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  • Alas, I cannot think of a particular solution to that. Do you have any ideas?
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  • I mean, certainly in my case if not others' - it's finals season, y'all, stuff is just gonna naturally take a back seat to school in a community as high-school-to-college-aged-dominated as NS.
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  • Also, Happy Labour Day Ya'll.
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  • I mean, certainly in my case if not others' - it's finals season, y'all, stuff is just gonna naturally take a back seat to school in a community as high-school-to-college-aged-dominated as NS.
    I'm always a bit weary when someone says they're too busy with other stuff to do something.

    To be honest, I think people have a tendency to throw out that they're too busy because they feel overwhelmed or they would rather be doing other things with their free time. You wouldn't believe the people over the years who have told me they're too busy to do the bare minimum of their positions, but had dozens if not hundreds of hours logged on Steam playing games in the two weeks prior to them telling me that. For what it's worth, I don't think it's usually intentional. I'm not saying it's impossible for someone to not have enough time, but I'd bet if people really examined why they haven't tackled something they need or say they want to do, it probably has more to do with focus and motivation than literally not having enough time.

    I'm not above it, either...now that I realize this, I make an effort to truly examine why I'm not doing something I need or claim to want to do, but sometimes I still fall in that trap. I think I recently said I've always been too busy to learn how to RP or to write a story...the truth is probably more that those are things I'd like to do, but not enough to have ever dedicated the time and energy to learn/do them.

    Again, I'm not saying it's absolutely impossible for someone to not have enough time. When it comes to the UH, I can understand an officer feeling pressed for time, given that they have responsibilities that go above and beyond just discussing and voting on legislation, but I'm less understanding when it comes to regular Skrifa. It's 15 minutes a day at most, and usually not even that.

    And for what it's worth, despite everything your personal performance in both the UH and Cabinet have been outstanding. You're a credit to our government and community. :)

    Also, Happy Labour Day Ya'll.
    I think Labor Day is in September here, but thanks! You too. :)
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  • The UH has a way of making even the most hard-working, proactive people demoralised and/or underwhelmed with the mindnumbing monotony of it all, and the types of bills that come up there.

    Sometimes, an actual thing worthy of discussion happens, and even then, shit gets toxic so goddamned quickly that people would rather just not deal with the political bullshit that happens there.

    To be clear (as I can imagine Chanku already sharpening the castration knives), I'm not stating that's a problem inherent to the UH, or that the UH isn't necesarry. I am saying that, most of the time, it's doing busywork to give itself the illusion of getting shit done, and the other times, it's being way too political in a region that consists mainly of people trying to get away from the general bullshit NS politics.
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  • The UH has a way of making even the most hard-working, proactive people demoralised and/or underwhelmed with the mindnumbing monotony of it all, and the types of bills that come up there.

    Sometimes, an actual thing worthy of discussion happens, and even then, shit gets toxic so goddamned quickly that people would rather just not deal with the political bullshit that happens there.

    To be clear (as I can imagine Chanku already sharpening the castration knives), I'm not stating that's a problem inherent to the UH, or that the UH isn't necesarry. I am saying that, most of the time, it's doing busywork to give itself the illusion of getting shit done, and the other times, it's being way too political in a region that consists mainly of people trying to get away from the general bullshit NS politics.
    I think those are all fair points, and it goes back to motivation and focus. As it so happens, I've been receiving a lot of material on time management lately, and one of the articles says this:

    Unless the person has extremely low energy, even the laziest people still find time to surf the web, play games or socialize with friends. A lot of lazy people aren’t really lacking willpower, just some motivation. Without a compelling drive, being disciplined just makes you look busy to outside observers when you really aren’t getting anything done. Laziness only becomes apparent because without a strong drive, slothful people stop doing just about anything not necessary for survival or enjoyment.

    Personally I don't think it's just about lazy people, but people in general. It could be that Chanku for example is usually on top of things in the UH because of her interest in legislative matters (seemingly no matter how obscure or dull they are, lol), her reputation as Wintreath's foremost legal expert, and her standing as the most involved member of the UH over the history of the region. But most people aren't going to have things like that motivating them, so what about the UH could interest or excite the people that are in it? That may be a more relevant question than merely asking how to make the UH more active.

    I don't know what to say when it comes to toxicity...I don't think it's usually a problem, but I'm not sure if that's because usually the UH does a better job of restraining themselves or because the UH rarely takes on issues where there's a strong difference of opinion or the possibility of the debate becoming personal.
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  • I'm not stating that's a problem inherent to the UH, or that the UH isn't necesarry.

    no, no, i've been doing political theater this whole time to highlight that it isn't necessary, god dammit i need you with me on this we have to burn down the UH
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  • Also, Happy Labour Day Ya'll.
    I think Labor Day is in September here, but thanks! You too. :)
    Fun fact: US's Labor Day was made official instead of May Day/International Workers' Day because of its origination as a commemoration of the Haymarket affair/massacre and thus its association with labor and socialist movements.
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  • Huh, I figured everyone else would have Labour day on the same day.

    Also, yes, the UH can get very, very, very unpleasant to be in.
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  • Other than Chanku's commendation attempt and the second constitutional convention, are there any cases of toxicity in the UH that I'm forgetting?


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  • Too many to list concisely.

    EDIT: But just a few other noteworthy ones: literally every single attempt at revitalising the court system, the various Gov discussions, a shit-load of decisions by various Speakers that were brought into question (most noteworthy being Chanku, but not him alone by a damn sight)... really, the list can go on indefinitely. I'm probably not even able to remember all the times.
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    « Last Edit: May 02, 2019, 08:43:03 PM by Laurentus »
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  • Too many to list concisely.
    It seems I've blocked most of them out, then. :P
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  • I edited my previous post.
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  • I edited my previous post.
    Oh, most of those are from long, long ago, and you have to admit, the most toxic thing about the Gov discussions was usually Gov himself. :P
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  • There were various things recently, too. I shan't name names. I did have a hand in some of them myself.
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