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Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 26, 2015, 09:05:33 AM
Narrator: A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away--

Director: Cut. CUT! What are you doing, you bloody pillock! You're narrating the wrong bloody movie! Oh, forget it! Get off my bloody set. I'll narrate the first scene, as well as directing. Just get me a proper bloody narrator for the rest of the scenes!

And so, after seven perilous weeks of peril, our brave King Arthur and his ragged band of knights, servants and not-so-loving admirers reached the bridge to the holy grail. Now but one obstacle remained: the bridge-keeper's three riddles. King Arthur promptly decided to set up camp for the day to determine who would first attempt to cross the bridge.

Unbeknownst to him, various parties were conspiring to make sure his quest would not succeed.


Power Roles

King Arthur: The most glorious king of the Britons, our beloved Arthur will tolerate no attempts to sabotage his attempts to secure the holy grail and secure his family's place on the throne of Britain. During each night phase, King Arthur will attempt to identify who among his followers have less-than-pure motives, and also identify who are truly his allies.

Sir Galahad and Sir Robin: Our brave knights who will help Arthur by each working to protect someone from the dastardly French knights, along with the Black Knight. Their skills are only suited to defend from the French and the Black Knight, however, and so won't be able to protect anyone who falls prey to Sir Lancelot's outbursts of violence.

Sir Lancelot, the Brave: Sir Lancelot is undeniably in Arthur's corner, but his over-eagerness can be problematic, along with his short temper. For a grand total of three night phases, he may decide to kill one person at camp, in an attempt to get rid of those who would betray King Arthur and his quest. Of course, in his eagerness, he could just as easily kill one of his companions, and Sirs Galahad and Robin can't protect anyone from him.


The Enraged Witch: This woman is firmly in the corner of the French knights, especially after an incident where Arthur assaulted her with the hated secret word Ni. She now tags along and will attempt to identify her two allies during the night phase, and help them gain access to the holy grail by also identifying other targets for them to kill. She is neutral to the Black Knight.

The French Knights: The much-maligned French knights, who have outsmarted Arthur at every turn, now seek to claim the holy grail for themselves. The only way to do this, of course, is to kill off all our heroes at night. These two dastardly knights will stalk the camp at knight to do just that.

The Black Knight: Perhaps the person who hates Arthur the most is the legendary Black Knight, who lost both his arms and legs in an iconic duel against Arthur. He now seeks to kill Arthur and his followers and claim the holy grail for himself. At night, he may attempt to kill one person, but only starting from the third night, as he must first regain his strength after his earlier run-in with Arthur. Although he is not aligned with the French Knights, the good guys must either vote him off or kill him at night to win.

Rules

1. After the first day phase, someone must always attempt to cross the bridge. The candidate will be determined by a majority vote, and there may be no abstention or no-lynch votes after the first day.

2. Every player must vote each day phase, and if someone doesn't vote for two day phases, that person will be forced to face the bridge-keeper's riddles, and subsequently killed off.

3. Day phases will last for 48 hours, and night phases for 24 hours.

Current participants:
1. Wintermoot
2. Pengu (Horse master, killed at night
3. Sapphiron
4. Aragonn
5. Colberius X (Peasant, Inactive)
6. taulover
7. Reon
8. aternox (Sir Robin, Killed by Sir Lancelot)
9. Aaron Specter (Killed at night)
10. Hugsim (Peasant, Inactive)
11. Ayanhart
12. El Fiji Grande (Killed at night)
13. Libetarian Republics (French Knight, Lynched)
14. Myroria (Peasant, Inactive)
15. Tomb (King Arthur, Lynched)
16. yumyum36 (Peasant, Lynched)
17. Amerion (French Knight, Inactive)
18. Libertin (Peasant, Inactive)

Duration of first day phase: Voting will close on Tuesday at 11:00 PM GMT+2 time. I'm not sure what that is in Forum Time. I'll find out and update this accordingly.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on April 26, 2015, 12:04:14 PM
It might help to use NS time (EST). That's something everyone here should know and be able to understand.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 26, 2015, 12:52:23 PM
I forgot to add that if you want to vote, you type it in this format:
Quote
Vote: Send Laurentus to the bridge

For this round only may you vote to send no-one to the bridge, after that someone must always go to the bridge.

About the time issue, I'll look into it.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on April 26, 2015, 01:11:02 PM
Well, I guess I'll start off the voting for this day phase.

Vote: no-lynch
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on April 26, 2015, 02:01:59 PM
Vote: Send no one to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Tomb on April 26, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
Vote: No-lynch.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on April 26, 2015, 02:51:09 PM
Vote: Have a Shrubbery sent to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 26, 2015, 03:13:07 PM
Now, now. You know that would require you to cut down a tree with a herring...
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on April 26, 2015, 06:32:01 PM
Vote: Send no bridge to the lynch
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on April 26, 2015, 06:52:38 PM
Vote: Send nobody to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Hugsim on April 26, 2015, 08:12:24 PM
Vote: Bridge send the nobody to
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: yumyum36 on April 26, 2015, 09:15:37 PM
Vote: Send No-one to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Libertin on April 26, 2015, 10:31:03 PM
Vote: Send nobody to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 27, 2015, 02:47:45 AM
This is a reminder that I forgot to tell everyone that if they didn't get a PM, it means they're not a power role.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on April 27, 2015, 03:55:25 AM
Now, now. You know that would require you to cut down a tree with a herring...

No, it would require you to do said action since I'm requesting that you put it there.  :P

Ni!
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 27, 2015, 04:07:05 AM
It!
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on April 27, 2015, 04:36:48 AM
Ack!

You win this round, you fiend!
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Colberius X on April 27, 2015, 05:00:19 AM
Vote: Send Laurentus to the bridge.

(If he isn't up for it, no lynch works, too.)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: aternox on April 27, 2015, 06:12:17 AM
I usually have a preference to avoid no lynches, but that only works when everyone avoids them. As such:

Vote: Send Nobody to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Libetarian Republics on April 27, 2015, 01:21:02 PM
Vote: Send Nobody to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aaron Specter on April 27, 2015, 05:31:06 PM
Vote: Send Nobody to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Ayanhart on April 27, 2015, 07:02:19 PM
Vote: Send noone to the bridge

Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 28, 2015, 09:52:59 AM
And so our heroes' day ended with no bloodshed, and Arthur decided to relive a high-point from earlier in the journey.

Monty Python- Knights Of The Round Table/Camelot Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGpVcdqeS0#)

Our heroes promptly decided to turn in for the night, with Arthur and his faithful knights keeping their vigil for those who would seek to do harm.


This night phase will end in precisely 24 hours. Power roles, PM me with your targets for the night, and do so by replying on the PMs I've sent you previously.

That means the defenders too...
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 29, 2015, 09:53:59 AM
And so with the coming of dawn, Arthur did rejoice as he found that no one had been able to cause trouble during the night.

It was now time to decide who would first attempt to cross the bridge, and Arthur laughed at the irony of using the hated system of democracy to choose, as he recalled his run-in with the annoying peasant from earlier... who also decided to follow him on his journey this time, for some reason.

Monty Python- The Annoying Peasant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAaWvVFERVA#)

This day phase ends in precisely 48 hours. Be warned that those who didn't vote in the previous one will be excluded from the rest of the game if they don't vote in this one, but considering that it was the first day phase, perhaps I should ignore that rule for the time being.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on April 29, 2015, 05:05:56 PM
*Yawn* Sleeping through the night was great.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 29, 2015, 05:39:55 PM
I can believe that.

I've decided that no laziness will be permitted. People should at least try to stay alive, not avoid voting during the day phase to remain under the radar.

So to everyone that didn't vote in the previous day phase, the rule will be enforced if you haven't voted by the end of this one. Trust me, the game is much more fun if everyone suspects everyone. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on April 29, 2015, 05:41:12 PM
Can you give a list of who hasn't participated? We can try to track them down in their home regions...
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 29, 2015, 05:57:04 PM
1. Wintermoot (voted)
2. Pengu (voted)
3. Sapphiron (voted)
4. Aragonn (voted)
5. Colberius X (voted)
6. taulover (voted)
7. Reon (didn't vote)
8. aternox (voted)
9. Aaron Specter (voted)
10. Hugsim (voted)
11. Ayanhart (voted)
12. El Fiji Grande (didn't vote)
13. Libertarian Republics (voted)
14. Myroria (didn't vote)
15. Tomb (voted)
16. yumyum36 (voted)
17. Amerion (didn't vote)
18. Libertin (voted)

So those who didn't vote were:
1. @Reon
2. @El Fiji Grande
3. @Myroria
4. @Amerion
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on April 29, 2015, 06:07:33 PM
Interesting how those didn't vote.

Vote: Send Reon to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Tomb on April 30, 2015, 12:04:18 AM
Vote: Send El Fiji Grande to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on April 30, 2015, 01:25:53 AM
Randomly selecting from nonvoters?  Sure, why not.

Vote: Send El Fiji Grande to the bridge.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on April 30, 2015, 02:16:18 AM
Vote: Send El Fiji Grande to the bridge

My reasoning is that El Fiji Grande appears to have logged onto the forums while inactive here, while the others appear to be completely inactive, except for Reon. Since the El Fiji Grande account was created solely for playing werewolf, this makes him more suspicious. Reon is also suspicious, of course (and I suppose someone else could vote for him, to even things out), but I only get one vote, so yeah.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: aternox on April 30, 2015, 03:40:24 AM
Vote: Send Tomb to the bridge

Voting for someone who hasn't been online in a while seems to a be a good way to be just noticed enough to avoid suspicion while still sneaking under the radar.

Personally I don't think that people not voting is a good sign towards their role. IMO wolves are more likely to want to vote as not voting would draw suspicion towards them.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: El Fiji Grande on April 30, 2015, 03:57:40 AM
Vote: Send no one to the bridge

As for the explanation of my absence, I've been busying myself with the defender occupation of TBR lately.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on April 30, 2015, 04:00:33 AM
Vote: Send no one to the bridge
Isn't this against the rules?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on April 30, 2015, 04:09:55 AM
Vote: Send no one to the bridge
Isn't this against the rules?

Quote
fter the first day phase, someone must always attempt to cross the bridge. The candidate will be determined by a majority vote, and there may be no abstention or no-lynch votes after the first day.

Yes.  There can be no "Send: no one to the bridge" votes, as they're essentially the same as an abstention/no-lynch vote.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 30, 2015, 05:05:26 AM
Vote: Send no one to the bridge
Isn't this against the rules?

Quote
fter the first day phase, someone must always attempt to cross the bridge. The candidate will be determined by a majority vote, and there may be no abstention or no-lynch votes after the first day.

Yes.  There can be no "Send: no one to the bridge" votes, as they're essentially the same as an abstention/no-lynch vote.
You have the right of it.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on April 30, 2015, 07:26:18 AM
Vote: Send Tomb to the bridge

I don't like voting for inactive players.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 30, 2015, 02:45:25 PM
This is really entertaining when you're spectating as the host. :)

This is a reminder that you guys have until tomorrow at 10:30-ish to get those votes in.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Libetarian Republics on April 30, 2015, 04:02:34 PM
I love some of y'all logic  8)

Vote: Send El Fiji Grande to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aaron Specter on April 30, 2015, 04:35:26 PM
Vote: Send Tomb to the bridge

For the same reason as aternox. Will El Fiji Grande be dying anyway if he keeps his vote as is?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 30, 2015, 04:39:23 PM
I could be wrong here, but at least he was active today, so I think that if he hasn't changed his vote before time runs out, I'll mark it as a rule violation instead.

Pengu, what's the standard penalty for a rule violation like that?

EDIT: If it's up to each individual host, I think I might publicly reveal his role, as this would be his second violation, so some consequences must follow...

Feedback?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on April 30, 2015, 05:43:01 PM
Mention him and let him know first, as he may have accidentally overlooked that part of the rules.  If he doesn't respond by the end of the day phase, then take action.  You could do what I normally do and toss rule violations into a penalty roulette; have different consequences including the possible lynching of them instead of the accused person, and choose at random at the end of the day phase.  And consequences can range from mild to a bit more cruel.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on April 30, 2015, 05:47:11 PM
I believe previously, Pengu decided to give some leeway by disregarding Day 1 and only started removing inactive players from the game starting from Day 3. As for violating Rule 1 about not being allowed to have a "no lynch" vote, that would definitely be the second rule violation but I would suggest giving a formal warning and if it happens again, go ahead with the revealing of roles or whatever you see fit for the punishment.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on April 30, 2015, 06:02:16 PM
Okay, I'll give him time and give him a roulette type of setup tomorrow morning.

In the meantime, @El Fiji Grande, your presence is required. :)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on April 30, 2015, 11:33:35 PM
Vote: Send El Fiji Grande to the bridge
I see that you have edited your post. What did you vote for before, again?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 01, 2015, 02:03:33 AM
I believe previously, Pengu decided to give some leeway by disregarding Day 1 and only started removing inactive players from the game starting from Day 3. As for violating Rule 1 about not being allowed to have a "no lynch" vote, that would definitely be the second rule violation but I would suggest giving a formal warning and if it happens again, go ahead with the revealing of roles or whatever you see fit for the punishment.

That's correct.  Different hosts have different tactics to deal with players.

That being said, you are also allowed to discard non-lynch votes and consider those as "non-votes" and contribute those to inactivity, thus going into what Sapphiron was saying.  It's always up to the host what they choose to do...I just give suggestions.  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 01, 2015, 03:46:51 AM
Hmm. It's so early in the game it's hard to tell who is innocent and who isn't...but since Tomb changing his vote to try to save himself without explanation seems the most suspicious thing this round, I'll vote for him.

Vote: Send Tomb to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: El Fiji Grande on May 01, 2015, 04:09:35 AM
Vote: Libertarian Republics -- He seemed to just jump on the bandwagon. I think the initial idea that I might be guilty was made earnestly - questioning my relative inactivity. But when several other nations simply accept that line of reasoning... hmm. makes me more suspicious. Maybe they were just waiting to see how I'd react. Regardless, I'll vote for Libertarian Republics.


And yes, I did not know that one could not vote for no one.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: El Fiji Grande on May 01, 2015, 04:10:27 AM
*Vote: Send Libertarian Republics to the bridge*
(Forgot the 'to the bridge' part)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 01, 2015, 04:10:47 AM
Vote: Libertarian Republics -- He seemed to just jump on the bandwagon. I think the initial idea that I might be guilty was made earnestly - questioning my relative inactivity. But when several other nations simply accept that line of reasoning... hmm. makes me more suspicious. Maybe they were just waiting to see how I'd react. Regardless, I'll vote for Libertarian Republics.


And yes, I did not know that one could not vote for no one.

:).  It was allowed in the first day, which is usually always the case, but shifted for the later days.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 01, 2015, 04:17:52 AM
Okay, so currently we have the following:

1. Reon with one vote.
2. Libetarian Republics with one vote.
3. El Fiji Grande with 4 votes.
4. Tomb with 4 votes.

If it stays this way, randomiser will be used to generate a coin toss, and whoever wins it, will go to the bridge.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Ayanhart on May 01, 2015, 06:45:06 AM
Vote: Send Tomb to the bridge
Since I really don't like how they edited their post.
I was fairly undecided till that point, but that move cinched it for me.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 01, 2015, 09:51:09 AM
Arthur watched the voting with some concern, as it became evident that he should never have allowed even the slightest bit of democracy.

Now Arthur was being carried off to the bridge by his own knights and citizens.

"Bloody peasants! After all I've done for you and the kingdom! You will regret this day!"

The citizenry ignored him as he tried to break free of their grip, until finally he stood before the bridgekeeper, who happened to be none other than the wizard Tim! Arthur was amazed.

"Tim? I thought you had been eaten by the monster bunny!"

"I got better. But that is not the topic of discussion here. You are here to face 3 riddles. Your life depends on each answer, so think carefully. So. First one: What is your name?"

"Arthur, King of the Britons!"

And suddenly the earth launched him into the fiery pits below the bridge.

"Er. Sorry about that, Arthur. You see, you ceased to be the king when your citizens dragged you down here. Democracy. 'Tis a wondrous thing, is it not?"


Tomb, a.k.a. King Arthur, has just been voted off and killed.

I've decided to give everyone who was inactive in the previous day phase a chance, as nothing really happened in it, but everyone who was inactive or otherwise didn't vote in this day phase, be warned, you will be eliminated if this trend continues in the next one.

And so begins the night phase. Power roles, don't forget to PM me with your moves.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 01, 2015, 10:05:11 AM
And I think that marks the first time that the seer got killed by getting lynched here in Witreath. Congratulations, guys! :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 01, 2015, 10:17:10 AM
I am really starting to believe that the Seer role is cursed in Wintreath. :-\
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: El Fiji Grande on May 01, 2015, 10:50:02 AM
Who are all the people who voted on Tomb, besides the last one that may have saved me?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 01, 2015, 10:57:05 AM
aternox, Aaron Specter, Wintermoot, Ayanhart and myself have all voted for Tomb.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Amerion on May 01, 2015, 03:21:50 PM
Vote: Send Libetarian Republics to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 01, 2015, 03:24:58 PM
It's the night phase now. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 01, 2015, 03:30:38 PM
Vote: Send Libetarian Republics to the bridge
You're either a little late or a little early. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Colberius X on May 01, 2015, 07:59:33 PM
I am really starting to believe that the Seer role is cursed in Wintreath. :-\
I have to agree with that assessment.   :o
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 02, 2015, 10:53:44 AM
I'm terribly sorry that I'm late with this. There is a lot going on right now.

Day dawned, and Sir Robin was deeply ashamed that he could not protect his king from the mob the previous day.

He recalled another instance where his courage had failed him, and felt miserable.

Brave Sir Robin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8#)

But is was now his duty to keep order while the mob decided who they wanted to drag to the bridge next, and he took some small comfort that no one had died during the night.


This day phase will last for 48 hours. Happy lynch-mobbing, everyone! :P

*PS: I can't currently view the youtube video due to technical issues. I would appreciate it if someone can confirm that this is indeed the clip of Sir Robin riding to, and running away from the 3-headed man, with his minstrels singing "Brave Sir Robin Ran Away.*
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 02, 2015, 12:54:20 PM
With the loss of the seer, I will have to conclude that I have no idea what I'm doing. :D

Vote: Send Sapphiron to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 02, 2015, 01:01:13 PM
I feel hurt. :(
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 02, 2015, 02:20:10 PM
I feel hurt. :(
Aww, please don't. You're making me feel bad about my random decision.  :(
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 02, 2015, 03:48:01 PM
I feel hurt. :(
Aww, please don't. You're making me feel bad about my random decision.  :(
Wrong type of appeal to use with Aragonn. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 02, 2015, 03:53:02 PM
Did you just imply that I was trying to appeal to him? >:(
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 02, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
Did you just imply that I was trying to appeal to him? >:(
I... I did, but please don't eat me. O_o
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 02, 2015, 04:01:11 PM
Stop making misleading statements >:( and there isn't a werewolf this round. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Libetarian Republics on May 02, 2015, 04:17:08 PM
I find it quite strange for the 2nd night that nobody has died  :o
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 02, 2015, 04:25:12 PM
The following are some possible scenarios:

i) Sir Galahad and Sir Robin have defended the French Knights' target.
ii) Sir Galahad and Sir Robin have defended Sir Lancelot's target.
iii) The French Knights are inactive.

or ...

The messages did not get through like before. :-\
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 02, 2015, 04:31:31 PM
Stop making misleading statements >:( and there isn't a werewolf this round. :P
Right, we have something far worse than werewolves this time:
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.craveonline.com%2Fimages%2Fstories%2F2011%2F2012%2FDecember%2FFilm%2FMonty_Python_rabbit.jpg&hash=d3a8d5c3d79a361a7d5c386e59a0fbda)

And regarding the second night that no one has died, I can only say that the message(s) are getting through. I'm making sure of that.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 02, 2015, 04:37:44 PM
Oh dear ... it's the killer rabbit!
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Colberius X on May 02, 2015, 06:05:53 PM
Don't mess with bunny.

(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.buzznet.com%2Fassets%2Fusers9%2Fshpulya%2Ffunnyjunk%2Flarge-msg-1132707435-2.jpg&hash=05eded33f264981f73b8a517c5d4c8dd)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on May 02, 2015, 06:44:34 PM
The following are some possible scenarios:

i) Sir Galahad and Sir Robin have defended the French Knights' target.
ii) Sir Galahad and Sir Robin have defended Sir Lancelot's target.
iii) The French Knights are inactive.

or ...

The messages did not get through like before. :-\
I think you mean "The Black Knight" instead of "Sir Lancelot," since the rules say that Sirs Galahad/Robin can't protect anyone from Sir Lancelot.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 03, 2015, 12:33:20 AM
My mistake, but strike the Black Knight off too since he can only start killing from Night 3 onwards.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: El Fiji Grande on May 03, 2015, 12:51:42 AM
IL'l be honest when I say that I have no idea what I'm doing at this point.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: aternox on May 03, 2015, 01:34:29 AM
I think this is correct, please point out if I missed anything.

Day 1:
Aragonn votes No Lynch
Sapphiron votes No Lynch
Tomb votes No Lynch
Pengu votes No Lynch
taulover votes No Lynch
Wintermoot votes No Lynch
Hugsim votes No Lynch
yumyum36 votes No Lynch
Libertin votes No Lynch
Colberius X votes No Lynch
aternox votes No Lynch
Libetarian Republics votes No Lynch
Aaron Specter votes No Lynch
Ayanhart votes No Lynch

No one lynched
No votes: Reon, El Fiji Grande, Myroria, Amerion
No Night Kill

Day 2:

Aragonn votes Reon
Tomb votes Amerion (changes to El Fiji Grande)
Pengu votes El Fiji Grande
taulover votes El Fiji Grande
aternox votes Tomb
El Fiji Grande votes No Lynch
Sapphiron votes Tomb
Libetarian Republics votes El Fiji Grande
Aaron Specter votes Tomb
Wintermoot votes Tomb
El Fiji Grande votes Libetarian Republics
Ayanhart votes Tomb

Tomb (King Arthur) Lynched
No votes: Colberius X, Reon, Hugsim, Myroria, yumyum36, Amerion
No Night Kill
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: yumyum36 on May 03, 2015, 02:04:14 AM
List and Aragonn seem correct. I think Sapphiron is the werewolf. They pushed on Tomb for one and acted super scummy during day 2.

And then they just tried to Appeal to Emotion to gain major credibility. Likely that it's Sapph.

I currently fos Sapph and have a slight innocent read on Aragonn.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 03, 2015, 02:11:50 AM
I am sorry if you feel offended by my playful nature. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 03, 2015, 02:48:33 AM
Lol "Super scummy," I like that phrase.  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 03, 2015, 03:18:02 AM
Does that describe your role? ;)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 03, 2015, 03:55:45 AM
I wouldn't know.  The non-power roles were never given a name.  If we're to assume that they're considered peasants, then arguably they could be super-scummy from being in the mud and whatnot all day long.  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on May 03, 2015, 05:58:05 AM
IL'l be honest when I say that I have no idea what I'm doing at this point.
Does this refer to confusion about how the game works or how it's currently going?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 03, 2015, 10:08:22 AM
@Colberius X, @Hugsim, @Amerion, @Myroria, @yumyum36, @Reon. Remember to vote in this day phase, or you will get thrown to the killer rabbit by the end of this day phase. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: El Fiji Grande on May 03, 2015, 02:01:22 PM
IL'l be honest when I say that I have no idea what I'm doing at this point.
Does this refer to confusion about how the game works or how it's currently going?
I know how the game in essence essentially works. I'm a bit confused as to when day and night begin and end - but my comment was mostly referring to the status of the game.

Two nights without a Night Kill is really weird. We're no closer to finding the Black Knight, and we've already lynched King Arthur, which itself seemed mostly like a random vote. The only two people who haven't voted either night are Myroria (from Taijitu), and Amerion (CoDN?). That seems solely inactive due to the fact that they are from other regions - meaning those from the dark side of the force have been voting among us.

Suspicious.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aaron Specter on May 03, 2015, 02:27:21 PM
I really wish Tomb hadn't done the vote-switching thing, or at least, not in the way he did. Switching his vote to El Fiji Grande might mean EFG is a baddie. But if so, no idea why he didn't vote EFG in the first place.

Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 03, 2015, 02:30:27 PM
I really wish Tomb hadn't done the vote-switching thing, or at least, not in the way he did. Switching his vote to El Fiji Grande might mean EFG is a baddie. But if so, no idea why he didn't vote EFG in the first place.
If I were to hazard a guess, I don't think Seers generally prefer to expose themselves in Day 2. As for vote-switching, most probably to save himself after seeing the votes pile up on him. I won't discount the possibility of an attempt at pointing out a baddie though.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 03, 2015, 02:35:50 PM
List and Aragonn seem correct. I think Sapphiron is the werewolf. They pushed on Tomb for one and acted super scummy during day 2.

And then they just tried to Appeal to Emotion to gain major credibility. Likely that it's Sapph.

I currently fos Sapph and have a slight innocent read on Aragonn.
Just so we're clear, this was a vote for Sapphiron?

I should really be pointing out that Sapphiron really was only playing with the "I feel hurt :(" comment, and I was joking along with Aragonn and Sapph with my comments after that.

This shouldn't be seen as either a denial or a confirmation as to the role, as the host may never do that, I just thought I should clear this up.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aaron Specter on May 03, 2015, 03:22:11 PM
List and Aragonn seem correct. I think Sapphiron is the werewolf. They pushed on Tomb for one and acted super scummy during day 2.

And then they just tried to Appeal to Emotion to gain major credibility. Likely that it's Sapph.

I currently fos Sapph and have a slight innocent read on Aragonn.
Just so we're clear, this was a vote for Sapphiron?

I should really be pointing out that Sapphiron really was only playing with the "I feel hurt :(" comment, and I was joking along with Aragonn and Sapph with my comments after that.

This shouldn't be seen as either a denial or a confirmation as to the role, as the host may never do that, I just thought I should clear this up.

'FoS' stands for Finger of Suspicion. I.e. "I suspect". It's a common term used by forum mafia players along with 'scummy' which is a way of saying you think someone's giving off wolf vibes.

Also, no offence intended, but I think it'd be best if you didn't comment so much during the game outside of your moderator duties. It might contribute to confusion about phases or players, and, as you've just done there, you'd have to repeatedly say 'don't take this to mean that'. I might even start suspecting you.  ;)

Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 03, 2015, 04:08:45 PM
No offence taken. :)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Reon on May 03, 2015, 04:10:38 PM
*a wet old chap stumbles in, bleeding out of at least one hazardous wound*
'S a'roight a'm f'ne.
*the man gazes around the room, meeting the eye of each member*
'S 'at un!
Vote: Send El Fiji Grande to the Bridge.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Colberius X on May 03, 2015, 06:20:05 PM
Also, no offence intended, but I think it'd be best if you didn't comment so much during the game outside of your moderator duties. It might contribute to confusion about phases or players, and, as you've just done there, you'd have to repeatedly say 'don't take this to mean that'. I might even start suspecting you.  ;)
I tried to vote him off on Day 1.  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 03, 2015, 06:23:34 PM
I should really be pointing out that Sapphiron really was only playing with the "I feel hurt :(" comment, and I was joking along with Aragonn and Sapph with my comments after that.
Yes, we were all just joking around. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: El Fiji Grande on May 03, 2015, 06:51:16 PM
*a wet old chap stumbles in, bleeding out of at least one hazardous wound*
'S a'roight a'm f'ne.
*the man gazes around the room, meeting the eye of each member*
'S 'at un!
Vote: Send El Fiji Grande to the Bridge.
Is this because Tomb ended up being a seer and switched his vote to me?

I think he did that because he wanted to save himself from the votes stacking up against him, and simply picked a suspicious character - me, who was up until that point quite quiet.

Personally, I'm far more suspicious of the people that stacked up against Tomb.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 03, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
Sapphiron seems kinda wolfy to me...

Quick question, does the game continue if all the bad guys are caught except the Black Knight?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: yumyum36 on May 03, 2015, 08:33:10 PM
Vote: Send Sapphiron to the Bridge.

My main jib with sapph was that they were using emotions to get me and ara to trust them. To convince me they were not using emotions to get people to trust them, they said they were joking.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 03, 2015, 10:36:23 PM
Aragon, I believe the Black Knight has to be killed off before we can fulfill the victory conditions.

Meanwhile ...

Help! Help! I am being repressed!
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 03, 2015, 10:56:14 PM
I don't quite understand why Sapphiron is being targeted...he appears to have been picked at random. Also, I don't believe there's any merit to targeting El Fiji Grande, because he was just someone that Tomb switched a vote to in order to save himself.

I'm thinking the the werewolves would want to lay low...be as uninvolved as possible while still being active. Based on that, my suspicions are taulover, Hugsim, Libertarian Republics, and Ayanhart. I just don't know which of those to pick. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Reon on May 03, 2015, 11:01:24 PM

Aragon, I believe the Black Knight has to be killed off before we can fulfill the victory conditions.

Meanwhile ...

Help! Help! I am being repressed!
Do you mean oppressed?
We are a monarchy, after all!
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Ayanhart on May 03, 2015, 11:23:39 PM
I'm thinking the the werewolves would want to lay low...be as uninvolved as possible while still being active. Based on that, my suspicions are taulover, Hugsim, Libertarian Republics, and Ayanhart. I just don't know which of those to pick. :P
Yeah... I didn't even realise the day had started.
People seem to be picking really at random and I'm not sure if I like it so much :-\

I didn't like the thought of the vote being put down to luck the previous day, so I had to vote either one of the two with the high-votes.
El Fiji Grande (can I just call you Fiji or Grande or something? Typing the full name is a mouthful... fingerful... idk...) at least tried to defend himself and didn't try to slip changing a vote under the radar. That just screamed scum to me.

This is really different to what I'm used to, sorry if I'm taking a while to adjust :P

As for today... I really don't know. I don't have reads on anyone so I can't help there and I know nothing so... yeah...
If I'm suspicious of anyone it's those who randomly drop votes without saying anything or giving any explanation for their actions... but that doesn't feel enough to make me want to send them to the bridge over it.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on May 03, 2015, 11:43:30 PM
Sapphiron seems kinda wolfy to me...
I can somewhat agree; their behavior seems somewhat strange. Though, of course, I'm not sure what Sapphiron's usual behavior is like.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 04, 2015, 12:00:48 AM
I did say that I don't know what I'm doing. No need to take anything I say seriously.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: El Fiji Grande on May 04, 2015, 12:02:26 AM
Ayanhart - calling me Fiji is fine.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 04, 2015, 12:02:44 AM
I did say that I don't know what I'm doing. No need to take anything I say seriously.

/me takes everything you say VERY seriously.

:P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: El Fiji Grande on May 04, 2015, 04:05:57 AM
Wintermoot's reasoning seems solid to me. I don't think Sapphiron's emotional appeal is enough for me to shout werewolf. I'm much more convinced at examining more closely those who voted on Tomb. Based on that, taulover, Hugsim, Libertarian Republics, and Ayanhart are my options. And honestly, I really don't know who to pick. I don't want my vote to look random.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 04, 2015, 04:32:09 AM
Vote: Send Libertarian Republics to the bridge

It's nothing personal, and I have no reason to suspect him more than the three others I listed. I'm mostly casting this vote so I'm not listed as inactive.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 04, 2015, 05:10:23 AM
A reminder that you guys have about 4 hours and 30 minutes left to vote.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 04, 2015, 05:23:36 AM
Vote: Lynch Hugsim

Like Mooty, I'm purely casting this so that I'm not considered inactive.  I actually don't think there's really much to go on to really suspect anyone, as I don't see either of the currently suspect players to really be that suspicious at all.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 04, 2015, 05:24:38 AM
Vote: Send Hugsim to the Bridge

Sorry, force of habit to say "lynch" than to conform.  That's what happens when the phrase stays the same in the last 20+ games that you've played, and then it changes to something different.  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 04, 2015, 05:40:33 AM
Sorry, force of habit to say "lynch" than to conform.  That's what happens when the phrase stays the same in the last 20+ games that you've played, and then it changes to something different.  :P
Tis called complacency.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: aternox on May 04, 2015, 05:55:57 AM
Vote: Send Aaron Specter to the bridge

In the previous phases he has voted fairly late, and this phase he has posted a few times but not voted so maybe he is trying to stay visible while not rocking the boat with a vote.

I'm not really that convinced about anyone yet, so I figure I'm better off not joining a lynch on someone who already has voted to keep things open to change.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 04, 2015, 07:22:22 AM
Since I have two votes seeking for my neck and I don't intend to perish this early in the game.

Vote: Send Libetarian Republics to the Bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 04, 2015, 10:54:50 AM
Sir Lancelot relished the task of throwing the non-contributors to the killer rabbit.

He watched with glee as Sir Bedevere, a.k.a Colberius X, the annoyingly democratic peasant, a.k.a. Hugsim, the three-headed warrior, a.k.a. Myroria, and one of the mischievous French Knights, a.k.a. Amerion were thrown into the pit with the rabbit, and torn limb from limb.


But the business of the day was not done yet, as the voting had concluded that the surviving French Knight, a.k.a. Libetarian Republics, had to face Tim's riddles.

Tim: "Who comes before me?"

French Knight: "It is I, ze Fwench Knight! I will succeed where ze Arthur-king has failed!"

Tim: "Very well. What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?"

French Knight: "Oh, merde."

Tim: "Wrong, I'm afraid."

And so he was launched over the side of the bridge and into the fiery pit beneath.


Well, we're in a bit of a pickle.

@Hugsim, @Myroria, @Colberius X, and @Amerion didn't vote now for two consecutive turns, which in and of itself wouldn't have been so much of a problem, but the thing is that Amerion is a wolf, and with the coin toss to decide between @Sapphiron and @Libetarian Republics ending in Sapphiron's favour, our other wolf, Libetarian Republics, has also been voted off.

I suggest that we now treat The Black Knight as a werewolf, and should the wolf-seer ever scan him, let the normal rules apply.

Or we could start over, I suppose.

Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Libetarian Republics on May 04, 2015, 11:06:03 AM
God dammit if I had voted yesterday :P

Wintermoot must have known it was me because I kept pushing to kill him these past two night phases.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 04, 2015, 11:16:22 AM
Well, no, I never let him know that he had been targeted. I would never let anyone know they had been targeted.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Libetarian Republics on May 04, 2015, 11:17:29 AM
Well, no, I never let him know that he had been targeted. I would never let anyone know they had been targeted.
Lol I was just kidding.  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 04, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
I told you so! I am innocent :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 04, 2015, 01:18:24 PM
Ah, but the wolf-seer and the Black Knight are still on the loose! You could be one of them, Sapphiron!
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 04, 2015, 01:26:40 PM
If I were one of them, I would have requested for a start over. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 04, 2015, 01:38:23 PM
I forgot to add earlier that the next day phase begins at 11:40 forum time tomorrow, and it's now night phase. Power roles know what to do.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 04, 2015, 02:00:48 PM
Ah-ha! I knew something was going on...I never survive this late into the game. v_v
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 04, 2015, 02:03:03 PM
Ah-ha! I knew something was going on...I never survive this late into the game. v_v
Never say never, my friend because here you are now. :D
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 04, 2015, 02:14:55 PM
Except someone has been trying to kill me since the beginning of the game! They just haven't succeeded for whatever reason...
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 04, 2015, 02:21:06 PM
Except someone has been trying to kill me since the beginning of the game! They just haven't succeeded for whatever reason...
The defenders knew you would be targeted, so they defended you. Thank the defenders. :D
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 04, 2015, 02:25:15 PM
Good...maybe now people will stop targeting me at the beginning of every game. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 04, 2015, 03:32:31 PM
@Laurentus: Future wise, if a wolf becomes inactive and you've messaged him a couple of times to let him know, then shift the role to one of the peasants before you vote him off, since the game always has more peasants than power roles...and with this big of a player list and the fact that we ended another French Knight, it wouldn't have impacted the game much at all as far as pushing it in favor of the bad guys goes.  :P

Thread wise: Good to know we killed a French Knight, disappointing to know that we lost  couple of members and our other knight due to inactivity.  :\
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 04, 2015, 03:38:18 PM
@Laurentus: Future wise, if a wolf becomes inactive and you've messaged him a couple of times to let him know, then shift the role to one of the peasants before you vote him off, since the game always has more peasants than power roles...and with this big of a player list and the fact that we ended another French Knight, it wouldn't have impacted the game much at all as far as pushing it in favor of the bad guys goes.  :P

Thread wise: Good to know we killed a French Knight, disappointing to know that we lost  couple of members and our other knight due to inactivity.  :\

I don't think it's too late to do that, actually. I'll assign someone randomly right now.

EDIT: Also, only 4 people voted, so unless we want a repeat, I suggest people get with the voting in the next day phase. :/
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 04, 2015, 05:04:12 PM
Alright, a new wolf has been chosen.

One of the Knights who say Ni have arrived to take the place of the French Knights, and The Black Knight now works as a wolf too.

Also, I made a mistake earlier. I said that only four people voted. That statement was incorrect.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Colberius X on May 04, 2015, 08:18:31 PM
Dagnabit! If only I'd remembered—

/me is torn apart.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 04, 2015, 08:30:58 PM
I'm sure these things happen.

And also:
Quote from: Colberius X
*Colberius X is torn apart*
Nice pun.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: El Fiji Grande on May 05, 2015, 01:24:38 AM
Hmm. So my suspicions were right fairly early on. I voted for Libertarian Republics a few days ago. Regardless, that was short, and I'll have you all know - I was innocent.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 05, 2015, 01:28:40 AM
Was? Past tense? :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: El Fiji Grande on May 05, 2015, 01:50:52 AM
Was? Past tense? :P
Well, because I won't be able to play in the next one. In nine days, I'll be leaving NS.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 05, 2015, 01:54:21 AM
Why are you leaving NS?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on May 05, 2015, 04:37:19 AM
Well, because I won't be able to play in the next one. In nine days, I'll be leaving NS.
Wait. So are you still playing this game? You haven't died.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 05, 2015, 09:47:50 AM
As day dawned, the peasants and knights were met with a gruesome sight. Not one, but two of their party had been annihilated by the Black Knight and The Knight Who Says Ni.

The shrubber, a.k.a. Aaron Specter, had quite obviously been tortured to death by having 'Ni' said to him over and over again.

Sir Lancelot's servant, a.k.a. El Fiji Grande, had been stabbed once in the heart, and then fed to the killer rabbit. Only his bloodstained clothes remained.

But who among the party could be responsible for these heinous deeds?

Aaron Specter and El Fiji Grande both died during the night, and this is also the first time that anyone has died in this game during the night.

You now have 48 hours in this day phase. Happy voting! :)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 05, 2015, 12:55:37 PM
...well then... So, anyone have any ideas? I'm gonna listen before voting this time. I don't wanna accuse anyone innocent.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Ayanhart on May 05, 2015, 03:37:51 PM
I don't know...
Wintermoot I somewhat trust, same with Sapphiron (Have I commented on your Prussia avatar yet btw? I love it :D )

Everyone else I have a null read on... Except for maybe Pengu, I don't know why, but their posts seem a little off to me, but it's not enough to want to vote them up so idk...

Someone else probably has stronger opinions than I do.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 05, 2015, 04:03:09 PM
How many people do we have left?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 05, 2015, 04:10:56 PM
@Ayanhart Thank you! (https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi61.tinypic.com%2Ffozqtz.jpg&hash=aa91745acd59888f3a1bb29fbfcb34ea)

@Aragonn I believe we have 10 alive players, including myself.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 05, 2015, 06:05:03 PM
I'd like to remind everyone that Laurentus picked a new member to be a French Knight, so it can be any one of the peasants that wasn't a knight before.

So going into past posts to see who is the most suspicious to be one of the knights isn't the greatest idea since, as I said, they would have been a peasant before this phase.

However, that doesn't apply to neither the witch nor the Black Knight.

On those two notes though, does anyone have ideas as to who either of those two roles could be?  We may even be lucky in guessing correctly at the newly created French Knight.  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 05, 2015, 06:48:28 PM
Just a note that I couldn't add another French Knight. I opted for one of the Knights Who Say Ni.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 05, 2015, 07:42:09 PM
Just a note that I couldn't add another French Knight. I opted for one of the Knights Who Say Ni.

Well potato, potahto, same difference.  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: yumyum36 on May 06, 2015, 02:22:48 AM
@Pengu But looking at past posts could work since the black knight was afoot. Also the wolf-seer is a traitor right?

My list of suspicion:

Pengu for traitor/new wolf for trying to deflect
Sapphiron for Black knight/new wolf, because previous.

Innocents:
Aragonn because he had the same thoughts as me. I'm a good guy, so a bad guy is unlikely to think like me.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 06, 2015, 03:39:42 AM
@Pengu But looking at past posts could work since the black knight was afoot. Also the wolf-seer is a traitor right?

My list of suspicion:

Pengu for traitor/new wolf for trying to deflect
Sapphiron for Black knight/new wolf, because previous.

Innocents:
Aragonn because he had the same thoughts as me. I'm a good guy, so a bad guy is unlikely to think like me.

Your logic is astoundingly lacking in that statement.

Because someone agrees with you, they're automatically good because you're good?

You do realize the best thing for a wolf to do is to act like a good guy, right?  They're going to try to blend in the best way possible by making everyone think they're a good guy.  This means agreeing with the good guys in what they say so that those same good guys will think that they in turn are good.  :P

If a bad guy is not doing that and making himself obviously look bad, then it'd be quite a short game.  ;)

As for my statement, why would I be trying to deflect by saying "Hey you know, if you're trying to find the new wolf by looking into past posts, you're doing it wrong since they were given the title after the previous day/night phases" ?  That's not deflection, that's fact.  The new wolf previously was not a wolf, so in what sense would it make to look at their past posts and use that against them?  They were elected just in this phase, so anything from here to later is what should be looked at, and the only backtracking for suspicion from before this point should be in weeding out the witch/black knight.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 06, 2015, 03:44:33 AM
On that note, your post on me seems like a sorry attempt to put me as a bad guy, and your logic for supporting it and the person on your list makes zero sense.

That tells me that either:

A) You're an innocent that has obviously never played this game before.
B) The Witch, and you know Aaragonn is "good" because you scanned and know his role
or C) The Knight of Ni or Black Knight that is simply grasping at straws to avoid suspicion, even though nobody as far as I recall has even named you as a possible suspect yet.

However, I'm willing to bite.

Vote: Send YumYum36 to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 06, 2015, 04:14:28 AM
I'm thinking Yumyum36 is just the village idiot (no offense). There's no need to go all out on him for a highly illogical statement. As you've previously stated, it would be a short game if the wolf made it abundantly clear who he/she is. Let's all calm down and use our heads.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 06, 2015, 04:19:32 AM
I'm thinking Yumyum36 is just the village idiot (no offense). There's no need to go all out on him for a highly illogical statement. As you've previously stated, it would be a short game if the wolf made it abundantly clear who he/she is. Let's all calm down and use our heads.

I will agree with this.  However, I will also say that we have roughly 29 hours before the phase ends, so if there are better suspects to list, then I'll be urging people to speak up.  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 06, 2015, 01:40:30 PM
I wanna look at the less active players, the ones trying to lay low.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 06, 2015, 01:47:27 PM
@taulover @aternox @Ayanhart @Libertin I wanna hear from you four.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Ayanhart on May 06, 2015, 02:40:21 PM
@taulover @aternox @Ayanhart @Libertin I wanna hear from you four.
Hear from us saying what? You can't say that and not give anything you want us to comment on.
I've already said what I think and it hasn't changed since then.
Also, I've no clue what's happening half the time

Timezones are screwing me over bad as most of the discussion seems to happen when I'm asleep.

Anyways, since I'm not into the whole getting booted out of the game I have to vote, since I missed it yesterday...
Vote: send yumyum36 to the bridge
They're either a bad one of us or they're scum.

I'll try and make a point of checking in later/tomorrow morning and I'll change/remove my vote depending on the circumstances.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 06, 2015, 03:50:02 PM
Hear from us saying what? You can't say that and not give anything you want us to comment on.
I meant that I want to hear your thoughts on what's going on in the game, who you suspect, etc. If I don't specify, it means pick something to talk about. I can't always make the decisions for you. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 06, 2015, 04:01:48 PM
@taulover @aternox @Ayanhart @Libertin I wanna hear from you four.

Actually, @aternox especially on that, since he's rarely if ever an inactive player in a Werewolf game, so the fact that he's been so is a bit curious.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on May 06, 2015, 04:17:26 PM
Personally, I have a feeling that some of the people who are trying to act average are the wolves. Not really sure who that would implicate, but that's just my thoughts.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 06, 2015, 04:51:11 PM
In light of what Pengu just revealed about aternox...

Vote: Send aternox to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 06, 2015, 05:18:17 PM
Vote: Send YumYum36 to the bridge

Aragonn says he's the village idiot, but there's also such a thing as playing dumb. I don't believe it to be aternox at all, so yumyum is my choice.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Reon on May 06, 2015, 06:52:01 PM
Vote: Send YumYum36 to the bridge
Bleh, don't know why but I'm having so much trouble paying attention to this thread.
Sorry for my late responses.
I'm afraid I don't have any real ideas about anyone but in general I think Wintermoot has a good grasp of this game and ongoing events so I'm voting with him.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: aternox on May 06, 2015, 09:14:28 PM
I haven't really had a lot to say this phase. We're at a bit of a tricky stage were one of the bad guys has not history of being a bad guy, and the others may not be in contact with any other bad guys. This means that the bad guys may all be working alone and a bit harder to find.

I'm not completely sold on YumYum, but the way they suggested Aragonn was a good guy and then Aragonn backed up YumYum seems odd. They could be the witch and black knight, so:

Vote: Send YumYum36 to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on May 06, 2015, 11:20:59 PM
Vote: Send YumYum36 to the bridge

Wintermoot's, Aternox's, and Ayanhart's arguments seem quite sound, so I'll vote with them and everyone else. There's also the fact that there really isn't anyone much better to lynch, other than Aternox, and the link there seems to be a bit weak.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on May 06, 2015, 11:30:38 PM
Aragonn says he's the village idiot, but there's also such a thing as playing dumb.
This makes sense, since YumYum36 has used Werewolf/Mafia jargon earlier in this game.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: yumyum36 on May 07, 2015, 12:04:06 AM
Vote: Send YumYum36 to the bridge

Aragonn says he's the village idiot, but there's also such a thing as playing dumb. I don't believe it to be aternox at all, so yumyum is my choice.

Geez such harsh words. I didn't quite... elocute my ideas. I was in a rush at the time. Ara had the same EXACT thought process as what I was going to post, before I turned the page tab, and said it better than me, in his post where he accused Saph. Villagers act the same, while wolves act paranoid.

I've played this game a lot, and I either gain trust for being smart or lynched being dumb, both as town.

A wolf tries to hide their feelings, I don't.

Wolf is probably trying to lead on me because Saph could possibly be town town then, and then will say I was secretly intelligent and lead on them? IDK, BUT I'm NOT the wolf |: 29 hours, and yet the bandwagon only happens in 4.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: yumyum36 on May 07, 2015, 12:13:05 AM
Alright, a new wolf has been chosen.

One of the Knights who say Ni have arrived to take the place of the French Knights, and The Black Knight now works as a wolf too.

Also, I made a mistake earlier. I said that only four people voted. That statement was incorrect.

Also to @Pengu , saying that the Black Knight didn't become a wolf, it is clearly said above, which is why I was saying it was dumb to discount past posts in their entirety.

I'm not sure if Sapph is town or wolf, but I'm going to say that if Sapph is a wolf, you're definitely a wolf too.

You said I was wrong entirely about something I was right on, and lead 6 votes on me mostly from people who trust you, or as 2 of the posts say, noobs who really haven't played this game before. I used to play a browser version of this so I do have some experience with the terms and stuff.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 07, 2015, 12:39:45 AM
I apologize if you thought my post was harsh...I didn't mean to offend you at all. =/
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on May 07, 2015, 01:14:45 AM
You said I was wrong entirely about something I was right on, and...
What is this "something" you are referring to?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: taulover on May 07, 2015, 01:38:49 AM
Geez such harsh words. I didn't quite... elocute my ideas. I was in a rush at the time. Ara had the same EXACT thought process as what I was going to post, before I turned the page tab, and said it better than me, in his post where he accused Saph. Villagers act the same, while wolves act paranoid.
I would like to point out that this makes very little sense. Let us take a look at what Aragonn has written:
I did say that I don't know what I'm doing. No need to take anything I say seriously.
Aragonn also mentions that voting for Sapphiron was a "random decision" and that he, Laurentus, and Sapph were "joking around." The only time he actually says anything against Sapphiron is when he calls Sapph "kinda wolfy," which is immediately followed by the above quote of saying that he has no idea what he is doing.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 07, 2015, 02:34:13 AM
Alright, a new wolf has been chosen.

One of the Knights who say Ni have arrived to take the place of the French Knights, and The Black Knight now works as a wolf too.

Also, I made a mistake earlier. I said that only four people voted. That statement was incorrect.

Also to @Pengu , saying that the Black Knight didn't become a wolf, it is clearly said above, which is why I was saying it was dumb to discount past posts in their entirety.

I'm not sure if Sapph is town or wolf, but I'm going to say that if Sapph is a wolf, you're definitely a wolf too.

You said I was wrong entirely about something I was right on, and lead 6 votes on me mostly from people who trust you, or as 2 of the posts say, noobs who really haven't played this game before. I used to play a browser version of this so I do have some experience with the terms and stuff.

Did I ever say the Black Knight didn't become a wolf?  Read my posts again.  I stated a few times to not look into the past posts of villagers since they don't mean anything being as a new wolf was created this round...two in the case of the Black Knight having new wolf powers, but purely one villager was also made into a wolf.  Hence why I said, and I quote "and the only backtracking for suspicion from before this point should be in weeding out the witch/black knight."

Did I say why we should be weeding them out or the fact that the Black Knight had new wolf powers?  No, but I did specifically state that if you're looking to go back into someone's post history before this point, it should specifically be because you think they may be the Black Knight/Witch, not because you're trying to figure out which villager was also made into a wolf, since that makes as much sense as going into a Radio-Shack to buy condoms.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 07, 2015, 06:52:27 AM
Forgive my inactivity yesterday, having spent the entire day revising for my history paper.

There was such a huge build up of tension while I was away?  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 07, 2015, 10:16:24 AM
Tim the wizard watched with amusement as the peasants and knights brought forth the sorriest excuse for a prince that he had ever seen, to face the riddles.

Tim: "What is your name?"

Prince Herbert: "I'll tell you by signing my name--"

Tim: "Er, no. No you won't."

Tim proceeded to blow prince Herbert to pieces with a series of fireballs. He yelled for silence as the knights and peasants protested.

Tim: "Honestly, you should have fed that thing to the killer rabbit a long time ago. He had no business trying to claim the holy grail."
Sir Robin was saddened by the death of the singing prince, as the business of the day was not yet finished. He now had to throw his own minstrel to the killer rabbit, because his minstrel also neglected to vote for the last 2 days.
Prince Herbert, a.k.a. The Singing Prince, a.k.a. yumyum36, and Sir Robin's minstrel, a.k.a. Libertin have been voted off and killed and killed for inactivity respectively.

It is now night phase, and this night phase will again last for 24 hours. Don't forget to PM me with your targets, power roles.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 07, 2015, 05:18:15 PM
Alright, so we have 8 people left, 3 being bad guys and 3 being good. The villager's numbers are growing thin, and this is a hazardous point for the wolves.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 07, 2015, 07:02:40 PM
Hmm...is it just me or has the game become a bit disorienting since roles were changed?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 07, 2015, 07:10:42 PM
Only one villager got bit and turned wolf. Other than that, everyone is the same.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 08, 2015, 01:13:12 AM
It's so quiet tonight...
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 08, 2015, 01:37:18 AM
I guess people are asleep. :))
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 08, 2015, 11:06:01 AM
Sir Robin heard the footsteps behind him, and turned to find the Black Knight getting ready to strike at him. He readied his blade and engaged in a mighty duel, and succeeded in driving the Black Knight off.

He started to give chase, but then felt the life suddenly rush out of him as Sir Lancelot's cold blade sank into his chest. He could get no scream out. He died almost instantly.

Elsewhere in camp, a scream went up as the horse master met his end at the hands of the Knight of Ni.



Sir Robin, a.k.a. aternox has met his end, along with the horse master, a.k.a. Pengu

And so begins the day phase. Be advised that if one more innocent dies, the Black Knight and the Knight of Ni will win the game, also securing victory for the witch.

Current participants:
1. Wintermoot
2. Pengu (peasant, killed at night)
3. Sapphiron
4. Aragonn
5. Colberius X (Peasant, Inactive)
6. taulover
7. Reon
8. aternox (Sir Robin, Killed by Sir Lancelot)
9. Aaron Specter (Killed at night)
10. Hugsim (Peasant, Inactive)
11. Ayanhart
12. El Fiji Grande (Killed at night)
13. Libetarian Republics (French Knight, Lynched)
14. Myroria (Peasant, Inactive)
15. Tomb (King Arthur, Lynched)
16. yumyum36 (Peasant, Lynched)
17. Amerion (French Knight, Inactive)
18. Libertin (Peasant, Inactive)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 08, 2015, 07:16:08 PM
Well....with a defender and an experienced player dead, I think it's safe to say the good guys are screwed.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Reon on May 08, 2015, 07:44:46 PM
Oh come now, we've come out of more difficult situations than this before... Though losing Pengu is a brutal loss in experience and a defender is always unfortunate to lose...
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 08, 2015, 08:31:54 PM
Lancelot can only use his power once more as well.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 08, 2015, 09:51:48 PM
Nope, Lancelot's only used it this once. He has two more kills.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 08, 2015, 10:17:54 PM
I thought he could only kill twice. My bad.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Ayanhart on May 09, 2015, 06:46:15 AM
So these are our options rn:

If we lynch then we've a 50/50 chance of getting a bad guy or ending the game.
If we don't lynch, we're betting on luck that the Lancelot kills an evil guy today and the day after and that they don't kill any of us...

If I'm honest I'd rather take my chances with lynching, since the other outcome relies heavily on the scum getting unlucky/having bad reads.

With that thought in mind...
Vote:Send Reon to the bridge

If you are a villager, please, y'know, actually try and defend yourself as opposed to being as apathetic as the others have been...
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 09, 2015, 02:35:30 PM
I am going to do a leap of faith here.

Most of the previous rounds of Werewolf involved Wintermoot dying early. Although Wintermoot claimed previously that the only reason why he survived till then was because the defenders had been protecting him (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=2262.msg34211#msg34211), I am going to hazard a guess that it is in actuality because Wintermoot is one of the bad guys.

Vote: Send Wintermoot to the bridge
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 09, 2015, 02:56:47 PM
That is a remarkably odd leap of reasoning...for one, it's known that roles had to be re-assigned mid-game, meaning that I couldn't possibly have been a wolf during the early rounds when you claim I didn't die because I was a bad guy. Even if that were not the case, for what you say to be true both targets that I would have selected would have had to be defended during the early turns (because I've obviously been active), and I would have had to betray Libertarian Republics, since I'm the one that intially casted a vote for him, although it was luck that he happened to be a wolf.

As someone that is usually quite logical in his reasoning in this game, and usually not so vocal about voting someone off, I can only conclude that this is a rush to eliminate me, someone wolves have been unable to kill off during the night rounds, and thus win the game...therefore, I conclude that you are one of the bad guys.

Vote: Send Sapphiron to the bridge.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 09, 2015, 03:49:28 PM
I am looking at the possibility of the seer-wolf scanning you as the Black Knight and revealing it to the other wolves and have Libetarian Republics lie to protect the bad guys' final hope. There may be a small gap but like I said, it's a leap of faith.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 09, 2015, 03:54:40 PM
You can call it a leap of faith. I call it a desperate move to end the game asap.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Reon on May 09, 2015, 04:32:15 PM

With that thought in mind...
Vote:Send Reon to the bridge

If you are a villager, please, y'know, actually try and defend yourself as opposed to being as apathetic as the others have been...
So... Am I a random pick? Or do you have reasons... Because I'd like to defend myself but... It's a lot harder to do that if I'm a random pick.
On the other hand I can make this argument: I had literally no clue I was signed up for this game until I got pinged like three nights in or something and I've only said like three things. I really just haven't been that active for this game and I'm sorry for that. If we lose, it's very possible that that will be my fault for not having been here and being attentive earlier...
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 09, 2015, 04:37:18 PM
http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=2218.0

I suppose I should have followed up with everyone about whether they were still in.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Ayanhart on May 09, 2015, 04:54:08 PM
So... Am I a random pick? Or do you have reasons... Because I'd like to defend myself but... It's a lot harder to do that if I'm a random pick.
On the other hand I can make this argument: I had literally no clue I was signed up for this game until I got pinged like three nights in or something and I've only said like three things. I really just haven't been that active for this game and I'm sorry for that. If we lose, it's very possible that that will be my fault for not having been here and being attentive earlier...
Yeah it was random.
I was hoping voting someone would spark some life into a somewhat-dead thread. It worked! :D
So, my guess is, you're scum that is covering your tracks or a peasant that didn't get a PM... I'm kinda leaning towards the latter. You didn't post at all till D3, which backs up what you said, so I'm willing to trust you.
Unvote ? I don't know how it's done here...

And now I'm confused between Sapphiron and Wintermoot... :-\

Edit: Spelling & Grammar. How do English?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 09, 2015, 05:00:31 PM
I'll simply disregard your previous vote.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 09, 2015, 07:56:00 PM
Hmm....both Wintermoot and Sapphiron seem logical, but Sapphiron is making a "leap of faith"....

Vote: Send Wintermoot to the bridge

I've had better experiences with leaps of faith.

Edited to fix bold
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 09, 2015, 08:05:52 PM
Really? There's absolutely nothing logical about Sapphiron's post, because it's not even factually possible for his story about me to be true. >.<
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 10, 2015, 04:44:48 PM
I'm sorry about getting to this so late again. I had a day with my family. Anyway, here we go.

The Black Knight (starring Aragonn) and the Knight of Ni (starring Reon) could barely contain their excitement as Sir Galahad (starring Wintermoot) walked down to face the riddles. As soon as he was far enough down the road, they proceeded to brutally cut down Sir Lancelot, (starring taulover), and Sir Lancelot's steward, (starring Ayanhart).

Down by the bridge, Sir Galahad got into an altercation with Tim, and soon Tim was shooting fireballs at Sir Galahad, and Sir Galahad was deflecting expertly.

Just as the witch (starring Sapphiron) was about to intervene by sacrificing a cat and making the bridge tip over, letting both men fall into the pit, suddenly the doctors and nurses from the mental institution found them. "Come along now, Sir Galahad, and where did King Arthur get to? Honestly, I thought you were cured of your insanity after getting arrested last time. Oh, well. We'll find them soon enough."

The Black Knight, Knight of Ni and Witch were dumbstruck. What the hell did they just witness?

Let me be the first to admit that this game was a bit of a train wreck, but allow me to give a hearty congratulations to Sapphiron, Reon and Aragonn for winning the game for the bad guys!

And if you're wondering what the hell was with that ending story I've just written, just watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail. :)

And please, I'd love feedback on the game, where I went wrong, what I could have done better and so forth. Don't worry about sparing my feelings. I don't have any. :)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 10, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
The police arriving towards the end did leave me dumbstruck the first time I watched it. :P Laurentus, you had been a great host, although you shouldn't have that many direct engagements with the players besides clarifying doubts and tallying the lynch votes.

Witch's Actions
Night 1 - Colberius X
Night 2 - El Fiji Grande
Night 3 - Aragonn
Night 4 - aternox


Day 1 - No Lynch
Day 2 - Tomb
Day 3 - Libetarian Republics
Day 4 - Skipped voting due to real life commitments
Day 5 - Wintermoot
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 10, 2015, 05:00:10 PM
To be honest, I think the main problem was that sign-ups were held out too long...I think we lost some people during that period, which led to having to switch roles halfway through the game, which led to an even bigger mess imo.

On a personal note, I probably won't play the next game of Werewolf. I'm almost always the first to be targeted, and apparently when I'm not immediately killed off that alone is a cause for suspicion...it's just not very fun being in that situation, and I see no way of rectifying it except for taking a few games off and giving others the 'honor' of being the first one targeted.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on May 10, 2015, 05:04:54 PM
Wintermoot, like you said, my reasons for voting to lynch you on Day 5 was simply fallacious and unfounded, merely targeted at ending the game as soon as possible. Please don't take it too seriously. :-\ Plus, with Aragonn, Reon and myself all being aware of one another's identities by Day 5, when the number of alive players has been reduced to six, we would have agreed to lynch any of the good guys to win the game. It just so happened that I had a convenient excuse to vote for you. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 10, 2015, 05:08:26 PM
It's not just that, it's the fact that over the course of four games I've been one of the first to be targetted in almost all of them. Even without having it confirmed for me, I'm almost certain that the only reason there were no lynches for the first two nights was that I was being targeted and aternox and I were alternatively defending each other and ourselves.

It's not really what you did, it's not really even this game...it's just the same pattern over and over again, and it's not very fun to be stuck in it. And other than throwing a tantrum about in the hopes of breaking a pattern (and probably reinforcing it instead), the only solution that I see is to sit out a few games.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 10, 2015, 05:17:45 PM
Yeah, I was hoping that you being a defender in this game would make it more interesting, Wintermoot, as you could then survive a lot longer.
It was truly a shame that the seer got lynched, as my intention with having a vigilante in your midst, who happened to be taulover in this game, was for it to lead to a good, but challenging balance between good and bad as the seer could ultimately have teamed up with the defenders and the vigilante, while the witch, wolves and Black Knight would make an interesting dynamic. Both the vigilante and the Black Knight were supposed to lead to unforeseen complications originally, as they could kill just about anyone, good or bad, if they weren't careful.

It also didn't help that so many people were inactive, as that really cut the game short. I accept full responsibility for making people lose interest.

I also stopped commenting so much when Aaron Specter complained. I'm truly sorry for that.

And I understand your frustration, Wintermoot. I wouldn't want to play if I always got killed first either.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 10, 2015, 05:22:54 PM
Thank you for your consideration in my role. :P

I don't really think it's your full responsibility...I think it would be best resolved if we had a system for signups for future games...for example, the sign-up goes up, invites to foreign regions go out that day or the next day, and after a week sign-ups closed. I think the problem was the invites didn't go out for a few days, so the decision was made to lengthen the sign-up period, which caused us to lose some people that had already signed up.

And I don't really agree with Aaron Specter's complaint. I mean, at least you weren't telling people how they should vote like someone that runs Werewolf/Mafia games in another region I know (and now apparently has a rule that he's allowed to break his own rules). I think banter between the host and players can be fun, so long as there's care that nothing is given away or there isn't a suggestion made for players to take a certain action. I thought in-game you did a fine job hosting, and I hope you'll host other games in the future. :)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 10, 2015, 05:38:35 PM
Thank you for the compliment, but I really did almost get Sapphiron killed at one stage, even though I didn't even intend for "please don't eat me" to be seen as implying that he is a wolf.

And just for the record, so no one gets any funny ideas, I didn't pick Wintermoot as a defender, randomiser did that, lol. I was just excited about the opportunity it presented to Wintermoot.

I was also intrigued by the good balance of skilled players on either side, especially having played with Sapphiron as my defending partner in WW3, and aternox as the semi-seer in the same game. The game in which Aaron Specter and Sauron framed me for Wintermoot's murder. Good times.

And I'd definitely like to host it again, but I first want to see whether someone else wants to. Or perhaps it can become a tradition of each host hosting 3 games before someone else attempts it.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aaron Specter on May 10, 2015, 05:55:59 PM

And I don't really agree with Aaron Specter's complaint. I mean, at least you weren't telling people how they should vote like someone that runs Werewolf/Mafia games in another region I know (and now apparently has a rule that he's allowed to break his own rules). I think banter between the host and players can be fun, so long as there's care that nothing is given away or there isn't a suggestion made for players to take a certain action. I thought in-game you did a fine job hosting, and I hope you'll host other games in the future. :)

Laurentus did do a great job in hosting a huge game. I hoped my comments weren't taken too seriously but I believed it'd be better said than not said due to the discussion being somewhat hijacked at that point. It definitely wasn't me getting back at him for nailing me in the last game.  :))

I do agree with the comments on the size of the game though. Hopefully this game will provide guidance for future hosts in terms of player numbers and role distribution. Perhaps a final 'roll call' in the thread before the start of Day 1, for instance, might help with the inactive players problem.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 10, 2015, 05:57:59 PM
I also hope that my Werewolf list idea for contacting people individually goes somewhere in the future, too...I think it would be a great way to keep people interested beyond just posting in embassies. Overall, it's just a matter of developing the 'infrastructure' needed for larger games. :)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on May 10, 2015, 11:00:59 PM
And I do believe the Hall of Winners needs to be updated. :D
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: aternox on May 10, 2015, 11:30:04 PM
On a personal note, I probably won't play the next game of Werewolf. I'm almost always the first to be targeted, and apparently when I'm not immediately killed off that alone is a cause for suspicion...it's just not very fun being in that situation, and I see no way of rectifying it except for taking a few games off and giving others the 'honor' of being the first one targeted.

I've been there a few times, so I know how getting lynched early all the time sucks. If you take a game or two off, or host one, people tend to identify other players that are good and spread the first night lynches around a bit more.

I remember in the XKI that at one stage Aerso was only surviving more than two or three nights when he was a wolf, which meant he was always getting lynched if he stayed alive too long. Eventually the wolves picked up on it and left him alive so the village would kill him. Now, who knows what's going on when Aerso is still in the game towards the end :P I find the metagame sorts some of these issues out but it usually takes a few games. There's no harm in stepping back for a bit, getting lynched early a lot gets boring.


Good game everyone, thanks for hosting it Laurentus!

And I'd definitely like to host it again, but I first want to see whether someone else wants to. Or perhaps it can become a tradition of each host hosting 3 games before someone else attempts it.

I wouldn't mind hosting one at some stage, but I don't mind whether it's the next one or a later one.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 10, 2015, 11:34:21 PM
Thanks for the words of inspiration, @aternox! It's awesome having a pro like you with us for advice and help on these kinds of things. :D
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 11, 2015, 01:32:51 AM
I'll also take part of the responsibility for any complaints that happened towards Laurentus.  He had PMed me asking me questions before the process, and there were things that I should have said (such as keeping the host/player interactions to a minimum) but neglected to.

Also, Sign ups should be a full week, neither longer nor shorter.  The only exception to this rule is if you have a list of, say, 4 players, and are pushing to garner interest so that the list can be larger.  But if you've got enough players to start the basic game with no hitches, then they should close exactly 7 days from the time they were opened.

The minimum players should always be 10, because if you have to revert to the basic power roles, that'd be 2 defenders, 2 werewolves, 1 seer, and then 5 villagers to balance it out.  If there's less players and ample time was given for the signups to gather more (with the absolute minimum in that case being 8 ), then you can go one less defender, but there should always be a balance between villagers and power roles, with the possibility of the number of villagers outnumbering the number of power roles.  Likewise, it has to be balanced in a way so that the bad guys won't outnumber the good guys too quickly.

Outside of those comments, I really don't have much to say.  I think the game played out just fine, and I enjoyed the theme of it quite a bit.

Also: Wintermoot: Don't get too discouraged by being voted out early like that.  It just means that people see you as a potential threat, so they're trying to get you out of the game before you cause damage for the bad guys.  So I'd actually consider that quite a compliment.  Frustrating for sure, but a compliment nonetheless.  :P

Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Wintermoot on May 11, 2015, 02:11:31 AM
I think we can get it at 7 days if we are disciplined about it. I just need an invitation to send out to other regions on the same day that sign-ups open. Giving our ambassadors two days max to post it, that gives our foreign friends five days to sign up, which should be plenty. :)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 11, 2015, 03:20:58 AM
So far it hasn't been an issue, and I recall the sign ups for this game getting about 16 players by day 6.

As long as we keep at the cycle we've had and keep getting word out, I think we'll be fine in the player department.  Normally what kills attendance is when nobody outside of the messageboard hears about it...but considering the dispatches we have ambassadors send out as well as posts on the RMB, that's never been an issue.

I do think that having an invitation ready the day sign ups are posted would be ideal so that our allies/tourists have the same amount of time to be able to pop on by and sign up...rather than having a day or having to extend the deadline so they'll be able to.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 11, 2015, 09:27:53 AM
Everyone's advice has been duly noted.

I actually had quite a bit of trouble coming up with things to write theme-wise for this game, so if I do host it again, I'll probably go with something that isn't comedic. My original intention was actually that people would make this game more alive with their own Monty Python references, but with so few people having seen it, jokes like Sapphiron saying "Help! Help! I'm being repressed!" seemed to go unnoticed for the most part. :P

I'd be perfectly happy with aternox hosting our next Werewolf. It would give me time to think of a theme that fits more with my style of writing too.

I must say that I actually enjoyed reading through WW1's thread, as it was almost an RP as people lived themselves into the setting of that town, so player involvement was actually pretty good, even though people were generally averse to lynching. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Michi on May 11, 2015, 03:59:38 PM
Everyone's advice has been duly noted.

I actually had quite a bit of trouble coming up with things to write theme-wise for this game, so if I do host it again, I'll probably go with something that isn't comedic. My original intention was actually that people would make this game more alive with their own Monty Python references, but with so few people having seen it, jokes like Sapphiron saying "Help! Help! I'm being repressed!" seemed to go unnoticed for the most part. :P

I'd be perfectly happy with aternox hosting our next Werewolf. It would give me time to think of a theme that fits more with my style of writing too.

I must say that I actually enjoyed reading through WW1's thread, as it was almost an RP as people lived themselves into the setting of that town, so player involvement was actually pretty good, even though people were generally averse to lynching. :P

If you ever have troubles with themes, you can always go back to the basic "village in the forest with werewolves" type of theme and spice it up to make it your own.  Likewise, the spicing up of adding various special roles is also optional, so never feel like you have go to all out on trying to think of unusual or unique roles. :)

Like I said though, I think the game itself played out fine. It shows that you put a lot of time and effort into it, and I think it was executed quite nicely.  Not everyone is going to understand where it's coming from (for example, I'm sure maybe one person out of everyone understood where the theme of WW#3 was actually from), but that's okay.  If you do well enough, which I think you did, then it'll get people interested to see the source material.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on May 11, 2015, 05:00:28 PM
I'm actually considering a Giant Mansion/Castle During Severe Hurricane With A Serial Killer(s) In Our Midst type of setting for the next game I host. Inspired by this recent Cluedo game actually.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Colberius X on May 12, 2015, 01:56:26 PM
Witch's Actions
Night 1 - Colberius X
Night 2 - El Fiji Grande
Night 3 - Aragonn
Night 4 - aternox

Why me?  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on June 08, 2015, 05:42:04 AM
I dunno, maybe because I like the name? :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Colberius X on June 08, 2015, 11:24:07 AM
My name?  :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Sapphiron on June 08, 2015, 01:28:57 PM
What do you think? :D
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on June 08, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
When I played in Werewolf III, I kept an eye on Colby specifically, because I'm fairly certain that if he should ever be the wolf, he'd be subtle as sin and twice as deceitful. :P
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on June 09, 2015, 08:51:35 AM
How would you rate my performance as wolf? :)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on June 09, 2015, 09:31:53 AM
How would you rate my performance as wolf? :)
Who are you asking?
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Colberius X on June 09, 2015, 10:38:40 AM
When I played in Werewolf III, I kept an eye on Colby specifically, because I'm fairly certain that if he should ever be the wolf, he'd be subtle as sin and twice as deceitful. :P
And don't you forget it.  ;)
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Aragonn on June 09, 2015, 01:20:57 PM
How would you rate my performance as wolf? :)
Who are you asking?
Anyone know wants to answer.
Title: Werewolf IV: Ye Olde Arthurian Legend
Post by: Laurentus on June 09, 2015, 02:13:09 PM
It's difficult to answer as the host. Sapphiron was the wolf in the first one, he would have something to compare you to. :)