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Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on January 05, 2016, 05:44:53 AM
This is the new OOC thread to discuss whatever you want relating to this RP.

As of now, I would like to discuss better names for this RP, or if I should just stick with it.

Also, could I get @Wintermoot to move these threads. I don't have an IC set up yet, so I may need to ask again. :P

Overview:

This RP is set in the past, where the first tribes of Wintreath are emerging into the environment. These tribes must face each other, either in a friendly or hostile manner, and together, they must face the harsh conditions of the environment.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Wintermoot on January 05, 2016, 07:18:46 AM
Done :D
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on January 08, 2016, 05:48:40 AM
Thanks!

Hmmm... no name suggestions. I guess I'll just stick with it then!
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 20, 2016, 08:15:17 PM
So how big our our tribes?  15,000?  And can they be other species with origins on the Homeworld, too?  (Like from the USS Wintreath RP?)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on January 21, 2016, 02:16:09 AM
That sounds pretty reasonable since the U.S. Census taken in 2000 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#Population_by_tribal_grouping) has Native American populations ranging from 2,000 to 280,000 people per one tribal grouping. (Of course this is now, and not when they were thriving.) As for species, I was originally going with just humans.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 21, 2016, 04:21:17 PM
That sounds pretty reasonable since the U.S. Census taken in 2000 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#Population_by_tribal_grouping) has Native American populations ranging from 2,000 to 280,000 people per one tribal grouping. (Of course this is now, and not when they were thriving.) As for species, I was originally going with just humans.
Like then, 280,000 it is!! Always have to have the largest group possible!  :P
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: taulover on January 21, 2016, 11:06:10 PM
The Census only shows what tribal ethnicity people identify as, though. For example, the 280,000 people number is the number of Cherokee. Even now, they aren't in one single entity (there are three federally recognized tribes of Cherokee and many other smaller ones).

It's a bit hard for me to see a single political entity with population over several thousand existing prior to the development of "civilization" without collapsing on itself rather quickly. Then of course, you could explain it as being a rather loosely governed nation (which would probably be historically most realistic anyway).
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 21, 2016, 11:37:04 PM
^^I'm glad we have somebody that does historical research.  :D  All I'm concerned with is "Oh, I wonder what characteristic about Rome I can tweak to create a really interesting civilisation..."  :)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: taulover on January 22, 2016, 12:37:31 AM
^^I'm glad we have somebody that does historical research.  :D  All I'm concerned with is "Oh, I wonder what characteristic about Rome I can tweak to create a really interesting civilisation..."  :)
I might be wrong, of course. Personally, I liked your original population estimation.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on January 22, 2016, 02:52:31 AM
I apologize for not doing proper research. :P I was kind of busy IRL and wanted to get a response as fast as possible.

To reiterate tau, I think your original estimation is pretty on point.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Weissreich on February 02, 2016, 07:35:08 PM
Just going to drop an official message in saying I'm very interested in seeing where this goes. I might make a fact-book as well.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Commander_Zemas on February 02, 2016, 10:09:16 PM
Just going to drop an official message in saying I'm very interested in seeing where this goes. I might make a fact-book as well.

Neat! Read a lot of your history/information on places. You write very interesting things!
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 04, 2016, 04:34:30 PM
So what's our timetable to start here?  We could get some new folks who expressed interest in RP in the Gatehouse, perhaps...
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Laurentus on February 04, 2016, 04:41:41 PM
That's not a bad idea, actually.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on February 04, 2016, 08:06:05 PM
I was waiting for more people to finish their rough draft of their factbooks (I'm also guilty of not writing one up either).

Getting some new folks here sounds great!
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 08, 2016, 07:10:44 PM
Let there be... ACTIVITY!!!  :P 

But on a more serious note, do we want to be actively talking about this to people in the Gatehouse?  I think that we could definitely hook more people if we did...
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Weissreich on February 09, 2016, 03:28:59 PM
So I have a few questions before creating my factbook:
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Rasdanation on February 09, 2016, 04:07:29 PM
  • I can have the climate map for the time-period this RP is set in up in about an hour, where should I put it?
@Weissreich I believe the map should go in the map thread, once you have it there I believe @xXTheHydraXx will be able to bring a copy the front post in that thread.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on February 09, 2016, 04:20:49 PM
I'll try to answer all your questions when I get home which will be around 9 PST.

The map should go to either the Wonderful World of Wintreath or the regional map discussion. I will be able to put it in to my map post.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Weissreich on February 09, 2016, 04:31:08 PM
  • I can have the climate map for the time-period this RP is set in up in about an hour, where should I put it?
@Weissreich I believe the map should go in the map thread, once you have it there I believe @xXTheHydraXx will be able to bring a copy the front post in that thread.
I'll try to answer all your questions when I get home which will be around 9 PST.

The map should go to either the Wonderful World of Wintreath or the regional map discussion. I will be able to put it in to my map post.
Got it, should have it posted by this evening GMT - that is if it doesn't crash out again -.-
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: taulover on February 09, 2016, 05:46:52 PM
With regards to Question #1, I originally envisioned this to be a prehistoric, stone age tech level, probably Paleolithic. However, some of the government and military systems I've been reading in the factbooks wouldn't work at that tech level, because the level of organization required would be impossible.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on February 10, 2016, 05:42:16 AM
1. Roughly what technology level are we looking at for our tribes?
Tau kind of answered this and I'm frankly still not sure.

2. What sort of area can we control on the map? (I would recommend small land-claims due to the size of Wintreath)
Right now it is still a "You Are Here" dot on the map with claiming land and expanding coming later as I can't really regulate sizes for land claims, so... any ideas anyone?

3. How many people can we have in our tribes?
This was asked by Robin and his original estimate of 15,000 people seemed reasonable.

4. Can our tribe have multiple settlements in the area we claim?
This should be fine, but again, I'm still trying to figure out the whole claiming thing.

5. I can have the climate map for the time-period this RP is set in up in about an hour, where should I put it?
Already answered.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 10, 2016, 05:21:21 PM
I sort-of was thinking bronze/iron age tech.  Like early Roman/late Greek(ish), but with a bit of a Viking twist, because we're in the land of Eternal Winter...
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Rasdanation on February 10, 2016, 09:07:40 PM
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.sbnation.com%2Fassets%2F2834825%2Fzulu.jpg&hash=a4fb53366a61bacb1edd89f3b51fffa9)
Perhaps native South African technology level, or
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(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette3.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fcivilization%2Fimages%2F0%2F07%2FHiawatha_%2528Civ5%2529.jpg%2Frevision%2Flatest%2Fscale-to-width-down%2F300%3Fcb%3D20151118213642&hash=6f778889e9c6283ba4e9567d95f67128)
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette2.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fcivilization%2Fimages%2F9%2F9f%2FPacal_%2528Civ5%2529.jpg%2Frevision%2Flatest%2Fscale-to-width-down%2F300%3Fcb%3D20151119215732&hash=90af028392a949b7f45ddead3497bcd2)
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One of the native american technology levels
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: taulover on February 10, 2016, 11:44:22 PM
I sort-of was thinking bronze/iron age tech.  Like early Roman/late Greek(ish), but with a bit of a Viking twist, because we're in the land of Eternal Winter...
I could tell by your factbook. As I said in the Interest thread, I intended it to be prehistoric tech, set in an older ice age period before year 5,000 on Weissreich's TL. In other words, primitive hunter-gatherer tech.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 11, 2016, 12:11:55 AM
No offence to neolithic people, but I seriously doubt that they had any sort of organised leadership...

And nice Civ V Pics, @Rasdanation .  Inca=OP... right @Wintermoot?  :P 
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: taulover on February 11, 2016, 12:19:36 AM
No offence to neolithic people, but I seriously doubt that they had any sort of organised leadership...
They definitely had organized leadership, just not on a large scale. At first, I was thinking of tribes of maybe several hundred people for that reason, and was as a result surprised by how your factbook was turning out.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 11, 2016, 12:29:47 AM
No offence to neolithic people, but I seriously doubt that they had any sort of organised leadership...
They definitely had organized leadership, just not on a large scale. At first, I was thinking of tribes of maybe several hundred people for that reason, and was as a result surprised by how your factbook was turning out.
This might be useful.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic#Periods_by_region
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 11, 2016, 12:30:43 AM
With that estimate, cities would be about 3,000 people and civilisations anywhere from 3,000 to 20,000, I think...
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: taulover on February 11, 2016, 01:15:17 AM
With that estimate, cities would be about 3,000 people and civilisations anywhere from 3,000 to 20,000, I think...
Of course, the size of cities would decrease sharply to the north, as farming becomes much more unviable in colder conditions.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Rasdanation on February 11, 2016, 01:30:35 AM
No offence to neolithic people, but I seriously doubt that they had any sort of organised leadership...

And nice Civ V Pics, @Rasdanation .  Inca=OP... right @Wintermoot?  :P
I'm pretty sure Wintermoot would say Egypt is op considering how many times that he has used them...
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 18, 2016, 04:42:19 PM
Let's not let this one stagnate, either!!  :)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 22, 2016, 04:22:49 PM
Ok.  To ensure that this RP doesn't go the way of the inactivity graveyard, I think that we need to put some sort of schedule in place to ensure that we keep this active.  Like a "have Factbooks done: March 2nd" and a "begin IC: March 4th" or something.  Otherwise we could stay in this odd sort of limbo forever, which wouldn't be very fun at all!  Anyone care to comment?  :)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Weissreich on February 22, 2016, 08:35:13 PM
I think that works for me, 2nd of March deadline for Factbook and March 4th for IC :)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on February 22, 2016, 11:31:02 PM
I'm down with that schedule.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on February 28, 2016, 06:37:05 PM
Wonderful!! So we're still going with this schedule, everyone?  :)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Weissreich on February 29, 2016, 05:35:36 PM
It does seem so.

Also, of note is the fact that I'm laying claim to the Saraneth Falls (on the map this is nestled amongst the Line Mountains on the Eastern Seaboard of Wintreath), being as it is that Bain is already claimed :p
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on March 05, 2016, 04:30:11 AM
I'm starting to work on the first IC post. Make sure all your factbooks are done!
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on March 05, 2016, 05:22:43 AM
@Wintermoot, may I get the IC post moved? Thanks!
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on March 05, 2016, 03:22:16 PM
Yay yay yay!!
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Post by: Wintermoot on March 05, 2016, 07:07:18 PM
Done. :)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on March 06, 2016, 02:45:55 AM
Thanks! :D
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Rasdanation on March 06, 2016, 11:35:18 PM
Even if it looks like Palca may be talking gibberish, don't worry, I put the translations of their language in the parentheses next to what he says.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: taulover on March 06, 2016, 11:46:19 PM

Even if it looks like Palca may be talking gibberish, don't worry, I put the translations of their language in the parentheses next to what he says.
Looks remarkably like Gungan to me... :P
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on March 22, 2016, 03:55:16 PM
Well, whoever would like to may go next.  I concentrated more on the scenery this time than I usually do.  Hopefully it wasn't a bad move... :)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on March 28, 2016, 03:18:04 PM
Anyone else posting?
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Commander_Zemas on March 28, 2016, 08:27:34 PM
I'll post soon. may come tomorrow.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Weissreich on March 28, 2016, 08:35:13 PM
I was going to wait for someone else to post first, as my post is still only one post deep (if you get me), but I can come up with something this evening or tomorrow :)
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Post by: Commander_Zemas on March 30, 2016, 12:05:06 AM
Due to the stress of state exams, and many afternoon events, I will post on Saturday.
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Post by: BraveSirRobin on April 11, 2016, 03:35:57 PM
I guess we'll just have to do for now, I suppose, @Commander_Zemas and @Weissreich
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on April 23, 2016, 04:16:32 AM
Bump @Weissreich @Commander_Zemas :)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Commander_Zemas on April 23, 2016, 11:30:02 PM
Bump @Weissreich @Commander_Zemas :)

Oh yeah. Expect post sunday or even monday.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Cinciri on May 07, 2016, 08:12:08 PM
Is it too late to potentially join this RP?
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on May 07, 2016, 11:49:47 PM
Is it too late to potentially join this RP?

No, it isn't too late to join. Just make a factbook and make a claim on the map. :P (This really needs more activity)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 06, 2016, 11:48:08 PM
Anyone want to go?  I may post sometime soon, but I'm not really sure what to post.  Any ideas?  :)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on August 10, 2016, 07:33:41 PM
Any more plans for this or should we scrap it?  :'(
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Ashton Mercer on August 24, 2016, 12:04:11 AM
Im interested in this.

The question is, is anyone else?
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on August 24, 2016, 01:00:47 AM
Almost all the RP's, unfortunately, have come to a standstill right now. You could post something and try to be an advocate for activity though! :D
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Ashton Mercer on August 24, 2016, 03:21:28 AM
Almost all the RP's, unfortunately, have come to a standstill right now. You could post something and try to be an advocate for activity though! :D
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/95/1b/91/951b9152427da78eb8f71db08b87966a.jpg)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Ashton Mercer on August 31, 2016, 02:30:32 PM
Do you guys have an Iroquois analogue yet, or has that been done?
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on August 31, 2016, 02:44:13 PM
Do you guys have an Iroquois analogue yet, or has that been done?
I don't believe so!  Feel free to make one and join though!! Perhaps that'll promote activity!!  This RP never really got into the rhythm, you know?  :)

Transitions from planning to active RP are quite tricky...
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: taulover on August 31, 2016, 06:25:47 PM
Could you elaborate more on what you mean by "Iroquois analogue"? Do you mean a confederation of multiple tribes?
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Ashton Mercer on August 31, 2016, 08:21:55 PM
Could you elaborate more on what you mean by "Iroquois analogue"? Do you mean a confederation of multiple tribes?
Yeah, basically. You'll see when I post the factbook.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Cinciri on August 31, 2016, 11:18:41 PM
I have decided to basically completely overhaul my tribe, seeing as I never actually posted yet, and give it more of a Mongol/Hun/Dothraki feel to it, just taking away all the technology they had
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Cinciri on October 05, 2016, 11:34:25 PM
Is it worth posting in this RP anymore? I really got excited when I saw it, but it really seems to have died....
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 06, 2016, 03:49:29 AM
I'd be totally for reactivating it, but mostly people never really started it in the first place... @xXTheHydraXx what do you think? :)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on October 06, 2016, 03:56:07 AM
I'd be totally for reactivating it, but mostly people never really started it in the first place... @xXTheHydraXx what do you think? :)

I'd love for it to get up and running! :P And yeah, it's just that it never really got off the ground... transitioning from idea to RP was hard, so hopefully we can help rejuvenate interest. :)
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Cinciri on October 06, 2016, 10:56:06 PM
Well alrighty then
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Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 07, 2016, 12:09:27 AM
I can post basically whenever as long as I'm not posting twice in a row IC :P
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Cinciri on October 24, 2016, 09:03:04 PM
I really hope this comes back, I love these primitive type tribes and coming up with how mine will adapt to meeting others
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 24, 2016, 11:55:04 PM
Me too!  I'm just super busy IRL these days... :/
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Cinciri on October 25, 2016, 08:34:54 PM
I actually went and drew some sketches of the clothing and tools used by the Ritchtka, which was actually a lot of fun
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on November 06, 2016, 05:40:20 PM
@xXTheHydraXx do you want to make a post? 
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on November 06, 2016, 08:33:36 PM
I was going to last month but then life happened... Ill see what I can do within the next week. [emoji4]
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on November 11, 2016, 07:28:05 AM
And... it's up! :D
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Cinciri on November 14, 2016, 09:18:09 PM
So, I am making languages for like 3 different civilizations I have made, and in this RP, I am actually taking a conlang, Mando'a from star wars which I use as the language for Yaim Rusur, and then actually trying to devolve it to a proto-mando'a state, which is proving to be quite interesting.
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: Hydra on December 25, 2016, 04:58:19 AM
Who wants to go next?
Title: The First Tribes of Wintreath (OOC)
Post by: BraveSirRobin on January 16, 2017, 05:02:57 PM
ME!!  :P