure rondo is clear, then is wintermoot/oricorio/ex
I won't bother reading luka for the same reason and just assume bellepi was town, luka also seems towny at a glance
i don't think it's abigail either
I am 100% confident rondo is town, please help me eliminate oricorio - I'm going to compromise with Ex today but tomorrow will be drastic situation
Vote: Wintermoot
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:16:15 AM
not hammer
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 03:16:30 AM
i decided to not scum read themwhy do you hate me is it because I was mad at you literally lying about me D1yeah it is IAre you not the person who plays on Mafia UniverseRem, you know I am not doo doo at this gamewho are you?
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
I am the guy with the corgi avatar
oh well if I lose to you as a rep with how annoyingly uncooperative this town has been idm, do as you please
if you are sure rondo is clear, then is wintermoot/oricorio/ex
I won't bother reading luka for the same reason and just assume bellepi was town, luka also seems towny at a glance
i don't think it's abigail either
how am I even scummy can you elaborate and please start reevaluating
You kept saying me + Loona and then Loona flipped and now you still pushing the narrative i'm scum
why is it never Luka or Golden? Their slots were literally inactive most first two days and you're still townreading them more than me and ori who literally made the sugar lynch viable
you are just part of an uncoop town
I said loona or you and that it was probably not loona
and that lonna not w/w with abbi
seems like I'm on a roll with these reads at least, so if you have a good case for why I should follow you, I'm all eyes
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:16:37 AM
RDB doesn't do a few things as scum - they don't AtE Luka like that over nothing, they don't do whatever the hell they did D1 i quoted it earlier, and they dont FPS
Rem hard towntold by asking if they were being pocketed (they were) and also just generally had really good stuff on d2
ExLight is town due to d1 and the "angleshoot me town" stuff which i appreciated
Luka is town because godread
Abigail is town because greencheck
I am town because hunter
I am not reading for who is the scummiest, I am reading for who cannot be town - there are 2 people remaining.
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:18:18 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:18:21 AM
Towncan you make a list from scummier to townier and tell which top 3~5 worlds you find more likelyok yeah i can work with thisyeah it is IAre you not the person who plays on Mafia UniverseRem, you know I am not doo doo at this gamewho are you?
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
I am the guy with the corgi avatar
oh well if I lose to you as a rep with how annoyingly uncooperative this town has been idm, do as you please
if you are sure rondo is clear, then is wintermoot/oricorio/ex
I won't bother reading luka for the same reason and just assume bellepi was town, luka also seems towny at a glance
i don't think it's abigail either
I am 100% confident rondo is town, please help me eliminate oricorio - I'm going to compromise with Ex today but tomorrow will be drastic situation
Vote: Wintermoot
Sam
Abigail
Luka
Rem
RDB
You
Oricorio
Winter
Scum
Worlds (Top is likely, bottom is no)
Winter / Oricorio
You / Oricorio
Winter / RDB
Winter / You
Oricorio / RDB
You / RDB
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:18:47 AM
didnt you rescind your hunter claim im sobbingthe trick to a good claim is to make sure that absolutely nobody knows who the real one is between you and the person you're FPS'ing with
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:20:32 AM
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 03:21:03 AM
and the seer was a potato sack that didn't listen to my initial warning OF NOT BEING A FUCKING POTATO SACK
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:21:08 AM
the fact you say you're townreading me and yet is setting me up for a mislynch by putting me in half of these worlds isTowncan you make a list from scummier to townier and tell which top 3~5 worlds you find more likelyok yeah i can work with thisyeah it is IAre you not the person who plays on Mafia UniverseRem, you know I am not doo doo at this gamewho are you?
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
I am the guy with the corgi avatar
oh well if I lose to you as a rep with how annoyingly uncooperative this town has been idm, do as you please
if you are sure rondo is clear, then is wintermoot/oricorio/ex
I won't bother reading luka for the same reason and just assume bellepi was town, luka also seems towny at a glance
i don't think it's abigail either
I am 100% confident rondo is town, please help me eliminate oricorio - I'm going to compromise with Ex today but tomorrow will be drastic situation
Vote: Wintermoot
Sam
Abigail
Luka
Rem
RDB
You
Oricorio
Winter
Scum
Worlds (Top is likely, bottom is no)
Winter / Oricorio
You / Oricorio
Winter / RDB
Winter / You
Oricorio / RDB
You / RDB
not great
why so confident about luka? is it meta?
Post by: Wintermoot on January 25, 2024, 03:21:29 AM
Speaking of, is there any way to ISO someone for a specific thread or is this doomedHello, and welcome back to Wintreath! I'm your forum host/administrator (though I see you already know that), and it's interesting how this question keeps coming up xD
I figure from other answers it's some kind of search thing, but what exactly is ISO?
It's player difference. There are a few players who make a bunch of walls, there are a few players who don't.I know it's outside the Werewolf game, but I'd be interested in knowing why that seems to be referred to as a bad thing in here. As I mentioned in Wintreath's Discord, it makes me wonder if my posts are a slog to read outside the game too. =/
Thank you for making so much content, but I do have a question. Reading through your ISO I didn't get very much thoughts on players. You FOSd(Finger of Suspicion, basically a way of saying Suspected but didn't vote!) Oriocirio I believe, but didn't come to to much?
TWTBAW is to wolfy to be a wolf. It's basically wolves try to seem townie, so somebody very blatently wolfy might be town! Hope that makes sense ^^.
I loved reading your posts by the way! As a starting point, may you give me your thoughts on Abigail? Ignoring all other posts, just your own? Thank you!
Hi you said a bunch during your ISO you don't like voting D1 can I know why you vote here, especially when it's your entrance of the thread?Thank you! You might well be the only person who enjoyed reading my posts. :P Welcome back to Wintreath and to the game, btw, and thanks for the definitions. The jargon can be crazy sometimes lol.
While I do understand pressure of wanting to vote correctly, wanting to get it rgiht! i think that something to keep in mind is that votes are jst votes and they don't exactly mean much.
This doesn't look very paired with Sugar Moon at the very least so it's solid, but can I know why you call out exactly them?
I had already answered this on Day 2, but to recap I believed that all players absolutely had to make 10 posts each round or be eliminated, and by the time I actually got around to it there were maybe 20 minutes left in the day. By that time there were two people who could plausibly be voted out: Sugar Moon and Projeckt Red. I felt like it'd be weird to vote for someone who had no chance of being voted out, and it'd be weird to post and not vote at all, especially after being told by a number of people that not voting benefitted wolves (in traditional Wintreath games nobody was usually voted off the first day which is why the topic game up). I felt like I'd be accused of trying to fly under the radar at the last minute, so I felt like my only options was to vote between those two and there wasn't much to go on.
I made the wrong choice, and I've been paying for it since...you can't stay they don't always mean much.
I thought Oriocirio was very aggressive at the start of day one, and I thought the whole judging how people made their first post was weird and off-putting. That's not much to go on, for all I know this is how they typically act at the start of a game...his point about applying pressure to push the game forward reminded me of what someone else who played MU-style Mafia said once, so I thought it was plausible. The whole wolves plotting exact conversations with each other on Day 1 thing was weird too, and several people confirmed to me that it's not really a thing. Since the first half of Day 1 he hasn't been as aggressive and I'd say he's been in the middle of the pack, and with so much going on after that I'd forgotten about that first bit.
Same with Abbi in terms of being in the middle of the pack...I would have thought she would've been more of a game driver. It's interesting to see how she seems to still be on people's minds even when she isn't around, but you guys like her enough to play Werewolf on an archaic forum she's trying to revive, so I guess that'd be expected lol. It's been years since I've played a game with her, but besides some joke posts most of her gameplay has been rather...bland. Odd for someone who's such a colourful, stand-out person in general, but you guys would know more about whether this is normal or not...playstyles do change.
Winter voted Grace, likely for self-pres reasons but it's a bit interesting that they voted Grace over any of the options that already had a vote. Loona (who flipped town) and RDB followed them, but the latter tried to drop out at the last minute which was strange. If I had voted Winter when I was still around, it would have been tied 3-3 but I stayed on MR because I didn't want an early hammer. Overall, I feel RDB should probably be pressured here, as well as the people who weren't around (Bellepi for instance)I voted Grace for the specific reason that I thought it was weird that they weren't involved in the first two days, then showed up at the end of the day practically asking other people to catch up on the game for them and promising that they'd finally be ready to play the game on day 3. There's flying under the radar, but this seemed blatant to me and I'm not sure why they weren't challenged stronger when they posted that. That said, I never expected to other people to switch their vote afterwards, especially after Loona said my reasoning wasn't very good.
Just wanted to clarify that besides not voting for myself, I try to have a reason for voting besides self-preservation.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:22:02 AM
They haven't been towny after that and their entrance to today was really awkward, and with a wolf limmed D1 - the chance of a deepwolf skyrockets, which is what I'm pretty sure happened here
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 03:22:10 AM
Wtf I am screaming that neon was and rem was going to be checked if I wasn't a moron and killed the seer with Winter and loonaI suck at reading abigail and her vote flipflopping with less than 5 minutes remaining wasn't goodHow in the lord's name do you have Oricorio over the green checkwhat does this even have to do with anythingAbigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
and Rondo seems to be screaming that Rem was the green check do u think it was abbi too then?
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:22:34 AM
can you increase the post cap for Golden and Luka considering they subbed in and have more stuff to catch up for considering the previous users activity?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:23:45 AM
I put the bottom 4 people in 3 worlds each for me, you asked for worlds so I gave my thoughts lol - I still do townread you and I still do just have Winter/Oricorio, that's just thread statesthe fact you say you're townreading me and yet is setting me up for a mislynch by putting me in half of these worlds isTowncan you make a list from scummier to townier and tell which top 3~5 worlds you find more likelyok yeah i can work with thisyeah it is IAre you not the person who plays on Mafia UniverseRem, you know I am not doo doo at this gamewho are you?
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
I am the guy with the corgi avatar
oh well if I lose to you as a rep with how annoyingly uncooperative this town has been idm, do as you please
if you are sure rondo is clear, then is wintermoot/oricorio/ex
I won't bother reading luka for the same reason and just assume bellepi was town, luka also seems towny at a glance
i don't think it's abigail either
I am 100% confident rondo is town, please help me eliminate oricorio - I'm going to compromise with Ex today but tomorrow will be drastic situation
Vote: Wintermoot
Sam
Abigail
Luka
Rem
RDB
You
Oricorio
Winter
Scum
Worlds (Top is likely, bottom is no)
Winter / Oricorio
You / Oricorio
Winter / RDB
Winter / You
Oricorio / RDB
You / RDB
not great
why so confident about luka? is it meta?
and yes, it is 100% meta but I can link you like 18 and a half games where I've just been spot on every time so i'm pretty confident in the read
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:23:52 AM
my bad??Wtf I am screaming that neon was and rem was going to be checked if I wasn't a moron and killed the seer with Winter and loonaI suck at reading abigail and her vote flipflopping with less than 5 minutes remaining wasn't goodHow in the lord's name do you have Oricorio over the green checkwhat does this even have to do with anythingAbigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
and Rondo seems to be screaming that Rem was the green check do u think it was abbi too then?
I even asked if it was weird I had understood Neon was the one checked and you said yes??
Post by: Wintermoot on January 25, 2024, 03:24:54 AM
Quote
Like I said yesterday, it'd be logical if a wolf was hiding in the middle of the pack...not standing out for either inactivity or for driving the game. But there's a few people in that category, including myself. Not sure that alone means anything individually.
I type my replies in a separate custom-made textbox cause it greatly bothers me when I'm typing and the text isn't justified and a certain font size, and I missed this when copying my reply over.
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 03:25:28 AM
see how easy it is to gaslight?my bad??Wtf I am screaming that neon was and rem was going to be checked if I wasn't a moron and killed the seer with Winter and loonaI suck at reading abigail and her vote flipflopping with less than 5 minutes remaining wasn't goodHow in the lord's name do you have Oricorio over the green checkwhat does this even have to do with anythingAbigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
and Rondo seems to be screaming that Rem was the green check do u think it was abbi too then?
I even asked if it was weird I had understood Neon was the one checked and you said yes??
/jk
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 03:27:10 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:27:17 AM
ISO is filtering the posts in a thread by userSpeaking of, is there any way to ISO someone for a specific thread or is this doomedHello, and welcome back to Wintreath! I'm your forum host/administrator (though I see you already know that), and it's interesting how this question keeps coming up xD
I figure from other answers it's some kind of search thing, but what exactly is ISO?It's player difference. There are a few players who make a bunch of walls, there are a few players who don't.I know it's outside the Werewolf game, but I'd be interested in knowing why that seems to be referred to as a bad thing in here. As I mentioned in Wintreath's Discord, it makes me wonder if my posts are a slog to read outside the game too. =/Thank you for making so much content, but I do have a question. Reading through your ISO I didn't get very much thoughts on players. You FOSd(Finger of Suspicion, basically a way of saying Suspected but didn't vote!) Oriocirio I believe, but didn't come to to much?
TWTBAW is to wolfy to be a wolf. It's basically wolves try to seem townie, so somebody very blatently wolfy might be town! Hope that makes sense ^^.
I loved reading your posts by the way! As a starting point, may you give me your thoughts on Abigail? Ignoring all other posts, just your own? Thank you!Hi you said a bunch during your ISO you don't like voting D1 can I know why you vote here, especially when it's your entrance of the thread?Thank you! You might well be the only person who enjoyed reading my posts. :P Welcome back to Wintreath and to the game, btw, and thanks for the definitions. The jargon can be crazy sometimes lol.
While I do understand pressure of wanting to vote correctly, wanting to get it rgiht! i think that something to keep in mind is that votes are jst votes and they don't exactly mean much.
This doesn't look very paired with Sugar Moon at the very least so it's solid, but can I know why you call out exactly them?
I had already answered this on Day 2, but to recap I believed that all players absolutely had to make 10 posts each round or be eliminated, and by the time I actually got around to it there were maybe 20 minutes left in the day. By that time there were two people who could plausibly be voted out: Sugar Moon and Projeckt Red. I felt like it'd be weird to vote for someone who had no chance of being voted out, and it'd be weird to post and not vote at all, especially after being told by a number of people that not voting benefitted wolves (in traditional Wintreath games nobody was usually voted off the first day which is why the topic game up). I felt like I'd be accused of trying to fly under the radar at the last minute, so I felt like my only options was to vote between those two and there wasn't much to go on.
I made the wrong choice, and I've been paying for it since...you can't stay they don't always mean much.
I thought Oriocirio was very aggressive at the start of day one, and I thought the whole judging how people made their first post was weird and off-putting. That's not much to go on, for all I know this is how they typically act at the start of a game...his point about applying pressure to push the game forward reminded me of what someone else who played MU-style Mafia said once, so I thought it was plausible. The whole wolves plotting exact conversations with each other on Day 1 thing was weird too, and several people confirmed to me that it's not really a thing. Since the first half of Day 1 he hasn't been as aggressive and I'd say he's been in the middle of the pack, and with so much going on after that I'd forgotten about that first bit.
Same with Abbi in terms of being in the middle of the pack...I would have thought she would've been more of a game driver. It's interesting to see how she seems to still be on people's minds even when she isn't around, but you guys like her enough to play Werewolf on an archaic forum she's trying to revive, so I guess that'd be expected lol. It's been years since I've played a game with her, but besides some joke posts most of her gameplay has been rather...bland. Odd for someone who's such a colourful, stand-out person in general, but you guys would know more about whether this is normal or not...playstyles do change.Winter voted Grace, likely for self-pres reasons but it's a bit interesting that they voted Grace over any of the options that already had a vote. Loona (who flipped town) and RDB followed them, but the latter tried to drop out at the last minute which was strange. If I had voted Winter when I was still around, it would have been tied 3-3 but I stayed on MR because I didn't want an early hammer. Overall, I feel RDB should probably be pressured here, as well as the people who weren't around (Bellepi for instance)I voted Grace for the specific reason that I thought it was weird that they weren't involved in the first two days, then showed up at the end of the day practically asking other people to catch up on the game for them and promising that they'd finally be ready to play the game on day 3. There's flying under the radar, but this seemed blatant to me and I'm not sure why they weren't challenged stronger when they posted that. That said, I never expected to other people to switch their vote afterwards, especially after Loona said my reasoning wasn't very good.
Just wanted to clarify that besides not voting for myself, I try to have a reason for voting besides self-preservation.
it's done so people can focus on analyzing a specific player at a time
also Grace was around for D2 since it started, no?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:27:31 AM
And also, great to meet you! I apologize about your rand, but I'm happy I get to play with ya :D
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:28:23 AM
gaslight? me?see how easy it is to gaslight?my bad??Wtf I am screaming that neon was and rem was going to be checked if I wasn't a moron and killed the seer with Winter and loonaI suck at reading abigail and her vote flipflopping with less than 5 minutes remaining wasn't goodHow in the lord's name do you have Oricorio over the green checkwhat does this even have to do with anythingAbigail is literally greenchecked, how are you this far into the pocketok how about we make a deal ExLightno because I think me and ori are the only ones that should be out of PoE and shooting him would be kinda ass
We eliminate Winter
if I die that night, Oricorio will be flipped and you can decide the next 2 eliminations - Luka and Abigail will help enforce that
if I do not die that night, we eliminate Oricorio the next day. If they are town, you have free will to decide the final elimination.
Deal?
Vote: Wintermoot
Vote: Oricorio
and Rondo seems to be screaming that Rem was the green check do u think it was abbi too then?
I even asked if it was weird I had understood Neon was the one checked and you said yes??
/jk
nah you're crazy, I have never been gaslit
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:28:31 AM
its a cold day in hell before sam gets 97 posts as mafia in this threadstate fwiwI'm actually staypositivefriend, the best wolf west of the mississippi
Post by: ExLight on January 25, 2024, 03:28:56 AM
keep squeezing posts from Moot pls
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:29:23 AM
(luka please vote winter so we can get abbi to hammer)
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:30:28 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 25, 2024, 03:35:39 AM
also Rem thank you, the shinigami pfp is very fitting for me i think and i am very happy with it because I am the master detective
Post by: Wintermoot on January 25, 2024, 03:38:49 AM
also Grace was around for D2 since it started, no?The postcount shows that they made 10 posts, but I only remember the bit at the end. I most likely didn't consider any of their other posts noteworthy and disregarded them...it's not good either way when the player themselves promises to be ready to play the next day though.
For Winter, ISO'ing is the ability to read only a single player's posts (or multiple players) in "isolation" - meaning that you just see what they've written and nobody else in that thread. It's really helpful for people like me who love to make townreads and generally focus on people first, gamestates second.Thank you :) I don't play Werewolf often these days...it's literally been years, but I'm hoping to get some other forum games going this year. Wintreath actually has a large slate of games, we just...rarely play them. Maybe you or others would be interested in giving them a try when we get around to doing them. :)
And also, great to meet you! I apologize about your rand, but I'm happy I get to play with ya :D
Is our search function alright for doing that? There's a possibility I'll develop more stuff for Werewolf in the future
And...rand? Sorry to keep asking about definitions. The jargon used in these games is amazing...it's used more here than in my actual job lol. I've definitely gotten some more insight on how these games can be intimidating for newer people.
Also, not an expert, but you probably shouldn't use up all your posts in the first few hours of the game. Though my problem is getting to 10 posts...even though that's not a strict requirement? Still not clear on that...
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 03:44:45 AM
Using my (maybe) last post to say that you should vote Winter Luka/Abbi/RDB and I would really appreciate if you did I will give you a big kissie on the cheek and a giant hug and um idk something else really cute(https://media.tenor.com/AG0p2NpNPE8AAAAM/vivia-twilight-shinigami.gif)
also Rem thank you, the shinigami pfp is very fitting for me i think and i am very happy with it because I am the master detective
cool, I fell more in line with Halara Nightmare, but Shinigami reminds me of Junko and I love Junko
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 04:05:20 AM
ISO is to isolate messages, or search for one person's specific messages!Speaking of, is there any way to ISO someone for a specific thread or is this doomedHello, and welcome back to Wintreath! I'm your forum host/administrator (though I see you already know that), and it's interesting how this question keeps coming up xD
I figure from other answers it's some kind of search thing, but what exactly is ISO?It's player difference. There are a few players who make a bunch of walls, there are a few players who don't.I know it's outside the Werewolf game, but I'd be interested in knowing why that seems to be referred to as a bad thing in here. As I mentioned in Wintreath's Discord, it makes me wonder if my posts are a slog to read outside the game too. =/Thank you for making so much content, but I do have a question. Reading through your ISO I didn't get very much thoughts on players. You FOSd(Finger of Suspicion, basically a way of saying Suspected but didn't vote!) Oriocirio I believe, but didn't come to to much?
TWTBAW is to wolfy to be a wolf. It's basically wolves try to seem townie, so somebody very blatently wolfy might be town! Hope that makes sense ^^.
I loved reading your posts by the way! As a starting point, may you give me your thoughts on Abigail? Ignoring all other posts, just your own? Thank you!Hi you said a bunch during your ISO you don't like voting D1 can I know why you vote here, especially when it's your entrance of the thread?Thank you! You might well be the only person who enjoyed reading my posts. :P Welcome back to Wintreath and to the game, btw, and thanks for the definitions. The jargon can be crazy sometimes lol.
While I do understand pressure of wanting to vote correctly, wanting to get it rgiht! i think that something to keep in mind is that votes are jst votes and they don't exactly mean much.
This doesn't look very paired with Sugar Moon at the very least so it's solid, but can I know why you call out exactly them?
I had already answered this on Day 2, but to recap I believed that all players absolutely had to make 10 posts each round or be eliminated, and by the time I actually got around to it there were maybe 20 minutes left in the day. By that time there were two people who could plausibly be voted out: Sugar Moon and Projeckt Red. I felt like it'd be weird to vote for someone who had no chance of being voted out, and it'd be weird to post and not vote at all, especially after being told by a number of people that not voting benefitted wolves (in traditional Wintreath games nobody was usually voted off the first day which is why the topic game up). I felt like I'd be accused of trying to fly under the radar at the last minute, so I felt like my only options was to vote between those two and there wasn't much to go on.
I made the wrong choice, and I've been paying for it since...you can't stay they don't always mean much.
I thought Oriocirio was very aggressive at the start of day one, and I thought the whole judging how people made their first post was weird and off-putting. That's not much to go on, for all I know this is how they typically act at the start of a game...his point about applying pressure to push the game forward reminded me of what someone else who played MU-style Mafia said once, so I thought it was plausible. The whole wolves plotting exact conversations with each other on Day 1 thing was weird too, and several people confirmed to me that it's not really a thing. Since the first half of Day 1 he hasn't been as aggressive and I'd say he's been in the middle of the pack, and with so much going on after that I'd forgotten about that first bit.
Same with Abbi in terms of being in the middle of the pack...I would have thought she would've been more of a game driver. It's interesting to see how she seems to still be on people's minds even when she isn't around, but you guys like her enough to play Werewolf on an archaic forum she's trying to revive, so I guess that'd be expected lol. It's been years since I've played a game with her, but besides some joke posts most of her gameplay has been rather...bland. Odd for someone who's such a colourful, stand-out person in general, but you guys would know more about whether this is normal or not...playstyles do change.Winter voted Grace, likely for self-pres reasons but it's a bit interesting that they voted Grace over any of the options that already had a vote. Loona (who flipped town) and RDB followed them, but the latter tried to drop out at the last minute which was strange. If I had voted Winter when I was still around, it would have been tied 3-3 but I stayed on MR because I didn't want an early hammer. Overall, I feel RDB should probably be pressured here, as well as the people who weren't around (Bellepi for instance)I voted Grace for the specific reason that I thought it was weird that they weren't involved in the first two days, then showed up at the end of the day practically asking other people to catch up on the game for them and promising that they'd finally be ready to play the game on day 3. There's flying under the radar, but this seemed blatant to me and I'm not sure why they weren't challenged stronger when they posted that. That said, I never expected to other people to switch their vote afterwards, especially after Loona said my reasoning wasn't very good.
Just wanted to clarify that besides not voting for myself, I try to have a reason for voting besides self-preservation.
Alot of people don't really love reading walls since they can be a bit of a pain to read, given how mch content is inside of them. I personally enjoy reading them though, given they're both useful for me and kind of fun to read. Before I got into mafia I used to love just reading the forum pages for mafia championships for example! They aren't a bad thing at all <3.
True! There's a lot of Jargon in this game, a lot of it is mis-used as well, which creates for a negative new player experience. Thank you for welcoming me! Nice to see ya <3.
While I do recommend voting, you can no vote if you want! It's not compulsory and I really don't think that anybody would get angry if you didn't, and if they did it would be really bad accusations. Granted, I really don't think that it's the greatest idea.
Oricorios playstyle is basically being aggressive, so it doesn't mean very much. As for Abbi, fair! She's normally a blast to play with, true! She changed her playstyle recently though and I'm not really familiar with it, but yeah. Also, I love your forum UI! It's easily my favorite to use so far simply due to how easy it is to do various things. Nice!
That's Ile's playstyle alright lol. That's really all I have to say :p.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 04:27:20 AM
Ohhhh that's why you think you have meta on meits a cold day in hell before sam gets 97 posts as mafia in this threadstate fwiwI'm actually staypositivefriend, the best wolf west of the mississippi
Post by: Luka on January 25, 2024, 04:44:53 AM
(he is not spf)Ohhhh that's why you think you have meta on meits a cold day in hell before sam gets 97 posts as mafia in this threadstate fwiwI'm actually staypositivefriend, the best wolf west of the mississippi
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 04:54:10 AM
Ive been bamboozle(he is not spf)Ohhhh that's why you think you have meta on meits a cold day in hell before sam gets 97 posts as mafia in this threadstate fwiwI'm actually staypositivefriend, the best wolf west of the mississippi
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 05:18:59 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 05:26:42 AM
Once again I don't think an early hammer is a good idea, we still have over half the phase yet. I think the Luka/Golden duo is just in a bad tunnel. I mean, considering that D2 has gone much better for wolves than D1, and that as they were replacing in they didn't have to answer to any previous posts, I can see a world in which one of them is a wolf who's trying to rush to a quick victory. Golden's Hunter claim makes me want to leave that one alone for now (unless RDB is serious about CCing) but Luka arrived second I believe and may have seen the pocket opportunity. After all, wolves only need two mislynches to win here. Eliminating Abby, ExLight, and Golden that leaves a PoE of Luka, RDB, Winter, and Rem, which one more than a winning PoE at this point in the game so even if I clear the other three I still need to remove one more.Interesting how you state wolves need 2 miselims and proceed to put a poe that gives you enough flex to miselim 2
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 05:26:55 AM
Once again I don't think an early hammer is a good idea, we still have over half the phase yet. I think the Luka/Golden duo is just in a bad tunnel. I mean, considering that D2 has gone much better for wolves than D1, and that as they were replacing in they didn't have to answer to any previous posts, I can see a world in which one of them is a wolf who's trying to rush to a quick victory. Golden's Hunter claim makes me want to leave that one alone for now (unless RDB is serious about CCing) but Luka arrived second I believe and may have seen the pocket opportunity. After all, wolves only need two mislynches to win here. Eliminating Abby, ExLight, and Golden that leaves a PoE of Luka, RDB, Winter, and Rem, which one more than a winning PoE at this point in the game so even if I clear the other three I still need to remove one more.any poe that has me and luka in it is a game losing poe
Post by: Oricorio on January 25, 2024, 05:27:26 AM
Another candidate for the "Did you even read my post?" awardOnce again I don't think an early hammer is a good idea, we still have over half the phase yet. I think the Luka/Golden duo is just in a bad tunnel. I mean, considering that D2 has gone much better for wolves than D1, and that as they were replacing in they didn't have to answer to any previous posts, I can see a world in which one of them is a wolf who's trying to rush to a quick victory. Golden's Hunter claim makes me want to leave that one alone for now (unless RDB is serious about CCing) but Luka arrived second I believe and may have seen the pocket opportunity. After all, wolves only need two mislynches to win here. Eliminating Abby, ExLight, and Golden that leaves a PoE of Luka, RDB, Winter, and Rem, which one more than a winning PoE at this point in the game so even if I clear the other three I still need to remove one more.Interesting how you state wolves need 2 miselims and proceed to put a poe that gives you enough flex to miselim 2
Post by: Rem on January 25, 2024, 05:31:20 AM
luka was bellepi and while bellepi was a potato sack (slightly less than others) luka is posting towny, and I'll follow Goldenone because I agree with him
+ I'm not an ego player as town, while i do have good reads I like to bounce of others reads because it's that much better, and Goldenone provided good input and wim that I don't currently have
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 06:57:19 AM
Yes I did, you have still yet to narrow it down and until you do I am happy with having this in my isoAnother candidate for the "Did you even read my post?" awardOnce again I don't think an early hammer is a good idea, we still have over half the phase yet. I think the Luka/Golden duo is just in a bad tunnel. I mean, considering that D2 has gone much better for wolves than D1, and that as they were replacing in they didn't have to answer to any previous posts, I can see a world in which one of them is a wolf who's trying to rush to a quick victory. Golden's Hunter claim makes me want to leave that one alone for now (unless RDB is serious about CCing) but Luka arrived second I believe and may have seen the pocket opportunity. After all, wolves only need two mislynches to win here. Eliminating Abby, ExLight, and Golden that leaves a PoE of Luka, RDB, Winter, and Rem, which one more than a winning PoE at this point in the game so even if I clear the other three I still need to remove one more.Interesting how you state wolves need 2 miselims and proceed to put a poe that gives you enough flex to miselim 2
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 07:16:44 AM
I think that Rondo is a wolf. I can provide full reasonings later <3.Bad vote tbh
vote lynch rondo
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 07:20:25 AM
I am already half way to post cap good for meI came back and you capped
Abigail please come back
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 07:22:09 AM
Why sus of me?Think abis town thats about allI am still loving that I randomly chose Neon and she was actually town. Feels good man.
All my support was fake Neon sorry. I was super suspicious of you all day for things you would say and do that could be wolfy. But I said none of it because I had seered you town
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 07:30:20 AM
just NAI things that I know you do as wolf like the "stop being mean guys" about the forum. Your image posting and what not. Things that dont really say your alignment but together lean towards you being evil. But you are town so we guuchiWhy sus of me?Think abis town thats about allI am still loving that I randomly chose Neon and she was actually town. Feels good man.
All my support was fake Neon sorry. I was super suspicious of you all day for things you would say and do that could be wolfy. But I said none of it because I had seered you town
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 07:31:54 AM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 08:43:23 AM
Grace struggles to read me and clearly checked me night 1grumble why cant people be straightforward about their reads when they're PRsPlease if I had a scum team theyd be malding so hard rnMeh. This doesn't really have the conviction of someone voting someone they know is a wolf.
Anyways
Vote: Rem
Is this a omgsus? Yes? Does this feel like scum going after lhf? Yes? Should you listen to this at all? Probably not
am I supposed to follow this up or the "probably not"
It's pretty straight forward
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 08:51:16 AM
Thank you :pRondo claimed seer yesterday fyiWow ur rlly good at fpsWell actually I am hunterIt's ok I have a really good way to put a stop to thatIf mr mcd does not like my posts tho I might have to vote him for war crimesby the way we're going to be accused of w/w just letting you know
probably shouldve put this in mafia chat
I hardclaim Hunter.
and was like the only thing that kept me from voting him
I asked him a simple question and got turned down
so I would like a very good reason to not kill rondo today
Vote: RondoDimBuckle
*whisper* i love your shinigami pfp
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 08:52:28 AM
Rem, you know I am not doo doo at this gameSure why not
Abbi, you know I am not doo doo at this game
You give me this day to eliminate a wolf or perish
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 08:53:30 AM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 08:54:56 AM
there werent even 5 hours since day started can weHammers win games
not hammer
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 09:09:00 AM
Amusing people used to call me gif posting a town telljust NAI things that I know you do as wolf like the "stop being mean guys" about the forum. Your image posting and what not. Things that dont really say your alignment but together lean towards you being evil. But you are town so we guuchiWhy sus of me?Think abis town thats about allI am still loving that I randomly chose Neon and she was actually town. Feels good man.
All my support was fake Neon sorry. I was super suspicious of you all day for things you would say and do that could be wolfy. But I said none of it because I had seered you town
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 09:09:21 AM
Also in case you missed it Abbi, my vote is where ever you say it is today because that EOD was atrocious. I know most people are saying I am town but I still think I better take myself out of this game mechanically. I really lost wim last night when seer flipped so its a plus for that as well.Understood
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 09:09:35 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 10:32:05 AM
Vote: WintermootVote: Wintermoot
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 10:34:43 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 25, 2024, 10:37:12 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/tE9uWwN.png)
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 25, 2024, 11:00:28 AM
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 25, 2024, 12:20:52 PM
Aura Werewolf!
Night will end in 34 hours and 40 minutes, however, if everyone DMs me to end the night earlier it'll end in 10 hours and 40 minutes instead.
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 27, 2024, 12:00:50 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 12:26:23 AM
For now, Vote: RondoDimBuckle. If you're actually serious about your claim, stop pussyfooting around it and confront Golden. Otherwise, I'm gonna assume you're full of shit.
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 12:59:48 AM
I wouldn't prioritize his lynch because, well, it's WIFOM. And I'd like to believe he doesn't implode his own team like this.
To me the one that looks the worst here is Rem since they kept throwing shade at the people pushing for Sugar when they moved to Red, and during his pushes on D2 kept trying for the Towncore me/Loone and away from Wintermoot.
Rondo looks good despite the awkward D2 flashwagon into the seer.
Ori looks good for reasons I mentioned before already regarding the D1 lynch.
Luka I'm, uh, null at best.
Golden hard townreading them makes me a bit weirded out because it could be pocketing, but in case it isn't then it makes me wanna point a "If Golden flips Town then Luka is likely Town" here.
As a rainbow list:
ExLight
Oricorio
RondoDimBuckle
Luka
GoldenOne
Rem
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 01:00:38 AM
Good lynch, but I would have liked a bit more spew out of them. I'll analyze their interactions once I have access to my laptop. Unless Luka is the last wolf, there was bussing here which does make sense given that they could shut down town discussion early and Winter was likely a liability after barely scraping by D2.Golden already rescinded his hunter claim multiple times, there's nothing to confront
For now, Vote: RondoDimBuckle. If you're actually serious about your claim, stop pussyfooting around it and confront Golden. Otherwise, I'm gonna assume you're full of shit.
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 01:01:29 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 01:19:29 AM
Rondo, CC or Retract
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 01:20:13 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 01:20:22 AM
Wrong person
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 01:25:58 AM
Vote: OricorioYou're still gonna be tunneled in spite of us having a red flip?
Wrong person
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 01:32:36 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 01:39:27 AM
yall really need to keep these shenanigans that can result in our semi bomb role getting lynched
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 01:39:34 AM
YesDoes the flip change anything about your worldview? Did you reread anything in light of it?
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 01:39:54 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 01:50:55 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 01:58:27 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:02:16 AM
My worldview has changed because I think it can no longer be ExLightare you sure about that? he has you and me at the bottom
which is like, are you even serious dude?
but this abigail kill seems so stupid that it might just be a noob fr
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:03:50 AM
From my experience with Golden I would actually not be surprised if he was scum despite fakeclaiming to be the Hunter since he seems to enjoy WIFOM and unorthodox plays a loti think this is a wolfy post ngl
I wouldn't prioritize his lynch because, well, it's WIFOM. And I'd like to believe he doesn't implode his own team like this.
To me the one that looks the worst here is Rem since they kept throwing shade at the people pushing for Sugar when they moved to Red, and during his pushes on D2 kept trying for the Towncore me/Loone and away from Wintermoot.
Rondo looks good despite the awkward D2 flashwagon into the seer.
Ori looks good for reasons I mentioned before already regarding the D1 lynch.
Luka I'm, uh, null at best.
Golden hard townreading them makes me a bit weirded out because it could be pocketing, but in case it isn't then it makes me wanna point a "If Golden flips Town then Luka is likely Town" here.
As a rainbow list:
ExLight
Oricorio
RondoDimBuckle
Luka
GoldenOne
Rem
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:07:39 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:09:25 AM
YedMy worldview has changed because I think it can no longer be ExLightare you sure about that? he has you and me at the bottom
which is like, are you even serious dude?
but this abigail kill seems so stupid that it might just be a noob fr
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:10:59 AM
Oricorio - 3 - Sam, Luka, RDB
Rondo - 2 - Ex, Oricorio
Ex - 1 - Rem
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:11:20 AM
They were…
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.
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Werewolf! The town wins!
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 02:12:13 AM
Today’s ExpectationThat's a good path to MyLo right there
Oricorio - 3 - Sam, Luka, RDB
Rondo - 2 - Ex, Oricorio
Ex - 1 - Rem
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:12:30 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:12:43 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:17:00 AM
Vote: Oricorio
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:17:27 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:18:48 AM
I defy expectationswow ur good at mafia
Vote: Oricorio
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:19:00 AM
Oricorio -> Rem likely wins the game, maybe Rondo but probably not and it’s likely just oricorioI don's kill a town cw night 1
specially if i ended up voting/pushing there
I know better tyvm
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:19:49 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:21:36 AM
I don’t like arguments like these but ur town so i will let it slideOricorio -> Rem likely wins the game, maybe Rondo but probably not and it’s likely just oricorioI don's kill a town cw night 1
specially if i ended up voting/pushing there
I know better tyvm
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:22:03 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:24:09 AM
When will they realize I’ve been TMI’ing everyone’s alignment :olol I wouldn't mind losing to you, if you bussed winter, good on you
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:24:25 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:25:14 AM
I think the nightkill tonight will be really funnydoesn't the game end with oricorio?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:25:30 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:25:45 AM
No i am mafiagottem
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:28:51 AM
Then I will convince Rondo to vote Rem and it will be gg teeheeheee
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:29:38 AM
should i nightkill Luka, probablyyou have forgotten there's a sleep face before that
Then I will convince Rondo to vote Rem and it will be gg teeheeheee
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:30:11 AM
No because I am so good that the town will forget to sleep and be like “wow we don’t need to see a kill”should i nightkill Luka, probablyyou have forgotten there's a sleep face before that
Then I will convince Rondo to vote Rem and it will be gg teeheeheee
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:31:07 AM
why not kill me today instead, am I that much easier to push in a f3?No because I am so good that the town will forget to sleep and be like “wow we don’t need to see a kill”should i nightkill Luka, probablyyou have forgotten there's a sleep face before that
Then I will convince Rondo to vote Rem and it will be gg teeheeheee
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:31:36 AM
Idk good questionwhy not kill me today instead, am I that much easier to push in a f3?No because I am so good that the town will forget to sleep and be like “wow we don’t need to see a kill”should i nightkill Luka, probablyyou have forgotten there's a sleep face before that
Then I will convince Rondo to vote Rem and it will be gg teeheeheee
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:32:21 AM
nod nod
the guy is mafia or delusional
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:33:39 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:36:10 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:37:11 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:37:58 AM
for me it's Ex/Oricorio/rondoah yes the person that aggressively caused both wolves to get lynched and the hunter claim
I can hardly not interpret you constantly pushing for literally the towniest people all game as anything but scummy as fuck
Vote: Rem
if you're town you're playing one of the worst games I've ever seen because you're too busy tunneling based on nonsense pettiness and you should REALLY be reevaluating how you play
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:38:33 AM
*snore*
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:38:54 AM
Today’s Expectationdid you even like
Oricorio - 3 - Sam, Luka, RDB
Rondo - 2 - Ex, Oricorio
Ex - 1 - Rem
read my posts
it literally says rondo is in my greens why would I vote him
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:39:37 AM
cuz he's not hunter and that's why you had him green lmfaoToday’s Expectationdid you even like
Oricorio - 3 - Sam, Luka, RDB
Rondo - 2 - Ex, Oricorio
Ex - 1 - Rem
read my posts
it literally says rondo is in my greens why would I vote him
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:40:00 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:41:11 AM
and u wanna save ur bestie oricorio probablyI already told you I do not like him as a person
I am townreading him because his D1 EoD was extremely townie, he was the the one that originally made the Sugar Moon lynch viable and I doubt he has the balls to do a stupid bus like this as mafia
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 02:41:35 AM
Vote: RemSelf votes are lame
*snore*
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:42:03 AM
will u apologize to me post game :(and u wanna save ur bestie oricorio probablyI already told you I do not like him as a person
I am townreading him because his D1 EoD was extremely townie, he was the the one that originally made the Sugar Moon lynch viable and I doubt he has the balls to do a stupid bus like this as mafia
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:42:15 AM
vote me already duck, so I can forget about this game and go to sleepVote: RemSelf votes are lame
*snore*
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:42:30 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 02:42:57 AM
Good lynch, but I would have liked a bit more spew out of them. I'll analyze their interactions once I have access to my laptop. Unless Luka is the last wolf, there was bussing here which does make sense given that they could shut down town discussion early and Winter was likely a liability after barely scraping by D2.Why golden is town for how they approached me. I like the way things are
For now, Vote: RondoDimBuckle. If you're actually serious about your claim, stop pussyfooting around it and confront Golden. Otherwise, I'm gonna assume you're full of shit.
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:43:08 AM
i'll hammer rem for funidt oricorio has the balls
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 02:43:15 AM
Not too opposed to that idea honestly, except for the fact that I still don't like early hammersvote me already duck, so I can forget about this game and go to sleepVote: RemSelf votes are lame
*snore*
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:43:27 AM
aw he didnti'll hammer rem for funidt oricorio has the balls
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:43:42 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:43:59 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 02:44:18 AM
Why would you expect me to when I've made my opposition to hammering clear?aw he didnti'll hammer rem for funidt oricorio has the balls
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:44:26 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:44:29 AM
no cuz I don't think I offended you over it?will u apologize to me post game :(and u wanna save ur bestie oricorio probablyI already told you I do not like him as a person
I am townreading him because his D1 EoD was extremely townie, he was the the one that originally made the Sugar Moon lynch viable and I doubt he has the balls to do a stupid bus like this as mafia
I'm 97% sure he's town and I'll stick with my read til the end cuz if I keep getting paranoid of my reads I'll lose my edge which been p sharp so far
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:44:42 AM
yeah, your position is that you don't have the balls, we get itWhy would you expect me to when I've made my opposition to hammering clear?aw he didnti'll hammer rem for funidt oricorio has the balls
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 02:44:59 AM
oricorio i'll do it i promise u will be in a really good positionYou're the one that's pussyfooting around. Actually commit to your votes here.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 02:45:11 AM
Ftr I am, like, now going to genuinely hardclaim HunterOh well shit. I retract
Rondo, CC or Retract
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:45:29 AM
it makes me really sad that you will not vote the mafia :(no cuz I don't think I offended you over it?will u apologize to me post game :(and u wanna save ur bestie oricorio probablyI already told you I do not like him as a person
I am townreading him because his D1 EoD was extremely townie, he was the the one that originally made the Sugar Moon lynch viable and I doubt he has the balls to do a stupid bus like this as mafia
I'm 97% sure he's town and I'll stick with my read til the end cuz if I keep getting paranoid of my reads I'll lose my edge which been p sharp so far
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:45:47 AM
nah it's ok i already retracted ur good lolFtr I am, like, now going to genuinely hardclaim HunterOh well shit. I retract
Rondo, CC or Retract
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:45:56 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:46:12 AM
oh darn guys i haven't been committing to my votesoricorio i'll do it i promise u will be in a really good positionYou're the one that's pussyfooting around. Actually commit to your votes here.
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 02:46:14 AM
At least I have a brainyeah, your position is that you don't have the balls, we get itWhy would you expect me to when I've made my opposition to hammering clear?aw he didnti'll hammer rem for funidt oricorio has the balls
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:46:39 AM
ooo rem are u gonna just take that broAt least I have a brainyeah, your position is that you don't have the balls, we get itWhy would you expect me to when I've made my opposition to hammering clear?aw he didnti'll hammer rem for funidt oricorio has the balls
me personally i would not let this slide
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:47:05 AM
if hunter is none of you I'll have a fucking strokenah it's ok i already retracted ur good lolFtr I am, like, now going to genuinely hardclaim HunterOh well shit. I retract
Rondo, CC or Retract
also scum had two nights to rolecop so they might already know who the hunter is so can we like please tone the claim shenanigans down next phase
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:47:36 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FooV8RLaIAAU7An.png)ooo rem are u gonna just take that broAt least I have a brainyeah, your position is that you don't have the balls, we get itWhy would you expect me to when I've made my opposition to hammering clear?aw he didnti'll hammer rem for funidt oricorio has the balls
me personally i would not let this slide
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:47:45 AM
holy fuck LMAOAt least I have a brainyeah, your position is that you don't have the balls, we get itWhy would you expect me to when I've made my opposition to hammering clear?aw he didnti'll hammer rem for funidt oricorio has the balls
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:47:55 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:48:12 AM
too hard for you? pretty boyif hunter is none of you I'll have a fucking strokenah it's ok i already retracted ur good lolFtr I am, like, now going to genuinely hardclaim HunterOh well shit. I retract
Rondo, CC or Retract
also scum had two nights to rolecop so they might already know who the hunter is so can we like please tone the claim shenanigans down next phase
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 02:48:17 AM
From my experience with Golden I would actually not be surprised if he was scum despite fakeclaiming to be the Hunter since he seems to enjoy WIFOM and unorthodox plays a loti think this is a wolfy post ngl
I wouldn't prioritize his lynch because, well, it's WIFOM. And I'd like to believe he doesn't implode his own team like this.
To me the one that looks the worst here is Rem since they kept throwing shade at the people pushing for Sugar when they moved to Red, and during his pushes on D2 kept trying for the Towncore me/Loone and away from Wintermoot.
Rondo looks good despite the awkward D2 flashwagon into the seer.
Ori looks good for reasons I mentioned before already regarding the D1 lynch.
Luka I'm, uh, null at best.
Golden hard townreading them makes me a bit weirded out because it could be pocketing, but in case it isn't then it makes me wanna point a "If Golden flips Town then Luka is likely Town" here.
As a rainbow list:
ExLight
Oricorio
RondoDimBuckle
Luka
GoldenOne
Rem
for me it's Ex/Oricorio/rondoI feel like this post is wolfy because I am in the poe but if rem flips town ex looks bad but I like how ex has been playing
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:48:41 AM
wow this player is definitely scum and not towny at all you should probably vote them oricorio(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FooV8RLaIAAU7An.png)ooo rem are u gonna just take that broAt least I have a brainyeah, your position is that you don't have the balls, we get itWhy would you expect me to when I've made my opposition to hammering clear?aw he didnti'll hammer rem for funidt oricorio has the balls
me personally i would not let this slide
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:49:03 AM
it's just oricorio RDB don't worry about it too muchFrom my experience with Golden I would actually not be surprised if he was scum despite fakeclaiming to be the Hunter since he seems to enjoy WIFOM and unorthodox plays a loti think this is a wolfy post ngl
I wouldn't prioritize his lynch because, well, it's WIFOM. And I'd like to believe he doesn't implode his own team like this.
To me the one that looks the worst here is Rem since they kept throwing shade at the people pushing for Sugar when they moved to Red, and during his pushes on D2 kept trying for the Towncore me/Loone and away from Wintermoot.
Rondo looks good despite the awkward D2 flashwagon into the seer.
Ori looks good for reasons I mentioned before already regarding the D1 lynch.
Luka I'm, uh, null at best.
Golden hard townreading them makes me a bit weirded out because it could be pocketing, but in case it isn't then it makes me wanna point a "If Golden flips Town then Luka is likely Town" here.
As a rainbow list:
ExLight
Oricorio
RondoDimBuckle
Luka
GoldenOne
Remfor me it's Ex/Oricorio/rondoI feel like this post is wolfy because I am in the poe but if rem flips town ex looks bad but I like how ex has been playing
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:49:06 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 02:49:14 AM
Today’s ExpectationOh shit yeah I forgot to ask abbi who is in charge of me when she dies so it'll just be you and nominate who is next.
Oricorio - 3 - Sam, Luka, RDB
Rondo - 2 - Ex, Oricorio
Ex - 1 - Rem
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 02:49:22 AM
You vote them if you think they're so scummywow this player is definitely scum and not towny at all you should probably vote them oricorio(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FooV8RLaIAAU7An.png)ooo rem are u gonna just take that broAt least I have a brainyeah, your position is that you don't have the balls, we get itWhy would you expect me to when I've made my opposition to hammering clear?aw he didnti'll hammer rem for funidt oricorio has the balls
me personally i would not let this slide
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 02:49:35 AM
@Rondo vote me or no ballsNot allowed to
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:49:40 AM
nah i like the claim shenanigansthey're just being harmful to town because it's getting in the way of proper discussion
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:49:54 AM
no uYou vote them if you think they're so scummywow this player is definitely scum and not towny at all you should probably vote them oricorio(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FooV8RLaIAAU7An.png)ooo rem are u gonna just take that broAt least I have a brainyeah, your position is that you don't have the balls, we get itWhy would you expect me to when I've made my opposition to hammering clear?aw he didnti'll hammer rem for funidt oricorio has the balls
me personally i would not let this slide
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:50:11 AM
the proper discussion is that rondo and i are both hunter and both conf townnah i like the claim shenanigansthey're just being harmful to town because it's getting in the way of proper discussion
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:50:18 AM
huh?@Rondo vote me or no ballsNot allowed to
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:50:20 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:50:37 AM
wow the lack of balls in this thread is stunningjust u and me bro
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 02:50:49 AM
Lamethe proper discussion is that rondo and i are both hunter and both conf townnah i like the claim shenanigansthey're just being harmful to town because it's getting in the way of proper discussion
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:50:57 AM
no, it's getting in the way of the scum figuring out who is the real onenah i like the claim shenanigansthey're just being harmful to town because it's getting in the way of proper discussion
stfu
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:51:51 AM
sorry i am not going to tell you who hunter is because if you live today i want you to accidentally kill meLamethe proper discussion is that rondo and i are both hunter and both conf townnah i like the claim shenanigansthey're just being harmful to town because it's getting in the way of proper discussion
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:52:00 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:52:41 AM
take your ticket to f4-f3 while you can
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:53:01 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 02:53:15 AM
Wait I am losing track is ex now claiming hunter too?for me it's Ex/Oricorio/rondoah yes the person that aggressively caused both wolves to get lynched and the hunter claim
I can hardly not interpret you constantly pushing for literally the towniest people all game as anything but scummy as fuck
Vote: Rem
if you're town you're playing one of the worst games I've ever seen because you're too busy tunneling based on nonsense pettiness and you should REALLY be reevaluating how you play
Post by: Oricorio on January 27, 2024, 02:53:26 AM
You're hunter, you're hunter, I'm hunter‽ Are there any other hunters I should know about?sorry i am not going to tell you who hunter is because if you live today i want you to accidentally kill meLamethe proper discussion is that rondo and i are both hunter and both conf townnah i like the claim shenanigansthey're just being harmful to town because it's getting in the way of proper discussion
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:53:35 AM
noWait I am losing track is ex now claiming hunter too?for me it's Ex/Oricorio/rondoah yes the person that aggressively caused both wolves to get lynched and the hunter claim
I can hardly not interpret you constantly pushing for literally the towniest people all game as anything but scummy as fuck
Vote: Rem
if you're town you're playing one of the worst games I've ever seen because you're too busy tunneling based on nonsense pettiness and you should REALLY be reevaluating how you play
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:53:57 AM
yeah luka is hunter tooYou're hunter, you're hunter, I'm hunter‽ Are there any other hunters I should know about?sorry i am not going to tell you who hunter is because if you live today i want you to accidentally kill meLamethe proper discussion is that rondo and i are both hunter and both conf townnah i like the claim shenanigansthey're just being harmful to town because it's getting in the way of proper discussion
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:54:08 AM
and that I'm probably peeked
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:54:12 AM
there's a p decent chance scum rolecopped rondo N2 after the fake power role claim D2 and that they know which one is faking itno, it's getting in the way of the scum figuring out who is the real onenah i like the claim shenanigansthey're just being harmful to town because it's getting in the way of proper discussion
stfu
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 02:54:23 AM
Wolf outing?vote me already duck, so I can forget about this game and go to sleepVote: RemSelf votes are lame
*snore*
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:54:51 AM
oh yeah OOPS you got me, now voteWolf outing?vote me already duck, so I can forget about this game and go to sleepVote: RemSelf votes are lame
*snore*
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:55:11 AM
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:55:22 AM
my lips are sealed I won't claim shit regardlessWait I am losing track is ex now claiming hunter too?for me it's Ex/Oricorio/rondoah yes the person that aggressively caused both wolves to get lynched and the hunter claim
I can hardly not interpret you constantly pushing for literally the towniest people all game as anything but scummy as fuck
Vote: Rem
if you're town you're playing one of the worst games I've ever seen because you're too busy tunneling based on nonsense pettiness and you should REALLY be reevaluating how you play
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:55:52 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 02:56:11 AM
Hehehe on and on and on we go where hunter stops nobody knowsnah it's ok i already retracted ur good lolFtr I am, like, now going to genuinely hardclaim HunterOh well shit. I retract
Rondo, CC or Retract
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:56:17 AM
guys I want some more karma how do i get itmake better posts
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:56:31 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:56:42 AM
wow ur good at roastingguys I want some more karma how do i get itmake better posts
Post by: ExLight on January 27, 2024, 02:57:12 AM
no it's literally thatwow ur good at roastingguys I want some more karma how do i get itmake better posts
it's from when people like your posts
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:57:26 AM
oh ok @Luka can you like my postsno it's literally thatwow ur good at roastingguys I want some more karma how do i get itmake better posts
it's from when people like your posts
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:58:32 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 02:58:41 AM
Goldens gotta Tell me who I am voting and then who is in charge of my vote tomorrow when they diehuh?@Rondo vote me or no ballsNot allowed to
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:59:10 AM
golden is literally telling you to vote meGoldens gotta Tell me who I am voting and then who is in charge of my vote tomorrow when they diehuh?@Rondo vote me or no ballsNot allowed to
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 02:59:21 AM
You should vote Rem today and then Luka will be in charge of your voteGoldens gotta Tell me who I am voting and then who is in charge of my vote tomorrow when they diehuh?@Rondo vote me or no ballsNot allowed to
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 02:59:50 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 03:00:15 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 03:00:29 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 03:00:39 AM
https://youtu.be/FDEiOHUxhOk?si=Paxtpdk5mJ3p9-x2 (https://youtu.be/FDEiOHUxhOk?si=Paxtpdk5mJ3p9-x2)LET EM HAVE IT THEIR WAY
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 03:00:52 AM
Nah as soon as that seer flipped no one was role copping me I am cleanthere's a p decent chance scum rolecopped rondo N2 after the fake power role claim D2 and that they know which one is faking itno, it's getting in the way of the scum figuring out who is the real onenah i like the claim shenanigansthey're just being harmful to town because it's getting in the way of proper discussion
stfu
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 03:01:43 AM
hey mr road dark beetle can you vote rem so i can hammer them and then we can vote oricorio tomorrowSure thing just catching up then I'll vote them
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 03:02:40 AM
lil bro needs 2 days to read like 20 postshey mr road dark beetle can you vote rem so i can hammer them and then we can vote oricorio tomorrowSure thing just catching up then I'll vote them
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 03:02:50 AM
Yeah I also need who is in charge of me tomorrow Golden because they're not killing me its too obviousgolden is literally telling you to vote meGoldens gotta Tell me who I am voting and then who is in charge of my vote tomorrow when they diehuh?@Rondo vote me or no ballsNot allowed to
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 03:03:17 AM
Got itYou should vote Rem today and then Luka will be in charge of your voteGoldens gotta Tell me who I am voting and then who is in charge of my vote tomorrow when they diehuh?@Rondo vote me or no ballsNot allowed to
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 27, 2024, 03:03:36 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 03:04:11 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 03:04:14 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 03:04:30 AM
rem u wont be mad if i hammer u right, u know im not stupid enough to thrownop I want out tyvm
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 03:04:48 AM
thwap
Post by: GoldenOne on January 27, 2024, 03:05:03 AM
Post by: Rem on January 27, 2024, 03:05:18 AM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 27, 2024, 03:07:15 AM
Thread locked
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 27, 2024, 03:22:25 PM
Night 4 starts.
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 28, 2024, 11:02:16 PM
It's now Day 5. It's 3v1 and majority is 3!
Post by: Oricorio on January 28, 2024, 11:03:42 PM
I have more than a few words for Rem in the postgame, but y'all should've been smarter than that. We did not have to be in MyLo.
Post by: Oricorio on January 28, 2024, 11:05:17 PM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 28, 2024, 11:08:32 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 28, 2024, 11:11:33 PM
Vote: No LynchI mean, technically it's not exactly MyLo, as the wolf can shoot the hunter and if the hunter misses their shot, it's game over even with a no lynch. Something we have to consider, as at least lynching today will put the kill in the hands of the whole town.
Post by: Oricorio on January 28, 2024, 11:12:28 PM
Vote: No LynchAnd are you gonna rescind (for real this time) or be steadfast in your claim? The way you're halfassing it ain't cutting it right now
Post by: Oricorio on January 28, 2024, 11:13:57 PM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 28, 2024, 11:33:27 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 28, 2024, 11:36:06 PM
Orcorio its basically you vs Exlite. You may as well just case them because out of me and golden, one is making it to lylo andd its going to be you two cross voting and golden or myself deciding the game.I'm not the one with a contradictory claim here, you are. Resolve that please.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 28, 2024, 11:43:45 PM
we could just end the game today and vote you thenOrcorio its basically you vs Exlite. You may as well just case them because out of me and golden, one is making it to lylo andd its going to be you two cross voting and golden or myself deciding the game.I'm not the one with a contradictory claim here, you are. Resolve that please.
Post by: Oricorio on January 28, 2024, 11:44:34 PM
Or vote you if you're clearly not taking this seriously. Why should I trust you again?we could just end the game today and vote you thenOrcorio its basically you vs Exlite. You may as well just case them because out of me and golden, one is making it to lylo andd its going to be you two cross voting and golden or myself deciding the game.I'm not the one with a contradictory claim here, you are. Resolve that please.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 28, 2024, 11:48:03 PM
How can you not understand its about trusting you and exlite? Golden and I are, forgive the pun, Golden. I dont need to take this seriously because today is a waste of time for me and Golden.Or vote you if you're clearly not taking this seriously. Why should I trust you again?we could just end the game today and vote you thenOrcorio its basically you vs Exlite. You may as well just case them because out of me and golden, one is making it to lylo andd its going to be you two cross voting and golden or myself deciding the game.I'm not the one with a contradictory claim here, you are. Resolve that please.
Post by: Oricorio on January 28, 2024, 11:49:09 PM
Stop hiding behind Golden and give me something real here.How can you not understand its about trusting you and exlite? Golden and I are, forgive the pun, Golden. I dont need to take this seriously because today is a waste of time for me and Golden.Or vote you if you're clearly not taking this seriously. Why should I trust you again?we could just end the game today and vote you thenOrcorio its basically you vs Exlite. You may as well just case them because out of me and golden, one is making it to lylo andd its going to be you two cross voting and golden or myself deciding the game.I'm not the one with a contradictory claim here, you are. Resolve that please.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 28, 2024, 11:49:21 PM
Post by: Oricorio on January 28, 2024, 11:52:30 PM
In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:15:31 AM
I am Hunter. I am going to be on Oricorio tonight.
In the final 3, I am going to hammer Oricorio.
If you are RDB or ExLight, you may claim your win now.
Vote: No Lynch
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:16:31 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:17:50 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:18:33 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:19:09 AM
Oricorio, your only path to victory rn is to CC me and pray that by some miracle on god’s green earth some forsaken soul believes youOr I can tell you to stop being so tunneled. If you really are the hunter, you're walking your way to a loss
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:20:16 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:20:23 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:21:17 AM
You were the genius behind whatever the hell happened D4. Why should we trust you, especially if you're not gonna sit down and consider anything?I did not cause that
You and ExLight were the ones that caused that
Rem knows I do not throw there is ok with it
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:21:41 AM
Yeah gg you lostIf you're town, then a loss for me is a loss for you. Although given Rem's "performance", maybe town just wants to throw at this point
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:22:08 AM
Other than you, the mafia
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:22:36 AM
You fucking hammered that shit and wasted 15/16 of the day. And yet you're still on the same tunnel?You were the genius behind whatever the hell happened D4. Why should we trust you, especially if you're not gonna sit down and consider anything?I did not cause that
You and ExLight were the ones that caused that
Rem knows I do not throw there is ok with it
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:22:48 AM
Bro is trying to pretend I am not the hunter
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:23:03 AM
YesYou fucking hammered that shit and wasted 15/16 of the day. And yet you're still on the same tunnel?You were the genius behind whatever the hell happened D4. Why should we trust you, especially if you're not gonna sit down and consider anything?I did not cause that
You and ExLight were the ones that caused that
Rem knows I do not throw there is ok with it
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:23:15 AM
Anyone who wasn’t completely pocketed knew that RDB and Rem were villagersApparently, not you, since you voted Rem! Unless you're bragging about TMI?
Other than you, the mafia
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:23:30 AM
Vote: Oricorio
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:23:58 AM
“If you’re town”Why would you vote your townread if you are town? And RDB hasn't yet rescinded
Bro is trying to pretend I am not the hunter
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:24:02 AM
No, I stated Rem was town even as they were dyingAnyone who wasn’t completely pocketed knew that RDB and Rem were villagersApparently, not you, since you voted Rem! Unless you're bragging about TMI?
Other than you, the mafia
It’s just forum mafia things
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:24:27 AM
Wow you’re really good at mafia dang how could I have ever caught you“If you’re town”Why would you vote your townread if you are town? And RDB hasn't yet rescinded
Bro is trying to pretend I am not the hunter
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:25:08 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:25:35 AM
That's called either "throwing" or "blatantly wolfsiding". And I am supposed to be okay with your tunnel because?No, I stated Rem was town even as they were dyingAnyone who wasn’t completely pocketed knew that RDB and Rem were villagersApparently, not you, since you voted Rem! Unless you're bragging about TMI?
Other than you, the mafia
It’s just forum mafia things
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:26:27 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:29:58 AM
You’re doing a lot of solving and not a lot of finding the mafia
Who is it?
Take a stance, 1 person, make an enemy.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:30:33 AM
Cuz ur maf lol!I know you are but what am I? Seriously, if you are town you are throwing by continuing this death tunnel. I mean, I kind of see a world where you left me alive to win in LyLo, which is why you jumped on Rem so quickly despite tunneling me the whole time. Then again, in that world it's be on the real hunter RDB for completely failing to adequately push you
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:31:32 AM
OricorioMaybe it's not a bad thing to try and consider everything when we're in fucking LyLo? I don't know who gave you the idea that death tunneling is a good strategy but it just fucking isn't
You’re doing a lot of solving and not a lot of finding the mafia
Who is it?
Take a stance, 1 person, make an enemy.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:32:23 AM
when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:33:01 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:33:27 AM
My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:36:01 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:38:01 AM
why would I push someone I think is town?????Cuz ur maf lol!I know you are but what am I? Seriously, if you are town you are throwing by continuing this death tunnel. I mean, I kind of see a world where you left me alive to win in LyLo, which is why you jumped on Rem so quickly despite tunneling me the whole time. Then again, in that world it's be on the real hunter RDB for completely failing to adequately push you
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:38:32 AM
I don't know, ask Goldenwhy would I push someone I think is town?????Cuz ur maf lol!I know you are but what am I? Seriously, if you are town you are throwing by continuing this death tunnel. I mean, I kind of see a world where you left me alive to win in LyLo, which is why you jumped on Rem so quickly despite tunneling me the whole time. Then again, in that world it's be on the real hunter RDB for completely failing to adequately push you
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:38:41 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:39:06 AM
so?My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:39:55 AM
Also, if you are the real hunter, at this point you should try to get the other claim to retract at this point, regardless of how you read them. This is endgame, the confusion only hurts town at this point.why would I push someone I think is town?????Cuz ur maf lol!I know you are but what am I? Seriously, if you are town you are throwing by continuing this death tunnel. I mean, I kind of see a world where you left me alive to win in LyLo, which is why you jumped on Rem so quickly despite tunneling me the whole time. Then again, in that world it's be on the real hunter RDB for completely failing to adequately push you
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:40:21 AM
Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?so?My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:41:40 AM
Can you retract hunter so oricorio knows he’s doneI mean I can retract but it wont really change anything Oric still wont know who the real hunter is because we both trust each other so much that the real hunter would rescind anyway. So sure. Ill rescind. Oricorio your move. Now which one of us is villager? What if we both retract at the same time? What then?
This is literally pointless because we are Schrodinger's hunter till one of us is killed regardless of what the other says.
But sure. I rescind because this has been the best fps ive ever been part of
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:42:45 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:42:52 AM
You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?so?My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:44:31 AM
They can’t kill you or I anyways
If they kill you, exlight knows its 100% oriocorio and they’re doomed
If they kill me, they die
Lol!
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:45:45 AM
So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?so?My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:46:16 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:46:52 AM
So basically, you're rescinding, but not actually rescinding. Will you ever stop pussyfooting around this claim?Can you retract hunter so oricorio knows he’s doneI mean I can retract but it wont really change anything Oric still wont know who the real hunter is because we both trust each other so much that the real hunter would rescind anyway. So sure. Ill rescind. Oricorio your move. Now which one of us is villager? What if we both retract at the same time? What then?
This is literally pointless because we are Schrodinger's hunter till one of us is killed regardless of what the other says.
But sure. I rescind because this has been the best fps ive ever been part of
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:47:00 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:48:34 AM
Oricorio, you can’t ask people to give their actual thoughts when you still won’t out a wolfreadProbably in order from wolfiest to towniest RDB-Golden-ExLight. Unlike certain people though, I'm not in a death tunnel and actually want to consider every option, as I'm not sure if you're aware but this is LyLo and one wrong move loses the game.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:49:45 AM
Vote: No Lynch
Let’s see who it is :)
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:49:58 AM
Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?so?My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:50:03 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:50:38 AM
no? I thought I made that clearSo basically, you're rescinding, but not actually rescinding. Will you ever stop pussyfooting around this claim?Can you retract hunter so oricorio knows he’s doneI mean I can retract but it wont really change anything Oric still wont know who the real hunter is because we both trust each other so much that the real hunter would rescind anyway. So sure. Ill rescind. Oricorio your move. Now which one of us is villager? What if we both retract at the same time? What then?
This is literally pointless because we are Schrodinger's hunter till one of us is killed regardless of what the other says.
But sure. I rescind because this has been the best fps ive ever been part of
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:50:55 AM
This isn’t lylo, we still get a kill!If they kill the Hunter and the Hunter is wrong it is over anyway. Just saying
Vote: No Lynch
Let’s see who it is :)
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:51:01 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:51:25 AM
Yeah, let’s see how that goesThis isn’t lylo, we still get a kill!If they kill the Hunter and the Hunter is wrong it is over anyway. Just saying
Vote: No Lynch
Let’s see who it is :)
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:52:11 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:52:28 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:53:39 AM
You didn't give your vote away D2, that's not what happened so don't lie. By D3 Winter was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them. Why not make it look like you're giving your vote away, then you don't have to look like an obvious busser? At that point, there is really nothing to lose as long as you're following someone who won't vote you.Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?so?My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:54:01 AM
I think what’s even funnier is its pretty clear Oricorio didn’t rolecop us or else RDB dies last night and that just means ExLight was even more wrongto be fair after d1 seer vote I wouldnt have copped me either
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:54:44 AM
He was 2/3 tho so props, and we will still win so ExLight gets a victory passYou mean me right? In my pushing of the wolf team?
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:55:21 AM
Sorry who were you pushing D1?You didn't give your vote away D2, that's not what happened so don't lie. By D3 Winter was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them. Why not make it look like you're giving your vote away, then you don't have to look like an obvious busser? At that point, there is really nothing to lose as long as you're following someone who won't vote you.Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?so?My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:56:21 AM
Moon. You know, the first wolf that diedSorry who were you pushing D1?You didn't give your vote away D2, that's not what happened so don't lie. By D3 Winter was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them. Why not make it look like you're giving your vote away, then you don't have to look like an obvious busser? At that point, there is really nothing to lose as long as you're following someone who won't vote you.Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?so?My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:57:30 AM
Wintermoot: 5 (Rem, RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆, GoldenOne)
Oricorio: 1 (Luka)
No Vote (Never Voted): Wintermoot, Oricorio, Bellepi
Oh look at this, ExLite and Golden were bussing d3. the wolf must be one of you two. Oh no
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:58:21 AM
By D1 Sugar was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them.Moon. You know, the first wolf that diedSorry who were you pushing D1?You didn't give your vote away D2, that's not what happened so don't lie. By D3 Winter was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them. Why not make it look like you're giving your vote away, then you don't have to look like an obvious busser? At that point, there is really nothing to lose as long as you're following someone who won't vote you.Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?so?My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:58:43 AM
d3 voteAre you daft?
Wintermoot: 5 (Rem, RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆, GoldenOne)
Oricorio: 1 (Luka)
No Vote (Never Voted): Wintermoot, Oricorio, Bellepi
Oh look at this, ExLite and Golden were bussing d3. the wolf must be one of you two. Oh no
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 12:59:42 AM
Oricorio, I am never voting ExLight here. I think you obviously agree with that. That leaves you and RDB in the F3.
As a reasonable human being player, I am going to tell you that if you are wolf, please do not get your hopes up. I am likely going to vote you. I will however still give you the opportunity to plead your case as that’s fair and valid.
I don’t see RDB ever being scum here not only due to their FPS, but the tone of their posts is incredibly good and there’s some moves they make that are absolutely wild for scum to do.
I scumread you due to your lack of direction and the simple fact that your LAMIST (Look At Me I’m So Townie) behavior is much akin to that of a mafia who is doing his best to look town by just complaining about people doing “anti-town” things. Nothing about the Rem vote was anti-town. It got us a Luka flip faster and cemented ExLight as town. It was done specifically to drag my scumread (you) into a scenario where you’re forced to towntell or die. If you are town and frustrated about all of the things going on, I want you to find a mafia - not just point out all the scummy things and say “wow that’s scummy”.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 12:59:46 AM
I was pushing them since basically the beginning of the day. Maybe if you hadn't slanked D1 you would actually understand what happened in the gameBy D1 Sugar was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them.Moon. You know, the first wolf that diedSorry who were you pushing D1?You didn't give your vote away D2, that's not what happened so don't lie. By D3 Winter was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them. Why not make it look like you're giving your vote away, then you don't have to look like an obvious busser? At that point, there is really nothing to lose as long as you're following someone who won't vote you.Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?so?My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 12:59:54 AM
yes. if you think that isnt sarcasmd3 voteAre you daft?
Wintermoot: 5 (Rem, RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆, GoldenOne)
Oricorio: 1 (Luka)
No Vote (Never Voted): Wintermoot, Oricorio, Bellepi
Oh look at this, ExLite and Golden were bussing d3. the wolf must be one of you two. Oh no
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 01:01:00 AM
Nah I enjoyed having a weekend showing up a day late was great. I had to do literally nothing and a wolf was got. Wolves really shot themselves in the foot on that oneI was pushing them since basically the beginning of the day. Maybe if you hadn't slanked D1 you would actually understand what happened in the gameBy D1 Sugar was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them.Moon. You know, the first wolf that diedSorry who were you pushing D1?You didn't give your vote away D2, that's not what happened so don't lie. By D3 Winter was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them. Why not make it look like you're giving your vote away, then you don't have to look like an obvious busser? At that point, there is really nothing to lose as long as you're following someone who won't vote you.Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?so?My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.when was I anti town hammer?In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 01:08:44 AM
Anyways, lemme be actually dead serious now.Have you ever played with me before? I get the "LAMIST" accusation a lot, which is stupid because basic things like knowing your alignment is town and actually caring about town winning is considered "LAMIST" when it's basically just being town. What do you think I'm doing here but trying to find mafia? What do you want me to do here, just say "x is mafia" ad nauseum instead of trying to figure it out? Pushing people for responses is part of basic solving processes, and if ExLight was posting here I'd be doing it to them too (although I agree they're very unlikely to be mafia, given their pushes on the two flipped wolves so unless wolves have gone for a balls-to-the-wall "hard bus two teammates so the third endgames", which I doubt is a strategy they'd want to risk given the Seer in the setup, and even then that world makes no sense given that Winter apparently tried to save Moon, okay I think I just convinced myself into being okay with just leaving them as town. Wow that was a tangent)
Oricorio, I am never voting ExLight here. I think you obviously agree with that. That leaves you and RDB in the F3.
As a reasonable human being player, I am going to tell you that if you are wolf, please do not get your hopes up. I am likely going to vote you. I will however still give you the opportunity to plead your case as that’s fair and valid.
I don’t see RDB ever being scum here not only due to their FPS, but the tone of their posts is incredibly good and there’s some moves they make that are absolutely wild for scum to do.
I scumread you due to your lack of direction and the simple fact that your LAMIST (Look At Me I’m So Townie) behavior is much akin to that of a mafia who is doing his best to look town by just complaining about people doing “anti-town” things. Nothing about the Rem vote was anti-town. It got us a Luka flip faster and cemented ExLight as town. It was done specifically to drag my scumread (you) into a scenario where you’re forced to towntell or die. If you are town and frustrated about all of the things going on, I want you to find a mafia - not just point out all the scummy things and say “wow that’s scummy”.
I lost my train of thought here, but the point I'm trying to make here is when you get to LyLo you have to slow down a little and consider everything that happened throughout the game. I've solved games at LyLo before, but that didn't come by hard tunneling and sticking myself into assumptions I've made in previous phases.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 01:12:16 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 01:15:54 AM
If you vote NL, we can skip to F3 and you can automatically find the wolf - and then your casing should be easier, correct?
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 01:16:18 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/YdOKpYQ.png)Exlite is basically Bus to victory which is lol but also after d1 its not a winning stratergy to keep on the wolves so yeah its gotta be ori
I have killed exactly the same number of wolves as Ori so naturally I am the best one to take to lylo but its hilarious to me that ori went belly up and no voted the same day that winter did. And I was right. D1 there was 1 wolf on each wagon (project red/sugar/no vote)
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 01:17:51 AM
Oricorio, there’s a way to make this really easyBad deal. If you're honest about being the Hunter and targeting me, then the wolf can just shoot you and win the game.
If you vote NL, we can skip to F3 and you can automatically find the wolf - and then your casing should be easier, correct?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 01:18:30 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 01:18:44 AM
but also I am the hunter and targeting youOricorio, there’s a way to make this really easyBad deal. If you're honest about being the Hunter and targeting me, then the wolf can just shoot you and win the game.
If you vote NL, we can skip to F3 and you can automatically find the wolf - and then your casing should be easier, correct?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 01:19:08 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 01:19:16 AM
Wolf won’t have the balls to kill me tonight cuz I’m going to pick them dwNot something I'm willing to bet the game on, sorry
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 01:19:39 AM
The other option is me and Rondo just vote you today and you lose nmw alignment you areWolf won’t have the balls to kill me tonight cuz I’m going to pick them dwNot something I'm willing to bet the game on, sorry
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 01:20:12 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 01:20:45 AM
Or you could not be tunneled, ever consider that?The other option is me and Rondo just vote you today and you lose nmw alignment you areWolf won’t have the balls to kill me tonight cuz I’m going to pick them dwNot something I'm willing to bet the game on, sorry
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 01:20:54 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 01:21:08 AM
I’m definitely tunneled, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrongOr you could not be tunneled, ever consider that?The other option is me and Rondo just vote you today and you lose nmw alignment you areWolf won’t have the balls to kill me tonight cuz I’m going to pick them dwNot something I'm willing to bet the game on, sorry
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 01:21:56 AM
Considering who you're tunneling, yes it doesI’m definitely tunneled, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrongOr you could not be tunneled, ever consider that?The other option is me and Rondo just vote you today and you lose nmw alignment you areWolf won’t have the balls to kill me tonight cuz I’m going to pick them dwNot something I'm willing to bet the game on, sorry
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 01:23:07 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 01:24:47 AM
literally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreads
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 01:25:46 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 01:29:31 AM
literally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreads
I don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 01:30:35 AM
But of course you will respond saying you have no desire to sway me because you want to take me to lylo and try to paint me as the final wolf. Because you have been trying to pocket ExLite all game. Which is also why you wont flip on themliterally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreadsI don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 01:32:06 AM
Which is also why you are trying to paint me as bad today and want more time this day phase because you can gauge what ExLite is thinking and plan your lylo. Because from your position we are already cross voted and you want ExLite to pick meBut of course you will respond saying you have no desire to sway me because you want to take me to lylo and try to paint me as the final wolf. Because you have been trying to pocket ExLite all game. Which is also why you wont flip on themliterally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreadsI don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 01:33:34 AM
I could say the same for you and Golden, could I not? I'm trying to figure out who's the wolf, not take the "safest" option to survive the phase (which would be pointless if we mislynch anyway)But of course you will respond saying you have no desire to sway me because you want to take me to lylo and try to paint me as the final wolf. Because you have been trying to pocket ExLite all game. Which is also why you wont flip on themliterally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreadsI don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 01:48:38 AM
Ok hear me out. Neither of us are wolf. Seriously Golden is ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am and not a wolf. I am ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am not hunter after killing the seer and claiming seer and not a wolf. Either way you can be re-assured that neither of us are wolf because we have felt each other out and know the other is town. So if you are town. You need to adjust yourself and resign yourself to the fact that we are both cleared townI could say the same for you and Golden, could I not? I'm trying to figure out who's the wolf, not take the "safest" option to survive the phase (which would be pointless if we mislynch anyway)But of course you will respond saying you have no desire to sway me because you want to take me to lylo and try to paint me as the final wolf. Because you have been trying to pocket ExLite all game. Which is also why you wont flip on themliterally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreadsI don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 01:53:17 AM
Fuck im stupid
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 01:53:54 AM
Oricorio is trying to win this game by convincing exlight that it’s you, and then convincing exlight to take it to rng
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 01:54:26 AM
Why was Luka killed over ExLight?
Because Luka would listen to my read and vote Oricorio. ExLight would not.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 01:55:26 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 01:55:31 AM
Neither of you are "cleared". One of you might be, were it not for the CC'ing shenanigans. If you were truly hard claiming, I'd agree it'd be very ballsy for a wolf, but this weird pussyfooting seems more like a gambit to draw out the real PRs. Why not do that, when things were going so badly for the wolf team? It'd be much weirder if Golden did such a thing, hence why I have them above you, but it would not be completely unheard of for someone to say "screw it" when subbing into a slanking slot and just do something wild to get into the game. MR's posts give us nothing to work with, which doesn't help. One of the problems I have with solving here is that neither of you were around for D1, which means there is an entire section of the game I cannot adequately analyze, though it would fit in with my theory of wolves not being able to show up to defend Moon (Winter tried, but it was too little too late).Ok hear me out. Neither of us are wolf. Seriously Golden is ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am and not a wolf. I am ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am not hunter after killing the seer and claiming seer and not a wolf. Either way you can be re-assured that neither of us are wolf because we have felt each other out and know the other is town. So if you are town. You need to adjust yourself and resign yourself to the fact that we are both cleared townI could say the same for you and Golden, could I not? I'm trying to figure out who's the wolf, not take the "safest" option to survive the phase (which would be pointless if we mislynch anyway)But of course you will respond saying you have no desire to sway me because you want to take me to lylo and try to paint me as the final wolf. Because you have been trying to pocket ExLite all game. Which is also why you wont flip on themliterally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreadsI don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 01:58:38 AM
Rondo, Oricorio isn’t trying to win by convincing me or you its exlight, or even by convincing me it’s youYeah thats what Ive been saying all day
Oricorio is trying to win this game by convincing exlight that it’s you, and then convincing exlight to take it to rng
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 01:59:23 AM
Which suddenly makes 200x more senseTo have another mislynch option, perhaps? Y'all are the ones trying to get me to vote ExLight. It essentially gives you another way out. It may also have to do with them not having voted Rem yesterday, but that seems a little unlikely as neither of you have really pushed on that (granted, would be hypocritical if you did) (unless we're in a tinfoil ExLight world?). Overall, nightkills are always WIFOM, in my last wolf game I explicitly did a nightkill to frame someone even if it was not necessarily "optimal" from my perspective.
Why was Luka killed over ExLight?
Because Luka would listen to my read and vote Oricorio. ExLight would not.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 01:59:30 AM
Which suddenly makes 200x more sensewhy dont we just kill him today?
Why was Luka killed over ExLight?
Because Luka would listen to my read and vote Oricorio. ExLight would not.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:00:07 AM
In fact, Luka dying hard clears Rondo specifically because Rondo wins the game if ExLight is killedI didnt think of it like that but that makes sense, I thought it was because you said I was following Luka's vote in lylo
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:01:03 AM
Rondo, Oricorio isn’t trying to win by convincing me or you its exlight, or even by convincing me it’s youWhy would I want to convince you to vote my townread? I know you like to do it apparently but I don't play that way. Also, I'd like to be able to work with you here but you're hard tunneled
Oricorio is trying to win this game by convincing exlight that it’s you, and then convincing exlight to take it to rng
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:01:40 AM
why would I or Goldden want to draw out a PR the day before lylo? Specifically when that PR kills me when I kill it? That makes no senseNeither of you are "cleared". One of you might be, were it not for the CC'ing shenanigans. If you were truly hard claiming, I'd agree it'd be very ballsy for a wolf, but this weird pussyfooting seems more like a gambit to draw out the real PRs. Why not do that, when things were going so badly for the wolf team? It'd be much weirder if Golden did such a thing, hence why I have them above you, but it would not be completely unheard of for someone to say "screw it" when subbing into a slanking slot and just do something wild to get into the game. MR's posts give us nothing to work with, which doesn't help. One of the problems I have with solving here is that neither of you were around for D1, which means there is an entire section of the game I cannot adequately analyze, though it would fit in with my theory of wolves not being able to show up to defend Moon (Winter tried, but it was too little too late).Ok hear me out. Neither of us are wolf. Seriously Golden is ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am and not a wolf. I am ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am not hunter after killing the seer and claiming seer and not a wolf. Either way you can be re-assured that neither of us are wolf because we have felt each other out and know the other is town. So if you are town. You need to adjust yourself and resign yourself to the fact that we are both cleared townI could say the same for you and Golden, could I not? I'm trying to figure out who's the wolf, not take the "safest" option to survive the phase (which would be pointless if we mislynch anyway)But of course you will respond saying you have no desire to sway me because you want to take me to lylo and try to paint me as the final wolf. Because you have been trying to pocket ExLite all game. Which is also why you wont flip on themliterally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreadsI don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:02:46 AM
RDB, exlight is going to vote you and make it tied, making the game rngWhich suddenly makes 200x more sensewhy dont we just kill him today?
Why was Luka killed over ExLight?
Because Luka would listen to my read and vote Oricorio. ExLight would not.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:03:51 AM
If exlight skill issues, his fault not towns lol
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:04:05 AM
Firstly, the claims came two days before LyLo, secondly because wolves sometimes do stupid shit when they're desperate (see for instance DBP fakeclaiming town blocker in the game I played on FFR, and he even got away with it and had the real town blocker on his side for a while). It's not unheard ofwhy would I or Goldden want to draw out a PR the day before lylo? Specifically when that PR kills me when I kill it? That makes no senseNeither of you are "cleared". One of you might be, were it not for the CC'ing shenanigans. If you were truly hard claiming, I'd agree it'd be very ballsy for a wolf, but this weird pussyfooting seems more like a gambit to draw out the real PRs. Why not do that, when things were going so badly for the wolf team? It'd be much weirder if Golden did such a thing, hence why I have them above you, but it would not be completely unheard of for someone to say "screw it" when subbing into a slanking slot and just do something wild to get into the game. MR's posts give us nothing to work with, which doesn't help. One of the problems I have with solving here is that neither of you were around for D1, which means there is an entire section of the game I cannot adequately analyze, though it would fit in with my theory of wolves not being able to show up to defend Moon (Winter tried, but it was too little too late).Ok hear me out. Neither of us are wolf. Seriously Golden is ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am and not a wolf. I am ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am not hunter after killing the seer and claiming seer and not a wolf. Either way you can be re-assured that neither of us are wolf because we have felt each other out and know the other is town. So if you are town. You need to adjust yourself and resign yourself to the fact that we are both cleared townI could say the same for you and Golden, could I not? I'm trying to figure out who's the wolf, not take the "safest" option to survive the phase (which would be pointless if we mislynch anyway)But of course you will respond saying you have no desire to sway me because you want to take me to lylo and try to paint me as the final wolf. Because you have been trying to pocket ExLite all game. Which is also why you wont flip on themliterally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreadsI don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:04:16 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:05:56 AM
So the last time you saw me fake claim and be CCed I was town so this time I must be wolf and not town? Interesting logic thereFirstly, the claims came two days before LyLo, secondly because wolves sometimes do stupid shit when they're desperate (see for instance DBP fakeclaiming town blocker in the game I played on FFR, and he even got away with it and had the real town blocker on his side for a while). It's not unheard ofwhy would I or Goldden want to draw out a PR the day before lylo? Specifically when that PR kills me when I kill it? That makes no senseNeither of you are "cleared". One of you might be, were it not for the CC'ing shenanigans. If you were truly hard claiming, I'd agree it'd be very ballsy for a wolf, but this weird pussyfooting seems more like a gambit to draw out the real PRs. Why not do that, when things were going so badly for the wolf team? It'd be much weirder if Golden did such a thing, hence why I have them above you, but it would not be completely unheard of for someone to say "screw it" when subbing into a slanking slot and just do something wild to get into the game. MR's posts give us nothing to work with, which doesn't help. One of the problems I have with solving here is that neither of you were around for D1, which means there is an entire section of the game I cannot adequately analyze, though it would fit in with my theory of wolves not being able to show up to defend Moon (Winter tried, but it was too little too late).Ok hear me out. Neither of us are wolf. Seriously Golden is ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am and not a wolf. I am ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am not hunter after killing the seer and claiming seer and not a wolf. Either way you can be re-assured that neither of us are wolf because we have felt each other out and know the other is town. So if you are town. You need to adjust yourself and resign yourself to the fact that we are both cleared townI could say the same for you and Golden, could I not? I'm trying to figure out who's the wolf, not take the "safest" option to survive the phase (which would be pointless if we mislynch anyway)But of course you will respond saying you have no desire to sway me because you want to take me to lylo and try to paint me as the final wolf. Because you have been trying to pocket ExLite all game. Which is also why you wont flip on themliterally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreadsI don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:07:37 AM
When did I say anything remotely like that? Are the misinterpretations intentional at this point?So the last time you saw me fake claim and be CCed I was town so this time I must be wolf and not town? Interesting logic thereFirstly, the claims came two days before LyLo, secondly because wolves sometimes do stupid shit when they're desperate (see for instance DBP fakeclaiming town blocker in the game I played on FFR, and he even got away with it and had the real town blocker on his side for a while). It's not unheard ofwhy would I or Goldden want to draw out a PR the day before lylo? Specifically when that PR kills me when I kill it? That makes no senseNeither of you are "cleared". One of you might be, were it not for the CC'ing shenanigans. If you were truly hard claiming, I'd agree it'd be very ballsy for a wolf, but this weird pussyfooting seems more like a gambit to draw out the real PRs. Why not do that, when things were going so badly for the wolf team? It'd be much weirder if Golden did such a thing, hence why I have them above you, but it would not be completely unheard of for someone to say "screw it" when subbing into a slanking slot and just do something wild to get into the game. MR's posts give us nothing to work with, which doesn't help. One of the problems I have with solving here is that neither of you were around for D1, which means there is an entire section of the game I cannot adequately analyze, though it would fit in with my theory of wolves not being able to show up to defend Moon (Winter tried, but it was too little too late).Ok hear me out. Neither of us are wolf. Seriously Golden is ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am and not a wolf. I am ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am not hunter after killing the seer and claiming seer and not a wolf. Either way you can be re-assured that neither of us are wolf because we have felt each other out and know the other is town. So if you are town. You need to adjust yourself and resign yourself to the fact that we are both cleared townI could say the same for you and Golden, could I not? I'm trying to figure out who's the wolf, not take the "safest" option to survive the phase (which would be pointless if we mislynch anyway)But of course you will respond saying you have no desire to sway me because you want to take me to lylo and try to paint me as the final wolf. Because you have been trying to pocket ExLite all game. Which is also why you wont flip on themliterally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreadsI don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:08:54 AM
You have been calling me wolf all day phase. How is it a misinterpretation?When did I say anything remotely like that? Are the misinterpretations intentional at this point?So the last time you saw me fake claim and be CCed I was town so this time I must be wolf and not town? Interesting logic thereFirstly, the claims came two days before LyLo, secondly because wolves sometimes do stupid shit when they're desperate (see for instance DBP fakeclaiming town blocker in the game I played on FFR, and he even got away with it and had the real town blocker on his side for a while). It's not unheard ofwhy would I or Goldden want to draw out a PR the day before lylo? Specifically when that PR kills me when I kill it? That makes no senseNeither of you are "cleared". One of you might be, were it not for the CC'ing shenanigans. If you were truly hard claiming, I'd agree it'd be very ballsy for a wolf, but this weird pussyfooting seems more like a gambit to draw out the real PRs. Why not do that, when things were going so badly for the wolf team? It'd be much weirder if Golden did such a thing, hence why I have them above you, but it would not be completely unheard of for someone to say "screw it" when subbing into a slanking slot and just do something wild to get into the game. MR's posts give us nothing to work with, which doesn't help. One of the problems I have with solving here is that neither of you were around for D1, which means there is an entire section of the game I cannot adequately analyze, though it would fit in with my theory of wolves not being able to show up to defend Moon (Winter tried, but it was too little too late).Ok hear me out. Neither of us are wolf. Seriously Golden is ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am and not a wolf. I am ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am not hunter after killing the seer and claiming seer and not a wolf. Either way you can be re-assured that neither of us are wolf because we have felt each other out and know the other is town. So if you are town. You need to adjust yourself and resign yourself to the fact that we are both cleared townI could say the same for you and Golden, could I not? I'm trying to figure out who's the wolf, not take the "safest" option to survive the phase (which would be pointless if we mislynch anyway)But of course you will respond saying you have no desire to sway me because you want to take me to lylo and try to paint me as the final wolf. Because you have been trying to pocket ExLite all game. Which is also why you wont flip on themliterally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreadsI don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:10:21 AM
I've only seen you town in one game before, and I don't think you fakeclaimed in that one (besides pretending to openwolf), unless I've played with you under a different name?You have been calling me wolf all day phase. How is it a misinterpretation?When did I say anything remotely like that? Are the misinterpretations intentional at this point?So the last time you saw me fake claim and be CCed I was town so this time I must be wolf and not town? Interesting logic thereFirstly, the claims came two days before LyLo, secondly because wolves sometimes do stupid shit when they're desperate (see for instance DBP fakeclaiming town blocker in the game I played on FFR, and he even got away with it and had the real town blocker on his side for a while). It's not unheard ofwhy would I or Goldden want to draw out a PR the day before lylo? Specifically when that PR kills me when I kill it? That makes no senseNeither of you are "cleared". One of you might be, were it not for the CC'ing shenanigans. If you were truly hard claiming, I'd agree it'd be very ballsy for a wolf, but this weird pussyfooting seems more like a gambit to draw out the real PRs. Why not do that, when things were going so badly for the wolf team? It'd be much weirder if Golden did such a thing, hence why I have them above you, but it would not be completely unheard of for someone to say "screw it" when subbing into a slanking slot and just do something wild to get into the game. MR's posts give us nothing to work with, which doesn't help. One of the problems I have with solving here is that neither of you were around for D1, which means there is an entire section of the game I cannot adequately analyze, though it would fit in with my theory of wolves not being able to show up to defend Moon (Winter tried, but it was too little too late).Ok hear me out. Neither of us are wolf. Seriously Golden is ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am and not a wolf. I am ballsy as fuck to call hunter if I am not hunter after killing the seer and claiming seer and not a wolf. Either way you can be re-assured that neither of us are wolf because we have felt each other out and know the other is town. So if you are town. You need to adjust yourself and resign yourself to the fact that we are both cleared townI could say the same for you and Golden, could I not? I'm trying to figure out who's the wolf, not take the "safest" option to survive the phase (which would be pointless if we mislynch anyway)But of course you will respond saying you have no desire to sway me because you want to take me to lylo and try to paint me as the final wolf. Because you have been trying to pocket ExLite all game. Which is also why you wont flip on themliterally the only chance you have is casing exliteWhy would I do that when they're obviously town here? Unlike certain people, I don't vote my townreadsI don't know why you are asking me to "find a wolf" when you're also asking me to go after the towniest player herefrom my point of view. Golden has to be town. Which leaves you and ExLite regardless of play or votes. So when I take ExLite out because they have been the MOST towny out of the two of you, then that leaves you. So thats why I am saying your only chance to sway me is to case ExLite. If you are CONFIRMING they are town. Because their is only one wolf left. That means it HAS to be you as the final wolf.
THAT is what I mean by your only chance is to case ExLite.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:12:00 AM
And RDB
You realize this discussion does not matter anymore right
You are now lock wolf to each other
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:15:55 AM
Oricorio, vote Rondo please.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:17:46 AM
Hey OricorioYeah I am just getting content in for tomorrow in case it does go to lylo
And RDB
You realize this discussion does not matter anymore right
You are now lock wolf to each other
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:18:17 AM
Hence me having voted themHey OricorioYeah I am just getting content in for tomorrow in case it does go to lylo
And RDB
You realize this discussion does not matter anymore right
You are now lock wolf to each other
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:18:25 AM
Just go along with this, and do as I say ok
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:18:36 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:19:06 AM
I have a game winning ideaWhy should I trust you here?
Oricorio, vote Rondo please.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:19:49 AM
Rondo, you trust me right?You even have to ask the question? lol
Just go along with this, and do as I say ok
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:19:53 AM
…because I’m hunter?I have a game winning ideaWhy should I trust you here?
Oricorio, vote Rondo please.
and you have a lock wolf?
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:20:39 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:20:56 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:21:13 AM
I mean, I think RDB's the more likely wolf, but I'm not fully willing to discount you just yet. Still, Vote: RondoDimBuckle since a hammer seems unlikely for now…because I’m hunter?I have a game winning ideaWhy should I trust you here?
Oricorio, vote Rondo please.
and you have a lock wolf?
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:21:47 AM
Rondo, I would like you to self vote for 15 seconds.
I need you to trust me.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:22:00 AM
Idt you know what hunter means btwI mean, I think RDB's the more likely wolf, but I'm not fully willing to discount you just yet. Still, Vote: RondoDimBuckle since a hammer seems unlikely for now…because I’m hunter?I have a game winning ideaWhy should I trust you here?
Oricorio, vote Rondo please.
and you have a lock wolf?
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:22:18 AM
AlrightSelf-voting is lame
Rondo, I would like you to self vote for 15 seconds.
I need you to trust me.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:22:25 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:22:58 AM
There’s a point to it this time!AlrightSelf-voting is lame
Rondo, I would like you to self vote for 15 seconds.
I need you to trust me.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:23:32 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:23:36 AM
Alrightlol sure, I dont care if you're wolf Ive had fun this game. But also there is 0 chance you are wolf.
Rondo, I would like you to self vote for 15 seconds.
I need you to trust me.
If Exlite is wolf and sneaking around, that would be even more hilarious hahaVote: RondoDimBuckle
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:23:54 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:24:05 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:24:11 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:24:24 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:24:44 AM
I am not hunter.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:25:01 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:25:51 AM
Rondo, please reveal your role to the town.HAHAHAHA You're not hunter?! HAHAHAHAHA I am town just regular old no hunter town.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:26:17 AM
RondoDimBuckle is the Hunter. They are confirmed town.
I had hammer on Rondo, and did not hammer. I am also confirmed town.
This means that Rondo Dim Buckle and I are both confirmed town.
The wolf is either Oricorio or ExLight.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:26:32 AM
it's ok u can claimRondo, please reveal your role to the town.HAHAHAHA You're not hunter?! HAHAHAHAHA I am town just regular old no hunter town.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:27:00 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:27:16 AM
With me conf town and you conf town, it's gg
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:27:30 AM
When both of you have gone back and forth on hunter so much and never really confronted each other, you've basically lost all your cred. At this point, I wouldn't even be surprised if ExLight is hunter.Sorry bud, you're outta luck.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:27:51 AM
ok I am hunterit's ok u can claimRondo, please reveal your role to the town.HAHAHAHA You're not hunter?! HAHAHAHAHA I am town just regular old no hunter town.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:28:18 AM
I told you it was game winning
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:28:34 AM
we confirmed me town now RDB, there's no need to FPS any longerI was hoping I could get killed tonight
With me conf town and you conf town, it's gg
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:29:02 AM
Both of you are now claiming not to be hunter. I'm sorry, but there's definitely some bullshit going on. And given that RDB retracted so quickly, I wouldn't be surprised if you tried to vote them but were stopped.When both of you have gone back and forth on hunter so much and never really confronted each other, you've basically lost all your cred. At this point, I wouldn't even be surprised if ExLight is hunter.Sorry bud, you're outta luck.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:29:14 AM
There's no needwe confirmed me town now RDB, there's no need to FPS any longerI was hoping I could get killed tonight
With me conf town and you conf town, it's gg
By the way, with both of our votes on Oricorio, ExLight will be "clear" or just win the game immediately
Meaning it is always Oricorio.
MIC DROP.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:29:29 AM
I mean we can test it again if you'd likeBoth of you are now claiming not to be hunter. I'm sorry, but there's definitely some bullshit going on. And given that RDB retracted so quickly, I wouldn't be surprised if you tried to vote them but were stopped.When both of you have gone back and forth on hunter so much and never really confronted each other, you've basically lost all your cred. At this point, I wouldn't even be surprised if ExLight is hunter.Sorry bud, you're outta luck.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:29:41 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:31:01 AM
RDB you wanna prove oricorio is screwed w meVote: RondoDimBuckle
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:31:05 AM
Your argument is basically that you're town because you didn't hammer in a very narrow window? Not sure I could've capitalized as such in your positionThere's no needwe confirmed me town now RDB, there's no need to FPS any longerI was hoping I could get killed tonight
With me conf town and you conf town, it's gg
By the way, with both of our votes on Oricorio, ExLight will be "clear" or just win the game immediately
Meaning it is always Oricorio.
MIC DROP.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:31:22 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:31:36 AM
oh no i am hammering oh the humanityRDB you wanna prove oricorio is screwed w meVote: RondoDimBuckle
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:31:56 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:32:14 AM
oh dang wrong person sorry
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:32:21 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:32:33 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:32:43 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:32:50 AM
(You can go back to voting Oricorio now RDB)Vote: Oricorio
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:33:11 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:33:19 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:33:27 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:34:49 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:35:11 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:35:42 AM
I still don't see how this clears RDB. It's risky, yes, but it was pretty obvious that it was a gambit to "confirm" RDB as town, and you can tell from the online list that ExLight isn't online anyway. Plus, if he really was the hunter, I don't think his reaction to the "revelation" would be so timidExLight being online does not matter for shit, and RDB is in fact 100% hunter.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:36:34 AM
yall gonna give me a strokeunless you're trying to tell me that this guy is the Hunter, of course
yall really need to keep these shenanigans that can result in our semi bomb role getting lynched
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:36:44 AM
I still don't see how this clears RDB. It's risky, yes, but it was pretty obvious that it was a gambit to "confirm" RDB as town, and you can tell from the online list that ExLight isn't online anyway. Plus, if he really was the hunter, I don't think his reaction to the "revelation" would be so timidI mean I am happy to do it with ExLite in thread
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:36:59 AM
There's no risk of a hammer if ExLight isn't online. And if RDB was the hunter here, they'd have more conviction. Not "I guess I'm vanilla town" or any crap like thatI still don't see how this clears RDB. It's risky, yes, but it was pretty obvious that it was a gambit to "confirm" RDB as town, and you can tell from the online list that ExLight isn't online anyway. Plus, if he really was the hunter, I don't think his reaction to the "revelation" would be so timidExLight being online does not matter for shit, and RDB is in fact 100% hunter.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:37:36 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:37:51 AM
At this point? Wouldn't 100% role it out. Though that could be resolved simply by ExLight showing up in the threadyall gonna give me a strokeunless you're trying to tell me that this guy is the Hunter, of course
yall really need to keep these shenanigans that can result in our semi bomb role getting lynched
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:37:55 AM
ExLight can still be wolf sure, but me and Rondo cannot.There's no risk of a hammer if ExLight isn't online. And if RDB was the hunter here, they'd have more conviction. Not "I guess I'm vanilla town" or any crap like thatI still don't see how this clears RDB. It's risky, yes, but it was pretty obvious that it was a gambit to "confirm" RDB as town, and you can tell from the online list that ExLight isn't online anyway. Plus, if he really was the hunter, I don't think his reaction to the "revelation" would be so timidExLight being online does not matter for shit, and RDB is in fact 100% hunter.
Rondo was at 2 votes. I posted 4-5 times. I am blatantly not wolf.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:38:16 AM
Vote me Oricorio.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:38:53 AM
I thought we were still playing the game of Golden is PR and I am not. Its actually more proof I am town because we are uncoordinated as fuckThere's no risk of a hammer if ExLight isn't online. And if RDB was the hunter here, they'd have more conviction. Not "I guess I'm vanilla town" or any crap like thatI still don't see how this clears RDB. It's risky, yes, but it was pretty obvious that it was a gambit to "confirm" RDB as town, and you can tell from the online list that ExLight isn't online anyway. Plus, if he really was the hunter, I don't think his reaction to the "revelation" would be so timidExLight being online does not matter for shit, and RDB is in fact 100% hunter.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:39:14 AM
it was quite funny honestlyI thought we were still playing the game of Golden is PR and I am not. Its actually more proof I am town because we are uncoordinated as fuckThere's no risk of a hammer if ExLight isn't online. And if RDB was the hunter here, they'd have more conviction. Not "I guess I'm vanilla town" or any crap like thatI still don't see how this clears RDB. It's risky, yes, but it was pretty obvious that it was a gambit to "confirm" RDB as town, and you can tell from the online list that ExLight isn't online anyway. Plus, if he really was the hunter, I don't think his reaction to the "revelation" would be so timidExLight being online does not matter for shit, and RDB is in fact 100% hunter.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:39:46 AM
There's only one wolf. You are obviously going to be uncoordinated. This is a bad argument.I thought we were still playing the game of Golden is PR and I am not. Its actually more proof I am town because we are uncoordinated as fuckThere's no risk of a hammer if ExLight isn't online. And if RDB was the hunter here, they'd have more conviction. Not "I guess I'm vanilla town" or any crap like thatI still don't see how this clears RDB. It's risky, yes, but it was pretty obvious that it was a gambit to "confirm" RDB as town, and you can tell from the online list that ExLight isn't online anyway. Plus, if he really was the hunter, I don't think his reaction to the "revelation" would be so timidExLight being online does not matter for shit, and RDB is in fact 100% hunter.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:40:26 AM
You and Golden vote golden. Watch me not vote goldenThere's only one wolf. You are obviously going to be uncoordinated. This is a bad argument.I thought we were still playing the game of Golden is PR and I am not. Its actually more proof I am town because we are uncoordinated as fuckThere's no risk of a hammer if ExLight isn't online. And if RDB was the hunter here, they'd have more conviction. Not "I guess I'm vanilla town" or any crap like thatI still don't see how this clears RDB. It's risky, yes, but it was pretty obvious that it was a gambit to "confirm" RDB as town, and you can tell from the online list that ExLight isn't online anyway. Plus, if he really was the hunter, I don't think his reaction to the "revelation" would be so timidExLight being online does not matter for shit, and RDB is in fact 100% hunter.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:40:37 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:40:49 AM
In fact, wanna confirm RDB is Hunter right now?I'm done playing your games. I'm not gonna risk an early hammer here.
Vote me Oricorio.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:41:04 AM
Yeah rightYou and Golden vote golden. Watch me not vote goldenThere's only one wolf. You are obviously going to be uncoordinated. This is a bad argument.I thought we were still playing the game of Golden is PR and I am not. Its actually more proof I am town because we are uncoordinated as fuckThere's no risk of a hammer if ExLight isn't online. And if RDB was the hunter here, they'd have more conviction. Not "I guess I'm vanilla town" or any crap like thatI still don't see how this clears RDB. It's risky, yes, but it was pretty obvious that it was a gambit to "confirm" RDB as town, and you can tell from the online list that ExLight isn't online anyway. Plus, if he really was the hunter, I don't think his reaction to the "revelation" would be so timidExLight being online does not matter for shit, and RDB is in fact 100% hunter.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:41:17 AM
Vote: GoldenOneswitch off after a minute or two I am at work so a bit distracted atm so dont leave it open too long
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:41:23 AM
at least exlight will end the game asap
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:41:31 AM
he's not doing it dwVote: GoldenOneswitch off after a minute or two I am at work so a bit distracted atm so dont leave it open too long
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:41:57 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:42:10 AM
Why don't you give me the opportunity to hammer? You realize why this is a stupid strategy right?cuz ur wolf lol
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 02:42:43 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 02:42:48 AM
You think I wouldn't say the same to RDB?Why don't you give me the opportunity to hammer? You realize why this is a stupid strategy right?cuz ur wolf lol
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:42:55 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:43:07 AM
no cuz he's hunterYou think I wouldn't say the same to RDB?Why don't you give me the opportunity to hammer? You realize why this is a stupid strategy right?cuz ur wolf lol
also @RDB fineeeee
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 04:52:18 AM
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 05:16:16 AM
ok i just cant help myself i'm FIENDING for the hammerNo early hammer. You saw what happened yesterday, and this time the whole game's on the line.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 05:31:22 AM
Ok but yesterday was funnyok i just cant help myself i'm FIENDING for the hammerNo early hammer. You saw what happened yesterday, and this time the whole game's on the line.
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 06:04:35 AM
Funny for the wolves maybeOk but yesterday was funnyok i just cant help myself i'm FIENDING for the hammerNo early hammer. You saw what happened yesterday, and this time the whole game's on the line.
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 06:41:09 AM
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 08:24:35 AM
Is.... is this thing on?
* feedback screech *
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 10:20:59 AM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 01:47:17 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:05:16 PM
lemme
catch up
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:06:42 PM
Rem was voted out! She was Villager.dude unironically thought claiming vanilla D1 was gonna townclear him LMAO
Night 4 starts.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:13:17 PM
Long story short
Rondo is hunter, and I had hammer on Rondo and didn’t use it
You can check to verify this is true
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:13:54 PM
And should just use it
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:14:42 PM
scum is just guaranteed to lose if hunter makes to late game
are we on F4? This is is potential LyLo if so because if scum shoots the Hunter and the Hunter takes down a Town then we lose, so we should probably consider that instead of auto piloting a No Lynch assuming it's MyLo
Orcorio its basically you vs Exlite. You may as well just case them because out of me and golden, one is making it to lylo andd its going to be you two cross voting and golden or myself deciding the game.Why do you think it cannot be Golden?
I played with him a couple times before and he was scum in both games and he liked fakeclaiming town power roles to pretend he was WIFOMing scum
Oricorio was a key voter and pusher on both scum lynches and so was I, so I'm confused as to why you think we're more likely to be scum?
Based on Golden's inconsistent push and worldbuilding around on us three during D3 I am much more comfortable going after him toDay
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:15:16 PM
ExLighthuge if true
Long story short
Rondo is hunter, and I had hammer on Rondo and didn’t use it
You can check to verify this is true
I'm catching up, sec
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:18:13 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:18:30 PM
@ExLight why are u yappin
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:19:54 PM
I'm not exactly convinced
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:20:42 PM
you had 18 seconds to hammer him lolKeep reading
I'm not exactly convinced
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:20:56 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:21:02 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:22:47 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:22:57 PM
it would be dumb for you to not hammer unless you misread how the hunter role works or unless you're the clowniest dude ever
Vote: Oricorio
if it's really Ori then sorry I got played hard lmfao
if it's not Ori then, well, gg to whoever it is
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:23:27 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:23:53 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:24:30 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:27:00 PM
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 29, 2024, 02:29:28 PM
Oricorio was...
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A Pokémon.
But what about their role?
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Werewolf! Good job, town! All werewolves are voted out!
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:29:50 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:29:57 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:32:11 PM
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:32:38 PM
nyehehehe i joined the game and bussed my aura werewolf knowing that rdb was hunter from our epic rolecop so that I could pocket him and claim victory over the townto be fair
I've done similar stuff
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:33:13 PM
me too, that's why it was believablenyehehehe i joined the game and bussed my aura werewolf knowing that rdb was hunter from our epic rolecop so that I could pocket him and claim victory over the townto be fair
I've done similar stuff
Post by: Caitlinuwu on January 29, 2024, 02:33:49 PM
Grace the Seer
GoldenOne the Hunter
Rondo the Villager
ExLight the Villager
Luka the Villager
Rem the Villager
Abigail the Villager
Loona the Villager
Projekt Red the Villager
Also a thanks to...
Wintermoot the Aura Werewolf
Oricorio the Werewolf
Sugar Moon the Werewolf
For playing the game! You may not have won, but hopefully you did have fun!
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:34:07 PM
aside from the D2 blunder I think Town played p well
shoutout to my boy Sam he was the MVP
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:34:29 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:35:14 PM
good game folksnah u got winter and SM, i just swooped in and stopped any pocket bs from happening cuz i had a new perspective
aside from the D2 blunder I think Town played p well
shoutout to my boy Sam he was the MVP
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:36:15 PM
would now be a good time to say i was actually hunter and made RDB claim it so you would hammer oricorioso much headache cuz they would just shoot me instead at night if we mislynched
the whole hunter thing was very useless and stressful lmfao
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:36:59 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:36:59 PM
i was actually kinda hoping that if you were wolf, you'd backread and shoot me instead of rondowould now be a good time to say i was actually hunter and made RDB claim it so you would hammer oricorioso much headache cuz they would just shoot me instead at night if we mislynched
the whole hunter thing was very useless and stressful lmfao
if oricorio was wolf, we win anyways
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 02:37:28 PM
yea that makes a lot of sensei was actually kinda hoping that if you were wolf, you'd backread and shoot me instead of rondowould now be a good time to say i was actually hunter and made RDB claim it so you would hammer oricorioso much headache cuz they would just shoot me instead at night if we mislynched
the whole hunter thing was very useless and stressful lmfao
if oricorio was wolf, we win anyways
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:37:34 PM
also probably major blunder not shooting the hunter asap but I guess they were in a tight spot with you tunneling moot/orio as the remaining scumyeah, idt i was ever checked which made them also have to carry RDB to the end
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:38:49 PM
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 02:48:25 PM
Post by: Rem on January 29, 2024, 03:13:34 PM
oh dear i just realized we quickhammered :( that was very anti-townGg Sam!
Post by: Rem on January 29, 2024, 03:15:16 PM
From my experience with Golden I would actually not be surprised if he was scum despite fakeclaiming to be the Hunter since he seems to enjoy WIFOM and unorthodox plays a lotGame losing poe that i did not want to deal with
I wouldn't prioritize his lynch because, well, it's WIFOM. And I'd like to believe he doesn't implode his own team like this.
To me the one that looks the worst here is Rem since they kept throwing shade at the people pushing for Sugar when they moved to Red, and during his pushes on D2 kept trying for the Towncore me/Loone and away from Wintermoot.
Rondo looks good despite the awkward D2 flashwagon into the seer.
Ori looks good for reasons I mentioned before already regarding the D1 lynch.
Luka I'm, uh, null at best.
Golden hard townreading them makes me a bit weirded out because it could be pocketing, but in case it isn't then it makes me wanna point a "If Golden flips Town then Luka is likely Town" here.
As a rainbow list:
ExLight
Oricorio
RondoDimBuckle
Luka
GoldenOne
Rem
Post by: Sugar Moon on January 29, 2024, 03:23:58 PM
My deepest apologies to everyone for that subpar D1 I swear that's not how I usually play and I feel terrible for leaving my fellow wolves at such a disadvantage.
Great job otherwise Wintermoot and Oricorio you both showed fantastic spirit!
Post by: ExLight on January 29, 2024, 05:41:13 PM
bruh you kept saying it was me/loona/red/rondo all game LMAOFrom my experience with Golden I would actually not be surprised if he was scum despite fakeclaiming to be the Hunter since he seems to enjoy WIFOM and unorthodox plays a lotGame losing poe that i did not want to deal with
I wouldn't prioritize his lynch because, well, it's WIFOM. And I'd like to believe he doesn't implode his own team like this.
To me the one that looks the worst here is Rem since they kept throwing shade at the people pushing for Sugar when they moved to Red, and during his pushes on D2 kept trying for the Towncore me/Loone and away from Wintermoot.
Rondo looks good despite the awkward D2 flashwagon into the seer.
Ori looks good for reasons I mentioned before already regarding the D1 lynch.
Luka I'm, uh, null at best.
Golden hard townreading them makes me a bit weirded out because it could be pocketing, but in case it isn't then it makes me wanna point a "If Golden flips Town then Luka is likely Town" here.
As a rainbow list:
ExLight
Oricorio
RondoDimBuckle
Luka
GoldenOne
Rem
get outta here
Post by: Oricorio on January 29, 2024, 07:02:50 PM
Ultimately, we had to deal with a lot of bad luck this game, from one of my partners being unable to defend themselves D1 to two subs coming in and completely changing the atmosphere of the thread to my other partner OGIing on me. Getting the cop was the one good move, but by then it had forced me into making two probably suboptimal kills (Projekt and Abby). (For the record, I didn't fully believe Projekt's claim, but killed them because they simply had the highest chance of flipping seer from my perspective, and the seer was just that much of a threat that I had to take that chance. It's not like they'd be CC'd when the seer would believe they are the hunter and the hunter would believe they were the seer). The setup would probably be a bit more balanced like this (NSMifying a bit):
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Aura Wolf - Each night, can target one player and determine their color.
3. Wolf
Humans
4. Seer - Each night, can target one player and determine their color.
5. Hunter - Each night, can target one player. If the Hunter is wolfed, their target dies too.
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Miller - Thinks they're a regular Human.
This setup would make it so green checks aren't clears and red checks aren't automatically outing. Such setups are typically intended to be played flipless, but you can play around this a bit by e.g. making alignments flip but not roles. Ultimately, the setup as it was severely limited wolves' options in a way that was not limiting at all for town, and despite us getting two strokes of good luck in getting the seer early on and Rem's implosion the bad luck had a far greater impact on our chances of winning the game.
Speaking of, Rem, that was active gamethrowing and something to be ashamed of. Sure, I appreciated it given my alignment, but bringing town into LyLo simply because you didn't want to play the game is completely unacceptable and is something many hosts would modkill/infract for. Seriously, there is less shame in slanking than whatever the hell you did. Please never do this again (unless your wincon is Jester or some shit).
Ultimately, probably never gonna play here again. Sorry, but the dinging is too much for me to get past, and while I know there is a way to turn it off it's a pain on mobile there's no option to do so on this website, and I don't want to always have to have my phone on mute just to play mafia. So I suppose this is goodbye, folks, but I'll still be around on other websites.
Post by: GoldenOne on January 29, 2024, 07:23:52 PM
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 29, 2024, 07:29:03 PM
oh dear i just realized we quickhammered :( that was very anti-townHammers win games
Post by: ☆ Princess Abigail ☆ on January 29, 2024, 07:30:13 PM
Post by: Rem on January 29, 2024, 09:40:38 PM
it's called re-evaluatingbruh you kept saying it was me/loona/red/rondo all game LMAOFrom my experience with Golden I would actually not be surprised if he was scum despite fakeclaiming to be the Hunter since he seems to enjoy WIFOM and unorthodox plays a lotGame losing poe that i did not want to deal with
I wouldn't prioritize his lynch because, well, it's WIFOM. And I'd like to believe he doesn't implode his own team like this.
To me the one that looks the worst here is Rem since they kept throwing shade at the people pushing for Sugar when they moved to Red, and during his pushes on D2 kept trying for the Towncore me/Loone and away from Wintermoot.
Rondo looks good despite the awkward D2 flashwagon into the seer.
Ori looks good for reasons I mentioned before already regarding the D1 lynch.
Luka I'm, uh, null at best.
Golden hard townreading them makes me a bit weirded out because it could be pocketing, but in case it isn't then it makes me wanna point a "If Golden flips Town then Luka is likely Town" here.
As a rainbow list:
ExLight
Oricorio
RondoDimBuckle
Luka
GoldenOne
Rem
get outta here
I was the first to vote Sugar, and was okay with them going over or red projekt, it was day 1 and having a vote between a villager and a scum is statistically good
then we had like 5-6 nothing slots, for the most of early game, so not having a read on them was fine so i only had the actives to judge
as soon as luka/sam joined the game I had them as town, and re-evaluated with them, ergo I voted with Sam on winter
that only left you/oricorio, since i had loona and princess town
i think i trusted sam on rondo too
why did i do what i did last day? cuz by that point it was either oricorio or you Ex and just in case we didn't vote you or oricorio out I wanted out, plus going to mylo/lylo in this setup is okay
was it the right play? in a wrold where I'm here for final x oricorio has an easy misslynch in me, since you have me in poe&rondo doesn't like me, this leaves more space for him to operate
could we have won earlier? for sure, if town were more active we could've had better a better day 2
anyway, you are very tunneled on your own view of the game/don't bounce of off others, which i guess it's fine but as as town this is a team game, I think I did my part
I was town for the majority of this game, and had good reads on enough people and I'm fine with that
not reaching lylo/mylo is standard procedure for me as town because I know I come across as out there for many people
you know what is game throwing? posting 4 one liners and expecting to get a free pass as town, peace
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 09:46:50 PM
Gg it was memy favourite part in all this is you being hunter
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 09:48:51 PM
good game folksYeah that was my fault, I lost my confidence on winter
aside from the D2 blunder I think Town played p well
shoutout to my boy Sam he was the MVP
Post by: Rem on January 29, 2024, 10:04:21 PM
Post by: Loona on January 29, 2024, 10:26:34 PM
Post by: Loona on January 29, 2024, 10:27:39 PM
You self-voted, there isn't much room for you to talk. Though it is quite insane that after what happened day 1 people still believed you were wolfFrom my experience with Golden I would actually not be surprised if he was scum despite fakeclaiming to be the Hunter since he seems to enjoy WIFOM and unorthodox plays a lotGame losing poe that i did not want to deal with
I wouldn't prioritize his lynch because, well, it's WIFOM. And I'd like to believe he doesn't implode his own team like this.
To me the one that looks the worst here is Rem since they kept throwing shade at the people pushing for Sugar when they moved to Red, and during his pushes on D2 kept trying for the Towncore me/Loone and away from Wintermoot.
Rondo looks good despite the awkward D2 flashwagon into the seer.
Ori looks good for reasons I mentioned before already regarding the D1 lynch.
Luka I'm, uh, null at best.
Golden hard townreading them makes me a bit weirded out because it could be pocketing, but in case it isn't then it makes me wanna point a "If Golden flips Town then Luka is likely Town" here.
As a rainbow list:
ExLight
Oricorio
RondoDimBuckle
Luka
GoldenOne
Rem
Post by: RondoDimBuckle on January 29, 2024, 10:55:48 PM
I was exaggerating my scum read on you. If you had made it to lylo with me I was snap voting the other guyit's called re-evaluatingbruh you kept saying it was me/loona/red/rondo all game LMAOFrom my experience with Golden I would actually not be surprised if he was scum despite fakeclaiming to be the Hunter since he seems to enjoy WIFOM and unorthodox plays a lotGame losing poe that i did not want to deal with
I wouldn't prioritize his lynch because, well, it's WIFOM. And I'd like to believe he doesn't implode his own team like this.
To me the one that looks the worst here is Rem since they kept throwing shade at the people pushing for Sugar when they moved to Red, and during his pushes on D2 kept trying for the Towncore me/Loone and away from Wintermoot.
Rondo looks good despite the awkward D2 flashwagon into the seer.
Ori looks good for reasons I mentioned before already regarding the D1 lynch.
Luka I'm, uh, null at best.
Golden hard townreading them makes me a bit weirded out because it could be pocketing, but in case it isn't then it makes me wanna point a "If Golden flips Town then Luka is likely Town" here.
As a rainbow list:
ExLight
Oricorio
RondoDimBuckle
Luka
GoldenOne
Rem
get outta here
I was the first to vote Sugar, and was okay with them going over or red projekt, it was day 1 and having a vote between a villager and a scum is statistically good
then we had like 5-6 nothing slots, for the most of early game, so not having a read on them was fine so i only had the actives to judge
as soon as luka/sam joined the game I had them as town, and re-evaluated with them, ergo I voted with Sam on winter
that only left you/oricorio, since i had loona and princess town
i think i trusted sam on rondo too
why did i do what i did last day? cuz by that point it was either oricorio or you Ex and just in case we didn't vote you or oricorio out I wanted out, plus going to mylo/lylo in this setup is okay
was it the right play? in a wrold where I'm here for final x oricorio has an easy misslynch in me, since you have me in poe&rondo doesn't like me, this leaves more space for him to operate
could we have won earlier? for sure, if town were more active we could've had better a better day 2
anyway, you are very tunneled on your own view of the game/don't bounce of off others, which i guess it's fine but as as town this is a team game, I think I did my part
I was town for the majority of this game, and had good reads on enough people and I'm fine with that
not reaching lylo/mylo is standard procedure for me as town because I know I come across as out there for many people
you know what is game throwing? posting 4 one liners and expecting to get a free pass as town, peace
Post by: GoldenOne on January 30, 2024, 01:22:17 AM