Post by: Laurentus on September 24, 2016, 09:39:35 PM
That's what I want to bring to Wintreath.
I suggest we do it slightly differently this time, though. Instead of bringing in some of our favourite puppets, we all start from scratch with new puppets at the same time, and continue from there. Alliances would still be rad, though, so I would miss that aspect of PvC, since there wouldn't be much incentive to form alliances when you're trying to build your nation up from scratch and on an equal footing.
I also need to come up with a story to base this on.
Team Blue:
Neo Aesir (Aragonn)
Laurentus Setats (ek)
Team Red:
BSR
Crushita
Team Purple:
Everyone else(?)
Post by: Ashton Mercer on September 24, 2016, 10:00:56 PM
Post by: Laurentus on September 24, 2016, 10:24:29 PM
The other Hyperians are welcome to chime in here.
I'll just link to its OOC and IC threads.
http://w11.zetaboards.com/New_Hyperion/topic/10743074/1/
http://w11.zetaboards.com/New_Hyperion/topic/10742766/1/
Post by: Ashton Mercer on September 24, 2016, 10:34:24 PM
Post by: taulover on September 24, 2016, 11:24:26 PM
So towards the end of the RP, as it was starting to die out, @Colberius X accidentally chose an option on Issue 221, which absolutely imploded all of his stats. He was already planning to write out some unrest in the government, and when he eventually posted it, it ended up being a four-post-long (because of word limit) coup. Unfortunately, the RP quickly died after that, with key RP'ers having slowly gone inactive.
Post by: Laurentus on September 24, 2016, 11:34:27 PM
I remember when I had my heart set on strengthening my economy, military and Scientific Advancement, I saw exponential growth in all sectors that none of you could ever dream to match. To this day, I think something incredibly dodgy was going on, but to my benefit.
With one issue, I remember gaining like a 35 increase in SA at one stage. Madness.
Post by: taulover on September 25, 2016, 03:15:58 AM
I also need to come up with a story to base this on.One word: Potatoe
It would be interesting to play without Laurentus States's insanely quickly rising stats. :PDidn't you have some strategy in there? Like, didn't you temporarily restrict political freedoms as you worked up your stats?
I remember when I had my heart set on strengthening my economy, military and Scientific Advancement, I saw exponential growth in all sectors that none of you could ever dream to match. To this day, I think something incredibly dodgy was going on, but to my benefit.
With one issue, I remember gaining like a 35 increase in SA at one stage. Madness.
Post by: Laurentus on September 25, 2016, 05:43:12 AM
I did go from a having excellent political freedoms to being a hard-boiled dictatorship, though.
Post by: taulover on September 25, 2016, 06:03:45 AM
I did, but Colby was doing the same thing, with limited success.From personal experience, it's rather easy to bring up your economy in NS with libertarian/anarchist issue choices, but I'm fairly sure it doesn't work as well for other stats.
I did go from a having excellent political freedoms to being a hard-boiled dictatorship, though.
When do you plan on getting this RP started?
Post by: Laurentus on September 25, 2016, 06:07:55 AM
I'm also open to anymore comments like those you've already made about perhaps forming a region specifically for this RP.
Post by: taulover on September 25, 2016, 07:31:27 PM
As soon as I've come up with a setting and story. Do we want something as silly as PvC again?Potatoe is not joke, is serious.
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 25, 2016, 10:16:17 PM
All Hail His Starchy Majesty, Lord Protector of the Pious Disciples of the Great Potatoe, @Eldarion !As soon as I've come up with a setting and story. Do we want something as silly as PvC again?Potatoe is not joke, is serious.
Post by: Crushita on September 25, 2016, 11:13:31 PM
All Hail His Starchy Majesty, Lord Protector of the Pious Disciples of the Great Potatoe, @Eldarion !As soon as I've come up with a setting and story. Do we want something as silly as PvC again?Potatoe is not joke, is serious.
What does PvC even stand for?(Glorious Holy and Every Righteous Followers of The) Potato Versus (Dirty Satan Worshiping Heretics) Carrots?
Post by: taulover on September 25, 2016, 11:21:32 PM
Penguins vs. Cookies (http://w11.zetaboards.com/New_Hyperion/topic/10742766/1/)All Hail His Starchy Majesty, Lord Protector of the Pious Disciples of the Great Potatoe, @Eldarion !As soon as I've come up with a setting and story. Do we want something as silly as PvC again?Potatoe is not joke, is serious.
What does PvC even stand for?(Glorious Holy and Every Righteous Followers of The) Potato Versus (Dirty Satan Worshiping Heretics) Carrots?
Feel free to read the slow transformation from comical to serious.
Post by: Crushita on September 25, 2016, 11:24:55 PM
So we can do Potatoes vs (Generic Heresy That You People Come Up With)Penguins vs. Cookies (http://w11.zetaboards.com/New_Hyperion/topic/10742766/1/)All Hail His Starchy Majesty, Lord Protector of the Pious Disciples of the Great Potatoe, @Eldarion !As soon as I've come up with a setting and story. Do we want something as silly as PvC again?Potatoe is not joke, is serious.
What does PvC even stand for?(Glorious Holy and Every Righteous Followers of The) Potato Versus (Dirty Satan Worshiping Heretics) Carrots?
Feel free to read the slow transformation from comical to serious.
Post by: Colberius X on September 26, 2016, 12:22:18 AM
So towards the end of the RP, as it was starting to die out, @Colberius X accidentally chose an option on Issue 221, which absolutely imploded all of his stats. He was already planning to write out some unrest in the government, and when he eventually posted it, it ended up being a four-post-long (because of word limit) coup. Unfortunately, the RP quickly died after that, with key RP'ers having slowly gone inactive.For some background, Colbentielle was ranked in the top 10% of the World for Public Sector, Largest Government, and Taxation. So eliminating my entire tax code completely wiped me out in an instant. On the bright side, it brought about what I consider to be my best RP writing to date.
Post by: taulover on September 26, 2016, 12:58:23 AM
Some context for those who did not read or participate in PvC:So we can do Potatoes vs (Generic Heresy That You People Come Up With)Penguins vs. Cookies (http://w11.zetaboards.com/New_Hyperion/topic/10742766/1/)All Hail His Starchy Majesty, Lord Protector of the Pious Disciples of the Great Potatoe, @Eldarion !As soon as I've come up with a setting and story. Do we want something as silly as PvC again?Potatoe is not joke, is serious.
What does PvC even stand for?(Glorious Holy and Every Righteous Followers of The) Potato Versus (Dirty Satan Worshiping Heretics) Carrots?
Feel free to read the slow transformation from comical to serious.
Soft chocolate chip cookies were magic wonder commodities that improved economy, productivity, etc. and everyone wanted it. Penguins were WMD-superweapon-mechasoldiers that were going to play a major role in the war (but IIRC we never got that far). Cheese cannons had a similar role as well.
Post by: taulover on September 26, 2016, 02:03:16 AM
Post by: Laurentus on September 26, 2016, 06:05:42 PM
Also, Colby, when would you be available? This is going to take me a while to start, since I have to balance my job, studies and upcoming exams with it too. I might even give the idea to someone else if people are anxious to get started.
Post by: taulover on September 26, 2016, 06:15:29 PM
Post by: Ashton Mercer on September 27, 2016, 04:40:02 AM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 27, 2016, 04:01:52 PM
If we do Earth, dibs on the Great Lakes.You can't call dibs on the best part of Earth!!! :P
Post by: Colberius X on September 27, 2016, 04:37:01 PM
I have no real preference for a map. You guys can decide. As for tech, I think I'd like to try my hand at modern tech for a change. Or did we really like WH40K with the addition of any plausible future tech?I'll be available to start when I learn some time management and stop procrastinating on work for my classes. But that'll probably never happen, so I'll just go with: After my first wave of midterms, but only if I do satisfactorily on them.
Also, Colby, when would you be available? This is going to take me a while to start, since I have to balance my job, studies and upcoming exams with it too. I might even give the idea to someone else if people are anxious to get started.
May I ask what makes them the best part of Earth?If we do Earth, dibs on the Great Lakes.You can't call dibs on the best part of Earth!!! :P
Post by: Ashton Mercer on September 27, 2016, 04:55:12 PM
Abundance of clean fresh water, miles of fertile farmland, loads of other natural resources, important trade location, beautiful landscapes. What's not to like?May I ask what makes them the best part of Earth?If we do Earth, dibs on the Great Lakes.You can't call dibs on the best part of Earth!!! :P
Post by: Colberius X on September 27, 2016, 05:24:42 PM
I understand their strategic significance, but I'm not sold on the Great Lakes being the best part of the Earth.Abundance of clean fresh water, miles of fertile farmland, loads of other natural resources, important trade location, beautiful landscapes. What's not to like?May I ask what makes them the best part of Earth?If we do Earth, dibs on the Great Lakes.You can't call dibs on the best part of Earth!!! :P
Post by: Ashton Mercer on September 27, 2016, 06:02:58 PM
I mean, the region isn't Hawaii, but in terms of nation building having the Great Lakes would be fantastic.I understand their strategic significance, but I'm not sold on the Great Lakes being the best part of the Earth.Abundance of clean fresh water, miles of fertile farmland, loads of other natural resources, important trade location, beautiful landscapes. What's not to like?May I ask what makes them the best part of Earth?If we do Earth, dibs on the Great Lakes.You can't call dibs on the best part of Earth!!! :P
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 27, 2016, 08:12:53 PM
Have you seen how awesome and amazing Chicago is? I'd say it's probably my favourite city in the world (excepting Oslo of course). But that combined with Madison and Minneapolis and Toronto make the Great Lakes Region so vibrant and culturally diverse, in my opinion. Just the combination of so many diverse peoples there, from Poland and Germany to Ireland and Italy and Russia in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the Great Migration of African Americans from the South in the middle of the 20th, to the current influx of migrants from Asia, the Middle East and Latin America today, it's just amazing what the result is. You can visit 40 different unique cultures in a single day in Chicago, particularly. You can start your day among Greeks, eat breakfast in Arabia, listen to Smooth Jazz, Have Pierogi for lunch, visit Chinatown in the afternoon, stop by the Museum of Science and Industry, and then end your day with Deep Dish in the Loop. It's quite the experience. :)I mean, the region isn't Hawaii, but in terms of nation building having the Great Lakes would be fantastic.I understand their strategic significance, but I'm not sold on the Great Lakes being the best part of the Earth.Abundance of clean fresh water, miles of fertile farmland, loads of other natural resources, important trade location, beautiful landscapes. What's not to like?May I ask what makes them the best part of Earth?If we do Earth, dibs on the Great Lakes.You can't call dibs on the best part of Earth!!! :P
Caveat
As long as you aren't stupid and flaunt nice things in the wrong places at night, of course. :P
Post by: Laurentus on September 27, 2016, 08:59:08 PM
Post by: Ashton Mercer on September 27, 2016, 10:14:19 PM
But Chicago is nice too, I'm sure. :P
Post by: taulover on September 27, 2016, 10:24:08 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, Laurentus, but are we just using Earth as a map and then adding our own cities/territories as necessary?
Post by: Crushita on September 27, 2016, 11:26:45 PM
For the curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Great_Lakes
Post by: taulover on September 28, 2016, 12:24:12 AM
Post by: Ashton Mercer on September 28, 2016, 12:31:03 AM
I predict a war over the Andes, the Holy Land of Potatoe.Even though nobody has territory even remotely close, we all still send over an absurd amount of troops and supplies in order to capture it out of some strange ideology.
A nice metaphor for early 19th century imperialism in Africa. :P
Post by: Crushita on September 28, 2016, 12:33:53 AM
Except I will be IN Africa so it will be rather ironic :PI predict a war over the Andes, the Holy Land of Potatoe.Even though nobody has territory even remotely close, we all still send over an absurd amount of troops and supplies in order to capture it out of some strange ideology.
A nice metaphor for early 19th century imperialism in Africa. :P
Post by: taulover on September 28, 2016, 01:29:45 AM
Scramble+Crusades would be interesting.I predict a war over the Andes, the Holy Land of Potatoe.Even though nobody has territory even remotely close, we all still send over an absurd amount of troops and supplies in order to capture it out of some strange ideology.
A nice metaphor for early 19th century imperialism in Africa. :P
Post by: Laurentus on September 28, 2016, 07:48:14 AM
So I'm thinking of having someone like Crush take Miri's place in a new story, but in a different way.
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 28, 2016, 02:26:46 PM
Post by: taulover on September 28, 2016, 04:52:04 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 28, 2016, 06:16:05 PM
Are we doing Postmodern Tech?I think we could. It might also be fun to set it near-WWI tech level. I don't think we have many RPs with that tech level at present. Wintrean Union is essentially postmodern tech, right?
But I'd be fine with pretty much any tech level between 1800 and 2100
Post by: taulover on September 28, 2016, 06:34:09 PM
oh yes we need airshipsAre we doing Postmodern Tech?I think we could. It might also be fun to set it near-WWI tech level. I don't think we have many RPs with that tech level at present. Wintrean Union is essentially postmodern tech, right?
But I'd be fine with pretty much any tech level between 1800 and 2100
and telegrams
sounds fun
Post by: Ashton Mercer on September 28, 2016, 07:08:21 PM
Post by: Laurentus on September 28, 2016, 07:26:59 PM
Post by: taulover on September 28, 2016, 08:25:20 PM
Post by: taulover on September 28, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 29, 2016, 12:44:06 AM
Post by: Ashton Mercer on September 29, 2016, 01:18:04 AM
Define "munchkin"Playing to win, instead of playing a character or a nation. Munchkins don't care about culture, story, or worldbuilding unless it helps them dominate the game.
Considering I don't really want this to be at WWI tech level but it's going to be anyways, I'll probably end up being a little bit of a munchkin.
Post by: taulover on September 29, 2016, 02:04:11 AM
Since the stats are somewhat removed from the actual RP itself, I feel that most players will probably munchkin their NS puppet to some extent.Define "munchkin"Playing to win, instead of playing a character or a nation. Munchkins don't care about culture, story, or worldbuilding unless it helps them dominate the game.
Considering I don't really want this to be at WWI tech level but it's going to be anyways, I'll probably end up being a little bit of a munchkin.
Post by: Aragonn on September 29, 2016, 07:15:01 AM
Sorry for being late to the party. And I vote for WWII technology. A significant step up from WWI but not too advanced as to where we have supersonic flight and self-guided weapons. A superb compromise IMO.
Oh, and we need to decide on a date to create these puppets since they all need to be created at the same time. One day may make a difference.
Post by: Laurentus on September 29, 2016, 07:38:22 AM
Post by: Ashton Mercer on September 29, 2016, 03:32:26 PM
Do we want nukes?I would say maybe it's something that can be researched, but not something everyone has right off the bat and maybe only limited to a max of 5 gravity bombs?
Post by: Aragonn on September 29, 2016, 04:32:01 PM
Do we want nukes?No. Just no.
Post by: taulover on September 29, 2016, 04:50:24 PM
And I vote for WWII technology. A significant step up from WWI but not too advanced as to where we have supersonic flight and self-guided weapons. A superb compromise IMO.but i want me zeppelins
Post by: Colberius X on September 29, 2016, 06:24:39 PM
I'm not sure if I want Brazil again. Colbentielle has lush rainforests, but I haven't decided if my nation in this will.
Have we decided if this will be serious or silly? (That will probably determine my willingness to commit to this before I'm done with midterms.)
Post by: Aragonn on September 29, 2016, 06:26:16 PM
Post by: Laurentus on September 29, 2016, 07:44:05 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 29, 2016, 08:47:27 PM
Post by: taulover on September 29, 2016, 09:07:51 PM
Post by: Crushita on September 29, 2016, 09:09:27 PM
But Rome is! I claim Italy! And support WWI tech!
Post by: Aragonn on September 29, 2016, 09:15:53 PM
Post by: Laurentus on September 29, 2016, 09:20:33 PM
Post by: Aragonn on September 29, 2016, 09:35:40 PM
Post by: taulover on September 29, 2016, 09:37:46 PM
Post by: Laurentus on September 29, 2016, 09:39:09 PM
AIRSHIPS, MOTHER FUCKER!! Nothing is cooler than an airship! :P
Post by: Aragonn on September 29, 2016, 09:40:08 PM
Post by: Laurentus on September 29, 2016, 09:44:00 PM
Post by: Hydra on September 29, 2016, 10:22:17 PM
Post by: Aragonn on September 29, 2016, 10:33:34 PM
Post by: HannahB on September 29, 2016, 10:51:50 PM
Seems like you guys don't like the Victoria games, eh? :))
Also I wanna play :-[
Anyway, as you were... It's just like I never invaded your guild... :-\
Post by: Aragonn on September 29, 2016, 10:52:57 PM
-I know this is a faux pas me posting here but I gotta remark-Girl, you're more than welcome to join us! Come on in and speak with us!
Seems like you guys don't like the Victoria games, eh? :))
Also I wanna play :-[
Anyway, as you were... It's just like I never invaded your guild... :-\
Post by: HannahB on September 29, 2016, 11:01:47 PM
-I know this is a faux pas me posting here but I gotta remark-Girl, you're more than welcome to join us! Come on in and speak with us!
Seems like you guys don't like the Victoria games, eh? :))
Also I wanna play :-[
Anyway, as you were... It's just like I never invaded your guild... :-\
Yay :D
I'm always willing to talk ^-^
Also I like the idea on an NS RP, especially one set on an earth-map. It sounds fun :)
Post by: taulover on September 30, 2016, 12:48:12 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2vgopo/why_did_trench_warfare_stop_after_ww1/
The more I'm reading into WW1-era warfare, the more I realize that I know next to nothing about it. It would seem that the stagnant "Trench Warfare" that arose in the Western Front was not the norm, but rather caused by a variety of geographical and doctrinal influences. In fact, it appears that maneuver warfare was actually pretty common in some war fronts.
Though as Laurentus said, this RP probably will focus on way more than just war (remember how PvC never even reached war, except that one incident where Science surrendered because we had relatively no military). In those cases, I think WW1 would probably be more interesting. Also don't forget that this is a nonserious RP, and we'll probably have some wonky fictional tech that would render usual WW1 fighting tactics useless.
This also brings me to the question: What will the global culture be like? Would it be closer to modern times? Those things could also influence, among many other things, how war is waged.
Post by: Aragonn on September 30, 2016, 08:08:03 AM
Of course the RP will focus on more than just war. Just war can get boring and monotonous. And the reasons why we never broke out into full war are because Colby had no ability to strike back at Miri by the time Miri got around to striking him and my militaristic society didn't want their asses to get handed to them.
My Aesir culture is, and has always been, an evolution of Ancient Norse culture. Whether you consider it to be more modern or not is up to you.
Post by: Laurentus on September 30, 2016, 09:03:39 AM
That said, I do wonder what our backstory will be. This world didn't just fall into existence. Once we've figured out our territory, we can discuss the relations between our nations.
I'll probably end up modeling my new nation closely on Laurentus States, so expect many of the same values, traditions, and strategies.
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 30, 2016, 01:05:23 PM
It is also worth noting that the commanders in the first world War were often wildly out of touch with reality. Many believed the moral superiority of their cause would overcome all obstacles. Obviously, it didn't work.The Roman Empire never succumbed to Papacy, but rather to the Potatacy, and never actually ended up falling entirely, instead becoming a state unified by the One True Faith.
That said, I do wonder what our backstory will be. This world didn't just fall into existence. Once we've figured out our territory, we can discuss the relations between our nations.
I'll probably end up modeling my new nation closely on Laurentus States, so expect many of the same values, traditions, and strategies.
Post by: Laurentus on September 30, 2016, 02:04:53 PM
Should we even be bound by real world history?
Post by: Aragonn on September 30, 2016, 03:01:19 PM
Post by: taulover on September 30, 2016, 03:39:41 PM
Edit: I do think WWII tech would be easier to RP, because we're more familiar with it, and it's closer to the modern world we all know.
Post by: Laurentus on September 30, 2016, 05:39:46 PM
I mean, reading that Reddit discussion really made me think about the plight of the average Allied soldier in the trenches.
Post by: HannahB on September 30, 2016, 06:01:27 PM
And 2 of my great grandfathers died it the great war, their bodies never recovered like most. One died in the trenches, he was a royal engineer and was killed by an artillery shell. The other was one of the engineering crew of the HMS Ardent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ardent_(1913)).
It's obvious but strange to think that people don't have the same knowledge and connection to that tiem ^-^
Anyway I find both world wars very interesting for different reasons...
I think WW2 is easier for RP purposes though... however there is potentially more intrigue going on in WW1 and it would be my personal preference, it was a much crazier time for a variety of reasons.
Post by: taulover on September 30, 2016, 06:52:07 PM
I did loads of WW1 history in Primary and High School it's a big part of the curriculum here... we read lots of poems and accounts from the men in the trenches.Remember that we're only using WW1 tech, not culture or geopolitics.
And 2 of my great grandfathers died it the great war, their bodies never recovered like most. One died in the trenches, he was a royal engineer and was killed by an artillery shell. The other was one of the engineering crew of the HMS Ardent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ardent_(1913)).
It's obvious but strange to think that people don't have the same knowledge and connection to that tiem ^-^
Anyway I find both world wars very interesting for different reasons...
I think WW2 is easier for RP purposes though... however there is potentially more intrigue going on in WW1 and it would be my personal preference, it was a much crazier time for a variety of reasons.
Post by: Laurentus on September 30, 2016, 06:59:46 PM
EDIT: I really like the difficulty associated with WWI, though. I think telegrams could make for an interesting source of drama.
Post by: HannahB on September 30, 2016, 07:54:53 PM
I did loads of WW1 history in Primary and High School it's a big part of the curriculum here... we read lots of poems and accounts from the men in the trenches.Remember that we're only using WW1 tech, not culture or geopolitics.
And 2 of my great grandfathers died it the great war, their bodies never recovered like most. One died in the trenches, he was a royal engineer and was killed by an artillery shell. The other was one of the engineering crew of the HMS Ardent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ardent_(1913)).
It's obvious but strange to think that people don't have the same knowledge and connection to that tiem ^-^
Anyway I find both world wars very interesting for different reasons...
I think WW2 is easier for RP purposes though... however there is potentially more intrigue going on in WW1 and it would be my personal preference, it was a much crazier time for a variety of reasons.
You are very right, I don't think I had all that worked out in my head, I see now. Thanks ^-^
Post by: taulover on September 30, 2016, 09:14:56 PM
EDIT: I really like the difficulty associated with WWI, though. I think telegrams could make for an interesting source of drama.Another interesting thing is that there was essentially no portable radio, so communications still had to be conveyed physically with runners.
Post by: Aragonn on October 01, 2016, 06:25:23 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 01, 2016, 07:03:29 AM
As we can see, we can can discuss the tech all day. Perhaps we should vote on it once and for all, and then move on.
Post by: Colberius X on October 01, 2016, 07:37:08 AM
I recently played Assassin's Creed: Black Flag again, and I must say that I would like to play using the 18th century tech as well. Naval warfare the way the pirates did it would be rad.This would be awesome.
Post by: Aragonn on October 01, 2016, 01:37:30 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 01, 2016, 01:50:07 PM
EDIT: Hmm, was it the "as well" that caused the confusion?
Post by: Aragonn on October 01, 2016, 01:50:58 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 01, 2016, 01:51:44 PM
I think you're really misunderstanding here. If we go the 18th century route, I mean we go there all the way, with nothing more advanced than a Man-of-War. I have literally no idea why you thought I meant a blend of 18th century and WWI/WWII tech.I misread your post. :-[
Post by: Laurentus on October 01, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 01, 2016, 02:00:29 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 01, 2016, 02:03:15 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 01, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
It does move it a bit too close to the conventional, for me, though.I'm uncertain about what you mean. Mind clarifying?
Post by: Laurentus on October 01, 2016, 02:08:53 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 01, 2016, 02:13:36 PM
I get that you want something new and different. That's why I set jets at such a high SA level. It's very difficult to reach unless you're actually trying to reach it.
Post by: Laurentus on October 01, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 01, 2016, 02:19:55 PM
Edit: Yeah, it barely got past 300.
Post by: Laurentus on October 01, 2016, 02:36:43 PM
Post by: taulover on October 01, 2016, 05:45:11 PM
Please be sure to check out the other threads I've created, since this is currently a bit unfocused. We still need a name, though.The name should come after the premise is established.
Also, is this the main discussion thread now?
Post by: Laurentus on October 01, 2016, 07:47:51 PM
Post by: taulover on October 02, 2016, 04:56:31 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 02, 2016, 05:56:49 AM
@Colberius X, when do you think would be a good time to start this?
Also, do we want to form our nations a few weeks before we start the RP, so our stats can be at least somewhat decent when we finally start IC?
Post by: Ashton Mercer on October 02, 2016, 11:38:23 PM
Post by: Crushita on October 03, 2016, 12:33:02 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 03, 2016, 01:12:28 AM
Post by: Colberius X on October 03, 2016, 01:51:28 AM
Obviously, we don't want to start this at a time when not everyone can be available.I should be good from October 15th on.
@Colberius X, when do you think would be a good time to start this?
Also, do we want to form our nations a few weeks before we start the RP, so our stats can be at least somewhat decent when we finally start IC?
It would make sense to found our nations at least a week before, but we need to make sure it's all on the same day (or close to it).
Post by: taulover on October 03, 2016, 05:04:10 AM
Given that information, should we found our nations a few days from now?Obviously, we don't want to start this at a time when not everyone can be available.I should be good from October 15th on.
@Colberius X, when do you think would be a good time to start this?
Also, do we want to form our nations a few weeks before we start the RP, so our stats can be at least somewhat decent when we finally start IC?
It would make sense to found our nations at least a week before, but we need to make sure it's all on the same day (or close to it).
Post by: Ashton Mercer on October 03, 2016, 05:29:05 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 03, 2016, 05:33:33 AM
Post by: Ashton Mercer on October 03, 2016, 05:36:43 AM
And Vikings with the Bismarck. :PIf we have a war, "which I certainly hope we do not", it would be AWESOME! :))
Post by: Ashton Mercer on October 03, 2016, 05:50:15 AM
Post by: taulover on October 03, 2016, 06:34:06 AM
I imagine Panama and Tierra del Fuego will be points of contention. Control over these areas will enable any country to permit or deny access for Potatoists in the western half of Afro-Eurasia and the eastern half of the Americas to easily get to the Andes, AKA the Potato Mountains.Meanwhile, all I have to do is cross the Pacific Ocean...
Post by: Aragonn on October 03, 2016, 06:42:12 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 03, 2016, 06:50:25 AM
Post by: Ashton Mercer on October 03, 2016, 01:57:16 PM
Has anyone claimed Northern Africa as of yet?
If I'm in Northern Europe and Crush is in Southern Europe, I imagine I'll be his number one rival.I thought Crush had the African Great Lakes, or did he change it?
Post by: Laurentus on October 03, 2016, 02:36:48 PM
Post by: Crushita on October 03, 2016, 03:00:19 PM
Yeah, he changed it to Italy.Yep! No Pope without Rome!
Post by: taulover on October 12, 2016, 04:52:25 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 12, 2016, 09:06:22 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 12, 2016, 10:16:55 AM
First we probably need to decide whether we'll house them in Wintreath or some other storage region. I can't actually think of any benefits to the latter, apart maybe for a RMB dedicated to OOC..You can also keep track of your standings with the other nations much more easily when they're all in their own region. That would benefit us a lot with constant stat checking.
Post by: taulover on October 12, 2016, 05:49:58 PM
Yeah, it's way better for organizational purposes.First we probably need to decide whether we'll house them in Wintreath or some other storage region. I can't actually think of any benefits to the latter, apart maybe for a RMB dedicated to OOC..You can also keep track of your standings with the other nations much more easily when they're all in their own region. That would benefit us a lot with constant stat checking.
Post by: taulover on October 15, 2016, 11:31:37 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 16, 2016, 05:42:37 PM
Post by: taulover on October 16, 2016, 07:23:36 PM
If anyone has the time, go right ahead.You have an idea for the region name? I would think that it would be the RP name or similar.
Also, we need to agree on when we found our nations.
Edit: If all else fails, we could go with "Potato[e] Wintreath."
Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 17, 2016, 12:50:16 AM
Edit: If all else fails, we could go with "Potato[e] Wintreath."Proceed with the creation of "Potato[e] Wintreath"!!!!
LET THE HEATHENS BURN!!! :P
Post by: taulover on October 17, 2016, 01:57:36 AM
My dilemma... with or without the e?Edit: If all else fails, we could go with "Potato[e] Wintreath."Proceed with the creation of "Potato[e] Wintreath"!!!!
LET THE HEATHENS BURN!!! :P
Post by: Crushita on October 17, 2016, 02:37:54 AM
I have made it! With Crushita to lord over it!
Password is reaping
Post by: Ashton Mercer on October 17, 2016, 03:33:15 AM
Post by: taulover on October 17, 2016, 04:18:31 AM
https://www.nationstates.net/region=potatostatesYou used your main nation??
I have made it! With Crushita to lord over it!
Password is reaping
It looks like Crushita already made his. I'm going to wait for @Laurentus's go-ahead before creating mine.
Post by: Laurentus on October 17, 2016, 08:02:27 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 17, 2016, 08:11:45 AM
Post by: taulover on October 17, 2016, 03:21:51 PM
For everyone in the US, that's 3 PM on the East Coast. If y'all ain't in EST, figure out what it would be in your time using the information I gave you.Noon PDT for the lazier.
Post by: Crushita on October 17, 2016, 05:29:02 PM
Newberia is my citizenship nation so I can do whatever I want with Crushita :Phttps://www.nationstates.net/region=potatostatesYou used your main nation??
I have made it! With Crushita to lord over it!
Password is reaping
It looks like Crushita already made his. I'm going to wait for @Laurentus's go-ahead before creating mine.
I'll make a new nation at that time if you want. Seems I jumped the gun
Post by: HannahB on October 17, 2016, 08:10:36 PM
Alright, how about we create it on the 18th, at around 21:00 GMT+2. Will that work for everyone?
Sounds good to me
Post by: Ashton Mercer on October 18, 2016, 04:18:44 AM
Post by: Colberius X on October 18, 2016, 04:31:30 AM
Quickly, I need an answer: Egyptians, Imperial Chinese, or IroquoisEgyptians.
Alright, how about we create it on the 18th, at around 21:00 GMT+2. Will that work for everyone?I can do that.
Post by: taulover on October 18, 2016, 05:04:30 AM
Quickly, I need an answer: Egyptians, Imperial Chinese, or IroquoisI thought you were going with Iroquois...
I support Imperial Chinese.
And now it is time for me to research how the opening questions affect stats.
Post by: Ashton Mercer on October 18, 2016, 05:50:47 AM
I was, but I thought up two other interesting cultures and civilizations I can base my nation upon so I put it up for a vote. Now I have one for Egyptians, one for Imperial Chinese, and none for the Iroquois.Quickly, I need an answer: Egyptians, Imperial Chinese, or IroquoisI thought you were going with Iroquois...
I support Imperial Chinese.
And now it is time for me to research how the opening questions affect stats.
Same. I think they tell you what it does at the beginning though on desktop. :P
Post by: taulover on October 18, 2016, 06:19:45 AM
Same. I think they tell you what it does at the beginning though on desktop. :POh wow, that's new. When they added the "load more stats" option, I had no idea that it also included the new nation choices.
Edit: I seem to have not realized the implications of this news post:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2016/07/21/index.html
Post by: Hydra on October 18, 2016, 06:45:21 AM
Alright, how about we create it on the 18th, at around 21:00 GMT+2. Will that work for everyone?
Sounds good.
Quickly, I need an answer: Egyptians, Imperial Chinese, or Iroquois
Aww... This is hard. If I had to choose I'd support Imperial Chinese.
Post by: Laurentus on October 18, 2016, 10:53:08 AM
Post by: Crushita on October 18, 2016, 11:14:40 AM
Quickly, I need an answer: Egyptians, Imperial Chinese, or IroquoisThe Iroquois do not get any love! I vote for them!
Post by: Felicity Mercer on October 18, 2016, 01:35:13 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 18, 2016, 01:43:53 PM
Post by: Felicity Mercer on October 18, 2016, 01:48:26 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 18, 2016, 01:55:19 PM
Post by: Felicity Mercer on October 18, 2016, 02:02:51 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 18, 2016, 02:27:17 PM
I am not allowed in roleplays. My characters have a tendency toward realism and individuality that infuriates other players who want my character to conform to their expected storyline. It's unfortunate, because I enjoy writing and I'm good at it, but what can you do? ???Not all of our RPs are like that. We have From the Ashes where you can have characters as realistic as you want.
Edit: I actually prefer realism myself, but not to the extent where it disrupts the story. Though in FtA, I don't think there's a set story that's supposed to be going on, so we're all kinda just making it up as we go along.
Post by: Felicity Mercer on October 18, 2016, 03:24:15 PM
Post by: taulover on October 18, 2016, 03:35:02 PM
Yeah I'm the GM? DM? LM? and I don't even know what the hell North is doing with his storyline.I am not allowed in roleplays. My characters have a tendency toward realism and individuality that infuriates other players who want my character to conform to their expected storyline. It's unfortunate, because I enjoy writing and I'm good at it, but what can you do? ???Not all of our RPs are like that. We have From the Ashes where you can have characters as realistic as you want.
Edit: I actually prefer realism myself, but not to the extent where it disrupts the story. Though in FtA, I don't think there's a set story that's supposed to be going on, so we're all kinda just making it up as we go along.
Post by: Ashton Mercer on October 18, 2016, 05:20:36 PM
I'm going with Egypt.
Post by: Crushita on October 18, 2016, 07:43:16 PM
So now it's a three way tie. Wow, you guys are no help at all. :P
I'm going with Egypt.
NOoooooooooooo The poor Iroquoooois. Unloved and unwanted.
Post by: Laurentus on October 18, 2016, 07:55:41 PM
Post by: Crushita on October 18, 2016, 08:13:54 PM
Though I do not praise my negative scientific advancement score. Perhaps I went a little toooooo spiritualist :P
Post by: taulover on October 18, 2016, 08:18:42 PM
didn't go authoritarian enough
Post by: taulover on October 18, 2016, 08:23:47 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 18, 2016, 08:25:05 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 18, 2016, 08:25:58 PM
Post by: Crushita on October 18, 2016, 08:26:52 PM
Yo Crushita I'm not the GM?
*Sudden realization I gave it to the wrong nation*
Post by: taulover on October 18, 2016, 08:30:48 PM
Who is Trychnos and why is he GM?Yo Crushita I'm not the GM?
*Sudden realization I gave it to the wrong nation*
Post by: Crushita on October 18, 2016, 08:32:08 PM
Who is Trychnos and why is he GM?Yo Crushita I'm not the GM?
*Sudden realization I gave it to the wrong nation*
Wait if you're not Potatoeist Science, Not Trychnos, I'm Crushita/Potato State and Laurentus is Laurentus then are you even in the region?!
Post by: taulover on October 18, 2016, 08:34:49 PM
I am Potatoeist ScienceWho is Trychnos and why is he GM?Yo Crushita I'm not the GM?
*Sudden realization I gave it to the wrong nation*
Wait if you're not Potatoeist Science, Not Trychnos, I'm Crushita/Potato State and Laurentus is Laurentus then are you even in the region?!
I'm not the GM though?
Dammit acronyms
Post by: Crushita on October 18, 2016, 08:37:21 PM
I am Potatoeist ScienceWho is Trychnos and why is he GM?Yo Crushita I'm not the GM?
*Sudden realization I gave it to the wrong nation*
Wait if you're not Potatoeist Science, Not Trychnos, I'm Crushita/Potato State and Laurentus is Laurentus then are you even in the region?!
I'm not the GM though?
Dammit acronyms
*Sudden realization you were talking about a different RP*
I should realllllly keep up on things. How do I give Laurentus executive so I don't mess up? XD
Post by: taulover on October 18, 2016, 08:42:34 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 18, 2016, 08:43:27 PM
And I am Laurentus Setats.
Post by: Crushita on October 18, 2016, 08:43:36 PM
you already did...
My point exactly!
Post by: Laurentus on October 18, 2016, 08:45:14 PM
Post by: Crushita on October 18, 2016, 08:47:09 PM
I'm confused. So very confused.Its called horrendous misunderstanding on my part.
Post by: HannahB on October 18, 2016, 08:53:05 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 18, 2016, 09:22:52 PM
Post by: HannahB on October 18, 2016, 09:24:31 PM
Oh and I'm The Federation of Unified Trade States :P just so ya'll know
Post by: Aragonn on October 18, 2016, 09:44:38 PM
Post by: Colberius X on October 18, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
That'd be me, and it's because I always end up in charge. ;)Who is Trychnos and why is he GM?Yo Crushita I'm not the GM?
*Sudden realization I gave it to the wrong nation*
Post by: taulover on October 18, 2016, 09:56:46 PM
(Yeah, LM is our new ABBREVIATION).If you want to be technical, the term is initialism.
Post by: taulover on October 18, 2016, 10:06:43 PM
The Neo Aesir are in! And we have the healthiest citizens. ^-^how dare you challenge scientist supremacy
Post by: Aragonn on October 18, 2016, 10:17:05 PM
We dare challenge everyone!The Neo Aesir are in! And we have the healthiest citizens. ^-^how dare you challenge scientist supremacy
Post by: Ashton Mercer on October 18, 2016, 11:44:51 PM
Who is The Dominion of Desheret-Kemia?Yours truly. I'm going for some commercial routes, so I think we should be allies based off of your name! :D
Oh and I'm The Federation of Unified Trade States :P just so ya'll know
Post by: Hydra on October 19, 2016, 03:58:32 AM
Post by: taulover on October 19, 2016, 05:25:30 AM
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=potatoeist_science/detail=trend/nations=neo_aesir+desheret-kemia+unified_trade_states+holy_potatoe_empire+laurentus_setats+trychnos+holy_potato_state+morning_gold?censusid=46
Post by: HannahB on October 19, 2016, 01:59:26 PM
Who is The Dominion of Desheret-Kemia?Yours truly. I'm going for some commercial routes, so I think we should be allies based off of your name! :D
Oh and I'm The Federation of Unified Trade States :P just so ya'll know
Yeah, I think that sounds like a good idea ^-^
Post by: Gerrick on October 19, 2016, 02:52:45 PM
Post by: taulover on October 19, 2016, 04:06:52 PM
Hello, all. I've decided to join as Barbaross. :DLink updated.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=potatoeist_science/detail=trend/nations=neo_aesir+desheret-kemia+unified_trade_states+holy_potatoe_empire+laurentus_setats+trychnos+holy_potato_state+morning_gold+barbaross?censusid=46
Edit: If anyone's wondering why I'm not just using the bar graphs, it's because I can remove nations on the trendlines (the nation Crushita messes with everything) and because I like to see the change over time.
Post by: Aragonn on October 19, 2016, 05:51:12 PM
Post by: Colberius X on October 19, 2016, 05:58:04 PM
Am I the only one who's been getting military issues? Because y'all have some serious catching up to do.I keep getting the irrelevant issues, like privatizing beaches or keeping Maxtopian artwork. -__-
Post by: HannahB on October 19, 2016, 06:14:58 PM
Lots about books and the automobile industry
Post by: HannahB on October 19, 2016, 06:33:11 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 19, 2016, 06:42:52 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 19, 2016, 07:03:16 PM
How is this double post possible!??? :o :o :o
Clearly the work of the heathens!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 19, 2016, 07:03:31 PM
I hate how I don't know which answer to pick for a lot of issues....Me too! Violetists have nothing to do with His Starchy Will!!
Post by: taulover on October 19, 2016, 08:16:53 PM
I just want more science issues. (Of course, my economy is still utter shit, so I still need to work on that too.)
Post by: Laurentus on October 19, 2016, 10:58:57 PM
Post by: Cinciri on October 20, 2016, 07:24:31 PM
Post by: Colberius X on October 20, 2016, 07:46:05 PM
May I join based off of my Nation, The Private Military Contractor with a government, or more commonly known as The Warriors Republic of Yaim RusurWe've actually all created new nations for the purposes of this RP, in the interests of fairness. You're welcome to make a new nation and move it to the region Potatostates if you want to join in. Our nations are only two days old, so you won't be behind by much.
Post by: Cinciri on October 20, 2016, 08:13:47 PM
Oh, can I use a secondary nation that I have that has only existed for a few weeks?May I join based off of my Nation, The Private Military Contractor with a government, or more commonly known as The Warriors Republic of Yaim RusurWe've actually all created new nations for the purposes of this RP, in the interests of fairness. You're welcome to make a new nation and move it to the region Potatostates if you want to join in. Our nations are only two days old, so you won't be behind by much.
Post by: Laurentus on October 20, 2016, 08:23:52 PM
Post by: Cinciri on October 20, 2016, 08:30:23 PM
Post by: Cinciri on October 20, 2016, 08:44:15 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 20, 2016, 11:48:19 PM
Post by: taulover on October 21, 2016, 12:22:43 AM
Creation of the Nomadic Peoples of Latvichka has commenced! I intend to create a nation that is as primitive as possibleHuh, it looks like NS only lets you compare 10 nations at once. :(
Post by: Gerrick on October 21, 2016, 08:29:57 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 23, 2016, 03:25:35 AM
My country will be going blue.
Post by: Aragonn on October 23, 2016, 03:55:32 AM
Post by: Colberius X on October 23, 2016, 04:44:04 AM
Post by: taulover on October 23, 2016, 05:49:46 AM
(sorry non-Hyperian Imperial Council members, you don't get to see this)
Post by: Laurentus on October 23, 2016, 06:12:27 AM
Post by: Colberius X on October 23, 2016, 06:25:14 AM
Oh Colby, how could you forsake purple? Remember this discussion (http://w11.zetaboards.com/New_Hyperion/topic/10745583/4/#post8329456)?I most certainly do remember it. But purple wasn't an option, and I cannot support the spread of that potato cult.
Actually, we probably could use some sort of chaotic neutral faction.I can, however, support this, which Trychnos would probably be a part of, depending on how we defined it. Trychnos will likely be officially unopinionated, but with a citizenry that's predominately opposed to potatoism.
Post by: Laurentus on October 23, 2016, 06:33:27 AM
Oh Colby, how could you forsake purple? Remember this discussion (http://w11.zetaboards.com/New_Hyperion/topic/10745583/4/#post8329456)?This made me sad. Ah, when NH was still going places...
(sorry non-Hyperian Imperial Council members, you don't get to see this)
And Laurentus States was the chief chaotic neutral faction in PvC, but I remember Colbentielle also being fond of such tactics? So this is (in my mind, if not canonically) a time before Laurentian imperialism was a thing.
Post by: taulover on October 23, 2016, 08:53:34 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 24, 2016, 03:06:52 AM
PS: DEATH TO THOSE WHO WORSHIP THE GREAT MELON!!!
Post by: Aragonn on October 24, 2016, 03:20:25 AM
Post by: taulover on October 24, 2016, 05:25:23 AM
Have you potatoes in your ears or are you just hard at hearing? The Neo Aesir will take any military action deemed necessary to ensure the safety of their great nation. Any military action against us will be an act of war, and war is something we're quite skilled at.Hear, hear!
"The Holy Spud builds his temple in the heart on the ruins of churches and religions." —Ralph Waldo Potatoeson
Edit: Huh. I didn't realize that I had surpassed you in Defense Forces at one point.
Post by: HannahB on October 24, 2016, 06:37:04 AM
Post by: Crushita on October 24, 2016, 01:46:38 PM
Post by: Colberius X on October 24, 2016, 02:51:55 PM
NS describes my people as compassionate, cynical AND devout.Add cheerful, and that's the NS description of the population of Colbentielle. The citizens of Trychnos, however, are hard-nosed and cynical, apparently.
Upon further inspection, I'm noticing a few major similarities between our populaces... The people of Barbaross, Desheret-Kemia, Unified Trade States, and Laurentus Setats are all hard-nosed, hard-working and cynical. Citizens of Holy Potatoe Empire are hard-working and cynical; the Neo Aesir are hard-nosed and hard-working; Morning Goldians are hard-working. Potatoeist Science is the only one without hard-nosed, hard-working, or cynical in NS's description of its populace.
Post by: Laurentus on October 24, 2016, 02:56:16 PM
Post by: Colberius X on October 24, 2016, 02:59:17 PM
I'm going for the same strategy I did back in PvC. This time I'm just doing it a lot sooner. And it seems many have followed suit.I wasn't willing to sacrifice Colbentielle to an RP (although it happened anyway), but Trychnos was created for this express purpose, and so I'm answering issues mostly for stats. I imagine many feel the same about their RP nations.
Post by: taulover on October 24, 2016, 04:10:19 PM
Post by: HannahB on October 24, 2016, 06:00:23 PM
And for reference on what that is; I wrote the factbooks (https://www.nationstates.net/nation=unified_trade_states/detail=factbook) to remind me and compare with.
For example I have been picking industry over military in a few issues, and I am not just trying to straight up oppress people so in one issue I made drugs legal because I can't imagine a merchant republic banning any possible commodities. Ect. ^-^
Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 24, 2016, 08:36:14 PM
I actually pick my options on the basis of what my nation would do. So I RP them with the idea that I am the government I've made up. :))DEATH TO THE BLASPHEMOUS UNITED TRADE STATES BOURGEOISIE!!! LONG LIVE THE DEVOUT STARCHY PROLETARIAT! :P
And for reference on what that is; I wrote the factbooks (https://www.nationstates.net/nation=unified_trade_states/detail=factbook) to remind me and compare with.
For example I have been picking industry over military in a few issues, and I am not just trying to straight up oppress people so in one issue I made drugs legal because I can't imagine a merchant republic banning any possible commodities. Ect. ^-^
Post by: Cinciri on October 24, 2016, 08:51:29 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 24, 2016, 09:17:06 PM
When you think of Latvichka, think a cross of Native Americans, and Mongols. Mongol lifestyle and religious ideals (shamanism) but with fairly primitive tools (note that I am NOT referring to modern day Native Americans, but instead referring to tools they utilized pre-American colonization). That said, they might be able to be converted, though they will still worship spirits and nature, they may be convinced to worship any god that comes to them first as wellYou do realize that we're all using European technology during those colonial times, right?
Post by: Crushita on October 24, 2016, 09:20:17 PM
Post by: taulover on October 24, 2016, 10:18:05 PM
When you think of Latvichka, think a cross of Native Americans, and Mongols. Mongol lifestyle and religious ideals (shamanism) but with fairly primitive tools (note that I am NOT referring to modern day Native Americans, but instead referring to tools they utilized pre-American colonization). That said, they might be able to be converted, though they will still worship spirits and nature, they may be convinced to worship any god that comes to them first as wellUh... Amerindians created complex civilizations throughout the Americas. On first contact, the Native Americans and the Europeans were on roughly equal footing, and it was only later that this balance of power shifted toward the whites committing genocide.
At this point I just take any decision I feel is appropriate for my nation regardless of its effects. My Economy and science are so tanked anyway that it doesn't matter. And of course I have many nations loyal to the holy potato(Praise be unto it) to protect me !My last issue choice (which worked in rather unexpected ways) kinda shows me that maybe I should choose the issue choices that I feel fit my nation better, rather than one that kinda works but that I'm trying to pick more for the stats.
Post by: HannahB on October 24, 2016, 10:27:13 PM
When you think of Latvichka, think a cross of Native Americans, and Mongols. Mongol lifestyle and religious ideals (shamanism) but with fairly primitive tools (note that I am NOT referring to modern day Native Americans, but instead referring to tools they utilized pre-American colonization). That said, they might be able to be converted, though they will still worship spirits and nature, they may be convinced to worship any god that comes to them first as wellUh... Amerindians created complex civilizations throughout the Americas. On first contact, the Native Americans and the Europeans were on roughly equal footing, and it was only later that this balance of power shifted toward the whites committing genocide.
I'm sorry, roughly equal footing in relation to what? I'm going to need a citation for that one. Unless you are referring to the Norse in the 10th Century?
Also European =/= White
Post by: taulover on October 25, 2016, 12:31:43 AM
I'm sorry, roughly equal footing in relation to what? I'm going to need a citation for that one.Fuck, that's what I get from quoting from my APUSH textbook. It's actually a fairly good textbook, but like most of them it sucks at citations. Plus, I think they might be overly biasing their revisionism in favor of Amerindians to counter incorrect traditional narratives of European dominance and superiority. However, the text does make note of European expeditions/colonies ending or nearly ending in failure due to resistance by preexisting nations (often caused by breakdown of diplomatic relations after both sides demanded tribute from each other), Indians often gaining diplomatic superiority (eg: playing the British against the French by maintaining neutrality and securing alliances with both parties), natives' quick adaptation to and adoption of European technology such as firearms, etc.
On a slightly different note, I think this 9-part series on /r/badhistory (https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/2vf565/myths_of_conquest_part_nine_the_terminal_narrative/) might interest you.
The main things that bothered me were Cin'ciri's statements of "fairly primitive tools" (natives had fairly elaborate technology and quickly adapted to utilize) and statements that "they may be convinced to worship any god that comes to them first as well" (which seems to paint them almost as gullible). I apologize if I misread those statements.
Post by: HannahB on October 25, 2016, 12:50:33 AM
I'm sorry, roughly equal footing in relation to what? I'm going to need a citation for that one.Fuck, that's what I get from quoting from my APUSH textbook. It's actually a fairly good textbook, but like most of them it sucks at citations. Plus, I think they might be overly biasing their revisionism in favor of Amerindians to counter incorrect traditional narratives of European dominance and superiority. However, the text does make note of European expeditions/colonies ending or nearly ending in failure due to resistance by preexisting nations (often caused by breakdown of diplomatic relations after both sides demanded tribute from each other), Indians often gaining diplomatic superiority (eg: playing the British against the French), natives' quick adaptation to and adoption of European technology such as firearms, etc.
On a slightly different note, I think this 9-part series on /r/badhistory (https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/2vf565/myths_of_conquest_part_nine_the_terminal_narrative/) might interest you.
The main things that bothered me were Cin'ciri's statements of "fairly primitive tools" (natives had fairly elaborate technology and quickly adapted to utilize) and statements that "they may be convinced to worship any god that comes to them first as well" (which paints them almost as gullible). I apologize if I misread those statements.
I see, and I see what you were getting at! The native tribes have had a bad rap in a lot of history when in actuality they were very smart and ingenious people, sadly just sorta unlucky. :-\
Thanks for the link, however I have been directed to that series of posts before, though I do still greatly appreciate the thought. :) In my personal experience and based on my limited knowledge I find that many aspects of the whole situation are very amero-centric, often only mentioning the mess Europe, Asia, the Middle East and North Africa were getting themselves into in passing, and especially the type of people that agreed to head to the "New World". It was a real sorry time in history (not that any part of history is particularly jolly :)) )
Anyway, that's not for here, not just now, but I would like to have a discussion about all that. Through I don't want to sideline this topic anymore, maybe in the The Hall of Great Discussions?
Anyway I've been really enjoying this RP thing so far, so I'll get back to that ^-^
Post by: taulover on October 25, 2016, 01:03:37 AM
One thing I really liked about the American history textbook my school uses is that it actually devotes equal time in discussing pre-Columbian Americas, Africa, and Europe. It's an US history textbook, so it's naturally Amerocentric, but at least it focused on the broader context.
It's really interesting to look into the macro-scale and see how different societies were affecting each other at the time. For example, the Ming Dynasty was in decline until European trade led to economic prosperity and the Columbian Exchange brought an agricultural boom before a final decline caused the Qing conquest of China.
Post by: HannahB on October 25, 2016, 01:21:34 AM
(sorry for continuing the discussion, if we do choose to continue this mods feel free to move these posts over to a new thread)Ah that's great :D I never studied history academically only did the basics for a UK education in HS, but I have read a lot about it in my personal time, though my areas of expertise would especially be 1800s -> 1950s as that's where I've done most my reading.
One thing I really liked about the American history textbook my school uses is that it actually devotes equal time in discussing pre-Columbian Americas, Africa, and Europe. It's an US history textbook, so it's naturally Amerocentric, but at least it focused on the broader context.
It's really interesting to look into the macro-scale and see how different societies were affecting each other at the time. For example, the Ming Dynasty was in decline until European trade led to economic prosperity and the Columbian Exchange brought an agricultural boom before a final decline caused the Qing conquest of China.
The interconnectivity and globalisation of the world in the colonial age and before was very impressive, if it wasn't for the trade routes to China, the dynasties wouldn't have been able to maintain their constant arms race with their neighbours, which is what led to the development of the firearm. And if it hadn't have been for those same trade routes, especially along the so called "silk road" then that development might not have arrived in the Middle East as it did, and the black powder allowed the ottomans to develop their bombards and cannons, to compete against their own enemies in Africa and the middle East... And then the Maritime republics picked up on it, and the Europeans that fought the Ottomans, everyone wanted one and all that added up to the firearm having spread from one coast of Eurasia to the other in 50 years!
Theres so much more detail to it, and I could go on for ages, but just to give an idea, and because its in my mind just now. ^-^
A big interest of mine is mathematical ideas and how thsy spread and moved around, and especially how modern historians can tell what concepts moved where from records and accounts, but also the architecture and engineering that cultures showed. I find it very interesting indeed.
Post by: Cinciri on October 25, 2016, 08:28:33 PM
When you think of Latvichka, think a cross of Native Americans, and Mongols. Mongol lifestyle and religious ideals (shamanism) but with fairly primitive tools (note that I am NOT referring to modern day Native Americans, but instead referring to tools they utilized pre-American colonization). That said, they might be able to be converted, though they will still worship spirits and nature, they may be convinced to worship any god that comes to them first as wellUh... Amerindians created complex civilizations throughout the Americas. On first contact, the Native Americans and the Europeans were on roughly equal footing, and it was only later that this balance of power shifted toward the whites committing genocide.
Civilizations yes, but note I was not referring to civilizations, instead referring to tools used before the Europeans arrived in 1620 (North America specifically, reference the Kanien'kéha and Lakota people) such as tomahawks (though the blade differs in shape from the original) and lack of firearms. Instead they take pride in archery skills and make a wide range of bow types for different uses. Also note that as a history buff so I actually do know what I am talking about. When I say fairly primitive I am not at all saying a lack of beautiful craftsmanship or useful technology, which have existed for thousands of years. What I mean by primitive is no power tools, no factories or special tool making facilities. Each person makes their own tools. I also would like to state that the "they may be convinced to worship any god that comes to them first as well" was in reference to the Ancient Mongolian religion of Tengrism, which was a shamanic religion that part of it's core beliefs was that there is no single way to worship god. This was not in reference to the Native peoples of the Americas at all, whom I have a great respect for. Possession of technology in my eyes does not specifically make something primitive, for example we now a days refer to some phones as primitive, or computers as primitive. What I believe defines true primitiveness in tools or objects is how advanced they are in comparing with tools of other nations at that time, OR how they are made compared to typical production methods. If you were to develop say a very finely crafted and complex weapon such as, for the sake of imagination and example, a spring opening sword (first thing that popped into my head), but you made it of scrap metal and some other parts you found lying around and built it yourself. This would be something that I would call primitive, because it might lack any power tools used to make it, it wouldn't have any purchased pre made parts specifically for it, and is might be great in a survival situation but it might not look amazing (then again it might, looking nice doesn't mean it isn't primitive to me) So that is my attempt at clarification, I am happy to answer any questions that might have not been answered in this.
Post by: HannahB on October 25, 2016, 09:22:23 PM
In other news I may be insecure and whiney :))
Post by: taulover on October 26, 2016, 12:05:45 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 26, 2016, 12:08:51 AM
Porque no los dos?
Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 26, 2016, 02:31:23 PM
Post by: HannahB on October 26, 2016, 04:12:33 PM
Question: Are we going to do our factbooks on NS, or on the forums?
Porque no los dos?
I would assume on the forums, as it'd be neater and easier to follow, but I suppose we could do both...
I actually agree. The forums make more sense, I just had some free time so I thought I'd write some for my nation on NS. Also I'd probably post any I write here on NS and vice-versa.
However if there is a main place to put them it should be the forums. :)
Post by: Aragonn on October 28, 2016, 06:36:13 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 28, 2016, 09:34:55 PM
Post by: taulover on October 29, 2016, 01:39:30 AM
Why are my defense forces dropping?? What the fuck?!Because Science clearly deserves to have the best military. :P
Post by: Hydra on October 29, 2016, 03:13:02 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 29, 2016, 09:48:34 AM
I've brought it back up to about 90 under you.Why are my defense forces dropping?? What the fuck?!Because Science clearly deserves to have the best military. :P
Post by: Laurentus on October 29, 2016, 09:57:48 AM
Also, we should be careful not to have too many neutral/chaotic neutral nations.
Post by: Crushita on October 29, 2016, 01:38:25 PM
So, @Eldarion, what will your introductory post look like?Her Eminence, Potato Pope Spudacious XI lamenting why her nation is so shit despite it being blessed by the Holy and Ever Righteous tuber.
Also, we should be careful not to have too many neutral/chaotic neutral nations.
Yes, the Potato Curia is an all female body.
Why you ask?
Why not.
Post by: Laurentus on October 29, 2016, 02:11:24 PM
Post by: taulover on October 29, 2016, 02:26:28 PM
I'm coming around to 18th-19th Century myself, especially after the counting thread (and AP US History) led me to learn more about the time.
Post by: Laurentus on October 29, 2016, 03:40:30 PM
Post by: Gattoartico on October 30, 2016, 03:49:14 AM
Post by: taulover on October 30, 2016, 04:26:27 AM
The 18th - 19th centuries sound quite spicy. I just need to dust off the old combat gear.Welcome to Potatoestates! Thought not necessary, I recommend joining the RP Guild here (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=2959.0).
Post by: Aragonn on November 02, 2016, 05:13:34 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on November 03, 2016, 01:25:12 PM
In other news, the Holy Potatoe Empire has the highest poor incomes! (Albeit at the expense of highest average incomes, I'm afraid, but the poor spend all their money to contribute to the economy! Yay economics!!)
EDIT: Also 18th-19th Century is WAY more unique. We've a modern era roleplay already (Wintrean Union).
Post by: taulover on November 03, 2016, 03:04:53 PM
When do you want it to start? :PWWI-WWII is also pretty far into the past...
In other news, the Holy Potatoe Empire has the highest poor incomes! (Albeit at the expense of highest average incomes, I'm afraid, but the poor spend all their money to contribute to the economy! Yay economics!!)
EDIT: Also 18th-19th Century is WAY more unique. We've a modern era roleplay already (Wintrean Union).
Post by: Cinciri on November 03, 2016, 07:43:48 PM
Post by: Cinciri on November 07, 2016, 08:47:06 PM
Post by: Laurentus on November 08, 2016, 03:54:11 PM
Post by: Aragonn on November 08, 2016, 03:56:25 PM
An issue I just answered contained the f-word, but in Afrikaans. "Befok" is indeed a nice word, but I've reported the issue.Good thing South Africans are so good with languages. :P
Post by: Cinciri on November 21, 2016, 09:13:02 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on November 21, 2016, 11:23:33 PM
Question about how this roleplay is going to work, from whose point of view is it to be from? Like the leader of our nation or someone else?Everything will be done through the publication of defence white papers in our fictional native tongues :P
Post by: taulover on November 21, 2016, 11:36:18 PM
Question about how this roleplay is going to work, from whose point of view is it to be from? Like the leader of our nation or someone else?All POVs, most likely. That's how nation RPs usually work. (See From the Ashes for an example.)
Post by: Laurentus on November 22, 2016, 03:18:02 AM
Also, how does starting the RP when we're at 300 million citizens sound?
Post by: taulover on December 05, 2016, 09:37:05 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 06, 2016, 01:40:11 AM
Wait, why did Crushita's nation CTE?Did it!?
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 06, 2016, 01:40:34 AM
Any character you care to use in your post, provided you follow the rules.Also I think we've hit that... I certainly have and I wasn't the first one founded...
Also, how does starting the RP when we're at 300 million citizens sound?
Post by: taulover on December 06, 2016, 01:43:19 AM
You're at 237 million, not 300... interesting that the changes in death rate actually seem to be affecting the population.Any character you care to use in your post, provided you follow the rules.Also I think we've hit that... I certainly have and I wasn't the first one founded...
Also, how does starting the RP when we're at 300 million citizens sound?
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 06, 2016, 01:46:08 AM
Drat. I could've sworn it was 300.... *facepalm*You're at 237 million, not 300... interesting that the changes in death rate actually seem to be affecting the population.Any character you care to use in your post, provided you follow the rules.Also I think we've hit that... I certainly have and I wasn't the first one founded...
Also, how does starting the RP when we're at 300 million citizens sound?
Post by: Crushita on December 06, 2016, 01:53:22 AM
IT HAS BEEN RESTORED.
I haven't answered issues in so long though xD
Post by: Aragonn on December 06, 2016, 02:04:28 AM
Post by: Hydra on December 06, 2016, 02:05:37 AM
I haven't been answering issues either. With no action, I lost my interest.
Yeah, me too.
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 06, 2016, 02:14:30 AM
I haven't been answering issues either. With no action, I lost my interest.Yeah tau is the only one who's been really consistently answering issues :P
Post by: Laurentus on December 06, 2016, 03:12:36 PM
Post by: taulover on December 06, 2016, 04:12:17 PM
I guess we should start then.Good idea, we should start earlier since everyone is already getting bored.
Post by: Laurentus on December 06, 2016, 06:28:42 PM
Post by: taulover on December 06, 2016, 06:48:03 PM
Shall we decide the tech with a coin-toss?Fine by me. Or we could do a runoff vote.
Post by: Aragonn on December 06, 2016, 06:52:41 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 07, 2016, 01:23:49 AM
Post by: Arenado on December 07, 2016, 02:30:49 PM
Post by: Laurentus on December 07, 2016, 03:50:10 PM
Post by: Sapphiron on December 07, 2016, 05:15:36 PM
Post by: Laurentus on December 07, 2016, 05:32:25 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 07, 2016, 05:32:56 PM
Sure, what is the other alternative besides "18th-19th Century"?^^18th century
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 07, 2016, 05:33:16 PM
Post by: Aragonn on December 07, 2016, 05:39:29 PM
Sure, what is the other alternative besides "18th-19th Century"?^^18th century
Darn you beat me to it... :PReally? You trying to sabotage?
Post by: Sapphiron on December 07, 2016, 05:41:56 PM
Random Name Picker says
18th to 19th Century
Have fun guys! Will be reading your stories ;)
Post by: Aragonn on December 07, 2016, 05:45:26 PM
Post by: Colberius X on December 07, 2016, 05:57:11 PM
Post by: taulover on December 07, 2016, 06:00:50 PM
Post by: Laurentus on December 07, 2016, 06:06:34 PM
A most excellent outcome.
I don't know much, myself. @taulover, have you been scouring reddits? Have you found anything that could help us in the RP?
Post by: taulover on December 07, 2016, 06:16:38 PM
The god of chance has decided!This is a good place to start:
A most excellent outcome.
I don't know much, myself. @taulover, have you been scouring reddits? Have you found anything that could help us in the RP?
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/faq
Post by: HannahB on December 07, 2016, 07:40:22 PM
Also this site is full of ads; but it does give a nice quick run down of big inventions, which can let you get a good idea of what we're dealing with(but seriously adblock guys).
1700s (http://inventors.about.com/od/timelines/a/Eighteenth.htm) to 1800s (http://inventors.about.com/od/timelines/a/Nineteenth.htm).
Post by: taulover on December 07, 2016, 07:58:21 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/faq/militaryhistory/earlymodernwar
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2kcv1d/we_often_hear_about_how_war_changed_in_the_20th/clk900x/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/science#wiki_communications
Post by: Arenado on December 07, 2016, 10:13:51 PM
Post by: taulover on December 07, 2016, 10:28:52 PM
So 18 century, mid 1800's or late, or early 1900's?In the tech thread, Robin suggested a method of using Scientific Advancement score to determine your tech level:
Super easy tech system: All techs from year 1700 available. All other techs accessible by year of invention-1700 multiplied by two:Also a reminder that 18th century = 1700s.
Ex: Cotton Gin (1793) = 1793-1700 = 93*2 = 186. (Available at 186 tech)
Does that sound like an ok-ish way of doing things? :)
Edit: Using that system, my nation, Potatoeist Science (which has the highest SA score), has 1827 tech, while Latvichka (with a very negative SA score) is at 1643 tech. Sounds like a pretty realistic tech range to me.
Post by: Arenado on December 07, 2016, 11:45:22 PM
Post by: Cinciri on December 07, 2016, 11:45:35 PM
I mean, we could have that tech, or at least be aware of that tech, but we prefer simpler things. Such as using mostly bows as opposed to flintlocks and wearing more archaic clothes and armor.
Edit: Using that system, my nation, Potatoeist Science (which has the highest SA score), has 1827 tech, while Latvichka (with a very negative SA score) is at 1643 tech. Sounds like a pretty realistic tech range to me.
Edit: My reasoning behind this is because not only am I last in scientific advancement in the region, I am also in the top .8 percent in the world for primitiveness.
Post by: taulover on December 08, 2016, 12:19:20 AM
Post by: Gerrick on December 08, 2016, 12:27:38 AM
Also, since I couldn't resist the urge not to, here's everyone's SA at the time of this post:
1827 Potatoeist Science
1808 Holy Potatoe Empire
1771 Neo Aesir
1768 Morning Gold
1750 Laurentus Setats
1750 Trychnos
1750 Barbaross
1748 Unified Trade States
1735 The Chosen of Odin
1666 Holy Potato State
1643 Latvichka
Mean: 1747, Median 1750
Post by: Cinciri on December 08, 2016, 01:02:37 AM
Yeah, sure, just don't be surprised if your nation gets ignored and then colonized by various world powers.Why would you want to though?
Post by: taulover on December 08, 2016, 01:15:04 AM
My nation probably won't, but it's basically free land with a bunch of primitive savages there.Yeah, sure, just don't be surprised if your nation gets ignored and then colonized by various world powers.Why would you want to though?
See: Manifest Destiny, British Raj, Scramble for Africa, etc.
Post by: Laurentus on December 08, 2016, 02:30:10 AM
Also, how the fuck did I get up to fifth with SA?
Post by: Colberius X on December 08, 2016, 02:42:28 AM
Post by: taulover on December 08, 2016, 02:46:26 AM
Post by: Laurentus on December 08, 2016, 02:56:07 AM
Post by: Laurentus on December 08, 2016, 04:16:37 AM
This will become our OOC thread.
Post by: Laurentus on December 08, 2016, 04:38:17 AM
Everyone else, I would appreciate it if you could hold off for a bit. I know we're eager to get started
Post by: Aragonn on December 08, 2016, 04:39:05 AM
Alright, we're live. @Gerrick, @Aragonn or @Sapphiron, I would appreciate it if you move all topics related this RP to the RP area.I'm on it.
This will become our OOC thread.
Post by: Laurentus on December 08, 2016, 04:51:00 AM
@Wintermoot, I've renamed this topic to [OOC] The Potato Who Would Be King, but it's displaying the original name on the main page of the forums, instead of the new one.
Post by: taulover on December 08, 2016, 04:55:55 AM
Hmm. Something strange is happening.See here for why:
@Wintermoot, I've renamed this topic to [OOC] The Potato Who Would Be King, but it's displaying the original name on the main page of the forums, instead of the new one.
http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=4092.msg87389#msg87389
So basically, posts have titles, which are not viewable by anyone, except on the main page, when it's the most recent post in a subforum. Because there weren't any new posts yet, it was still using the old title.
Are you moving all the other threads over too?Alright, we're live. @Gerrick, @Aragonn or @Sapphiron, I would appreciate it if you move all topics related this RP to the RP area.I'm on it.
This will become our OOC thread.
Post by: Aragonn on December 08, 2016, 05:00:38 AM
Just the ones I find relevant.Hmm. Something strange is happening.See here for why:
@Wintermoot, I've renamed this topic to [OOC] The Potato Who Would Be King, but it's displaying the original name on the main page of the forums, instead of the new one.
http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=4092.msg87389#msg87389
So basically, posts have titles, which are not viewable by anyone, except on the main page, when it's the most recent post in a subforum. Because there weren't any new posts yet, it was still using the old title.Are you moving all the other threads over too?Alright, we're live. @Gerrick, @Aragonn or @Sapphiron, I would appreciate it if you move all topics related this RP to the RP area.I'm on it.
This will become our OOC thread.
Post by: Laurentus on December 08, 2016, 05:08:53 AM
Post by: Aragonn on December 08, 2016, 05:13:08 AM
Please move all of them.Your wish is my command.
Post by: taulover on December 08, 2016, 05:47:14 AM
Post by: Laurentus on December 08, 2016, 05:56:29 AM
Post by: taulover on December 08, 2016, 05:57:26 AM
TPWWBK...Whoops, I apologize for my Heresy against the Botatoe... I mean, Potatoe. :P
Post by: Laurentus on December 08, 2016, 06:00:57 AM
I also considered Of Gods and Men: A Potato's Conquest.
My ability to come up with shitty names remains firmly intact.
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 08, 2016, 07:34:51 PM
Post by: Aragonn on December 08, 2016, 07:44:41 PM
Where are we going to put factbooks and such?In our NS nations' factbooks area?
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 08, 2016, 07:48:28 PM
I thought we were going to put them all on the forums here for easy access and such...Where are we going to put factbooks and such?In our NS nations' factbooks area?
I could be wrong though
Post by: Laurentus on December 08, 2016, 09:43:48 PM
Post by: taulover on December 08, 2016, 11:05:04 PM
Yeah, we agreed on that earlier in this thread.I thought we were going to put them all on the forums here for easy access and such...Where are we going to put factbooks and such?In our NS nations' factbooks area?
I could be wrong though
Post by: Barnes on December 09, 2016, 05:20:17 AM
From my understanding (after reading the maps thread and backstory and the first few pages of the ooc chat), we're working with late-1700s colonial-era tech. Also from my understanding, the roleplay is about the expanding influence of the Potato Papacy, as played out by actual NationStates states. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'll try to keep up with military campaigns should I be accepted, although it's not my strong point. (If we are using NS stats, it would encourage me to actually look at my nation more than occasionally!)
Post by: Colberius X on December 09, 2016, 05:23:11 AM
Post by: Aragonn on December 09, 2016, 05:26:03 AM
If it's not too late to join, I'd love to. This sounds quite fun :)
From my understanding (after reading the maps thread and backstory and the first few pages of the ooc chat), we're working with late-1700s colonial-era tech. Also from my understanding, the roleplay is about the expanding influence of the Potato Papacy, as played out by actual NationStates states. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'll try to keep up with military campaigns should I be accepted, although it's not my strong point. (If we are using NS stats, it would encourage me to actually look at my nation more than occasionally!)
We all founded nations at the same time specifically for this... We'd love to have you, but you'd have a severe handicap, founding a nation so long after the rest of us. Just a word of warning.Not only that, but our tech is anywhere from 1700 to 1899. Or before 1700 if you have a negative SA score.
Post by: Barnes on December 09, 2016, 05:27:33 AM
Post by: Aragonn on December 09, 2016, 05:30:30 AM
Post by: Barnes on December 09, 2016, 05:35:36 AM
Post by: Hydra on December 09, 2016, 05:36:21 AM
Am I allowed to see some example nations to see how much the stats difference would be, and if I'd be able to work around them?
https://www.nationstates.net/region=potatostates
Post by: Barnes on December 09, 2016, 05:51:30 AM
Post by: taulover on December 09, 2016, 06:13:00 AM
Do nations continue to gain population and stats when they CTE?They don't continue to, but the population and stats will be restored, so unless your nation CTE'd early on, you'd still have an unfair advantage.
Post by: Barnes on December 09, 2016, 06:16:39 AM
Post by: Barnes on December 09, 2016, 06:50:15 AM
Post by: taulover on December 09, 2016, 06:56:15 AM
Behold: Starchcouver (https://www.nationstates.net/nation=starchcouver), based off of a breakaway sect of the Church of the Holy Potato. Or something like that; I've yet to decide exact factbook-like details. The region is password-protected so I can't particularly join yet.Password is reaping
Post by: Laurentus on December 10, 2016, 02:32:13 AM
Post by: taulover on December 10, 2016, 03:30:45 AM
Post by: Crushita on December 10, 2016, 02:48:30 PM
Everything alright, @Crushita?Indeed! I think I'll have an introductory post today to start the RP!
Post by: taulover on December 11, 2016, 12:25:19 AM
Post by: Wintermoot on December 11, 2016, 06:08:56 PM
Post by: Lapoc on December 13, 2016, 04:34:10 AM
Post by: Aragonn on December 13, 2016, 04:54:12 AM
Well this certainly is a good time for me to have come across this RP. Since I would be in the same boat as Starchcouver, may I hop in?The more, the merrier.
Post by: Lapoc on December 13, 2016, 05:32:15 AM
It's finals week for me, so the next five days will be spotty as I juggle this and work, good excuse for getting a basis, eh?
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 11:40:46 AM
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 05:22:22 PM
Post by: Crushita on December 17, 2016, 06:06:00 PM
What an impressive start! Well done, Crush! Another potaoist should probably go next.I thought it was kinda terrible because I rushed it out but whatever you saaay
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 06:14:40 PM
Post by: Aragonn on December 17, 2016, 07:38:59 PM
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 07:43:40 PM
Post by: Aragonn on December 17, 2016, 08:02:08 PM
Aren't you team blue?The 'anti-potatoe' team? Yes.
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 08:23:31 PM
Post by: Aragonn on December 17, 2016, 08:32:16 PM
Post by: taulover on December 17, 2016, 09:04:13 PM
Post by: Gerrick on December 17, 2016, 09:58:14 PM
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 10:40:20 PM
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 10:41:56 PM
I should have time to put up a post. My nation is strongly non-papist, though (purple ftw!).It would have been really cool if the most advanced nation was also a religious nut job, though. :(
Post by: taulover on December 17, 2016, 10:51:29 PM
I'm dead last for my religiousness score though...I should have time to put up a post. My nation is strongly non-papist, though (purple ftw!).It would have been really cool if the most advanced nation was also a religious nut job, though. :(
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 10:55:16 PM
Post by: Aragonn on December 17, 2016, 11:00:42 PM
That can be handwaved away by seeing the Potato faith more as an interesting metaphor, with a lot of great things to offer to world politics or something. Like giving everyone common ground, and creating the possibility to spread knowledge with the support of the most powerful organization in the word.An organization that tells people perceived facts instead of actual truth. Yeah, I'd pass.
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 11:06:09 PM
Post by: taulover on December 17, 2016, 11:14:44 PM
First place: secularism, scientific advancement, intelligence, inclusiveness, integrity, political freedom
Last place: corruption, ignorance, primitiveness, religiousness, political apathy
Basically I don't really want to be on red, and my decisions in creating my nation reflect that. In any case, my imagined backstory for Potatoeist Science includes a strong Protestant (which I've developed as part of the reasoning for why we spell potatoe differently) and secular heritage. But at this point, my nation could go toward either side.
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 11:17:31 PM
Post by: taulover on December 17, 2016, 11:21:33 PM
With the exception of corruption and SA, my stats are fairly similar. And it's not for lack of trying with SA.Yes, and you firmly declared yourself for team blue. Simply put, it makes no sense for a nation like mine to be going DEUS VULT all over Peru.
Post by: Laurentus on December 17, 2016, 11:27:11 PM
Post by: taulover on December 17, 2016, 11:32:10 PM
I see. I'm definitely going to have some religious ideas though.My nation certainly has ideas on religion: they're nice, but keep them out of politics.
Post by: Laurentus on December 18, 2016, 02:26:14 PM
Anyway, not everyone explicitly chose a side, so I have placed almost everyone on team purple.
Post by: Cinciri on December 18, 2016, 04:25:47 PM
Post by: Laurentus on December 18, 2016, 04:53:28 PM
Post by: taulover on December 18, 2016, 10:54:38 PM
Alright, I've made a list of teams. We may have some trouble. Only four of all the nations have chosen a side. This will be a small war.I think putting everyone on either one of two sides or pure neutrality is a bit... reductionist, for the lack of a better term. There's only two nations staunchly in either camp, but that's just how complex reality is.
Anyway, not everyone explicitly chose a side, so I have placed almost everyone on team purple.
Post by: Laurentus on December 18, 2016, 11:43:31 PM
Perhaps I should use a blue-to-red spectrum?
Post by: taulover on December 19, 2016, 12:31:31 AM
And like complex reality, I'm attaching overly simplistic labels because it's convenient. :PEh, I think what we currently have is fine. It's just your "this will be a small war" analysis that irked me a bit. :)
Perhaps I should use a blue-to-red spectrum?
Post by: Gerrick on December 19, 2016, 12:32:39 AM
Post by: taulover on December 19, 2016, 12:39:44 AM
Really, though, I think there should be just two main sides (plus neutral). If it's a world war, countries will have to choose one side or the other as the conflict ultimately revolves around one primary issue (like our RL world wars). I'd think most would start as purple as they have no strong ties to the issue, but they'd eventually have to choose one side or the other depending on which side their ally or enemy is on. One need not be a Potato-ist to join the red team (or even really be a true ally to the Holy Potatoe Empire or Holy Potato State) -- they'd just need to have some interest that would lead them to that. The enemy of my enemy and all that (think Russia in the world wars). I can't see how there'd be a third side or spectrum -- you'd have to choose one or the other in the end. And you could probably change sides if needed (like Italy).Nations are usually not purely neutral, though. Examples include Francoist Spain, Sweden during WW2, the US before Pearl Harbor, etc. That's were the spectrum comes in.
Post by: Gerrick on December 19, 2016, 12:57:39 AM
Post by: Cinciri on December 20, 2016, 02:47:38 AM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 20, 2016, 04:17:12 AM
How religious is Latvichka? the capital city is a monastery that's how muchThere will be a golden potatoe in the monetary by the end of the crusade. We are the Holy Potatoe Empire. We will add your theological and philosophical distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile. We are Potatoist.
Post by: taulover on December 20, 2016, 07:48:44 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 20, 2016, 08:18:47 PM
Am I the only one ignoring Earth linguistic and racial conditions for my country?I just thought it'd be fun to sort of do a Japan-HRE mashup, honestly :D
Post by: Cinciri on December 20, 2016, 08:48:54 PM
Am I the only one ignoring Earth linguistic and racial conditions for my country?What you you mean by "Ignore Earth linguistic and racial conditions?"
Post by: taulover on December 21, 2016, 12:02:01 AM
As in, my demographic will probably not be speaking the same languages as the people who live in the same place on Earth do. (Though I think I'm going to make the country majority Asian, not sure.)Am I the only one ignoring Earth linguistic and racial conditions for my country?What you you mean by "Ignore Earth linguistic and racial conditions?"
Post by: Laurentus on December 21, 2016, 12:46:37 AM
Post by: HannahB on December 23, 2016, 12:02:09 AM
So I'm sorry if my first post in the IC thread is a little off, if you see anything wrong with it a little help would be appreciated :) , sorry guys, and thanks. ^-^
Post by: taulover on December 23, 2016, 03:12:46 AM
Post by: HannahB on December 23, 2016, 10:38:27 AM
I find it interesting that y'all are using real-life place names.
For me it's simply for context and because I am unimaginative xD the cities I mention in my post though don't exist though, the places do, which I thought was more fun... But it means I don't need to provide geographic context for all of them :)
Post by: Gerrick on December 23, 2016, 11:49:59 AM
I find it interesting that y'all are using real-life place names.Says the person who claims a percentage of their population follows traditional Chinese religion and calls the ocean to their east the Pacific in their factbook. :P
Post by: taulover on December 23, 2016, 05:25:32 PM
I was merely following the conventions set when others brought in the real-life Norse religion as the main non-Potatoeist belief. There simply is no other term to describe that form of worship. And who am I to name an international body of water (even if I do own most of it :D)?I find it interesting that y'all are using real-life place names.Says the person who claims a percentage of their population follows traditional Chinese religion and calls the ocean to their east the Pacific in their factbook. :P
Post by: Gattoartico on December 23, 2016, 06:58:10 PM
Post by: Laurentus on December 23, 2016, 08:52:25 PM
And why do you think that, Gatto?
Post by: Gattoartico on December 23, 2016, 09:45:21 PM
And why do you think that, Gatto?
I dunno, it would be the first time I've actually been in one.
Post by: Gerrick on December 23, 2016, 11:40:07 PM
I dunno, it would be the first time I've actually been in one.It'll be my first of this type as well, so don't worry.
Also, something I've realized is that with the ocean in between our continents and our current tech level, it'd take like a month for news to reach my country of anything that happens. So, yeah.
Post by: taulover on December 24, 2016, 12:16:27 AM
Also, something I've realized is that with the ocean in between our continents and our current tech level, it'd take like a month for news to reach my country of anything that happens. So, yeah.The communications delay is something all of us have to deal with, and it's part of what makes this tech level interesting.
Fortunately, my own nation has the telegraph. (Not that that helps much, considering that half of my territories aren't on the mainland and news still has to reach the nation's borders by courier.)
Post by: taulover on December 25, 2016, 05:18:52 AM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on December 25, 2016, 06:56:48 AM
So while I was fixing my map by overlaying a real-life one (that used the same basemap) over mine, I noticed that Robin's nation and mine likely don't share a long border. His southwestern border is formed by drawing a diagonal line straight from the western tip of Mongolia to my northeasternmost point. On the other hand, my northwestern border is supposed to be the "Greater Tibet" claimed by Tibetan exiles, and this region lies far to the south of that line.I'll gladly take Xinjiang for a longer border!!! :P
Post by: taulover on December 25, 2016, 06:58:22 AM
As would I, Robin, as would I. :DSo while I was fixing my map by overlaying a real-life one (that used the same basemap) over mine, I noticed that Robin's nation and mine likely don't share a long border. His southwestern border is formed by drawing a diagonal line straight from the western tip of Mongolia to my northeasternmost point. On the other hand, my northwestern border is supposed to be the "Greater Tibet" claimed by Tibetan exiles, and this region lies far to the south of that line.I'll gladly take Xinjiang for a longer border!!! :P
Post by: Gattoartico on December 25, 2016, 05:39:54 PM
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Post by: Laurentus on December 25, 2016, 10:44:12 PM
@Aragonn, my Norse brother to the North, we're going to have to discuss how my people branched off from yours. And then we can crush this filthy heathen dividing our territories.
Post by: taulover on December 25, 2016, 10:56:05 PM
@Aragonn, my Norse brother to the North, we're going to have to discuss how my people branched off from yours. And then we can crush this filthy heathen dividing our territories."No heathens, no heathens, you're the heathens." :P
Post by: Aragonn on December 26, 2016, 06:53:17 AM
You've only just started sensing it? :PHow about four tribes got banished from the North for some reason I can't think of at the moment and sailed South until they found the unclaimed wild lands of the African continent?
@Aragonn, my Norse brother to the North, we're going to have to discuss how my people branched off from yours. And then we can crush this filthy heathen dividing our territories.
I call dibs on sacking Rome. >:D
Post by: Laurentus on December 26, 2016, 02:34:55 PM
Post by: Crushita on December 26, 2016, 03:54:04 PM
You will never sack Rome! Our mighty defense forces... *realizes he has the worst defense forces*You've only just started sensing it? :P
@Aragonn, my Norse brother to the North, we're going to have to discuss how my people branched off from yours. And then we can crush this filthy heathen dividing our territories.
I call dibs on sacking Rome. >:D
Well. This is appropriate:
Post by: taulover on December 26, 2016, 05:03:00 PM
Wait a second, there's only one of them.
Post by: Gattoartico on December 26, 2016, 07:08:14 PM
You will never sack Rome! Our mighty defense forces... *realizes he has the worst defense forces*You've only just started sensing it? :P
@Aragonn, my Norse brother to the North, we're going to have to discuss how my people branched off from yours. And then we can crush this filthy heathen dividing our territories.
I call dibs on sacking Rome. >:D
Well. This is appropriate:
I approve of your choice in music.
I would help you but you are a filthy potatoist heretic. So sorry, no can do!
Post by: Aragonn on December 26, 2016, 07:22:28 PM
Post by: Aragonn on December 26, 2016, 07:24:05 PM
I like the sound of that. How religious is your country?Umm.... I'm apparently more religious than you at the moment.
Post by: Cinciri on December 26, 2016, 09:29:19 PM
My country has a completely fleshed out conlang that I designed for it, sort of a mix between Nordic and Mongolic languages. Although some of my population can speak Mongolian and the elite priests and noble family can speak other outsider languages. I am just writing English in the RP for ease of reading.As in, my demographic will probably not be speaking the same languages as the people who live in the same place on Earth do. (Though I think I'm going to make the country majority Asian, not sure.)Am I the only one ignoring Earth linguistic and racial conditions for my country?What you you mean by "Ignore Earth linguistic and racial conditions?"
Post by: Lapoc on December 27, 2016, 03:36:07 AM
Post by: Aragonn on January 04, 2017, 07:45:25 AM
Post by: Cinciri on January 04, 2017, 09:13:32 PM
Sorry for taking so long to make my first post, but I managed to throw something together for y'all.Your cuirasses seem similar to my nations shields in terms of their purpose
Post by: Aragonn on January 04, 2017, 09:16:42 PM
Except mine are worn and not held, freeing up the arms for other things like muskets and lances.Sorry for taking so long to make my first post, but I managed to throw something together for y'all.Your cuirasses seem similar to my nations shields in terms of their purpose
Post by: Cinciri on January 04, 2017, 09:25:18 PM
fair enough, but armor has little use for a horse based cavalry that specializes in speed, where we use spears or sabers and can wield both in tandem with shieldsExcept mine are worn and not held, freeing up the arms for other things like muskets and lances.Sorry for taking so long to make my first post, but I managed to throw something together for y'all.Your cuirasses seem similar to my nations shields in terms of their purpose
Post by: taulover on January 05, 2017, 01:07:39 AM
Sorry for taking so long to make my first post, but I managed to throw something together for y'all.I like how you used "Potatoeist."
Post by: Aragonn on January 05, 2017, 04:33:58 PM
If the armor were cast iron or big and cumbersome, then it would be very bad for cavalry. This cuirass is to be made of steel, a more lightweight and durable metal than iron, and shaped to better withstand a musket ball using thinner armor which will shed weight for the cavalry. The cuirass does not make them in any way invincible though. Just think of it as a bulletproof vest without pockets. It protects your center of mass but leaves the rest of your body exposed and vulnerable.fair enough, but armor has little use for a horse based cavalry that specializes in speed, where we use spears or sabers and can wield both in tandem with shieldsExcept mine are worn and not held, freeing up the arms for other things like muskets and lances.Sorry for taking so long to make my first post, but I managed to throw something together for y'all.Your cuirasses seem similar to my nations shields in terms of their purpose
I was unsure of which spelling to use. Did I make the wrong decision?Sorry for taking so long to make my first post, but I managed to throw something together for y'all.I like how you used "Potatoeist."
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 05, 2017, 05:06:23 PM
Congratulations!! You're not a heretic IRL!!! I always knew you'd come around, Aragonn!! :))I like how you used "Potatoeist."I was unsure of which spelling to use. Did I make the wrong decision?
Post by: Cinciri on January 05, 2017, 09:37:40 PM
We use layers of metal, bone, and horn. keeping it fairly light and still catching bullets.If the armor were cast iron or big and cumbersome, then it would be very bad for cavalry. This cuirass is to be made of steel, a more lightweight and durable metal than iron, and shaped to better withstand a musket ball using thinner armor which will shed weight for the cavalry. The cuirass does not make them in any way invincible though. Just think of it as a bulletproof vest without pockets. It protects your center of mass but leaves the rest of your body exposed and vulnerable.fair enough, but armor has little use for a horse based cavalry that specializes in speed, where we use spears or sabers and can wield both in tandem with shieldsExcept mine are worn and not held, freeing up the arms for other things like muskets and lances.Sorry for taking so long to make my first post, but I managed to throw something together for y'all.Your cuirasses seem similar to my nations shields in terms of their purpose
Post by: taulover on January 06, 2017, 01:14:52 AM
Potato -> PotatoistI like how you used "Potatoeist."I was unsure of which spelling to use. Did I make the wrong decision?
Potatoe -> Potatoeist
I think.
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 06, 2017, 01:19:10 AM
Potato -> PotatoeistFTFY ;)
Potatoe -> Potatoeist
Post by: Aragonn on January 06, 2017, 01:26:33 AM
Post by: taulover on January 06, 2017, 01:37:39 AM
The Potato Pope himself uses this convention in his writings!Potato -> PotatoeistFTFY ;)
Potatoe -> Potatoeist
It was time for a conclave, and every Potatoist power in the world would want to see their candidate made pope.And as we all know, His Eminence is infallible. :P
Post by: Crushita on January 06, 2017, 01:40:12 AM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 06, 2017, 05:20:37 AM
The Potato Pope himself uses this convention in his writings!Potato -> PotatoeistFTFY ;)
Potatoe -> PotatoeistIt was time for a conclave, and every Potatoist power in the world would want to see their candidate made pope.And as we all know, His Eminence is infallible. :P
Only when I sit on the Throne of St.Papus!And we also know that Spellcheck is not! Spellcheck has CLEARLY let down the Papacy, and must pay the price!! :P
Post by: Aragonn on January 16, 2017, 04:45:36 PM
Post by: Wintermoot on January 16, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
Post by: Gattoartico on January 16, 2017, 04:55:01 PM
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Post by: Aragonn on January 16, 2017, 05:00:10 PM
Post by: Aragonn on January 16, 2017, 05:08:46 PM
@Colberius X
@xXTheHydraXx
@Barnes
Post by: Gerrick on January 16, 2017, 05:25:39 PM
Post by: Aragonn on January 16, 2017, 05:37:10 PM
My main issue is the time/distance as I don't want to post "Hey we found out the Pope died" as that'd mean a whole month has passed IC (since that's about how long it'd take for news to cross the ocean) and that'd be forcing everyone into my timeframe. I suppose we could establish an IC to OOC relationship to fix that. Like one week OOC equals one month IC.We're already a month or more into it since news of the late Pope's death reached East Asia. Besides we need to progress the story.
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 16, 2017, 05:52:20 PM
To be fair tau and I both already have the telegraph...My main issue is the time/distance as I don't want to post "Hey we found out the Pope died" as that'd mean a whole month has passed IC (since that's about how long it'd take for news to cross the ocean) and that'd be forcing everyone into my timeframe. I suppose we could establish an IC to OOC relationship to fix that. Like one week OOC equals one month IC.We're already a month or more into it since news of the late Pope's death reached East Asia. Besides we need to progress the story.
Post by: Aragonn on January 16, 2017, 05:55:12 PM
That only counts for within your own nations. Rome isn't going to be sending telegraphs anytime soon. The message is going to be written and passed by courier until it hits your border where it can then be translated into a telegraph.To be fair tau and I both already have the telegraph...My main issue is the time/distance as I don't want to post "Hey we found out the Pope died" as that'd mean a whole month has passed IC (since that's about how long it'd take for news to cross the ocean) and that'd be forcing everyone into my timeframe. I suppose we could establish an IC to OOC relationship to fix that. Like one week OOC equals one month IC.We're already a month or more into it since news of the late Pope's death reached East Asia. Besides we need to progress the story.
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 16, 2017, 05:58:44 PM
We couldn't have a telegraph at our embassy to the Holy See? (I mean, it's technically our land :P )That only counts for within your own nations. Rome isn't going to be sending telegraphs anytime soon. The message is going to be written and passed by courier until it hits your border where it can then be translated into a telegraph.To be fair tau and I both already have the telegraph...My main issue is the time/distance as I don't want to post "Hey we found out the Pope died" as that'd mean a whole month has passed IC (since that's about how long it'd take for news to cross the ocean) and that'd be forcing everyone into my timeframe. I suppose we could establish an IC to OOC relationship to fix that. Like one week OOC equals one month IC.We're already a month or more into it since news of the late Pope's death reached East Asia. Besides we need to progress the story.
Post by: Aragonn on January 16, 2017, 06:01:13 PM
That is an incredibly long telegraph line to maintain stretching across foreign lands. You sure that's what you want?We couldn't have a telegraph at our embassy to the Holy See? (I mean, it's technically our land :P )That only counts for within your own nations. Rome isn't going to be sending telegraphs anytime soon. The message is going to be written and passed by courier until it hits your border where it can then be translated into a telegraph.To be fair tau and I both already have the telegraph...My main issue is the time/distance as I don't want to post "Hey we found out the Pope died" as that'd mean a whole month has passed IC (since that's about how long it'd take for news to cross the ocean) and that'd be forcing everyone into my timeframe. I suppose we could establish an IC to OOC relationship to fix that. Like one week OOC equals one month IC.We're already a month or more into it since news of the late Pope's death reached East Asia. Besides we need to progress the story.
Post by: taulover on January 16, 2017, 06:42:21 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 16, 2017, 06:51:13 PM
Just enjoying the role of devil's advocate >:DThat is an incredibly long telegraph line to maintain stretching across foreign lands. You sure that's what you want?We couldn't have a telegraph at our embassy to the Holy See? (I mean, it's technically our land :P )That only counts for within your own nations. Rome isn't going to be sending telegraphs anytime soon. The message is going to be written and passed by courier until it hits your border where it can then be translated into a telegraph.To be fair tau and I both already have the telegraph...My main issue is the time/distance as I don't want to post "Hey we found out the Pope died" as that'd mean a whole month has passed IC (since that's about how long it'd take for news to cross the ocean) and that'd be forcing everyone into my timeframe. I suppose we could establish an IC to OOC relationship to fix that. Like one week OOC equals one month IC.We're already a month or more into it since news of the late Pope's death reached East Asia. Besides we need to progress the story.
Post by: taulover on January 16, 2017, 06:52:56 PM
Just so you know, by your tech level (1834) it'd still be basically impossible for you to build a telegraph stretching that long.Just enjoying the role of devil's advocate >:DThat is an incredibly long telegraph line to maintain stretching across foreign lands. You sure that's what you want?We couldn't have a telegraph at our embassy to the Holy See? (I mean, it's technically our land :P )That only counts for within your own nations. Rome isn't going to be sending telegraphs anytime soon. The message is going to be written and passed by courier until it hits your border where it can then be translated into a telegraph.To be fair tau and I both already have the telegraph...My main issue is the time/distance as I don't want to post "Hey we found out the Pope died" as that'd mean a whole month has passed IC (since that's about how long it'd take for news to cross the ocean) and that'd be forcing everyone into my timeframe. I suppose we could establish an IC to OOC relationship to fix that. Like one week OOC equals one month IC.We're already a month or more into it since news of the late Pope's death reached East Asia. Besides we need to progress the story.
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 16, 2017, 06:54:27 PM
But speaking of tech levels like that, do we have tech stealing or dissemination across borders?
Post by: Aragonn on January 17, 2017, 01:24:33 AM
...it's still technically possible.
...it'd still be basically impossible for you to build a telegraph stretching that long.I don't know what part of this wasn't conveyed correctly.
But speaking of tech levels like that, do we have tech stealing or dissemination across borders?I don't see why not, but it needs to be done in a way that doesn't god mod. The receiving nation also needs to have the means of producing such technology on their own if they're going to steal it.
Post by: taulover on January 17, 2017, 02:13:09 AM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 17, 2017, 02:58:48 AM
For example, if a foreign nation builds high tech and exports it, I don't see a problem with a lower-tech nation being able to use it.I'm referring more to the German copycat Dreadnoughts and such during the 1900s and 1910s, and to a lesser degree other stuff, like the cotton gin and other stuff that just naturally disseminated without actual explicit trade. Other examples: Gatling gun, rifling, etc.
Post by: Laurentus on January 17, 2017, 04:09:29 AM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 17, 2017, 04:40:51 AM
Post by: Laurentus on January 17, 2017, 04:43:53 AM
Post by: Cinciri on January 17, 2017, 08:36:10 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 17, 2017, 08:47:03 PM
Post by: taulover on January 17, 2017, 10:17:25 PM
Post by: Laurentus on January 18, 2017, 02:45:39 PM
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Post by: taulover on January 20, 2017, 01:15:13 AM
I now have the highest military rating, and third highest SA score. I like my chances.NS hasn't given me a military-related issue for so long... Especially one I can answer properly without compromising my optimized Intelligence and SA scores...
Still, I think I've been doing pretty well, especially since I've managed to stay high in stats while still maintaining a state-controlled command economy and a high civil/political rights.
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 20, 2017, 02:07:21 AM
Civil rights, however, I need to work on...
Or do I? FEAR ME FILTHY PEASANTS WHO WANT RIGHTS!!!
Post by: taulover on January 20, 2017, 04:21:40 AM
Edit: I answer a few Defense-related issues, and I'm back in first! :D Though my Civil Rights have suffered slightly.
Post by: Laurentus on January 20, 2017, 06:39:46 PM
Post by: Aragonn on January 27, 2017, 08:19:51 AM
Post by: HannahB on January 27, 2017, 11:29:01 AM
Plus I am inexperienced and don't really want to be taking point
Post by: Laurentus on January 30, 2017, 12:01:02 AM
@HannahB, the only way to get experience is to make a fool of yourself. :P
Post by: Aragonn on January 30, 2017, 03:47:22 AM
@HannahB, the only way to get experience is to make a fool of yourself. :PThat's how I got good. ^-^
Post by: taulover on January 31, 2017, 05:27:46 PM
Post by: Aragonn on January 31, 2017, 06:05:48 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 31, 2017, 07:30:00 PM
It doesn't seem like Crush is in much of a position to be too active."The mantle of authority over the pious shall pass to they who feel called by the Starchy One to lead the faithful, as long as this universe is maintained by the Great Spud."
-Cultivation 14:4
Post by: Gattoartico on February 01, 2017, 12:53:55 AM
'Do you fear death? Let not the faithful mislead you, for their path is paved with the blood of your heathen ancestors. I promise nothing to you, I ask nothing of you. I give only what you truly feel you deserve.'
A Critique of Undeserved Faith
~Jaxten, Lord of the House of Blackheart, Monarch of the Second Court, Steward of the First Court, Chair of the Council of Devils.
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Post by: Aragonn on February 01, 2017, 08:08:03 AM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 01, 2017, 01:06:51 PM
I'm now third in defense forces! :PCrap! I've been prioritizing my economy over basically everything :P
Post by: Aragonn on February 01, 2017, 04:23:43 PM
You're still far ahead of me in SA, so don't sweat too much.I'm now third in defense forces! :PCrap! I've been prioritizing my economy over basically everything :P
Post by: taulover on February 01, 2017, 10:10:15 PM
Sorry, can't see y'all all the way here in the 1860s. :PYou're still far ahead of me in SA, so don't sweat too much.I'm now third in defense forces! :PCrap! I've been prioritizing my economy over basically everything :P
Post by: Aragonn on February 01, 2017, 10:13:56 PM
Tau has revolvers, repeating rifles, gatling guns, and ironclads. I'm scared. :-\Sorry, can't see y'all all the way here in the 1860s. :PYou're still far ahead of me in SA, so don't sweat too much.I'm now third in defense forces! :PCrap! I've been prioritizing my economy over basically everything :P
Post by: taulover on February 01, 2017, 10:19:24 PM
Post by: Aragonn on February 01, 2017, 10:29:04 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 02, 2017, 01:59:32 AM
To be fair, he can't really afford them all... his population pays all their puny incomes to the state in tax!! It's a shame, a true shame. Let the free market work for your people, cut regulation. If I know how to run a country, and believe me, I totally do, the key is that people need to be free of the chains of big government. I know, I know, you're all asking yourselves—how do you do this? I tell you, my friends, they love me, every last one of them. I even had a black friend once. Terrific. But that's how we're going to make this country great. We'll build a wall, too? Did I mention we'd do that? And ban those radical Tomatoist terrorists too, I tell you. So much, we'll be winning, everyone will be doing bigly great things, you'll be tired of winning. Our policies will be Potatoe Empire FIRST. My one and only question with every decision will be to put Potatoe Empire FIRST. Enough of these filthy people shipping our jobs overseas, and taking them at home. Thank you. I'll be announcing my next supreme court pick too—he's a bigly winner as well, good night. Good night.Tau has revolvers, repeating rifles, gatling guns, and ironclads. I'm scared. :-\Sorry, can't see y'all all the way here in the 1860s. :PYou're still far ahead of me in SA, so don't sweat too much.I'm now third in defense forces! :PCrap! I've been prioritizing my economy over basically everything :P
*eyeroll* This administration is going to make me insane...
Post by: Aragonn on February 02, 2017, 02:16:00 AM
Would you rather have a narcissist or a hypocritical crime family? I choose the narcissist because there's no room for crime in the government.To be fair, he can't really afford them all... his population pays all their puny incomes to the state in tax!! It's a shame, a true shame. Let the free market work for your people, cut regulation. If I know how to run a country, and believe me, I totally do, the key is that people need to be free of the chains of big government. I know, I know, you're all asking yourselves—how do you do this? I tell you, my friends, they love me, every last one of them. I even had a black friend once. Terrific. But that's how we're going to make this country great. We'll build a wall, too? Did I mention we'd do that? And ban those radical Tomatoist terrorists too, I tell you. So much, we'll be winning, everyone will be doing bigly great things, you'll be tired of winning. Our policies will be Potatoe Empire FIRST. My one and only question with every decision will be to put Potatoe Empire FIRST. Enough of these filthy people shipping our jobs overseas, and taking them at home. Thank you. I'll be announcing my next supreme court pick too—he's a bigly winner as well, good night. Good night.Tau has revolvers, repeating rifles, gatling guns, and ironclads. I'm scared. :-\Sorry, can't see y'all all the way here in the 1860s. :PYou're still far ahead of me in SA, so don't sweat too much.I'm now third in defense forces! :PCrap! I've been prioritizing my economy over basically everything :P
*eyeroll* This administration is going to make me insane...
Post by: Gattoartico on February 02, 2017, 02:28:57 AM
At least I can still crush the pretenders to the east. ^-^
But Aragonn.... The Four Wolves dictate violations in the eyes of the Empire. War has been endless by their decree.
The Old Lord knows the secrets of a thousand years, and how to influence the Four. Do you want war or help Aragonn?
(I'm kinda bored and am cannibalizing world building from my book)
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Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 02, 2017, 03:35:06 AM
Would you rather have a narcissist or a hypocritical crime family? I choose the narcissist because there's no room for crime in the government.Option 3: sacrifice all of Washington to resurrect FDR and the 73rd Congress :P
Or just vote in people from today who aren't corrupted entitled shitheads—if we have any...
Post by: Aragonn on February 02, 2017, 03:39:25 AM
Post by: taulover on February 02, 2017, 06:23:17 AM
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/01/512730065/south-dakotans-voted-for-tougher-ethics-laws-but-lawmakers-think-otherwise
Post by: Aragonn on February 02, 2017, 05:27:11 PM
Speaking of trying to stop corruption in government...And another fine example of why we need to wipe the government clean and start over. Keep the Constitution and Bill of Rights, but eliminate anything allowing the unfair treatment of racial minorities and women. We need new rules set by the people and new representatives who will actually listen to the people. Though the "listening to the people" part is probably an issue seeing as how a lot of people who get involved these days are emotionally fueled and just regurgitate what others tell them instead of sitting down and actually thinking things through.
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/01/512730065/south-dakotans-voted-for-tougher-ethics-laws-but-lawmakers-think-otherwise
I should be typing this stuff out elsewhere....
Post by: Cinciri on February 07, 2017, 11:12:46 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 08, 2017, 04:11:19 AM
Is someone else gonna post or should I go?Feel free! :D
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Post by: Gerrick on March 04, 2017, 11:46:56 AM
Starchcouver ceased to exist and needs to be refounded folks :)I believe that's @Barnes who I think is inactive right now.
Post by: Laurentus on March 05, 2017, 11:03:26 PM
Post by: Gerrick on March 06, 2017, 12:39:36 AM
I'm trying to think of what to call this generation's Laurentus. The best I've come up with was Archeaus Maximus Laurentus, but that sounds super pompous.How about Archeaus Minimus Laurentus? :D
Post by: BraveSirRobin on March 06, 2017, 02:01:47 AM
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Post by: Gattoartico on March 06, 2017, 04:09:26 AM
I thought you were gonna be my Viking brother to the south. :P
But aren't I your Viking brother to the East?
(Love your pfp btw)
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Post by: Aragonn on March 06, 2017, 04:12:06 AM
You are my Viking brother to the East. :D But Laurentus was going to be my other Viking brother.I thought you were gonna be my Viking brother to the south. :P
But aren't I your Viking brother to the East?
(Love your pfp btw)
(Love your pfp too)
Post by: Gattoartico on March 06, 2017, 04:14:26 AM
You are my Viking brother to the East. :D But Laurentus was going to be my other Viking brother.I thought you were gonna be my Viking brother to the south. :P
But aren't I your Viking brother to the East?
(Love your pfp btw)
(Love your pfp too)
Yay!
(I'm making it into a shirt in my Production graphics class)
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Post by: Aragonn on March 06, 2017, 04:17:09 AM
Is there any way you could make one for me too??You are my Viking brother to the East. :D But Laurentus was going to be my other Viking brother.I thought you were gonna be my Viking brother to the south. :P
But aren't I your Viking brother to the East?
(Love your pfp btw)
(Love your pfp too)
Yay!
(I'm making it into a shirt in my Production graphics class)
Post by: Gattoartico on March 06, 2017, 04:22:22 AM
QuoteIs there any way you could make one for me too??
I could indeed! I'd just need a way to send it to ya.
I'm doing the shirt in gold and silver on black. (At least I hope, it may be silver and some other shit since we might not have gold)
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Post by: Aragonn on March 06, 2017, 04:25:41 AM
Post by: Gattoartico on March 06, 2017, 04:27:37 AM
I can pay the expenses for shipping. You could probably fold up the shirt and place it into one of those USPS boxes with the flat rate if you don't have anything else to send it in.Coo, I'll get back to you on updates when they're finished!
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Post by: Laurentus on March 06, 2017, 07:24:27 AM
Oh, God, I am probably going to write a factbook about this.
Post by: Gattoartico on March 06, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
(Also Aragonn, what size shirt?)
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Post by: taulover on March 06, 2017, 04:01:31 PM
Hey guys, what's our limit on quasi-fantasy elements in this?We agreed on 18th-19th centuries as the tech system; fantasy elements don't even enter into this.
(Also Aragonn, what size shirt?)
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Post by: BraveSirRobin on March 06, 2017, 04:22:29 PM
I mean, you could have quasi-fantasy elements that don't actually work, but are powerful superstitious beliefs :PHey guys, what's our limit on quasi-fantasy elements in this?We agreed on 18th-19th centuries as the tech system; fantasy elements don't even enter into this.
(Also Aragonn, what size shirt?)
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Post by: Aragonn on March 06, 2017, 05:22:47 PM
Also Aragonn, what size shirt?Men's medium.
Post by: taulover on March 06, 2017, 05:33:12 PM
Post by: Gattoartico on March 06, 2017, 05:51:33 PM
Coo, I only asked since the structure and character list for mine is ripped directly from the Emelnÿa Eganÿama in a book I'm writing.I mean, you could have quasi-fantasy elements that don't actually work, but are powerful superstitious beliefs :PHey guys, what's our limit on quasi-fantasy elements in this?We agreed on 18th-19th centuries as the tech system; fantasy elements don't even enter into this.
(Also Aragonn, what size shirt?)
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Post by: Gattoartico on March 06, 2017, 05:51:59 PM
Awesome! ThanksAlso Aragonn, what size shirt?Men's medium.
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Post by: Wintermoot on March 06, 2017, 05:54:41 PM
Just a reminder that your RPs are not safe from my omnipresence!
Carry on. :P
Post by: Gattoartico on March 06, 2017, 06:07:35 PM
There goes my dream of a shirtless Cabinet (or at least a shirtless Aragonn!) ;)We are always safe from you Winty. All it takes are spicy memes.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170306/1dbc3060927da28bd490d8c20fdc3767.jpg)
Just a reminder that your RPs are not safe from my omnipresence!
Carry on. :P
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Post by: Wintermoot on March 06, 2017, 06:42:00 PM
Post by: BraveSirRobin on March 06, 2017, 06:43:10 PM
I find it very amusing that my tech level has advanced 50 years in about a weeks' in-game time.Same :P
Post by: Gattoartico on March 06, 2017, 10:06:42 PM
Nah. Prepare to be assimilated. xDOnly if I am being assimilated into the Imperial Truth
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