I have many, many puppets and I will put them all into one faction. That faction will probably be Wintreath's depending on how many people join our faction. I don't remember how old a nation has to be to participate in the nuclear war, but hopefully 5 days because I created more puppets as soon as this appeared on the news. I have about 20 puppets that I know for sure will be able to participate in the war.I did that last time... just kept creating more and more Chrome profiles so I could log into all my puppets. (IIRC I ended up with 10 profiles, so including incognito mode that's 20 puppets. Yeah I didn't realize how many puppets I had until I tried to log into all of them at once lol.)
Do we currently have a faction already made?I'm pretty sure you can't make a faction until the event starts. All regional officers are allowed to make one, though.
I'm sure you heard on the fake news page (https://www.nationstates.net/page=news)
I'm capable of deploying like five or eight puppets, but probs not too much more than that!Well, I like my strategy from last time...
Should we go defensive or offensive?
I really hope this event becomes an annual thing (or even more often). The zombie apocalypse should stay as well.
I'd say I did great during the apocalypse! My faction was 70th place, and it was completely made out of 14 of my puppets (I knew making all those puppets would pay off one day! :P). I picked off some weak factions of single nations and I killed about 22 nations. I got to 50th place for most nukes because I had 2,200 total. Then, NATO attacked my faction and completely destroyed it because they had 300 nations. I fired all my nukes at them (and killed 4 of them) and used all my shields, and I survived for awhile. All of my nations were targeted, so I couldn't get them out, but through some strategizing I managed to get 3 nations out before everything was annihilated. It took about an hour for them to actually destroy me with everyone targeting me, so I think I did well. After awhile, I joined back with my three nations (that had 96-98% radiation), but someone from NATO noticed me and destroyed them all. :(
I like to think of it like I was so good and important that the third best faction (at the time) was attacking me. And you might be wondering why the North Atlantic Treaty Organization was attacking me without being provoked, and that is probably because my faction name was "Kill 'em Dead." So I was killed because that was my faction name XD.All the Puppets!(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkXMJARs.png&hash=8120a0ac897814c96005312404c3c034)The Countries I Destroyed Before NATO Came(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5fVsl9g.png&hash=b707f0bcce8608c91809b348491d9d49)Me in 50th place for most nukes(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpbmUbBi.png&hash=ca3089e06b3856cc7040eabaca677ff3)Me in 73rd place (I didn't get a screenshot of me in 70th place)(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXY70drE.png%3F1&hash=e34d2e9998d532bc6dec484722adba06)
I'm from NH. I'm willing to take part in this.Welcome to Wintreath! Looking forward to doing N-Day with you and our other friends in NH. :)
Do you want to build a (nuclear) stockpile?
If you've read the news page, you know about the N-Day event that's starting later today! We in Wintreath are planning to participate by creating our own factions as soon as possible after the event starts. If you want to join in the game with us, just join up and join in with the rest of our nations. If you're not familiar with the event, just check out the links below:
Forum Planning Topic: http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=4677.0
N-Day: What You Need to Know Dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=874170
Hope you can join us and have some fun with your region-mates!
-Winter
join my faction losersHERETIC
http://www.nationstates.net/page=faction/fid=2
nothiin personnnel kidjoin my faction losersHERETIC
http://www.nationstates.net/page=faction/fid=2
Who do we target?Now there, this isn't the time to be making enemies.
CURRENT ORDERS:
Military Specialists: Build Nukes
Strategic Specialists: Build Shields
Economic Specialists: Build Shields
Do not target anyone unless targeted first.
Fair enough, mate. I'm a strategic specialist, so I'll just stick to making shields, I guessI've gotten bad luck. No Strategic Specialists so far at all.
I'd make anyone targeting us a priority...playing defense might be a good idea until we get a lot of nations.I won't be able to do much, sorry. Am quite busy, just helping set things up right now.
I'm going to be away for the next hour or so, but in the meantime I appoint @Gerrick and @taulover as people who can lead our efforts as well.
Here's what I put on our faction page:I would suggest putting a "(mostly)" in the front of all of them. We don't want to be suddenly lacking nukes, or vice versa.QuoteCURRENT ORDERS:
Military Specialists: Build Nukes
Strategic Specialists: Build Shields
Economic Specialists: Build Shields
Do not target anyone unless targeted first.
Sound good?
Should we be Shielding people in other regions @Gerrick @Wintermoot?I don't know, should we?
If not, maybe put that in the Orders as well.
BLOOD! BLOOOOD! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Well, you're pretty much dead, anyway. That's what happens when everyone just randomly nukes everyone. You make a lot of enemies.doesn't matter, i nuked a hippie
BLOOD! BLOOOOD! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
FOOLS! NO MAN CAN KILL ME! I AM A GOD AMONG YE! BOW DOWN AND BEG I DO NOT SMITE THEE ON THE SPOT!BLOOD! BLOOOOD! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I sent you a present!
It's my gift to you as a supporter of his holiness.
FOOLS! NO MAN CAN KILL ME! I AM A GOD AMONG YE! BOW DOWN AND BEG I DO NOT SMITE THEE ON THE SPOT!BLOOD! BLOOOOD! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I sent you a present!
It's my gift to you as a supporter of his holiness.
THREE NUKES FOR THREE TREASONS THOU HATH CONSPIRED! DEATH TO THE WINTER, INTO THE SUN WE RIDE!FOOLS! NO MAN CAN KILL ME! I AM A GOD AMONG YE! BOW DOWN AND BEG I DO NOT SMITE THEE ON THE SPOT!BLOOD! BLOOOOD! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I sent you a present!
It's my gift to you as a supporter of his holiness.
Your 3 nukes were very threatening.
Very threatening.
FOOLS! NO MAN CAN KILL ME! I AM A GOD AMONG YE! BOW DOWN AND BEG I DO NOT SMITE THEE ON THE SPOT!BLOOD! BLOOOOD! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I sent you a present!
It's my gift to you as a supporter of his holiness.
Your 3 nukes were very threatening.
Very threatening.
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F022%2F819%2Filived.jpg&hash=ffe9292cc7afdd3610fa0248cc7e7173)FOOLS! NO MAN CAN KILL ME! I AM A GOD AMONG YE! BOW DOWN AND BEG I DO NOT SMITE THEE ON THE SPOT!BLOOD! BLOOOOD! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I sent you a present!
It's my gift to you as a supporter of his holiness.
Your 3 nukes were very threatening.
Very threatening.
Let's see how many out of my 48 against him survive. :'D
look at who's sending 1 of them dummy ;)
Fuck off, I want to make it poeticlook at who's sending 1 of them dummy ;)
Yeah, I blocked it. I'm not letting you off the hook that easily. :P
Fuck off, I want to make it poeticlook at who's sending 1 of them dummy ;)
Yeah, I blocked it. I'm not letting you off the hook that easily. :P
Eat shit, I'll nuke myself and I don't fucking need your permission.Fuck off, I want to make it poeticlook at who's sending 1 of them dummy ;)
Yeah, I blocked it. I'm not letting you off the hook that easily. :P
Nah dude. You'll get killed by either myself or Romulan Star Empire. Whichever of us strikes first.
You can do as you wish, provided you survive that launch. :PHAHAHA! Looks like my disorganized coalition of conspirators helped me out!
You can do as you wish, provided you survive that launch. :PHAHAHA! Looks like my disorganized coalition of conspirators helped me out!
Honestly I'm very impressed with myself that we were an early leader for a little bit even though we had no plan whatsoever. It was just pure spite and petty hatred balled up into one entity.You can do as you wish, provided you survive that launch. :PHAHAHA! Looks like my disorganized coalition of conspirators helped me out!
Yes, well let's hope they don't shield your own strike as well. :P
How are we doing? Do we need a real-time chat?Are there any chats active currently or nah?
You got to it first, Tau. :PAlternatively I could just nuke someone at random...
Please don't, that's how we died last time.You got to it first, Tau. :PAlternatively I could just nuke someone at random...
We have a causus belli on United Free AllianceThey're larger than us though, and allied with the UDS, so I'd be wary about going on the offensive unless they actually start attacking us in large numbers.
Can we ally with TNP?We have a causus belli on United Free AllianceThey're larger than us though, and allied with the UDS, so I'd be wary about going on the offensive unless they actually start attacking us in large numbers.
No idea.Can we ally with TNP?We have a causus belli on United Free AllianceThey're larger than us though, and allied with the UDS, so I'd be wary about going on the offensive unless they actually start attacking us in large numbers.
Sure. I don't know how to do that, though.No idea.Can we ally with TNP?We have a causus belli on United Free AllianceThey're larger than us though, and allied with the UDS, so I'd be wary about going on the offensive unless they actually start attacking us in large numbers.
Holy shit, all the big factions already have non-aggression pacts and everything.
@Wintermoot @Gerrick thoughts?
Maybe we could start off with talks to TRR, since we have treaties in NS?Sure. I don't know how to do that, though.No idea.Can we ally with TNP?We have a causus belli on United Free AllianceThey're larger than us though, and allied with the UDS, so I'd be wary about going on the offensive unless they actually start attacking us in large numbers.
Holy shit, all the big factions already have non-aggression pacts and everything.
@Wintermoot @Gerrick thoughts?
Indeed. TNP is part of UPPERCUT, which is essentially invinvible...Maybe we could start off with talks to TRR, since we have treaties in NS?Sure. I don't know how to do that, though.No idea.Can we ally with TNP?We have a causus belli on United Free AllianceThey're larger than us though, and allied with the UDS, so I'd be wary about going on the offensive unless they actually start attacking us in large numbers.
Holy shit, all the big factions already have non-aggression pacts and everything.
@Wintermoot @Gerrick thoughts?
Also, a suggestion: perhaps we could also add instructions not to attack large factions in the orders?
Edit: wait, TNP is part of the largest faction
On a sidenote, can I just say that it's amusing that the game insists that my Heaven nation is a Military Specialist and should stockpile nukes? I for sure thought it was going to be a Strategic Specialist. :))RNGsus works in mysterious ways.
"Welcome to Heaven, the universe's #1 provider for nuclear winter."
Yeah, I'll leave alliances/diplomacy to @Wintermoot or @BraveSirRobin .Sounds good to me. Just make sure we don't accidentally provoke any larger organizations.
Should I just start setting targets for factions with 2 or 3 nations? Wipe one out then move to the next?
I have a puppet in Osiris. The top 2 factions are currently negotiating non aggression. We need to start doing something about these pacts, because the bigger groups are gonna keep getting momentum, and we won't be able to stop it.It's literally impossible to compete with the biggest groups. The best we can do is do relatively well on the scoreboards.
I have a puppet in Osiris. The top 2 factions are currently negotiating non aggression. We need to start doing something about these pacts, because the bigger groups are gonna keep getting momentum, and we won't be able to stop it.It's literally impossible to compete with the biggest groups. The best we can do is do relatively well on the scoreboards.
And doing well on the scoreboards is a lot easier, as I proved.I have a puppet in Osiris. The top 2 factions are currently negotiating non aggression. We need to start doing something about these pacts, because the bigger groups are gonna keep getting momentum, and we won't be able to stop it.It's literally impossible to compete with the biggest groups. The best we can do is do relatively well on the scoreboards.
Doing well on the scoreboard is easy. It's staying there that's hard.And doing well on the scoreboards is a lot easier, as I proved.I have a puppet in Osiris. The top 2 factions are currently negotiating non aggression. We need to start doing something about these pacts, because the bigger groups are gonna keep getting momentum, and we won't be able to stop it.It's literally impossible to compete with the biggest groups. The best we can do is do relatively well on the scoreboards.
This faction gave me all of my points (https://www.nationstates.net/page=faction/fid=161), but then a larger faction came in and destroyed me. :(
I just saw that there's a nation called "gayville" in the Potato Alliance. :))
That should be Wintermoot or someone else in our region!
Also, we're at -1,501 points :\
Is it possible to kick members of a faction? Kick dite, before he gets us into trouble.Unfortunately you can't.
Goddamn this guy Dite keeps attacking the AA with all of his puppets.I TG'd him telling him to stop
Goddamn this guy Dite keeps attacking the AA with all of his puppets.I TG'd him telling him to stop
Do we need to apologize to the AA or nah?
It's not letting me join the faction on my puppet that is in the region.Nevermind; I just forgot to leave my old faction
Also, Coco is Pengu again! :))
For something that seems to be running itself, we're doing pretty well it seems. :)
Sorry I haven't been as involved as I'd like to be...this event just came at a shit time for me and for the region. I'm still stockpiling though and firing shields when I see things incoming though.
Uhm...can someone TG Falata?Block their firing!!
Whoever they are, they're going after a nation in a faction of 1020 nations.
That's not the problem.Can we nuke our own teammate?
If they continue to attack these bigger factions, regardless of our actions...those factions will attack back.
Considering "Totally Not the AA" has already retaliated once, I really don't want to see them and the Syberian faction overwhelm us.
East/West Whatever that is is going to get us killed
Indeed. I've assured all the nations with targets that Dite is doing this on purpose, and that we'll shoot down any missiles they launch before they need to be shot down by them.East/West Whatever that is is going to get us killed
Yes. Yes he is. And I think he's doing this on purpose.
If they only target him, I say let them. We might lose some points, but that's better than the alternative.
The problem is he has multiple puppets. Who's to say he won't make more when his nations get shot down?Then let them target those too. My guess is if he doesn't make much headway and he's only here to antagonize, he'll get bored and give up.
The problem is he has multiple puppets. Who's to say he won't make more when his nations get shot down?Then let them target those too. My guess is if he doesn't make much headway and he's only here to antagonize, he'll get bored and give up.
Yes, well it's not just him. Madsoon keeps attacking larger sized regions as well.What's the alternative? Look like we're defending those antagonist so those bigger factions attack all of us?
It's not fair to let our score take a hit and drop because of some people who think attacking a bigger faction is a good idea.
Yes, well it's not just him. Madsoon keeps attacking larger sized regions as well.What's the alternative? Look like we're defending those antagonist so those bigger factions attack all of us?
It's not fair to let our score take a hit and drop because of some people who think attacking a bigger faction is a good idea.
They really should introduce kicking from factions
Or try to reason with them. Block the idiots' attacks as well as block the other faction's counter attacks and try to come to some agreement.If the situation is that reasonable, why are we worried about all getting killed, then? :P
The people they're attacking have over 30,000 shields. It's not like they're hurting, and launching a counter attack because of some moron isn't necessary.
Or try to reason with them. Block the idiots' attacks as well as block the other faction's counter attacks and try to come to some agreement.If the situation is that reasonable, why are we worried about all getting killed, then? :P
The people they're attacking have over 30,000 shields. It's not like they're hurting, and launching a counter attack because of some moron isn't necessary.
Because there's always the off chance that they won't listen? :PYou would think reason would go a lot further on a political simulator than it actually does...
Because there's always the off chance that they won't listen? :PYou would think reason would go a lot further on a political simulator than it actually does...
WHY IS A NEW HYPERION PERSON ATTACKING TOTALLY NOT AA?!I told him to cancel the attack, and here's what he said:
I'm sorry. Getting competitive. I'm nuking weak nation,it will be fine,this will be the last problem,I promise.Goddamn.
Who is in charge of our faction screen btw?I've been updating it, but any regional officer can.
Wintreath ally or something. Also I think it's better left vague and unconvincing. Harder for AA to catch on and retaliate en Masse that way.No, like the bot is flagging you as E/M/S specialist or Diplomat.
So did you leave the faction description intentionally vague? Because I was on the verge of changing it to directly say "attack not the AA."Looks like they made a truce with the AA. They updated they faction page.
Yep, got an announcement on the Discord:So did you leave the faction description intentionally vague? Because I was on the verge of changing it to directly say "attack not the AA."Looks like they made a truce with the AA. They updated they faction page.
in true 1984 style we are friends with Totally not the AA again. Cease all attacks on them immediately.Hopefully that also means that the AA also doesn't attack us too? Though we should probably talk with them to be sure.
Shall we re-gear and resume the attack? UPPERCUT is currently gunning for Jak Attack...Yup, we've been blasting away on Jak Attack for the past couple hours. :D
So Jak Attack is winding to a close... do we have any other plans?Maybe wait to see what our allies do next? If not, just go back to destroying small factions, I guess.
I don't know, but The Triple Blade Syndicate and East/Weste/South Dite are back at attacking the AA.I guess this is why there's an option to restrict factions to your region only.
:PSome huge factions have a Top 10 policy instead though.
Good news! Top 15 now so most of the huge factions won't kill us!! :D
Ok just destroyed ~340 nukes. Good news: no radiation gained. Bad news: I'm almost out of shields. Someone else shall have to take the defence.I'm fairly busy (in a class right now), but I do have quite a few shields to spare. Will check the Targeted and Incoming screens regularly.
Yeah. I would have defended him as well, but I dunno why he keeps attacking the big factions...let alone one of our allies. <_<Either an idiot or a plant. Though given how strong diplomacy seems to be among the large factions now, that doesn't work anymore.
Well we seem to have a few of them. Multonia is another one. <_<Yeah. I would have defended him as well, but I dunno why he keeps attacking the big factions...let alone one of our allies. <_<Either an idiot or a plant. Though given how strong diplomacy seems to be among the large factions now, that doesn't work anymore.
He's literally a nation in the UDS, attacking the UDS faction to provoke them.Well we seem to have a few of them. Multonia is another one. <_<Yeah. I would have defended him as well, but I dunno why he keeps attacking the big factions...let alone one of our allies. <_<Either an idiot or a plant. Though given how strong diplomacy seems to be among the large factions now, that doesn't work anymore.
He's being targeted, I say just let him be destroyed.But our Radiation count looks so nice right now though
He's literally a nation in the UDS, attacking the UDS faction to provoke them.Well we seem to have a few of them. Multonia is another one. <_<Yeah. I would have defended him as well, but I dunno why he keeps attacking the big factions...let alone one of our allies. <_<Either an idiot or a plant. Though given how strong diplomacy seems to be among the large factions now, that doesn't work anymore.
Edit: Should we talk to the UDS on Discord about this?
Someone's targeting Mathyland 0. :PThey're 17th place, maybe defend but ignore unless they keep targeting us?
Sure.Someone's targeting Mathyland 0. :PThey're 17th place, maybe defend but ignore unless they keep targeting us?
Should we let Third Harmonic Concordat the same thing with Awitha? It was literally founded by the same region that Awitha is actually from.Please do (I can't I'm busy now).
Why the hell is AA targeting us?!
We need A LOT of shields
I can handle Winter Alliance alone. I started working on them so I would not collide with others from our faction.Damn these people have a shit ton of puppets.
The thing is he's right: he can probably deplete all our shields by himself.
Have we looked to Uppercut for aid? They're probably not interested though.
I've PM-d Pallaith twice but so far no response :/The thing is he's right: he can probably deplete all our shields by himself.
Have we looked to Uppercut for aid? They're probably not interested though.
They're busy dealing with their own continuous attack by AA, I doubt they'll help.
And an order from August after his puppet attacks have kinda failed:Corcetia has been retargeting them with nukes.
"Winter is resisting more than I expected. Take em down boys"
Well I've updated the op to reflect the change in our strategic circumstances...Updated it even more
I guess we're going to see how much we can hold out in the next 25 minutes (I presume missiles launched in the ten minutes after that won't reach before the event ends).Shit, I have a quiz coming up in ten minutes so my shields will be out of commission for the end
AND UPPERCUT COMES TO AID!!!Source says that AA may divert to Uppercut
*meanwhile 13,000 nukes targeted on AA*yeah but they have a shit ton of shields
AA has ordered launch all loose nukes at idJokes on them they can only launch the ones that were already there and we have enough shields
11th Place! Holy cow guys!! :D
Good job people! Now, let's plan for next time! :DThere were definitely people who were trying that this time. Even in our faction, there were quite a plants trying to provoke other regions into attacking us. The thing is, as diplomacy becomes more stable, this becomes increasingly more difficult.
Seriously though, I have a partial plan idea I might use next time:confidential planHave 100 or more puppets (some with completely different names), put some in the highest ranking factions and have them attack each other so that those factions destroy each other. This might work on some factions if I can get many puppets in each region that seem unrelated to attack each other. Then with the other puppets, join Wintreath and try to help us get in the top ten.
Yeah I had to exercise some MAJOR blitz-diplomacy last time. We'd have been so dead to the AA if UPPERCUT wasn't our ally.Good job people! Now, let's plan for next time! :DThere were definitely people who were trying that this time. Even in our faction, there were quite a plants trying to provoke other regions into attacking us. The thing is, as diplomacy becomes more stable, this becomes increasingly more difficult.
Seriously though, I have a partial plan idea I might use next time:confidential planHave 100 or more puppets (some with completely different names), put some in the highest ranking factions and have them attack each other so that those factions destroy each other. This might work on some factions if I can get many puppets in each region that seem unrelated to attack each other. Then with the other puppets, join Wintreath and try to help us get in the top ten.
In the next one, I think that we should focus on not having such loose communications, better diplomacy, more aggressive strategies and way more puppets.Yeah. AA had like five people with LOADS of puppets each as well as others once they got high in the scoreboard (leapfroggers).
In the next one, I think that we should focus on not having such loose communications, better diplomacy, more aggressive strategies and way more puppets.I have several dozen puppets but intentionally did not field them all (unlike last time) because I didn't have the time (busy school day and all).