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Title: [PASSED] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Chanku on June 14, 2017, 02:05:23 AM
Quote from: Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Title
1. This act shall be titled the Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act

Amendments
2. Article I, Section 15 of the Fundamental Laws shall be amended to read as follows:
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15. The Storting shall have the authority to interpret these Fundamental Laws and statutory laws in acts of definition. The Storting may also determine how a court of law issues rulings and verdicts in regards to violation of these laws and set punishments for a court of law to use in violations of those laws, within the parameters of these Fundamental Laws and any other laws.

3. Article I, Section 16 shall be rendered null and void with all following sections being renumbered accordingly

4. Article III, Section 1 shall be amended to read as follows:
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1. Upon the filing of cases within the Storting, the Monarch shall select at random a Peer of the Overhusen and two Skrifa of the Underhusen to serve as Justices in a judicial panel, provided the selected person is not the Plaintiff or Defendant. The Peer shall serve as Chief Justice, and the Skrifa shall serve as Associate Justices. The Monarch is ineligible to serve on judicial panels.

5. Article III shall gain a new section, numbered Section 5, which shall read as follows:
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5. A Judicial Panel shall have the authority to interpret these Fundamental Laws and statutory laws and consider the constitutionality over laws brought before the Panel, determine rulings and verdicts in regard to violations of these laws, and determine punishments for violations of these laws within the parameters of these Fundamental Laws and any other laws.

6. Article III shall gain a new section, numbered Section 6, which shall read as follows:
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6. A Judicial Panel shall have the authority to issue advisory opinions on matters of constitutionality and legality to anyone who has been determined to have standing to seek an advisory opinion.

I hereby present this to the Underhusen for Debate. Debate shall last for forty-eight (48) hours, unless expedited, after which it will be open for any motion. All of these motions, except tabling, requires a second to pass. Tabling requires three skrifa to second the motion to table, other than myself unless the Underhusen is equally divided in a motion to table.
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Mathyland on June 14, 2017, 03:45:59 PM
The first two quotes are just slightly different wordings that are better than the old ones.

I like the last two quotes as well because they clarify who has the right to interpret the laws of Wintreath when court is in session (not that that happens mich anyway).
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Mathyland on June 16, 2017, 03:36:53 AM
48 hours so far with no discussion... :\
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Chanku on June 16, 2017, 03:53:01 AM
I would like to point out that this is not the first time this bill has been introduced into the Underhusen, the first time it died because of a lack of activity. Some of the people from that session are in this session, so there may be a lack of need to discuss it. Although I would like for the Citizenry to weigh in on this, and I would like it if the secretary of the Underhusen, @Gattoartico , would place a copy of this bill in the Citizen's Platform.
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Arenado on June 16, 2017, 09:39:39 AM
I have no problem with this. Besides, if no one is mentioned no one will debate, Mr Speaker.
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Chanku on June 16, 2017, 08:03:17 PM
I would argue that it is the Skrifa's responsibility to do that, as they are the ones that ran. After all the UH functioned well for a while prior to mentioning became a thing.
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Gattoartico on June 16, 2017, 08:09:51 PM
I'm going to put it in the citizens platform right now.
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Chanku on June 16, 2017, 08:27:44 PM
Thank-you.

While the speaker normally refrains from doing this, I motion to extend debate for another forty-eight hours to allow the public to comment.
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Gattoartico on June 16, 2017, 08:33:38 PM
Do you want me to post this whole chunk?

Quote from: Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Title
1. This act shall be titled the Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act

Amendments
2. Article I, Section 15 of the Fundamental Laws shall be amended to read as follows:
Quote
15. The Storting shall have the authority to interpret these Fundamental Laws and statutory laws in acts of definition. The Storting may also determine how a court of law issues rulings and verdicts in regards to violation of these laws and set punishments for a court of law to use in violations of those laws, within the parameters of these Fundamental Laws and any other laws.

3. Article I, Section 16 shall be rendered null and void with all following sections being renumbered accordingly

4. Article III, Section 1 shall be amended to read as follows:
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1. Upon the filing of cases within the Storting, the Monarch shall select at random a Peer of the Overhusen and two Skrifa of the Underhusen to serve as Justices in a judicial panel, provided the selected person is not the Plaintiff or Defendant. The Peer shall serve as Chief Justice, and the Skrifa shall serve as Associate Justices. The Monarch is ineligible to serve on judicial panels.

5. Article III shall gain a new section, numbered Section 5, which shall read as follows:
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5. A Judicial Panel shall have the authority to interpret these Fundamental Laws and statutory laws and consider the constitutionality over laws brought before the Panel, determine rulings and verdicts in regard to violations of these laws, and determine punishments for violations of these laws within the parameters of these Fundamental Laws and any other laws.

6. Article III shall gain a new section, numbered Section 6, which shall read as follows:
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6. A Judicial Panel shall have the authority to issue advisory opinions on matters of constitutionality and legality to anyone who has been determined to have standing to seek an advisory opinion.

Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Chanku on June 16, 2017, 08:38:51 PM
yes
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Mathyland on June 17, 2017, 04:27:59 PM
I second that motion from Chanku to extend debate.
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Chanku on June 17, 2017, 09:21:17 PM
The motion passes and debate will continue until 12:27 PM Eastern on June 19th, 2017
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Arenado on June 19, 2017, 10:16:04 PM
It is June 20th. Any thoughts about debating or extending or even bringing this to a vote, anyone?
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Mathyland on June 19, 2017, 10:32:22 PM
We've tried to discuss this, but nobody seems to want to, even the citizens. I motion to vote just so we can get this over with. It doesn't seem like any discussion will happen no matter how long we wait.
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Arenado on June 19, 2017, 10:50:37 PM
Second.
Title: [DISCUSSION] Fundamental Laws Justice and Legislation Revision Act
Post by: Chanku on June 19, 2017, 11:17:38 PM
Motion passes and this heads to a vote