Post by: Laurentus on September 23, 2018, 08:44:53 PM
Therefore, friends and countrymen, I have decided to start a new House RP, even if we haven't figured all our shit out before the start-date, as even a failed RP can teach us a few lessons which we can build on.
As always, I am terrible at coming up with names, so if you have a better idea for what to call it, I am all ears.
How will it work? I've had this idea for a while to combine elements of a national RP with ones from a normal character-driven one. We have nobles in Wintreath, like myself, Pengu and Gerrick, and of course we have a Monarch, so my idea was that each noble would preside over one district of the nation, and then there would be lesser nobles and commoners who run for mayoral seats to preside over individual cities, or gain influence through other means, such as the councils of the nobles and monarch.
I haven't gotten down to an enemy faction, and that's mainly due to not knowing whether to make this a fantasy, sci-fi, historical or modern-day setting yet.
I also wanted to try a new way of doing stats, outside the confines of NS, where each city would devote its resources as it sees fit to develop its technology, army or economy.
In the very likely event that I become too busy in real life, I also want to have a whole host of people who can pick this idea up and run with it should I become inactive, so I don't want to make it too overwhelming.
Finally, as I said, if there is enough interest, I want to begin this RP about a week from now, so we don't fall into analysis paralysis.
Any and all are welcome. If you have not yet joined a house, I suggest doing so or starting your own ASAP. I want to try and incentivise you to join an established house, but I also don't want to disincentivise it too much if you want to go ahead and do your own thing.
Post by: Doc on September 24, 2018, 01:11:41 AM
If this is supposed to be that we each rule separate areas of Wintreath in a feudal manner subordinate to Wintermoot, - it could just as easily repackage Houses as political Factions, and continue to allow for people not members of Houses to join in this RP, which, as it is, sounds essentially be a character-driven political RP surrounding the affairs of court and empire.
If it being a House RP is non-negotiable, I'll likely decline to participate simply on the basis of not being all too hot on the idea of Houses in the first place.
Post by: taulover on September 24, 2018, 02:05:52 AM
Not being a House member, and with little understanding and consequently interest in the House system, I suppose I fundamentally question why this is necessarily House based in the first place.Houses are for RP purposes anyway... what do you see as the difference between creating/joining new political factions for this RP compared to creating/joining Houses for purposes of this RP?
If this is supposed to be that we each rule separate areas of Wintreath in a feudal manner subordinate to Wintermoot, - it could just as easily repackage Houses as political Factions, and continue to allow for people not members of Houses to join in this RP, which, as it is, sounds essentially be a character-driven political RP surrounding the affairs of court and empire.
If it being a House RP is non-negotiable, I'll likely decline to participate simply on the basis of not being all too hot on the idea of Houses in the first place.
I think the House RP thing is probably because Weissreich has had that RP idea in the works for many years now but it never happened. Valeria was actually formed in large part for the purposes of said RP that never happened, IIRC.
Post by: Doc on September 24, 2018, 04:48:02 AM
In contrast, if we had 'noble houses' in this as part of our characters, which seems like a requirement if this is the feudal/neofeudal thing the setting would suggest, and some of these noble houses were tied together in the form of 'political factions' (such as, say, the Valeria Faction), it would allow for both people who had Houses, and those who didn't/didn't wish to, to participate.
Essentially, I'm arguing that we should divorce in-this-RP houses from the-NS-phenomenon Houses as a requirement for the RP.
Post by: Laurentus on September 24, 2018, 05:54:59 AM
That said, I see no reason to be black and white about it. We can do something like this: If you don't care to join a House, you can still register a character but you won't get your own city to rule over. You could then join a nobleman's service, by being a member of their guard or political council, etc.
As for resource allocation, I think what I currently have in mind is that each city gets a finite number of credits per day, and can then choose to spend it however they wish. If they belong to a house, then they get diminishing returns based on how big the house is. For example, if you start a house and you're the only person in it, you get the baseline 100% of tax money you're due to run your city. If your house has two members, you get 105% and then need to decide through consensus how it gets spent. After this point, you only get an increase once your house reaches 4 members, and after that, 8 and so on. To balance this out, even if you're going solo, you can invest wisely and see increases to your resources anyway as a reward.
I haven't yet decided whether to make this a feudal scenario or not. Would that be preferred?
Post by: Gerrick on September 24, 2018, 03:31:08 PM
And if it were not a feudal scenario, what else could it be?
Post by: Laurentus on September 24, 2018, 03:50:03 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 25, 2018, 06:37:32 PM
Post by: Laurentus on September 25, 2018, 08:07:57 PM
What I'm not sure about is whether to include magic. Part of me really wants to.
Post by: Doc on September 25, 2018, 09:50:18 PM
Then you can have space magic!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 25, 2018, 10:23:39 PM
You could always go full neofeudalist and go interstellar empire.THE EMPEROR WILL PUNISH US FOR THIS HERESY ;P
Then you can have space magic!
Post by: Cinciri on September 26, 2018, 03:03:59 AM
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Post by: Laurentus on September 29, 2018, 11:20:58 AM
And since we are nearing the launch window, everyone can just verbally state whether they want magic/spacemagic or not.
Post by: Syraj on September 30, 2018, 06:11:47 AM
Post by: Laurentus on September 30, 2018, 09:02:57 PM
For myself, my character will watch over Highever, the city I claimed when I was ennobled. As one of the higher nobles, I will also oversee one entire province/main region of space.
@Pengu, are you going to take part in the RP? If so, we'll need to work on a way to avoid our house becoming OP.
Oh and those who don't wish to join a House but still wish to participate, need to decide in which region of space/which province they wish to operate, or which noble house to pledge their loyalty to.
Post by: Gerrick on September 30, 2018, 10:22:22 PM
Post by: Laurentus on September 30, 2018, 10:39:12 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 01, 2018, 12:28:11 AM
If you are currently part of a house, I suggest you start thinking of a name for the city/planet you will rule over.I think the best way to make Valeria not OP would probably be to make it more like the Habsburgs in the European world. One family technically, but with sub-alliances and sorts of things. At least, that's probably the easiest way to do things while still giving everyone something to do or whatnot
For myself, my character will watch over Highever, the city I claimed when I was ennobled. As one of the higher nobles, I will also oversee one entire province/main region of space.
@Pengu, are you going to take part in the RP? If so, we'll need to work on a way to avoid our house becoming OP.
Oh and those who don't wish to join a House but still wish to participate, need to decide in which region of space/which province they wish to operate, or which noble house to pledge their loyalty to.
And as far as magic goes I think that I'd probably prefer no magic, just from a convenience standpoint.
Post by: ShadowX4life on October 01, 2018, 02:40:35 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 01, 2018, 03:36:13 AM
You can go to this link (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=3251.0)
Post by: Cinciri on October 01, 2018, 03:48:45 AM
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Post by: Laurentus on October 01, 2018, 03:50:33 AM
Post by: Cinciri on October 01, 2018, 03:52:13 AM
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Post by: Laurentus on October 02, 2018, 12:07:01 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 02, 2018, 07:15:56 PM
Alright. Let's see if we can't compromise, or find a new setting. Those who've voted so far, why have you voted for what you did?
For my part, I voted for Spacefaring Empire, because there is a huge gap to fill in that area with the demise of Tau's one (I have forgotten its name).
Post by: Cinciri on October 02, 2018, 07:28:56 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 02, 2018, 07:43:47 PM
Post by: Cinciri on October 02, 2018, 08:30:11 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 02, 2018, 08:50:57 PM
Post by: Gerrick on October 02, 2018, 09:46:57 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 02, 2018, 09:50:42 PM
Post by: Cinciri on October 02, 2018, 10:12:20 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 02, 2018, 10:24:22 PM
And at present, I think you still need to choose what your relation is with those in the house.
Post by: Cinciri on October 02, 2018, 10:29:20 PM
Go to Old User CP > Forum Profile > Familial House. You just add 'the noble house of Valeria' in there and you are good to go.how do I go about doing said thing
And at present, I think you still need to choose what your relation is with those in the house.
Post by: Laurentus on October 02, 2018, 10:59:34 PM
(I'm also sorely lacking any children in the house, but at least I have a few nephews to dote on)
Post by: Doc on October 02, 2018, 11:04:45 PM
Even if I were inclined to make a House for myself (which I'm not) in order to participate, it seems like it'd shake out pretty quickly into 'Valerians/Not Valerians' and a subsequent conflict between the two groups, which would be swiftly resolved in House Valeria's favor.
It'd be like if the Seven Kingdoms had a fight between the Starks and Lannisters, only the Starks were Kings in the North, Riverlands, Iron Islands, Vale, and Reach, and the Lannisters had a vague alliance with the Stormlands. Just numerically they're sort of fucked.
Post by: Laurentus on October 02, 2018, 11:17:59 PM
That said, I do want to keep some element of Weiss's idea alive. So what if we make it so that, in the setting, Valeria is so fractured that there is a lot of space for new houses to rise in opposition? Valerians would not all fight for the same side, then, and you can create your own house specifically for the purposes of the RP.
Something similar to the dance of the dragons, in a way.
Post by: Cinciri on October 02, 2018, 11:26:43 PM
Post by: Gerrick on October 02, 2018, 11:44:05 PM
And Syraj is House Kaizer not Valeria.
And as has been said, just because people are members of the same house doesn't mean they have to be on the same side. There could be plenty of rivalry from different branches/generations/members of the same house (e.g. the Baratheons). The Valerias will just already have connections to each other (whether good or bad) at the start as opposed to other houses who they'd more likely be neutral to or even not know about (I suppose unless some kind of backstory was established between them).
Post by: taulover on October 03, 2018, 07:00:32 PM
Post by: Cinciri on October 04, 2018, 04:02:12 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 07, 2018, 09:02:30 PM
Post by: Cinciri on October 08, 2018, 02:25:53 PM
Post by: Cinciri on October 08, 2018, 02:30:35 PM
Post by: taulover on October 08, 2018, 02:56:35 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 08, 2018, 03:26:02 PM
I'll see if I can't find a video explaining people's day-to-day lives and their tech for the time.
Post by: taulover on October 08, 2018, 05:32:57 PM
This archive may be helpful:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/renaissance
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/faq/militaryhistory/earlymodernwar
Post by: Laurentus on October 08, 2018, 05:51:24 PM
The way I see this fitting in is a Wintreath divided by four major players: Houses Burdock and Valeria clinging to classical feudalism, House Telcontar serving as an invading force, and a bunch of merchants and bankers wishing to break free of the entire outdated system and creating their own rebellion, incorporating Doc's idea.
That way, we explore multiple facets of the period, and give everyone some sort of way into the RP, whether they want to join a House or not. Granted, this will be tricky to balance, but a Wintreath divided by these four spheres of influence would be pretty cool to explore.
EDIT: This has nothing to do with tech, but the philosophy of the time.
Post by: Doc on October 08, 2018, 07:20:42 PM
Should the nobility refuse to let us join their privileged ranks, we shall rise against them!
Wintreath for Wintreans, not Valerians!
Post by: Arenado on October 08, 2018, 07:21:27 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 08, 2018, 07:30:33 PM
Post by: taulover on October 09, 2018, 03:13:38 AM
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