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This book is is coming out on Tuesday, and from the excerpts that have come out so far it's looking to be the blamefest everyone thought it'd be.

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What are your thoughts? Do you plan on reading the book?

*sigh* Oh, Hillary. Just disappear already.

Should have disappeared after 2007

She learned all the wrong things from her failure, if those two excerpts are fair representations of the rest of the book.  You don't win an election by saying you are better than someone else.  You win by demonstrating the superiority of your ideas and how they would help the country, not by complaining that someone else's ideas are bigger and grander.  At least if you're a Democrat.  You have to inspire the base, not spend your time collecting huge donations from large corporations and banks.

This is representative of the attitude of neoliberals in general; Curse every Trump voter's family, curse Leftists, curse Bernie, curse everyone except Clinton and themselves.

They had a corrupt imperialist as their candidate, whose only platform was that she deserved to be President. And as a result, they lost the American public's favor over a racist demagogue with no political experience whatsoever. At the very least, I hope this eventually paves the way for the Neoliberals's demise as the ideological leader of the DNC and actual left wing democratic socialists can take charge.

Disappointing to see her pushing the "Bernie Bro" thing. As if only men voted for Sanders, or all women were expected to vote for her in the primary. Though I can see why any woman should support her or just about anyone else over sexist Trump, there were good reasons for women to support Sanders, and there were a lot of us Bernie Sisters, not just Bros.

And for the rest... if I remember right, when Clinton came in second to Obama, Obama chose a very pro-Clinton side running mate, and made Clinton Secretary of State to set her up for her next run. What did Clinton do for Sanders to earn the same loyalty when he came in second?

Here's to hoping she doesn't try running again in the future, because if anyone was hesitant on her in the first place...that whole blame game story is pretty much just a final nail in the coffin that she'll never be elected.

If she didn't try to cheat Bernie out of the primaries, be such a two-faced secretive type of person that couldn't even own up to her mistakes (aka the whole email debacle)...and overall just be generally unlikable when she wasn't trying to be "hip" and "with it" (which was cringe-worthy at best), then she MAY have had a chance.  This had nothing to do with anyone else but her the entire time.

I will say, it also didn't help that SNL...a widely known program, was so vehemently PRO Hilary/ANTI Trump to where Hilary herself was even on an episode and gave a cringe-worthy performance (and bashing Trump).  As amusing as Kate McKinnon and Alec Baldwin are in their respective roles, I'm pretty sure some of those performance (especially the aforementioned Hilary appearance episode) rubbed people the wrong way.

I'll also say that if it wasn't for that FBI announcement moments before the polls opened she MAY have stood more of a chance, as I do believe that played a part in her downward-spiral of votes.

So yes, she may have had a couple of things that actually did work against her...but her main problem in why she didn't win really just boils down to the fact that she's just generally shady and unlikable, and more people are starting to see that. 

I don't know that she's actually shady. I don't think she's done anything that most other politicians don't do, it's just that she's become really defensive and closed-off from decades of attacks against her, which makes it difficult for her to really connect with people...something you kinda need to be able to do if you're running for political office. In fairness, I believe she would have been a fine president, though hardly a charismatic or inspirational one.

The problem here is that everyone knows her primary ambition for the last two decades has been to become president, and that didn't happen and she's obviously still bitter about it. To some extent I can understand...she went from being the inevitable winner to barely losing against one of the least popular candidates in history other than herself, in an election where she actually got the most votes. That sort of loss would be soul-crushing to anybody, and having it be so close invites all sorts of what-if scenarios.

But writing this book now was a mistake, and isn't going to do her or any future ambitions she has any favours. Maybe it would have been alright in a few years, when 2016 was further in the past and she had more time to reflect on what happened...but without that time it's obvious she's writing from a place of bitterness rather than reflection, and still wants to put most of the blame on other people.

Contrast that with Bernie Sanders, who could have written his own book on the primary and blamed all sorts of people and entities, but instead is still out there, travelling the country, pushing for the things he believes in, and building his influence so he can better get them done. Are we ever going to see Hillary do that, or does she have to be running for president to work for a cause?

That's what it boils down to...she needs to let the presidency go and find a good cause she can devote her time and energy and influence to, rather than rehashing 2016 over and over again.

I don't know that she's actually shady. I don't think she's done anything that most other politicians don't do, it's just that she's become really defensive and closed-off from decades of attacks against her, which makes it difficult for her to really connect with people.

But that was her biggest issue and what made the whole thing shady.  If she had been up front with people and not been so deflective, perhaps people would have been a bit more receptive to her.  Instead, we had to suffer through investigation upon investigation because she she had denied that she was hiding anything and denied that she had been apart of any emails...even as the evidence was amassing wildly stating the obvious.

If she had taken ownership of it, there wouldn't have been investigations.  Trump wouldn't have had to make it part of his "crooked Hilary" campaign, outlets like SNL wouldn't have had to make it a running joke, and there would have been no out-of-nowhere last minute announcement by the FBI in the first place.  People would have known already, and yes she'd probably still be a bit under fire, but it wouldn't have been the thing that essentially crucified her in the polls.

Rather than actually trusting the voters, she chose mainly to deflect, deny, and blame everyone else for her own problems, and this book reflects that.  I don't care if it was out of defensiveness because of being ganged up on for past actions (which, you know, some of those she had the choice not to do as well...but politicians and all), you either own up to your mistakes of past and present...or you sink.

And Hilary chose to let herself and her campaign sink as Trump happily coasted along and took the presidency.   Because as much as people hated Trump and his unusual and vulgar behavior...it was clear that people hated Hilary and her deflective defensive personality more.

Isn't it pretty clear at this point that the DNC conspired to ensure that Hillary won the primary? She's accusing Bernie of being the reason that she lost, and maybe he's a big part of it to be honest, but only because he presented such a clear contrast... We have one hand, a candidate that has the DNC's approval who constantly switches opinions like a wind sock, just going wherever the winds of public opinion takes them, and another candidate on record as having taken part in every major civil rights movement and held more or less consistent values throughout that time..

As president, you don't want to just do what the people want, you're in that position because people think you are capable of making good decisions and sticking to them. I don't think Hillary demonstrated that point as well as Bernie did, and it definitely made Hillary look bad. As for Bernie just offering puppies and ponies to a gullible populace.. didn't he run mostly on a platform of campaign finance reform? How was a that a pony or a puppy? How was that unachievable? He had some healthcare plans and some education plans too, and maybe they were less sound, but I really think that he always held campaign finance reform as his highest value. He wanted to stop special interest groups from hijacking democracy. Is there anything in the book about that?

Then, once the primary was over, you had Hillary against Trump, two wind socks both catering and cajoling their constituency into voting for them.. Trump just did a better job at flip flopping at the appropriate times, he didn't win the popular vote, but he did get the votes he needed to win the presidency

I think the passages related in the book that you've shown demonstrate her ability to blame everyone but herself for her failures. She lost, and I blame her, most everyone I know just wants her to disappear, and so do I.

But that was her biggest issue and what made the whole thing shady.  If she had been up front with people and not been so deflective, perhaps people would have been a bit more receptive to her.  Instead, we had to suffer through investigation upon investigation because she she had denied that she was hiding anything and denied that she had been apart of any emails...even as the evidence was amassing wildly stating the obvious.

If she had taken ownership of it, there wouldn't have been investigations.  Trump wouldn't have had to make it part of his "crooked Hilary" campaign, outlets like SNL wouldn't have had to make it a running joke, and there would have been no out-of-nowhere last minute announcement by the FBI in the first place.  People would have known already, and yes she'd probably still be a bit under fire, but it wouldn't have been the thing that essentially crucified her in the polls.

Rather than actually trusting the voters, she chose mainly to deflect, deny, and blame everyone else for her own problems, and this book reflects that.  I don't care if it was out of defensiveness because of being ganged up on for past actions (which, you know, some of those she had the choice not to do as well...but politicians and all), you either own up to your mistakes of past and present...or you sink.

And Hilary chose to let herself and her campaign sink as Trump happily coasted along and took the presidency.   Because as much as people hated Trump and his unusual and vulgar behavior...it was clear that people hated Hilary and her deflective defensive personality more.

If Hillary had done all that after all the attacks she's been through over the years, she probably wouldn't be human. Let's face it, in her position you or I would probably turn out the same way, and while we can rightly fault her as a candidate for so reclusive and defensive, I can't really fault her as a person. And in all honesty, if the emails hadn't ever been a thing, we would've just heard more about Benghazi or some alt-right conspiracy theory like Pizzagate. These narratives didn't take hold because of anything Hillary had done per say, they took hold because a lot of people just don't like her, period.

Speaking of not being liked, I read an article a few days back about how Hillary's approval rating is only 30%...still lower than Trump's. Half the nation wants to lock her up, the other half wants her to disappear...could she be one of the most loathed people in the country?

But that was her biggest issue and what made the whole thing shady.  If she had been up front with people and not been so deflective, perhaps people would have been a bit more receptive to her.  Instead, we had to suffer through investigation upon investigation because she she had denied that she was hiding anything and denied that she had been apart of any emails...even as the evidence was amassing wildly stating the obvious.

If she had taken ownership of it, there wouldn't have been investigations.  Trump wouldn't have had to make it part of his "crooked Hilary" campaign, outlets like SNL wouldn't have had to make it a running joke, and there would have been no out-of-nowhere last minute announcement by the FBI in the first place.  People would have known already, and yes she'd probably still be a bit under fire, but it wouldn't have been the thing that essentially crucified her in the polls.

Rather than actually trusting the voters, she chose mainly to deflect, deny, and blame everyone else for her own problems, and this book reflects that.  I don't care if it was out of defensiveness because of being ganged up on for past actions (which, you know, some of those she had the choice not to do as well...but politicians and all), you either own up to your mistakes of past and present...or you sink.

And Hilary chose to let herself and her campaign sink as Trump happily coasted along and took the presidency.   Because as much as people hated Trump and his unusual and vulgar behavior...it was clear that people hated Hilary and her deflective defensive personality more.

If Hillary had done all that after all the attacks she's been through over the years, she probably wouldn't be human. Let's face it, in her position you or I would probably turn out the same way, and while we can rightly fault her as a candidate for so reclusive and defensive, I can't really fault her as a person. And in all honesty, if the emails hadn't ever been a thing, we would've just heard more about Benghazi or some alt-right conspiracy theory like Pizzagate. These narratives didn't take hold because of anything Hillary had done per say, they took hold because a lot of people just don't like her, period.

Speaking of not being liked, I read an article a few days back about how Hillary's approval rating is only 30%...still lower than Trump's. Half the nation wants to lock her up, the other half wants her to disappear...could she be one of the most loathed people in the country?

No, I won't argue that attacks over the years wouldn't affect me in her position, because yes they would.  But again, that's not reason to hide things.   If you're being bullied, you don't back down and hide in a ball and let it continue.  You take a stand and face them.  Sure you might get hit a bit, but you come out a better person for it because you stood up  and took a stand for what you believe in.  And when you do that, others may even rally to your side because they see you taking a stand.

After all, it's like the saying goes: You can choose to stand together, or die alone.  She had the choice to stand up, face her attackers and trust her supporters to have her back...but she chose to trust she knew best by hiding secrets from them, and so she's facing the consequences.

No, I won't argue that attacks over the years wouldn't affect me in her position, because yes they would.  But again, that's not reason to hide things.   If you're being bullied, you don't back down and hide in a ball and let it continue.  You take a stand and face them.  Sure you might get hit a bit, but you come out a better person for it because you stood up  and took a stand for what you believe in.  And when you do that, others may even rally to your side because they see you taking a stand.

After all, it's like the saying goes: You can choose to stand together, or die alone.  She had the choice to stand up, face her attackers and trust her supporters to have her back...but she chose to trust she knew best by hiding secrets from them, and so she's facing the consequences.

Since when have people ever been reasonable? Our instinctive reaction to things that hurt us is to avoid them or minimize them...perhaps logically you're right, but emotions are hardly logical.

No, I won't argue that attacks over the years wouldn't affect me in her position, because yes they would.  But again, that's not reason to hide things.   If you're being bullied, you don't back down and hide in a ball and let it continue.  You take a stand and face them.  Sure you might get hit a bit, but you come out a better person for it because you stood up  and took a stand for what you believe in.  And when you do that, others may even rally to your side because they see you taking a stand.

After all, it's like the saying goes: You can choose to stand together, or die alone.  She had the choice to stand up, face her attackers and trust her supporters to have her back...but she chose to trust she knew best by hiding secrets from them, and so she's facing the consequences.

Since when have people ever been reasonable? Our instinctive reaction to things that hurt us is to avoid them or minimize them...perhaps logically you're right, but emotions are hardly logical.

But when you're in a position such as hers, you shouldn't be letting your emotions affect you that deeply.

I'd understand it in most positions, but not when you're fighting to be the leader of our country.

And when you have time to tout your accomplishments and boast about what you do, then you have time to work on taking that stand.

But when you're in a position such as hers, you shouldn't be letting your emotions affect you that deeply.

I'd understand it in most positions, but not when you're fighting to be the leader of our country.

And when you have time to tout your accomplishments and boast about what you do, then you have time to work on taking that stand.

Easier said than done. Perhaps she thought she was over it, but didn't anticipate the level and severity of the attacks people would make on her character as a candidate. I guess only she knows what was really going through her mind.

If there's anyone to blame, it's possibly the Democratic Party for knowing (or they should have known) what a weak candidate she was and sticking by her anyways through the primaries. They could have been more impartial with the candidates they had, or done more to encourage a wider field of candidates.