I definitely like how the new style looks on mobile better than before, but I find the lack of lines dividing the under from the post a little annoying. That may just be the OCD talking though.Thanks for the feedback! :) For me, it was removing the line between the poster information and the post that took some getting used to, but the more I use it the more I like it...without the lines the post area looks so much cleaner and open. I'd be interested in knowing if you still find the lack of lines disturbing in a day or two though.
Random query, but do you think there will ever be a dark theme option?
And, wow, I think that's a huge upgrade for mobile. Having the username on top of the posts makes a whole lot more sense. You lose the other bits (post count, karma, familial house, and NS nation), but I suppose those aren't as important.I think with a bit of work (possibly putting those in smaller, separate columns), those should work in showing up as well. I'm recalling Mafia Universe's mobile site here (or perhaps it's just vBulletin's), where they did similarly and still managed to have the info show up on mobile.
Like any change, the shortened breadcrumbs are taking a bit to get used to, especially on desktop, and especially since I can't remember what it was like before but it definitely feels different.Before the breadcrumb navigation took up at least two lines and more often three. I have some other ideas for getting it all on one line though. Hopefully I can work on that tonight. :)
Edit: ah, I think the strange part is the current subforum you're in not being on its own line. Feels a bit weird scanning to the far left and not finding it there.
That didn't really matter on larger screens though.Like any change, the shortened breadcrumbs are taking a bit to get used to, especially on desktop, and especially since I can't remember what it was like before but it definitely feels different.Before the breadcrumb navigation took up at least two lines and more often three. I have some other ideas for getting it all on one line though. Hopefully I can work on that tonight. :)
Edit: ah, I think the strange part is the current subforum you're in not being on its own line. Feels a bit weird scanning to the far left and not finding it there.
That didn't really matter on larger screens though.No, it doesn't, but the parts I removed weren't necessary, either. I changed the topic title, which can be quite long to "View Topic" because the topic title is already right below it. I removed the category from the breadcrumb entirely because I doubt it's used and it was a duplicate link to the forum front page anyways. I then shortened "Wintreath Regional Community" to "Wintreath". I don't intend on removing the subforum from the breadcrumb.
I can see why this is desirable and don't particularly mind the change. I can see this single-line breadcrumb style used in most other forums after all.
However, most other forums also have a separate in-page subforum title, whereas Wintreath doesn't (and so the last breadcrumb on a subforum page ends up serving the same purpose, which makes it more important).
Oh absolutely, the removal of the category is quite helpful, I do recall accidentally clicking on it in the past and getting mildly annoyed.That didn't really matter on larger screens though.No, it doesn't, but the parts I removed weren't necessary, either. I changed the topic title, which can be quite long to "View Topic" because the topic title is already right below it. I removed the category from the breadcrumb entirely because I doubt it's used and it was a duplicate link to the forum front page anyways. I then shortened "Wintreath Regional Community" to "Wintreath". I don't intend on removing the subforum from the breadcrumb.
I can see why this is desirable and don't particularly mind the change. I can see this single-line breadcrumb style used in most other forums after all.
However, most other forums also have a separate in-page subforum title, whereas Wintreath doesn't (and so the last breadcrumb on a subforum page ends up serving the same purpose, which makes it more important).
The struggles us old-timers take on in the name of modernization. :PI'm not sure how that would be helpful?
Would it help to display the subforum instead of the forum if the topic is in a subforum?
On mobile, all the buttons at the bottom of each post (quote, modify, like, etc.) don't fit in threads where I'm a mod, and so the "like" and "split topic" buttons are cut off. (It's only a problem in portrait mode; landscape is fine.)Right off-hand, you shouldn't have the empty space on the right side...the post space should go from one end of the screen to the other at that point. Do you know what resolution your phone is? I'll try to reproduce and fix the issue.Spoiler(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgtaNXh9.jpg&hash=afd9596bfb36b649b48babc2910c1c76)
I'm personally not a fan of the condensed buttons, especially on desktop. Hiding features behind menus leads to unnecessary clicks and makes it harder for new members to discover said features, which has already been an issue.I only hid the buttons that are probably rarely used...I might be biased, but I actually like the buttons hidden on desktop view because it makes things look cleaner, and I think it'd actually help new members find buttons for things that they're more likely to need, like the post button.
Would it be possible for it to dynamically hide buttons based on screen size, much like the username/avatar placement?
(But even on mobile, it's solved by scrolling, which is something you'll have to do to read the content anyway.)
Not that big of an issue though since the features are rarely used (though, since there is no thread search feature on this forum, Ctrl+F'ing the Print page is actually quite useful and I use it fairly often).
Right off-hand, you shouldn't have the empty space on the right side...the post space should go from one end of the screen to the other at that point. Do you know what resolution your phone is? I'll try to reproduce and fix the issue.I have a Samsung Galaxy Core Prime. A quick Google search says it's 480x800 pixels (can't find the actual resolution anywhere on my phone, but I assume that's correct). I should mention that all pages load zoomed in so that there is no empty space (the screen lines up with the gold borders), but if you scroll right or zoom all the way out, there's the empty space/rest of the page.
Perhaps I'm also biased, since I dislike unnecessary collapsed menu & hamburger icons in general.I'm personally not a fan of the condensed buttons, especially on desktop. Hiding features behind menus leads to unnecessary clicks and makes it harder for new members to discover said features, which has already been an issue.I only hid the buttons that are probably rarely used...I might be biased, but I actually like the buttons hidden on desktop view because it makes things look cleaner, and I think it'd actually help new members find buttons for things that they're more likely to need, like the post button.
Would it be possible for it to dynamically hide buttons based on screen size, much like the username/avatar placement?
(But even on mobile, it's solved by scrolling, which is something you'll have to do to read the content anyway.)
Not that big of an issue though since the features are rarely used (though, since there is no thread search feature on this forum, Ctrl+F'ing the Print page is actually quite useful and I use it fairly often).
I'm considering moving those buttons to the right side of the row with the topic title and changing their formatting to fit, but that depends on if I can get the forum button code to cooperate with me there.
Today I continued working with the like button...the like/unlike button now shows the number of likes, and you can actually remove a like now!
Today I continued working with the like button...the like/unlike button now shows the number of likes, and you can actually remove a like now!
and you can actually remove a like now!holy shit this is a gamechanger
I also worked on the collapsing menu buttons, which was a major pain in the ass to work with, but now on very low resolutions, the remove post, split topic, and report post button will collapse into a 'More' button that will show a menu when clicked.Yay it works
Now you've seen just a glimpse of the pain of working with SMF's theme code. :PWhat is happening(https://i.imgur.com/9AWAtcu.png)
Edit: ok I'll change back to old theme and give you some time to do whatever you're doing because the entire site is going a bit wack rn
Will you also make these changes to viewing (sub)forums? If topics are changed and forums are not, that destandardizes the look and feel of UI buttons, which is certainly not a good thing.I would like to...eventually. Realistically I'm not sure if I want to make that my next project with so many other things I want to work on, but eventually, yeah.
Also, not sure how to feel about the button styling/coloring... it does seems to pop out a bit less to my eyes. Not sure why, but it also feels kinda... unmodern? which I wouldn't really care about except one of things people seem to like about this new theme is the modern feel. Maybe it's the pure black on medium gray (which I also found strange when you first added it to the initial winter-dev theme but which I've since gotten used to, though this gray is darker), or the return of a new highly visible black line?I agree for the most part...structurally I think it looks good, but I don't think the colours are quite right. The buttons need to pop more, and I'm thinking of making the bar more blue than grey. I experimented a lot with the line...without it it looks visually confusing in the area of the buttons, the first poster topic, and the first poster time...the line at least breaks those elements apart. Maybe having the bar be more blue would allow the line to be less severe. I'm open to ideas on this one, I'll probably need some inspiration here.
And a suggestion, if you're still trying to remove redundant/cluttering info: maybe get rid of "Topic:"? It's fairly self-evident that the thing is a topic, and the breadcrumb also renders it redundant. (And it gives you space to add back page views :P)That's a good idea...I'll implement it next time I'm working on the design. :)
(Sorry if my many posts/feedback are coming off as nitpicky and stuff)I appreciate the consideration, but don't worry about it. I started this topic because I'd like to make this page as perfect as possible, with a lot of attention to detail. :)
Hmm, if the buttons remain changed in one place but unchanged in another in the long term on the default theme, I feel like that might not be good for the cohesiveness and learning curve of the site.Will you also make these changes to viewing (sub)forums? If topics are changed and forums are not, that destandardizes the look and feel of UI buttons, which is certainly not a good thing.I would like to...eventually. Realistically I'm not sure if I want to make that my next project with so many other things I want to work on, but eventually, yeah.
@taulover: I hope the one you liked was the one I picked, cause I only noticed this after the fact. xDI posted that about the color right before the one you settled on. I think this one is even better though. :)
I experimented with the colours some more, and got the box that opens when you click ... in order. I think we're getting very close to being finished. :D
@taulover: Could you screenshot how the dropdown menu and locked thread pages look for you? I've tried it on different browsers and resolutions on my home and work computers, but couldn't find anything wrong.Ah, I think I spotted the issue after looking at the menu on the Underhusen, where I'm a moderator.
1) When you like or unlike a post, the list of people who like the post will update along with the number on the like button. It's a minor thing, but I think it makes the page feel more dynamic when all relevant things update when you click something.Niiice
3) I started experimenting with the topic title area and trying to get views and posts on the page, so at least for now the topic title appears twice...in a new and old position. The new one is at the top of the page, has a larger font, and includes the post and view stats. I'd love to have feedback on whether it looks good on its own at the top, whether the new formatting looks good but it should go in the dark blue bar like it's always been, or whether it all just sucks, lol.My personal preference would still be to put it in the blue bar. If you don't want the view count to be on the same line as the title, maybe you could put it underneath (but still in the blue bar perhaps?) as you did in this new title?
I've put the topic information back in the bar...how does it look?Title looks a bit large (and thin?), possibly just because it's different from previous (and the reply page) size.
Also, I think I fixed the issue with locked topics, both by changing how the submenu is displayed and actually adding a non-functional locked button so people will know the topic is locked. :)