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Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 01, 2015, 08:02:15 AM
Hey there! While our activity and culture has grown by leaps and bounds since the winter, one area I've noticed that could still use some improvement is the roleplay area. It's an area that's largely been inactive for the past few months other than a few things that have recently been started, and I'm not sure we're delivering on the promises that we make in our recruitment telegram. If possible, I would like to revamp our roleplays and/or our systems behind them based on input from people who are experienced in roleplaying or are just interested in roleplaying and are having issues getting involved in our region.

As a first step, I wanted to open the floor to topics, opinions, and suggestions from anyone to establish what is wanted and needed. What's ailing roleplay in Wintreath, and how can we fix it and better promote roleplaying in our region? What are your thoughts?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Michi on May 01, 2015, 03:07:32 PM
I think it's just a common problem in story-driven RPs especially.  If they're RPs that were started quite some time ago, I imagine people have a hard time joining, especially if they're ones to where the activity stopped because either the members originally involved left, or whatever the reason happens to be.

Maybe perhaps do a switch around: Have the big proposed story driven ones in their own Subforum, and have the lighter ones found in TWWOW subforum out in the open?  That way people will always see less-investing ones they can take part in, and go off to visit the story ones.

That, or have a subforum for character signups/OOC in general, and mix the Story RPs and WWOW RPs together in the main area so that people don't have to move around to get to the RPs specifically.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Sapphiron on May 02, 2015, 02:56:35 PM
For a start, it would be good if Insectum's They fell from the sky (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=2116.0) is attached to a heading. :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 02, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
He never applied for a heading...:P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Sapphiron on May 02, 2015, 05:28:44 PM
Please? (◕‿◕)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 02, 2015, 05:52:56 PM
Please? (◕‿◕)

He would need to tell me what he wants it to be named and described as. :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Insectum on May 03, 2015, 12:42:49 AM
Please? (◕‿◕)

He would need to tell me what he wants it to be named and described as. :P

Name: The Pandor
Description: Wintreath Vs. The Pandorian Worlds, a powerful alien menace from beyond Time and Space!
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 04, 2015, 01:28:50 AM
Added!

Now, to get this party started, in addition to those that have already posted, I would like to invite these people that I feel are knowledgeable and skilled with roleplay to speak their thoughts if they'd like: @Weissreich, @Reon, @JustAGamer, @Aragonn, @Wuufu, and @Drexyl Nox.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 04, 2015, 02:38:06 AM
Ah.. An open discussion on roleplay.
First off, I would like to say I'm honored to be recognized (lovs to you, Wintermoot), and thank you all for what you do.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 04, 2015, 05:33:00 AM
Thanks for the recognition, Wintermoot.
Ah.. An open discussion on roleplay.
First off, I would like to say I'm honored to be recognized (lovs to you, Wintermoot), and thank you all for what you do.
Yeah, yeah. Enough of the brown-nosing and onward to business.
I think it's just a common problem in story-driven RPs especially.  If they're RPs that were started quite some time ago, I imagine people have a hard time joining, especially if they're ones to where the activity stopped because either the members originally involved left, or whatever the reason happens to be.

Maybe perhaps do a switch around: Have the big proposed story driven ones in their own Subforum, and have the lighter ones found in TWWOW subforum out in the open?  That way people will always see less-investing ones they can take part in, and go off to visit the story ones.

That, or have a subforum for character signups/OOC in general, and mix the Story RPs and WWOW RPs together in the main area so that people don't have to move around to get to the RPs specifically.
New Hyperion has a system where there are two spots on the forum for RPs, one for a main region-wide RP that anyone can join at any time and one for minor RPs which are just for fun. We're currently setting up our main region-wide RP, but we have a side RP going called Penguins vs Cookies, PvC for short (Read the RP posts if you want to know why it's named as such). The region-wide RP is always open and available for newcomers so long as they can figure a way to worm their way into it which isn't usually very hard.

In New Hyperion, I'm pretty much the equivalent of your Jarl of Culture :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 04, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Thanks for the recognition, Wintermoot.
Ah.. An open discussion on roleplay.
First off, I would like to say I'm honored to be recognized (lovs to you, Wintermoot), and thank you all for what you do.
Yeah, yeah. Enough of the brown-nosing and onward to business.
I think it's just a common problem in story-driven RPs especially.  If they're RPs that were started quite some time ago, I imagine people have a hard time joining, especially if they're ones to where the activity stopped because either the members originally involved left, or whatever the reason happens to be.

Maybe perhaps do a switch around: Have the big proposed story driven ones in their own Subforum, and have the lighter ones found in TWWOW subforum out in the open?  That way people will always see less-investing ones they can take part in, and go off to visit the story ones.

That, or have a subforum for character signups/OOC in general, and mix the Story RPs and WWOW RPs together in the main area so that people don't have to move around to get to the RPs specifically.
New Hyperion has a system where there are two spots on the forum for RPs, one for a main region-wide RP that anyone can join at any time and one for minor RPs which are just for fun. We're currently setting up our main region-wide RP, but we have a side RP going called Penguins vs Cookies, PvC for short (Read the RP posts if you want to know why it's named as such). The region-wide RP is always open and available for newcomers so long as they can figure a way to worm their way into it which isn't usually very hard.

In New Hyperion, I'm pretty much the equivalent of your Jarl of Culture :P
Mmmm... ok. SO how would we distinguish between major RPs and minor ones? Obviously, it is pointed out, but how do we indeed classify them?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Laurentus on May 04, 2015, 11:51:27 AM
In New Hyperion, we brand one RP as the main one, and indeed put in the most effort when planning and executing it to be as open, simple and all-inclusive to new people as possible, and we are even working on a payment model so that people's work in the region can be rewarded in a tangible, usable way by using your pay in the RP.

But although I can sometimes be a skilled story teller in RP (I like to think so anyway), @Colberius X and Aragonn are really the ones who know the most from New Hyperion who also happen to be citizens of Wintreath.

I think it might be wise for Aragonn, Colby and @taulover to chime in about the previous main Aura Hyperia RP as well.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wuufu on May 04, 2015, 12:57:48 PM
Having participated in a number of roleplays both outside and inside NS (and by outside, I'm referring mainly to Star Trek Simms where the entire focus of the community is on the RP), I can tell you the one thing that is difficult about any RP is keeping people interested.

There are a number of scenarios. For example, the GM could lose interest in maintaining the RP (which has happened to myself once or twice). Someone could have RL (or other NS duties) interfere, which means they can't participate, and in some RPs that means that it's difficult for them to get themselves back into the story. Or perhaps the story itself could be running a little loose, either it's too complicated, too dull, or just going too slowly. Some or all of these factors mean that specialised RPs find it difficult to keep going.

I do like the idea of having a main easily accessible RP where people can jump in or out of the RP easily. You could also introduce RP's that lack a main story and instead are set in a well defined area, where the main story comes from the interactions between characters, and those interactions form the story. In both these areas, the GM becomes less involved and is just one of the characters, RL/NS interference means you just bounce out and can reappear later without too much difficulty, and the story is what you make of it.

Anyway, that's my hastily written two cents :)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 04, 2015, 01:51:09 PM
Thank you, JustAGamer. In your case, you're newer to the region and have recently attempted to set up and promote a new roleplay, which gives you unique perspectives and thoughts about RP in the region. :P

I feel like even though RP has never been front and center in the region, it has always had potential and the region could become sort of a roleplay haven where we have lots of great character, social, and nation RPs. The latter has particularly vexed us since our founding, because people in the region on-site have indicated interest in doing one before, but we've never had anyone with the knowledge to put one together and to promote RPs in general to the region. I think we have a particularly opportunity because unlike other regions we can develop our website and forums to better conduct roleplays...the problem is, I don't really know what developments would encourage that. I'm not experienced in RP, and it's never been a regional strength.

I would love to get more RPs of different types going, to better promote them in the region, and to promote them in our recruitment messages and our FA network...it's just a matter of getting there. But I guess that's my vision for it overall. I just don't know how to get there...so I appreciate everyone's thoughts and discussions. :)


Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 04, 2015, 02:01:42 PM
Having participated in a number of roleplays both outside and inside NS (and by outside, I'm referring mainly to Star Trek Simms where the entire focus of the community is on the RP), I can tell you the one thing that is difficult about any RP is keeping people interested.

There are a number of scenarios. For example, the GM could lose interest in maintaining the RP (which has happened to myself once or twice). Someone could have RL (or other NS duties) interfere, which means they can't participate, and in some RPs that means that it's difficult for them to get themselves back into the story. Or perhaps the story itself could be running a little loose, either it's too complicated, too dull, or just going too slowly. Some or all of these factors mean that specialised RPs find it difficult to keep going.

I do like the idea of having a main easily accessible RP where people can jump in or out of the RP easily. You could also introduce RP's that lack a main story and instead are set in a well defined area, where the main story comes from the interactions between characters, and those interactions form the story. In both these areas, the GM becomes less involved and is just one of the characters, RL/NS interference means you just bounce out and can reappear later without too much difficulty, and the story is what you make of it.

Anyway, that's my hastily written two cents :)
Well, you've gotten a lot with those two cents. I'm gonna have to call you an economic genius. :P

Jokes aside, the New Hyperion main RP has its own section of the forum with a few subforums dedicated soley to specific IC and OOC threads like factbooks, story threads, and OOC discussion. We have a tendency to create an entire nation to use but also have main characters to use like politicians, generals, etc., the big important figures (E.g. the Aesir Empire has a Jarl, three Kommanders, and nine Chieftains, thirteen important figures at the least. In PvC, the aforementioned RP, I've also thrown in a lead weapons engineer, Akaz Sveigdir.). And going off of what Wuufu (awesome avatar by the way) said, we don't use a defined story. We make the story by interacting with one another. With there being such a loose story, we do have the potential to jump in at any point, but it also can be that you get so involved in what's going on that you can't just jump out. This is why we have a special group on our forum called the Roleplayers Guild that one has to apply to enter into if they want to RP on our forum. In the application, we make it known that activity and participation are requirements for reoleplaying and if these requirements cannot be met, don't even bother applying.

As a promotion to our RPs, we kinda make them the star of the show in the region. Sure, there's the Body Republic, WA Comm, Inquisition, Media, etc, but none of those are on par with the RPs. When we have the main RP going, we make sure everyone knows about it and that they know they are free and welcome to join at anytime. We do have rules set in place to make it fair for everyone but still enjoyable.

If you need further explanation, please don't hesitate to ask. I'm kinda writing this last part in a rush, so I may have left out some key things.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 04, 2015, 06:00:36 PM
Sounds kind of like the idea I was working on with the House systems - @Wintermoot I still need access to various posts/need them moved out of a restricted area so I can double check what I'd already posted and what still required transferring to the forums :)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Colberius X on May 04, 2015, 08:56:44 PM
Aura Hyperia struggled with RPs.  Its main RP, which was incredibly active at one point, had died off not long before I got there.  Right in the middle of the action, too, so I never got to find out how things turned out.  :P

Mara tried starting a new, point-based RP a couple months after I arrived.  The Imperial Council (which I was not yet a part of) wanted to incorporate a payment system to be at the core of the RP, where doing work in the region translated to RP advancements.  However, the system was complicated, hard to organize, and tended to favor certain members.  For example, my Inquisitor's salary gave me 70 credits a week, with an additional 15 for every case I closed; that's not including my Captain's pay in the Hyperian Guard.  In comparison, Taulover's Recruitment Officer's salary was somewhere around 25 credits, while IC members made closer to 100 credits.  Ironically, out of all Imperial Service departments, the RPers Guild had the lowest salary.  Needless to say, this system barely lasted a month before we all were fed up with it; even the people it favored wanted to scrap it.

The third attempt at a regional RP was a combination of the last two, and was quite successful until the region was wrecked.  @Aragonn can tell you all about the fun we were about to have when it ended.  It was very story driven, allowing new members to arise from either of two balanced factions or just start fresh.  Those who arose from a faction could start off larger and more advanced, but had to maintain similarities with their parent faction.  Those starting fresh had to be smaller and less advanced, but had no such cultural restrictions.  The payment system was reimplemented, but the weekly salaries now had a relatively small impact on RP advancement. Most of your civilization's money came from how many sectors of space you controlled, and so encouraged attempts at expansion.  Every time you added a character, you would recieve a set amount of credits, but from then on you had to pay your characters (if they worked for the gov't) from your civilization's coffers; this encouraged individual character development without limiting the number of characters someone could introduce.  This RP was complex without being overcomplicated, and had great potential to be a success.

Various people attempted to start smaller RPs during my time there, but none of them got off the ground. One of them didn't get enough interest, but at least one other had the creator CTE before it got going.  It's a problem that will persist in any region.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 04, 2015, 09:17:53 PM
@Aragonn can tell you all about the fun we were about to have when it ended.
Oh yes, I remember quite well. We were just getting a major space battle going when the plug got pulled...

I'm still waiting for that response, Colby. :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 05, 2015, 01:15:04 AM
Sounds kind of like the idea I was working on with the House systems - @Wintermoot I still need access to various posts/need them moved out of a restricted area so I can double check what I'd already posted and what still required transferring to the forums :)

@Weissreich - http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=1223.0 (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=1223.0)

@Everyone else - So what would it take for Wintreath to establish a main nation-RP that was easy for people to get into?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 05, 2015, 11:43:29 AM
Sounds kind of like the idea I was working on with the House systems - @Wintermoot I still need access to various posts/need them moved out of a restricted area so I can double check what I'd already posted and what still required transferring to the forums :)
@Weissreich - http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=1223.0 (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=1223.0)

@Everyone else - So what would it take for Wintreath to establish a main nation-RP that was easy for people to get into?

Excellent! Now, to make a very brief post on the topic of what I'd begun before my inactivity :)

Wintermoot made a post about the "Wonderful World of Wintreath", which if I'm reading the OP right would be a region-as-a-nation based role-play where citizens take on the positions of citizens/whatever within Wintreath itself, travelling through the setting to different areas etc and interacting not only with NPCs but other players.

That, roughly, was the idea behind a player-driven roleplay I was putting together that would - had it come together in the way I hoped for - tie in incredibly neatly with the House system. The basic idea behind it is as follows (to save you following that link - text in red is stuff I've added to the post):
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In terms of RP potential, my Establishment of Setting will give rise to a House-based RP in which details are still being fleshed out but I've got an innovative system planned. Hopefully, the titles here will add elevation in class terms into the mix and keep things lively - my idea for development of the 'Titled Gentry' idea would be a system by which the head of an RP can choose an honourific by which an individual would be recognised from then-on in that RP for whatever contribution IC they made. The 'Titled Gentry' would come as an addition to the House system's titling, with no benefits beyond the right to the Title itself.

On from there:
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What I'm looking at is a tie-in to the House system for this hypothetical RP. The game administrator can grant titles of differing RP significance that also carry over to the House system elsewhere in Wintreath, but serve no other purpose than generating interest and hopefully bringing people into the RP itself. These ranks exist separately from the Noble Titles and the Royal Titles and are just called Gentry Titles or something, and can be announced separately if that prevents confusion.

The value is entirely in the RP and the way it'll hopefully boost cultural activity. We need that more than we need a simple set of rules and this when explained properly isn't overly complicated. By having some kind of motivator in-RP that ties into things like forum accounts and off-site publications (if the idea for the Titles works out) I'm hoping people will be not only more invested in the RP itself but be interested from the moment they join the region.

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The House RP is going to be a deeply involved system based off of the Establishment of Setting, as many of you know. It's set in a nation called Wintreath, in which most of the cities and locations draw inspiration from either my own head (these are the weird ones), people's NS nations or the O,TPYGIW thread.

Now, the ideas I've got for this are pretty complicated so I'll lay out the basics here. First up, you don't control one character, or a city, or a nation. You roleplay three individuals. Yes, three. The rules for this are simple: your characters can be whoever you want, within reason (so no Kings or Dukes unless that's your title). Your characters can be in a House, or two of them can not be and one is, but that House is the House you're in OOC. If you're not in a House, you ask the Patriarch of a House you want to be in if that's alright, and then the same rules apply.

Following me so far? For each post you make, you can either: update just one character's plotline, or update all of them, or update two. The choice is yours. Characters don't have to be related to each other, although I'd personally recommend it. They don't have to 'start' in the same city, or even meet each other.

As you may be gathering, a lot of the interaction for this will be player-driven, which I'm really hoping is going to encourage people's involvement. By giving people three characters, there's more incentive to play as you're more in control of what happens. GM posts will occur every few days to nudge things along in the direction I have ideas for.

So, thoughts on that part of this post?

Anyway, moving onwards. The start point will be the 'golden age' of Wintreath, but from there things start to go downhill. I'm going to kill off several NPC important government ministers and the like over the course of the first week and introduce turmoil enough to provide the players with things to do. Cities with player characters will suffer random events the Players are encouraged to get involved with. So :)

Regarding RP titles: these are things I as GM will hand out in recognition for actions taken by characters. They'd only apply to singular characters and worthiness would be determined by myself in regards to the plot-line I'm angling for, but I'm thinking perhaps the title could then be added to that player in their house, or something along those lines. This is really up for discussion as to whether it should be game-only titles or game-and-House titles.
As a brief example of the three-character setup, I might have my primary updating character as Klause Meindhert, Duke of Wintreath and Member of the Overhusen. Beyond that, my secondary character might be Elric Santofeth Meindhert, a minor cousin in the family who runs an armoury business in Bain, whilst the third is of no relation and lives in a city on the eastern coast and likely will never meet either of my other two characters should I not wish for it.


For those of you interested in the rough locations the House RP would draw from, you can find a few examples in this (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=321.0) thread. The Establishment of Setting thread (found here (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=1057.0)) is the rough basis and history behind what I'll be doing.

Thoughts and feedback more than welcome! Below I've spoilered the hand-drawn map (incomplete) I was in the process of completing for this RP, so take a look. A larger version can be viewed here (http://i.imgur.com/Doubtka.jpg).

Spoiler
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDoubtka.jpg&hash=78a644f4b8f4a13570b0cd894547267b)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Laurentus on May 05, 2015, 12:38:25 PM
Weissreich's idea sounds really good, but how would NPC interaction with PCs take place?

Also, generally, from what I've experienced, having the IC actions result in anything IRL just isn't a good idea. I like the House idea though.

Also, will this have a medieval setting? Because if the answer is yes, I will personally quash any dissenting voices preventing this RP from happening, even if I have to dethrone Wintermoot. ;)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 05, 2015, 01:08:19 PM
Personally, this is one of the best ideas for a regional RP I've ever heard. As Laurentus pointed out, translating IC actions into IRL stuff is just bad for business, but everything else is good.

Also, Elder Scrolls Online much? :P I'm just messing with ya ;)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 05, 2015, 01:11:59 PM
Weissreich's idea sounds really good, but how would NPC interaction with PCs take place?

Also, generally, from what I've experienced, having the IC actions result in anything IRL just isn't a good idea. I like the House idea though.

Also, will this have a medieval setting? Because if the answer is yes, I will personally quash any dissenting voices preventing this RP from happening, even if I have to dethrone Wintermoot. ;)
1) However the player writing the interaction damn well pleases. The idea behind this is that it's player-driven more than GM-driven, allowing a huge amount of freedom within the scope of the plot that moves along every couple of days. In a region as 'large' as Wintreath, things take time and to try and control every player's action across such a 'vast' area would be frankly impossible anyway. Your characters exist within the context of the RP's plot that happens around you, with the idea being you're reacting to it and through your reactions influencing the future of the story in subtle ways.

2) That's the point - the titles don't mean jack shit, they're just there for show. They mean nothing IRL apart from stating "LOOK! I'M INVOLVED IN THE REGIONAL RP AND I DUN GOOD!" Our current house system created the Nobility, which have actual benefits, but the RP system would expand on this. If you read Decree 005, you'll see that the title for Knight exists without providing any benefit beyond recognition by a specific department of the government, and that's the sort of thing that the House RP would add to by creating titles that recognise an achievement in-game which can be displayed across the region to draw more people in. They mean little to nothing outside of the RP system, just serve as an incitement.

To make it clear, if you gain a Nobility title, as I and Amalya have done, you are allowed to use that title in the RP as well to elevate ONE character into the upper echelons of Wintrean society :)

3) It's mostly medieval, yes. I'd highly recommend reading through the Oh, The Places You'll Go... thread that's linked in my post to see the kind of setting I'm building, as that has various cities, locations and other interesting things that will be included in the setting itself. If you read the linked Establishment of Setting thread, it has a rough timeline and a description of the technology base. TL;DR - yes but steampunk.

E: @Aragonn - there is a tiny amount of influence from TES but again, read the Establishment of Setting thread. The differences become quite apparent immediately, and if you need examples of the sort of places Wintreath is home to just read the O,TPYGIW thread over in the Wintreath Chronicles forum :)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 05, 2015, 04:03:24 PM
As a quick addition/bump to keep the interest flowing - anyone who'd like to work with me on creating the RP I've outlined again please don't hesitate to let me know by mentioning me here. I'll set up a PM in the near future to collaborate, or perhaps see with Mootles about securing a private forum to do the groundwork before going public :)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 05, 2015, 04:06:03 PM
@Weissreich I'll work with you on it as I'm fascinated by the different locations and technologies. (Being an engineer, I love technology)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Insectum on May 06, 2015, 05:56:08 PM
my only fear with a region-wide RP, or any RP for that matter, is that I'll be forced to conform to tech standards, I don't use. The gearworks is interesting, and there are some small ways Warhaven could contribute, but largely, the gearworks is a major step backwards. Likewise, with insectum, they won't use technology as it is normally understood, ever. They will remain a purely biological/organic society, so they can't use gearworks.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 06, 2015, 06:22:43 PM
A main region-wide RP wouldn't be a mandatory RP...roleplayers could still pick and choose the RPs they want to do and imagine the Wintreath they want for one one, but I think it's been established that the 'official' Wintreath theme is fantasy with steampunk elements. In fact, if there were demand for it, there's no reason that we couldn't have multiple region-wide RPs...though I would suggest starting with one, of course. :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 06, 2015, 06:36:15 PM
Well, if you wanna get down into the science of it all, with each gear used, there will be a loss of power within the device meaning that the gyro would have to produce that much more energy for the whole thing to work. Then there's the concept of the gyro itself. I don't see how a gyro can keep a mechanism running indefinitely which makes it kinda magical to me.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 06, 2015, 06:54:23 PM
The science side of things isn't supposed to make sense - it's just supposed to serve as a quasi-plausible alternative to our science that can produce everything our science and technology can manage and then some more things. Don't look at it too deeply.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Reon on May 06, 2015, 06:55:08 PM
Steampunk in general kind of just means magic with a brand of certain characteristics... Steam power is so amazingly suboptimal that it could never continuously function or work on a societal scale...
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 06, 2015, 07:00:39 PM
Guys, if anyone can figure out the science side of things with this it's Aragonn...he's very impressive in this area. :)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 06, 2015, 07:08:50 PM
It's not that I doubt him, it's more that when I make the next set of additions to gearwork principle it'll stop making any sort of sense at all. I mean, really now - self-supplying gearwork rifles? How does that even work?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 06, 2015, 08:09:53 PM
Well, see, if you made the rifle using a combination of springs and gears as well as making it semiautomatic...
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Insectum on May 07, 2015, 03:23:42 PM
Alternatively, I could add another region to The Bureaucracy, that's all it is anyway, a collective of mini-nation regions hap-hazardly joined into a regular functioning nation.

As for my insects, well, there's always an oddball in every group, now isn't there? Could be a sort of competition between techs, Weissreich's Gearworks, versus my Bio-Sciences. There must be a yin to his yang somewhere, or the longevity of the story will be shortened.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 07, 2015, 03:34:27 PM
*shrugs*

If you're roleplaying in the House RP (or whatever name I finally settle on), you'll be using gearwork. If you're role-playing in anything else you're free to use whatever you wish. This is an RP I've been building from the ground up, so I'm sorry to say bio-science literally doesn't fit in with the setting in the slightest :/
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 07, 2015, 05:03:32 PM
If Insectum doesn't wish to take part in this RP, then Insectum shouldn't have to.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 07, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
If Insectum doesn't wish to take part in this RP, then Insectum shouldn't have to.
Where did anyone say otherwise?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 07, 2015, 06:50:55 PM
It sounds like things are coming along great. Since we've got the concept of a RP down, perhaps its more deserving of its own topic at this point. ^.^

I would still like to discuss how we can best promote RPs to the region-at-large, any improvements to the system of creating/hosting RPs that are needed, and the viability of having a nation-RP in Wintreath.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 07, 2015, 07:40:45 PM
If Insectum doesn't wish to take part in this RP, then Insectum shouldn't have to.
Where did anyone say otherwise?
I thought I remembered Wintermoot saying it in an earlier post, but instead he said quite the opposite... My apologies.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 07, 2015, 09:02:49 PM
All I see is much back and forth of ideas... I like it.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 08, 2015, 02:47:30 PM
One thing I would ask of y'all before I make a thread for the House RP: what do you think it should be named? I've got a few ideas but nothing jumps out at me yet beyond the first one listed.

- The Hidden War
- A Contest of Shadows
- The Veiled Game
- [SUGGEST]
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Govindia on May 08, 2015, 02:52:42 PM
Hey there! While our activity and culture has grown by leaps and bounds since the winter, one area I've noticed that could still use some improvement is the roleplay area. It's an area that's largely been inactive for the past few months other than a few things that have recently been started, and I'm not sure we're delivering on the promises that we make in our recruitment telegram. If possible, I would like to revamp our roleplays and/or our systems behind them based on input from people who are experienced in roleplaying or are just interested in roleplaying and are having issues getting involved in our region.

As a first step, I wanted to open the floor to topics, opinions, and suggestions from anyone to establish what is wanted and needed. What's ailing roleplay in Wintreath, and how can we fix it and better promote roleplaying in our region? What are your thoughts?

I need someone to help me with nation based RP, namely on the geographic side of things.  Who's good with maps?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 08, 2015, 02:56:03 PM
You mean the nation based RP that you've been saying you're going to do for 15 months now? :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 08, 2015, 03:16:03 PM
One thing I would ask of y'all before I make a thread for the House RP: what do you think it should be named? I've got a few ideas but nothing jumps out at me yet beyond the first one listed.

- The Hidden War
- A Contest of Shadows
- The Veiled Game
- [SUGGEST]
Well, I say it depends on how you want this RP to go. By your ideas, it kinda sounds like you want this to be a game of spy vs spy.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 08, 2015, 03:17:32 PM
One thing I would ask of y'all before I make a thread for the House RP: what do you think it should be named? I've got a few ideas but nothing jumps out at me yet beyond the first one listed.

- The Hidden War
- A Contest of Shadows
- The Veiled Game
- [SUGGEST]
Well, I say it depends on how you want this RP to go. By your ideas, it kinda sounds like you want this to be a game of spy vs spy.
:p

Nope - the idea is that there'll be a conflict that's going on in the background that'll take some time to notice, but there will be a lot of espionage style stuff as well as straight out combat or diplomacy/politics etc. It's covering an entire nation, this thing gon' be wild.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 08, 2015, 03:41:55 PM
Civil War?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 08, 2015, 03:44:30 PM
Civil War?
The idea isn't for an all-out civil war, just a backdrop of conflict and intrigue against which the RP is set. What happens from thereon-in is shaped by what the Players do, not what I decide.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 08, 2015, 03:55:35 PM
I was just thinking that you don't really ever get large battles unless it's an official war. If it's not an official war, it's usually a bunch of small skirmishes.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Govindia on May 08, 2015, 05:42:13 PM
You mean the nation based RP that you've been saying you're going to do for 15 months now? :P

Yes.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 08, 2015, 06:01:36 PM
I was just thinking that you don't really ever get large battles unless it's an official war. If it's not an official war, it's usually a bunch of small skirmishes.
That's kind of how it'd go down here - there'd be conflicts going on in the background in various cities, originating in Frostlake, that the players could find themselves stuck in. We'll see how it goes :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Colberius X on May 08, 2015, 06:13:16 PM
It's covering an entire nation, this thing gon' be wild.
You think a nation is wild? Try a galaxy.  :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 08, 2015, 06:23:17 PM
It's covering an entire nation, this thing gon' be wild.
You think a nation is wild? Try a galaxy.  :P
*shrugs*
Ain't no galaxy like Wintreath.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 08, 2015, 06:40:10 PM
It's covering an entire nation, this thing gon' be wild.
You think a nation is wild? Try a galaxy.  :P
*shrugs*
Ain't no galaxy like Wintreath.
You're right. The galaxy is wilder. :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Laurentus on May 08, 2015, 10:15:58 PM
To get back to the topic of maps, why not just use an online random map generator for RPs? Some of these have nifty parameters for terrain type, elevation, climate, plant growth etc.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 09, 2015, 02:25:29 AM
It's covering an entire nation, this thing gon' be wild.
You think a nation is wild? Try a galaxy.  :P
*shrugs*
Ain't no galaxy like Wintreath.
You're right. The galaxy is wilder. :P
Y'ain't seen nothing yet.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 09, 2015, 03:20:04 AM
It's covering an entire nation, this thing gon' be wild.
You think a nation is wild? Try a galaxy.  :P
*shrugs*
Ain't no galaxy like Wintreath.
You're right. The galaxy is wilder. :P
Y'ain't seen nothing yet.
How can you say that when you don't know what we've seen?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 09, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
I know more than you could possibly imagine ;)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Insectum on May 09, 2015, 04:44:31 PM
Now that, I sincerely doubt.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 09, 2015, 05:15:58 PM
Now that, I sincerely doubt.
Everyone's entitled to doubt :)

Anyways, so far Aragonn has made his interest known, is there anyone else who'd like to partake?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Laurentus on May 09, 2015, 05:20:57 PM
I'd like to, but I don't know what I could actually contribute.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 09, 2015, 06:24:02 PM
I would also like to participate
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Reon on May 09, 2015, 06:25:52 PM
As would I... Though I may be in laurentus' boat...
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 09, 2015, 08:58:49 PM
Mostly it'll be things like adding fluff - if you're a member or m/patriarch of a House I'll need to talk to you anyway to get some details about your Family city etc. I'll need people to help with general descriptions of cities, locations, important people, the science, the society, the history etc etc.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Laurentus on May 09, 2015, 09:01:43 PM
Ah. Back story. Sure thing, I can do that.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 09, 2015, 09:06:34 PM
Ah. Back story. Sure thing, I can do that.
Pretty much - it's not so much backstory as it is back-history; we'll be creating 'flavour' for regions within Wintreath, specific cities, people and parties, as well as fluffing out what being a Wintrean actually means. I'm asking for input on this stuff because whilst I have constructed most of it from scratch I'd like other people's inputs for the final layer of detailing :)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 09, 2015, 11:53:08 PM
Backstories on the individual countries of Winreath?... or Am I missing something here?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 09, 2015, 11:55:16 PM
Backstories on the individual countries of Winreath?... or Am I missing something here?
Plus, I support this. People looking to enter this major RP will not only experience what it means to be in a community, but it will help them enjoy all the attention newcomers (or veterans) deserve and *hopefully* appreciate. Two birds with one stone. NICE!
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 10, 2015, 01:21:25 AM
I'll need people to help with general descriptions of cities, locations, important people, the science, the society, the history etc etc.
Did someone say science? :D

Yeah, I can help with those.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 10, 2015, 02:28:22 AM
Backstories on the individual countries of Winreath?... or Am I missing something here?
Not so much every citizen's nation, no - more the geographical regions within the nation of Wintreath and the different ways culture has formed in each. The idea is that each House has a Familial Residence in its origin city and that city reflects what the members of that House want it to be. Where your city is (what 'Ride') semi depends on how the city ends up looking like, so as to fit the city into an appropriate Ride :)

It's quite complex, but I hope people will see why I was referring to this as the 'House RP' in the initial planning stage; it's quite involved with and interdependent on the Houses as an effort to build regional culture back when I was first putting this together. The rough aim is to create a setting detailed and interesting enough to be believable whilst diverse and involving enough to attract people from all types of RP background whilst creating Familial bonds that would hopefully grow into friendship (the culture thing again).

@Aragonn - I'm happy to have you aboard, but just to say this is fantasy more than realistic :p your thoughts on how to make it look real would be appreciated though!

@Pengu - this is just a reminder to do your piece for Cain :)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 10, 2015, 04:09:52 AM
Dude, I already have a design in mind for that rifle you previously mentioned. :P But yeah, I understand that this will be more fantasy than reality. I'm actually looking forward to creating the science.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 10, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
Backstories on the individual countries of Winreath?... or Am I missing something here?
Not so much every citizen's nation, no - more the geographical regions within the nation of Wintreath and the different ways culture has formed in each. The idea is that each House has a Familial Residence in its origin city and that city reflects what the members of that House want it to be. Where your city is (what 'Ride') semi depends on how the city ends up looking like, so as to fit the city into an appropriate Ride :)

It's quite complex, but I hope people will see why I was referring to this as the 'House RP' in the initial planning stage; it's quite involved with and interdependent on the Houses as an effort to build regional culture back when I was first putting this together. The rough aim is to create a setting detailed and interesting enough to be believable whilst diverse and involving enough to attract people from all types of RP background whilst creating Familial bonds that would hopefully grow into friendship (the culture thing again).

@Aragonn - I'm happy to have you aboard, but just to say this is fantasy more than realistic :p your thoughts on how to make it look real would be appreciated though!

@Pengu - this is just a reminder to do your piece for Cain :)

That would mean a lot in terms of organization, mapping of Winreath, putting up with a major plot (with some or no side plot lines). It might just do the trick, when it comes to the participants, but it might take (don't quote me on this) weeks or preparation, such as applications, coming up with the ideal plot (and subplots) :P (major fan of those), mapping, etc. etc. Would the people in this chat be involved in doing such actions?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 10, 2015, 01:59:05 PM
There is in fact a hand-drawn map I was working on that contains a lot of the locations already - I need to grab it from my old house or download a digitised version of it to continue making alterations but the mapping won't be an issue. The plot/subplots will be, and whilst I've ideas for all sorts of things it'll be great to have other people on board adding to it and making things more diverse :)

I'll get things moving :)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 10, 2015, 02:37:16 PM
There is in fact a hand-drawn map I was working on that contains a lot of the locations already - I need to grab it from my old house or download a digitised version of it to continue making alterations but the mapping won't be an issue. The plot/subplots will be, and whilst I've ideas for all sorts of things it'll be great to have other people on board adding to it and making things more diverse :)

I'll get things moving :)

Nice. I have been thinking about some ideas already. Might be handy to collaborate on what we should add...
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Reon on May 10, 2015, 04:27:02 PM
Man, Weiss... You continually and consistently impress me.
I would like to an will attempt to add stuff to the thing later but... You know me... Not known for my dependability on this kind of task.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 10, 2015, 05:03:58 PM
There is in fact a hand-drawn map I was working on that contains a lot of the locations already - I need to grab it from my old house or download a digitised version of it to continue making alterations but the mapping won't be an issue. The plot/subplots will be, and whilst I've ideas for all sorts of things it'll be great to have other people on board adding to it and making things more diverse :)

I'll get things moving :)

Nice. I have been thinking about some ideas already. Might be handy to collaborate on what we should add...
I've PM'd Mootles to get a private subforum set up so we can start proper collaboration; the rough idea is that we'll set up 'draft' threads that'll be whittled down into the rules/setting/OOC/IC threads etc out of the public eye so that when the end result is published everyone will be blown away! Thank you all once again for your interest in collaborating on this - I'm really chuffed you all like the basic idea enough to waste valuable time helping! :p

Man, Weiss... You continually and consistently impress me.
I would like to an will attempt to add stuff to the thing later but... You know me... Not known for my dependability on this kind of task.
Reon as always you're too kind :) It doesn't matter how consistent you are, just so long as you've got a few things to add or revise throughout the process and you're good.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Reon on May 10, 2015, 05:06:19 PM
Well that stuff, I can do! Thanks, Weiss. I'm very excited to get to work on this!
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 10, 2015, 05:21:54 PM
So do I! I'll tag @Wintermoot in case he hasn't got the PM I sent him yet but otherwise we can begin basically whenever the forum is ready (or if Mootles prefers we'll do it by PM, although that might get messy).
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Michi on May 11, 2015, 03:32:43 AM
Thanks for the reminder Weiss.  If I could actually have someone to help me with the piece on Cain, that'd be great.  I'm not exactly the greatest in writing the backstory/history for a place that I didn't create.  :P

I do have the picture already, though.  It's just the description itself of Cain that is giving me troubles.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 11, 2015, 12:08:41 PM
@Pengu - if you want me to do it, PM the image link and your ideas/thoughts on what you want Cain to shape up like and I can put it together for you :)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Michi on May 11, 2015, 03:53:17 PM
I can do that when I'm off work tonight.  I can PM you what I have and an idea of where I wanted to go with it.  ^_^
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Drexyl Nox on May 13, 2015, 03:30:47 AM
I'll partake Weiss, sorry for the late reply
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 13, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
No worries! I'll ask @Wintermoot to add you to the forum thingy if he hasn't done so already :)

As I think I might have said I'm a bit snowed under with work at the moment but it's becoming easier to manage as the post-election rush dies down and the new government settles in. I should have everything off my desk by tomorrow, Friday at the latest, and things will get started ASAP! :)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Colberius X on May 13, 2015, 04:30:28 PM
I'm interested in helping create some backstory for House Valeria, if you'll have me.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Separatists on May 14, 2015, 04:12:26 PM
Hey guys.

Just popping my head in to express interest. I haven't done a good roleplay in awhile, and the houses roleplay sounds like a great idea.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Laurentus on May 14, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
Join House Valeria! :P

Don't trust those Meindherts. They were started by some politician bloke. I don't think I have to say more than that. ;)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Michi on May 15, 2015, 02:07:18 AM
Join the noble house of Penguon.

Currently it's just me.  :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 15, 2015, 02:38:55 AM
House? What house? I live in a shack owned by a lunatic who believes that... oh, THAT House...
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: PB on May 15, 2015, 03:42:35 AM
I guess I would have to join a house to participate in a house-based roleplay, huh?  Hmm...
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Michi on May 15, 2015, 03:54:56 AM
I guess I would have to join a house to participate in a house-based roleplay, huh?  Hmm...

*nudges shoulder* eh? eh? (https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fz5.ifrm.com%2F30286%2F34%2F0%2Fe5193335%2Fe5193335.gif&hash=3f8f68974c6b8cd6317e4a00cc7eadea)
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 15, 2015, 04:37:39 AM
I guess I would have to join a house to participate in a house-based roleplay, huh?  Hmm...
Why not take a look at House Valeria?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 15, 2015, 04:46:08 AM
If you guys could direct house recruitment elsewhere, it would be much appreciated. This is still an official topic on improving roleplay in the region. :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 15, 2015, 04:47:40 AM
 :-[ Sorry 'bout that...
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 15, 2015, 05:04:39 AM
Hehe...it's not just your fault. :P

I'm still hoping to get some insight on how we can promote RPs to the region outside these forums. I think there's a lot of interest in RPing, but we don't do the best job of promoting what you can get into to them.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 15, 2015, 05:08:13 AM
Well, there's the RMB, and the founder has the ability to mass TG the region. You could use those resources as ways of promoting this Particular RP. If there's as much interest as I think there will be, we're gonna have a huge boost in members belonging to houses.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: PB on May 15, 2015, 05:41:21 AM
Well, there's the RMB, and the founder has the ability to mass TG the region. You could use those resources as ways of promoting this Particular RP. If there's as much interest as I think there will be, we're gonna have a huge boost in members belonging to houses.

The Family system might not be so unique as I think it is, but its definitely a new experience for me coming to this region. One of the first steps in promoting this RP could be (and might have to be) promotion of the family system.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 15, 2015, 05:46:23 AM
If they're to become successful, I foresee houses taking a role in a lot of regional affairs, especially in attracting new members and integrating them into the community. Who better to do that kind of work than people that are motivated to grow and maintain their families? Especially if there's a competitive component to it that would motivate houses even more. In that same vein, I don't think it's the system that needs to be promoted as much as families themselves, and it is probably best done by the houses themselves.

For regional telegrams, I really need to find people to help write those. We don't send them often enough for much of anything because I get too busy with other things. I think the last one we sent out was for the last Underhusen election.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: PB on May 15, 2015, 06:18:10 AM
If they're to become successful, I foresee houses taking a role in a lot of regional affairs, especially in attracting new members and integrating them into the community. Who better to do that kind of work than people that are motivated to grow and maintain their families? Especially if there's a competitive component to it that would motivate houses even more. In that same vein, I don't think it's the system that needs to be promoted as much as families themselves, and it is probably best done by the houses themselves.

For regional telegrams, I really need to find people to help write those. We don't send them often enough for much of anything because I get too busy with other things. I think the last one we sent out was for the last Underhusen election.

Sounds like a task for the minister of informa...oh.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 15, 2015, 06:30:37 AM
Unfortunately, even at the height of its activity, the Ministry of Information never took on anything beyond putting together the foreign dispatch, although they were supposed to do a great many other things. I imagine these particular dispatches could be written through the Ministry of Culture, or just by freelance writers as part of the Civil Service.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Weissreich on May 15, 2015, 01:59:02 PM
I guess I would have to join a house to participate in a house-based roleplay, huh?  Hmm...
Nope! Joining a House allows you to make one, two or all of your characters a member of that House should you so wish. If you're not a member of a House, you're unable to make any of your characters a member of one Lineage without prior permission from the M/Patriarch or in-RP confirmation of marriage (or along those lines).


Obviously I'd advise joining the Meindhert Line, but that's just because I'm Wintreath's only current Duke and my sister, Amalya is one of the few Countesses of Wintreath. We're obviously doing something right ;)

If they're to become successful, I foresee houses taking a role in a lot of regional affairs, especially in attracting new members and integrating them into the community. Who better to do that kind of work than people that are motivated to grow and maintain their families? Especially if there's a competitive component to it that would motivate houses even more. In that same vein, I don't think it's the system that needs to be promoted as much as families themselves, and it is probably best done by the houses themselves.

For regional telegrams, I really need to find people to help write those. We don't send them often enough for much of anything because I get too busy with other things. I think the last one we sent out was for the last Underhusen election.
Oh Mootles, now we're talking ;) If the Houses do expand to fill a position beyond just the House RP and general fun, I'm sure we can work something out!
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 15, 2015, 04:34:52 PM
That's what I hope will be the beauty of it...there won't be much to work out. Houses will want to take on these sorts of roles out of their own self-interest, in much the same way regions do the same for NationStates for their own self interest. It'll be a huge boon to the region if it works out, and relieve some of the work that that government has to do now.

I've also been contemplating making a house-based browser game that would also encourage new and larger houses. Basically it would involve exploring, controlling, and expanding domains in the region, developing them to gain more resources for use or trade, building and expanding towns, raising armies (or perhaps family members would be the army), and fighting both NPCs and each other for domination in Wintreath, somewhat similar to the Daimyos of feudal Japan.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on May 15, 2015, 06:20:19 PM
Or the family members could lead the armies, but then that would make it pretty similar to Heroes of Might And Magic.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Supernovae on May 15, 2015, 08:29:30 PM
That's what I hope will be the beauty of it...there won't be much to work out. Houses will want to take on these sorts of roles out of their own self-interest, in much the same way regions do the same for NationStates for their own self interest. It'll be a huge boon to the region if it works out, and relieve some of the work that that government has to do now.

I've also been contemplating making a house-based browser game that would also encourage new and larger houses. Basically it would involve exploring, controlling, and expanding domains in the region, developing them to gain more resources for use or trade, building and expanding towns, raising armies (or perhaps family members would be the army), and fighting both NPCs and each other for domination in Wintreath, somewhat similar to the Daimyos of feudal Japan.
That sounds cool
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 16, 2015, 01:06:24 AM
That's what I hope will be the beauty of it...there won't be much to work out. Houses will want to take on these sorts of roles out of their own self-interest, in much the same way regions do the same for NationStates for their own self interest. It'll be a huge boon to the region if it works out, and relieve some of the work that that government has to do now.

I've also been contemplating making a house-based browser game that would also encourage new and larger houses. Basically it would involve exploring, controlling, and expanding domains in the region, developing them to gain more resources for use or trade, building and expanding towns, raising armies (or perhaps family members would be the army), and fighting both NPCs and each other for domination in Wintreath, somewhat similar to the Daimyos of feudal Japan.
That sounds cool
That sounds like an idea, I'm guessing, most of us would maybe like to implement.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 16, 2015, 01:42:27 AM
The only problem is that it would take a significant amount of time to code such a project, especially with my current workload in the region, so my immediate goals are to close other projects and to offload some of the stuff I'm doing to others, especially things that are simple but take up a lot of time like recruitment.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 16, 2015, 05:17:22 PM
The only problem is that it would take a significant amount of time to code such a project, especially with my current workload in the region, so my immediate goals are to close other projects and to offload some of the stuff I'm doing to others, especially things that are simple but take up a lot of time like recruitment.
Are there any other coders in Winreath that can help with the ongoing projects that you're planning to offload? Surely there must be... right?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 16, 2015, 05:27:04 PM
It's not really the coding portion I need to offload, it's the simpler stuff that anyone could be doing. Anyone with some time could recruit, for instance. :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Reon on May 16, 2015, 09:04:19 PM
 It is quite the simple process, recruiting... You should try it, Gamer...
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 16, 2015, 09:47:06 PM
You should try it too, Reon...

Edit: You should try endotarting, too. :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 17, 2015, 11:45:47 AM
It is quite the simple process, recruiting... You should try it, Gamer...
I'm fairly new to Winreath, so I'm kind of familiar with anything and everything.... except recruitment...  :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: JustAGamer on May 17, 2015, 11:46:03 AM
You should try it too, Reon...

Edit: You should try endotarting, too. :P
LOL  :P :P :P :P :P
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on May 17, 2015, 01:36:00 PM
The point is correct though...if only a few people were to recruit some each day, it would make a dent in how many nations I have to recruit to.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Michi on May 18, 2015, 01:39:48 AM
The point is correct though...if only a few people were to recruit some each day, it would make a dent in how many nations I have to recruit to.

^What he said.  I can't say much since I've been slacking on recruiting myself, but really the more people that do it...the less nations people will have to recruit.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on July 03, 2015, 01:09:07 AM
You've probably noticed that Weissreich has become busy irl again, and that kinda leaves our RP relaunch hanging. I would like to reopen this discussion to ask...where should we go from here?
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Post by: Laurentus on July 03, 2015, 08:05:05 AM
@Aragonn seems to have responded favourably to this idea, so perhaps he has something to contribute?
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Post by: Wintermoot on July 05, 2015, 05:24:09 PM
Anybody? v_v
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Post by: Aragonn on July 07, 2015, 02:23:28 PM
You're going to have to wait for my phone data to come back on for a response from me.
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Post by: Aragonn on July 22, 2015, 10:37:55 PM
Just as a disclaimer, I'm not speaking on behalf of Weissreich nor do I own the preliminary ideas. With that said, let's move on.

Let's get a recap of what Weissreich wants:

-Three characters per person, at least one belongs to your familial house
-Takes place in Wintreath as if the region were a nation
-Technology uses gears and gyros
-Players can receive rewards for their houses that serve no purpose other than bragging rights
-The plot will be something along the lines of deceitful backstabbing as well as open warfare

Am I missing anything?
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Post by: Wintermoot on July 23, 2015, 01:36:33 AM
Other than Weissreich to do all that...no. :P
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Post by: Aragonn on July 23, 2015, 02:19:09 AM
Since Weissreich isn't here, it falls to us if we want this to keep moving.
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Post by: Wintermoot on July 23, 2015, 02:23:31 AM
I hope it will receive support from people interested.
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Post by: Aragonn on July 23, 2015, 02:26:10 AM
I can't help but feel we need more.
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Post by: Wintermoot on July 23, 2015, 02:29:18 AM
Do you have any ideas how we can get more?
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Post by: Aragonn on July 23, 2015, 02:37:14 AM
Group collaboration.
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Post by: Wintermoot on July 23, 2015, 02:49:30 AM
That's what we're trying to do here, isn't it? :P
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Post by: Aragonn on July 23, 2015, 02:53:53 AM
Indeed.
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Post by: Laurentus on July 24, 2015, 01:56:01 PM
Unfortunate as it is, I think we might have to cut our losses and let this go until the summer (or winter, for us southern hemisphere people) lull ends.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on July 24, 2015, 02:32:30 PM
I don't surrender. A problem is just a lack of an apparent solution. I will find a solution to this problem.
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Wintermoot on July 24, 2015, 02:35:16 PM
I appreciate your steadfastness. :)

It seems the summer decline has been harshest on our RPers...with Weissreich and Sapphiron both not having been around for a bit. What do you need to get along any further?
Title: An Open Discussion on Roleplaying
Post by: Aragonn on July 24, 2015, 02:40:16 PM
Unless we are to create a main plot while we're RPing, we need to create a main plot beforehand. We'll also need an application for characters and a guideline for acceptable technologies.
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Post by: Wintermoot on July 24, 2015, 02:44:44 PM
So what you really need are people that understand this stuff. :P

I'll try to scrounge some up...send out a regional telegram or something...
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Post by: Aragonn on July 24, 2015, 03:06:50 PM
When I RP, I typically create the main plot as I'm going. So when it comes to creating a main plot beforehand, that I need some help with. The application shouldn't be too difficult to create, and the technology should be gearworks or something like that. I need to review the information instead of going off memory...
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Post by: Arenado on August 04, 2015, 10:28:28 PM
Would there be any interest in a sports RP? I made a topic explaining it here: http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=2628.msg42055#new