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Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 17, 2016, 06:19:34 PM
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HSEIJ5n.png)(https://i.imgur.com/d2GzfOz.png)

Pretty much all credit does NOT go to me, Hydra gets a lot of it credit for transcribing Weissreich's original map from paper, and of course, Weissreich himself, I only added detail and biome specification. Of course, this doesn't have to be lore friendly, it's just a more detailed version that I prefer.

Feel free to use my map for any roleplays or anything that you might want it for. If you do, please credit me, Hydra, Weissreich, and anybody else that I do not know of who may have assisted.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 06:27:18 PM
It only works if something like .jpg, .jpeg or .png is attached to the end. Of course, it has to actually be one of those to work.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 17, 2016, 06:31:34 PM
Thank you! (:
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: taulover on December 17, 2016, 06:36:31 PM
FTFY
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F19Qz3pg.png&hash=75a936e7a94207655a582cc1fc002e2d)
Also, don't forget to give Hydra credit for transcribing Weissreich's entire map from paper (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=3117.0)!
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Emoticonius on December 17, 2016, 06:40:47 PM
Yeah the image tags don't work for galleries. Of course you got the closer for the tag wrong. It's supposed to say [/img].
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 17, 2016, 06:44:38 PM
Thanks, I'm terrible at simple computer things...
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: taulover on December 17, 2016, 06:50:59 PM
Your biomes are off. The southeast is most definitely NOT lush swampland; there's a reason why all the settlements there are called "outposts". Let me quote from Weissreich himself:
@Weissreich I have a feeling you're misidentifying the key... Zemas is at the Huggtänder mountains, not Robin.

Am I correct in saying that my location (Galdémere) is rather temperate?
Right you are, it's Zemas - my apologies!

On the map, anything below the southern tip of Frost Lake is considered temperate, with it growing warmer the further south you go. By the time you're at the Gulf of Andoril and the Narrows (the way into Wintreath on the south-west corner of the map) you're at pretty much deciduous forestry, swamps, grasslands etc etc. South-east is desert by the time you're hitting the coast, with the River Lyss being the only stretch of green in that Ride for quite some way. In between either of those is the Indurain causeway networks, so it's lush greenery anyways (Galdémere is a hub on that network) because everything is irrigated.

Shit-tonnes of water, yo!

I can do climate bands if you want any more information than that :)
And what did you do to the coastline?? Don't get me wrong, it's pretty, but you turned a ton of inland settlements into coastal ones with all those fjords.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 06:52:09 PM
Haha, "simple,"  he says...  It's anything but. At least you know something about BB code.. I knew nothing when I started out in NS.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 17, 2016, 06:54:13 PM
Your biomes are off. The southeast is most definitely NOT lush swampland; there's a reason why all the settlements there are called "outposts". Let me quote from Weissreich himself:
@Weissreich I have a feeling you're misidentifying the key... Zemas is at the Huggtänder mountains, not Robin.

Am I correct in saying that my location (Galdémere) is rather temperate?
Right you are, it's Zemas - my apologies!

On the map, anything below the southern tip of Frost Lake is considered temperate, with it growing warmer the further south you go. By the time you're at the Gulf of Andoril and the Narrows (the way into Wintreath on the south-west corner of the map) you're at pretty much deciduous forestry, swamps, grasslands etc etc. South-east is desert by the time you're hitting the coast, with the River Lyss being the only stretch of green in that Ride for quite some way. In between either of those is the Indurain causeway networks, so it's lush greenery anyways (Galdémere is a hub on that network) because everything is irrigated.

Shit-tonnes of water, yo!

I can do climate bands if you want any more information than that :)
And what did you do to the coastline?? Don't get me wrong, it's pretty, but you turned a ton of inland settlements into coastal ones with all those fjords.

As I say, it's just my interpretation, and not intended to be lore-friendly :) .
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 17, 2016, 07:13:55 PM
http://imgur.com/gallery/LHFzkKU
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: taulover on December 17, 2016, 07:27:28 PM
http://imgur.com/LHFzkKU
Looks nice... I only see two problems: desert coastlines tend to be more boring than that. :P It made sense when it was a swamp, not so much now. Also, the desert shouldn't extend that far west (as Weissreich said, there's an extensive irrigation/causeway system).

(Of course, you're not obligated to make either of these changes; as you said, this map isn't meant to be lore-consistent.)
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 17, 2016, 07:29:11 PM
Yeah, I just wanted some semi- accuracy. :)
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 17, 2016, 07:41:14 PM
http://imgur.com/gallery/Oj9Z4Xo

Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: taulover on December 17, 2016, 09:02:40 PM
http://imgur.com/gallery/Oj9Z4Xo
Oh, and for future reference:
To get the link to the actual image, right click and select "open image in new tab" (or something similar if you're not using Chrome). Alternatively, in Imgur, when you hover over an image in an album you uploaded, there's a dropdown menu with a "get share link" option (or, if you're viewing the images directly, just click on it and the share links will be on the right).
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 17, 2016, 09:06:53 PM
Oh, thanks, that'll make things much easier! Couldn't the Wintermoot allow us to paste images directly from our computers? And take out the middle man which is Imgur?
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: taulover on December 17, 2016, 09:21:03 PM
Oh, thanks, that'll make things much easier! Couldn't the Wintermoot allow us to paste images directly from our computers? And take out the middle man which is Imgur?
Good image hosting comes with a bunch of other problems. But to answer your question, you actually can, though with rather limiting size restrictions. I usually just don't, and use Imgur or something else.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Gerrick on December 17, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Oh, thanks, that'll make things much easier! Couldn't the Wintermoot allow us to paste images directly from our computers? And take out the middle man which is Imgur?
Yeah, as tau said, you can just upload images from your computer if you'd like -- Imgur just looks better and also allows you to "spoiler" it. When you're going to post something, there's an "Attachments and other options" below the text window. If you click that, you can choose a file (ie, image) to attach.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 17, 2016, 09:31:32 PM
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Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 17, 2016, 09:32:12 PM
Ahah! Thanks!
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Weissreich on December 19, 2016, 03:40:39 PM
All told this is a pretty damn good effort at the map. I really like the colour schemes, although they certainly don't include most of the biomes Wintreath has in the south nor in the middling regions along the line of Frostlake itself. That said, I think if you went with the first draft version, turned the SE swamp into desert, had a little more frosted tundra between the south sunny and warm areas and the north cold and snowy areas, maybe did away with some of the coastline changes (the Far North, for example, is not an ice sheet for at least 500 miles beyond the map's border, it's just REALLY FUCKING COLD), you'd have a damn good map.

You already do have a damn good map, it'd just be even better :p
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 19, 2016, 07:02:08 PM
Quote from: Weissreich
All told this is a pretty damn good effort at the map. I really like the colour schemes, although they certainly don't include most of the biomes Wintreath has in the south nor in the middling regions along the line of Frostlake itself. That said, I think if you went with the first draft version, turned the SE swamp into desert, had a little more frosted tundra between the south sunny and warm areas and the north cold and snowy areas, maybe did away with some of the coastline changes (the Far North, for example, is not an ice sheet for at least 500 miles beyond the map's border, it's just REALLY FUCKING COLD), you'd have a damn good map.

You already do have a damn good map, it'd just be even better :p

Thanks, (:. I had already made some of these changes at your time of posting, have they not updated?
[edit] Oooh, if I went with the first draft version. Sorry, my brain missed that out.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 20, 2016, 04:54:20 PM
Oh sh*t how did I mess the quote up so badly?
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Sapphiron on December 20, 2016, 05:08:03 PM
Tidied it up. The issue was with not putting a / for the second {quote}. 

Brilliant map by the way. :D
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 20, 2016, 06:05:47 PM
thanks :)
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 20, 2016, 06:10:26 PM
Also, why do so many people have an upside-down profile image?
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: taulover on December 20, 2016, 07:35:35 PM
This looks really good now. The northern part still seems a bit weird, though, since the straight horizontal coastlines don't really make much sense.
Also, why do so many people have an upside-down profile image?
December 2016 Avatar of the Month (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=4111.0)
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 20, 2016, 08:04:38 PM
This looks really good now. The northern part still seems a bit weird, though, since the straight horizontal coastlines don't really make much sense.

What do you mean? I see no perfectly horizontal coastline...
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: taulover on December 20, 2016, 08:09:40 PM
This looks really good now. The northern part still seems a bit weird, though, since the straight horizontal coastlines don't really make much sense.

What do you mean? I see no perfectly horizontal coastline...
Never mind, I was looking at the copy you posted to the RP Guild. is that one different, or just outdated?

Just wondering, why are there two different colors for water?
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: pacsironeenk on December 20, 2016, 08:12:39 PM
You see, that was intended to be the sky, like you could see the curvature of the planet, and the white patches were clouds, but I later realised that it didn't look very good, and so recently got rid of it. So, yeah, it's outdated.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: taulover on December 21, 2016, 06:21:17 AM
I noticed that the Origin constructions (I think they're called "spires") in the eastern ocean were removed when you overlayed the darker blue color.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Excalibur on April 09, 2019, 09:14:18 PM
Is the map posted anywhere else other than Imgur? If not, can someone put it on another image aggregator site? Imgur does not work on my computer for images.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: taulover on April 10, 2019, 12:04:33 AM
Is the map posted anywhere else other than Imgur? If not, can someone put it on another image aggregator site? Imgur does not work on my computer for images.
It looks more like the image was posted to a non Imgur host, given the URL. But all of @Noris Kneecap's photos have been deleted.

Weiss/Hydra's map is still up, and we happened to get a copy of this map onto the Orendi, where it's still available:

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/MLVMoWJ.png)
Spoiler
(https://wintreath.com/graphics/orendi2/18-5.jpg)
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: taulover on April 10, 2019, 12:09:15 AM
It's possible @Hydra may still have the map file for when he designed that Orendi issue.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Hydra on April 10, 2019, 12:37:23 AM
Here's a reupload:

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/d2GzfOz.png)
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: taulover on April 10, 2019, 01:05:48 AM
Here's a reupload:

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/d2GzfOz.png)
Great, nice to see the map isn't lost forever.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Gerrick on April 10, 2019, 02:54:06 AM
Updated the OP to use the new link.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Excalibur on April 10, 2019, 03:55:10 AM
Would it be okay to use this map as part of the Wintreath RMB RP?
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Doc on April 10, 2019, 06:11:43 AM
Speaking as an on-and-off RPer, not sure if it would get a lot of traction, so I question if it'd be worth it.

But speaking as Jarl of RA, it's worth a shot to drum up RMB activity.
Its creator isn't around anymore, so it's not like we can get his permission, and we've previously used it for RP anyway so I'd say we've already deemed it acceptable.
Title: Remastered Wintreath map
Post by: Excalibur on April 11, 2019, 10:06:02 PM
Speaking as an on-and-off RPer, not sure if it would get a lot of traction, so I question if it'd be worth it.

But speaking as Jarl of RA, it's worth a shot to drum up RMB activity.
Its creator isn't around anymore, so it's not like we can get his permission, and we've previously used it for RP anyway so I'd say we've already deemed it acceptable.
If we run a consistent and significantly lengthy "advertising" campaign for it, I'm sure it would gain traction. As Thane of Roleplay, I believe it would work. I'll get to work on the system immediately.