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A Link to the Past - Archives => The Registry of Things Past - Historic Archive => Roleplay Archive => Topic started by: Hydra on January 05, 2016, 05:44:53 AM
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This is the new OOC thread to discuss whatever you want relating to this RP.
As of now, I would like to discuss better names for this RP, or if I should just stick with it.
Also, could I get @Wintermoot to move these threads. I don't have an IC set up yet, so I may need to ask again. :P
Overview:
This RP is set in the past, where the first tribes of Wintreath are emerging into the environment. These tribes must face each other, either in a friendly or hostile manner, and together, they must face the harsh conditions of the environment.
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Done :D
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Thanks!
Hmmm... no name suggestions. I guess I'll just stick with it then!
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So how big our our tribes? 15,000? And can they be other species with origins on the Homeworld, too? (Like from the USS Wintreath RP?)
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That sounds pretty reasonable since the U.S. Census taken in 2000 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#Population_by_tribal_grouping) has Native American populations ranging from 2,000 to 280,000 people per one tribal grouping. (Of course this is now, and not when they were thriving.) As for species, I was originally going with just humans.
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That sounds pretty reasonable since the U.S. Census taken in 2000 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#Population_by_tribal_grouping) has Native American populations ranging from 2,000 to 280,000 people per one tribal grouping. (Of course this is now, and not when they were thriving.) As for species, I was originally going with just humans.
Like then, 280,000 it is!! Always have to have the largest group possible! :P
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The Census only shows what tribal ethnicity people identify as, though. For example, the 280,000 people number is the number of Cherokee. Even now, they aren't in one single entity (there are three federally recognized tribes of Cherokee and many other smaller ones).
It's a bit hard for me to see a single political entity with population over several thousand existing prior to the development of "civilization" without collapsing on itself rather quickly. Then of course, you could explain it as being a rather loosely governed nation (which would probably be historically most realistic anyway).
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^^I'm glad we have somebody that does historical research. :D All I'm concerned with is "Oh, I wonder what characteristic about Rome I can tweak to create a really interesting civilisation..." :)
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^^I'm glad we have somebody that does historical research. :D All I'm concerned with is "Oh, I wonder what characteristic about Rome I can tweak to create a really interesting civilisation..." :)
I might be wrong, of course. Personally, I liked your original population estimation.
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I apologize for not doing proper research. :P I was kind of busy IRL and wanted to get a response as fast as possible.
To reiterate tau, I think your original estimation is pretty on point.
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Just going to drop an official message in saying I'm very interested in seeing where this goes. I might make a fact-book as well.
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Just going to drop an official message in saying I'm very interested in seeing where this goes. I might make a fact-book as well.
Neat! Read a lot of your history/information on places. You write very interesting things!
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So what's our timetable to start here? We could get some new folks who expressed interest in RP in the Gatehouse, perhaps...
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That's not a bad idea, actually.
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I was waiting for more people to finish their rough draft of their factbooks (I'm also guilty of not writing one up either).
Getting some new folks here sounds great!
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Let there be... ACTIVITY!!! :P
But on a more serious note, do we want to be actively talking about this to people in the Gatehouse? I think that we could definitely hook more people if we did...
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So I have a few questions before creating my factbook:
- Roughly what technology level are we looking at for our tribes?
- What sort of area can we control on the map? (I would recommend small land-claims due to the size of Wintreath)
- How many people can we have in our tribes?
- Can our tribe have multiple settlements in the area we claim?
- I can have the climate map for the time-period this RP is set in up in about an hour, where should I put it?
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- I can have the climate map for the time-period this RP is set in up in about an hour, where should I put it?
@Weissreich I believe the map should go in the map thread, once you have it there I believe @xXTheHydraXx will be able to bring a copy the front post in that thread.
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I'll try to answer all your questions when I get home which will be around 9 PST.
The map should go to either the Wonderful World of Wintreath or the regional map discussion. I will be able to put it in to my map post.
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- I can have the climate map for the time-period this RP is set in up in about an hour, where should I put it?
@Weissreich I believe the map should go in the map thread, once you have it there I believe @xXTheHydraXx will be able to bring a copy the front post in that thread.
I'll try to answer all your questions when I get home which will be around 9 PST.
The map should go to either the Wonderful World of Wintreath or the regional map discussion. I will be able to put it in to my map post.
Got it, should have it posted by this evening GMT - that is if it doesn't crash out again -.-
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With regards to Question #1, I originally envisioned this to be a prehistoric, stone age tech level, probably Paleolithic. However, some of the government and military systems I've been reading in the factbooks wouldn't work at that tech level, because the level of organization required would be impossible.
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1. Roughly what technology level are we looking at for our tribes?
Tau kind of answered this and I'm frankly still not sure.
2. What sort of area can we control on the map? (I would recommend small land-claims due to the size of Wintreath)
Right now it is still a "You Are Here" dot on the map with claiming land and expanding coming later as I can't really regulate sizes for land claims, so... any ideas anyone?
3. How many people can we have in our tribes?
This was asked by Robin and his original estimate of 15,000 people seemed reasonable.
4. Can our tribe have multiple settlements in the area we claim?
This should be fine, but again, I'm still trying to figure out the whole claiming thing.
5. I can have the climate map for the time-period this RP is set in up in about an hour, where should I put it?
Already answered.
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I sort-of was thinking bronze/iron age tech. Like early Roman/late Greek(ish), but with a bit of a Viking twist, because we're in the land of Eternal Winter...
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Perhaps native South African technology level, or
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One of the native american technology levels
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I sort-of was thinking bronze/iron age tech. Like early Roman/late Greek(ish), but with a bit of a Viking twist, because we're in the land of Eternal Winter...
I could tell by your factbook. As I said in the Interest thread, I intended it to be prehistoric tech, set in an older ice age period before year 5,000 on Weissreich's TL. In other words, primitive hunter-gatherer tech.
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No offence to neolithic people, but I seriously doubt that they had any sort of organised leadership...
And nice Civ V Pics, @Rasdanation . Inca=OP... right @Wintermoot? :P
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No offence to neolithic people, but I seriously doubt that they had any sort of organised leadership...
They definitely had organized leadership, just not on a large scale. At first, I was thinking of tribes of maybe several hundred people for that reason, and was as a result surprised by how your factbook was turning out.
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No offence to neolithic people, but I seriously doubt that they had any sort of organised leadership...
They definitely had organized leadership, just not on a large scale. At first, I was thinking of tribes of maybe several hundred people for that reason, and was as a result surprised by how your factbook was turning out.
This might be useful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic#Periods_by_region
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With that estimate, cities would be about 3,000 people and civilisations anywhere from 3,000 to 20,000, I think...
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With that estimate, cities would be about 3,000 people and civilisations anywhere from 3,000 to 20,000, I think...
Of course, the size of cities would decrease sharply to the north, as farming becomes much more unviable in colder conditions.
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No offence to neolithic people, but I seriously doubt that they had any sort of organised leadership...
And nice Civ V Pics, @Rasdanation . Inca=OP... right @Wintermoot? :P
I'm pretty sure Wintermoot would say Egypt is op considering how many times that he has used them...
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Let's not let this one stagnate, either!! :)
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Ok. To ensure that this RP doesn't go the way of the inactivity graveyard, I think that we need to put some sort of schedule in place to ensure that we keep this active. Like a "have Factbooks done: March 2nd" and a "begin IC: March 4th" or something. Otherwise we could stay in this odd sort of limbo forever, which wouldn't be very fun at all! Anyone care to comment? :)
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I think that works for me, 2nd of March deadline for Factbook and March 4th for IC :)
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I'm down with that schedule.
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Wonderful!! So we're still going with this schedule, everyone? :)
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It does seem so.
Also, of note is the fact that I'm laying claim to the Saraneth Falls (on the map this is nestled amongst the Line Mountains on the Eastern Seaboard of Wintreath), being as it is that Bain is already claimed :p
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I'm starting to work on the first IC post. Make sure all your factbooks are done!
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@Wintermoot, may I get the IC post moved? Thanks!
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Yay yay yay!!
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Done. :)
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Thanks! :D
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Even if it looks like Palca may be talking gibberish, don't worry, I put the translations of their language in the parentheses next to what he says.
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Even if it looks like Palca may be talking gibberish, don't worry, I put the translations of their language in the parentheses next to what he says.
Looks remarkably like Gungan to me... :P
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Well, whoever would like to may go next. I concentrated more on the scenery this time than I usually do. Hopefully it wasn't a bad move... :)
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Anyone else posting?
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I'll post soon. may come tomorrow.
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I was going to wait for someone else to post first, as my post is still only one post deep (if you get me), but I can come up with something this evening or tomorrow :)
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Due to the stress of state exams, and many afternoon events, I will post on Saturday.
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I guess we'll just have to do for now, I suppose, @Commander_Zemas and @Weissreich
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Bump @Weissreich @Commander_Zemas :)
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Bump @Weissreich @Commander_Zemas :)
Oh yeah. Expect post sunday or even monday.
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Is it too late to potentially join this RP?
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Is it too late to potentially join this RP?
No, it isn't too late to join. Just make a factbook and make a claim on the map. :P (This really needs more activity)
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Anyone want to go? I may post sometime soon, but I'm not really sure what to post. Any ideas? :)
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Any more plans for this or should we scrap it? :'(
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Im interested in this.
The question is, is anyone else?
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Almost all the RP's, unfortunately, have come to a standstill right now. You could post something and try to be an advocate for activity though! :D
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Almost all the RP's, unfortunately, have come to a standstill right now. You could post something and try to be an advocate for activity though! :D
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Do you guys have an Iroquois analogue yet, or has that been done?
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Do you guys have an Iroquois analogue yet, or has that been done?
I don't believe so! Feel free to make one and join though!! Perhaps that'll promote activity!! This RP never really got into the rhythm, you know? :)
Transitions from planning to active RP are quite tricky...
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Could you elaborate more on what you mean by "Iroquois analogue"? Do you mean a confederation of multiple tribes?
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Could you elaborate more on what you mean by "Iroquois analogue"? Do you mean a confederation of multiple tribes?
Yeah, basically. You'll see when I post the factbook.
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I have decided to basically completely overhaul my tribe, seeing as I never actually posted yet, and give it more of a Mongol/Hun/Dothraki feel to it, just taking away all the technology they had
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Is it worth posting in this RP anymore? I really got excited when I saw it, but it really seems to have died....
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I'd be totally for reactivating it, but mostly people never really started it in the first place... @xXTheHydraXx what do you think? :)
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I'd be totally for reactivating it, but mostly people never really started it in the first place... @xXTheHydraXx what do you think? :)
I'd love for it to get up and running! :P And yeah, it's just that it never really got off the ground... transitioning from idea to RP was hard, so hopefully we can help rejuvenate interest. :)
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Well alrighty then
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I can post basically whenever as long as I'm not posting twice in a row IC :P
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I really hope this comes back, I love these primitive type tribes and coming up with how mine will adapt to meeting others
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Me too! I'm just super busy IRL these days... :/
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I actually went and drew some sketches of the clothing and tools used by the Ritchtka, which was actually a lot of fun
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@xXTheHydraXx do you want to make a post?
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I was going to last month but then life happened... Ill see what I can do within the next week. [emoji4]
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And... it's up! :D
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So, I am making languages for like 3 different civilizations I have made, and in this RP, I am actually taking a conlang, Mando'a from star wars which I use as the language for Yaim Rusur, and then actually trying to devolve it to a proto-mando'a state, which is proving to be quite interesting.
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Who wants to go next?
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ME!! :P