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  • I like this a lot.
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  • My system would be around the same:

    The monarch would be unelected and wield veto power but not be able to exercise absolute authority. They'd of course be able to propose new legislation to the legislative body.

    The World Assembly delegate would be elected on a regular basis. Perhaps every six months?

    The monarch would appoint the ministers of the various cabinet ministries for indefinite periods. When designing my own nations I usually have eight ministries: foreign, home, justice, defence, treasury, environment, welfare, and culture.

    As for the legislative branch, I prefer an elected unicameral body with equal representation for each constituency. Elections would also be every six months or so.

    Finally, for the judiciary branch there would be an unelected panel of x number of justices who would be appointed by the monarch, confirmed by the legislative body, serve indefinitely, and act to uphold the constitution and hear final appeals on various cases from lower courts.

    But honestly, I could live with the current proposal.  :) The above is just my idea of how to run things.
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  • I too would like an elected delegacy, but on a different system. I would rather an elected delegate serve indefinitely, until challenged by another citizen for the job.
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  • I too would like an elected delegacy, but on a different system. I would rather an elected delegate serve indefinitely, until challenged by another citizen for the job.

    So much yes. Only problem is people would challenge the delegacy so often it'd get annoying to go through.
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  • * Wintermoot smashes his foot on elected delegates.

    Sorry guys. :(


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  • Oh well. I'm considering starting work on a draft constitution, but I'd need some exact specifics on how each facet of the government would run instead of just a hodge-podge of both sound and bad ideas floating around in a forum thread.  ;)
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  • Ever considered a tricameral system?

    The first two Houses would be much like the American political system except without the fundamentally flawed electoral system. One is a large discussion body that proposes legislation, the second is a smaller revisionary body, still elected, that reviews the proposed legislature.

    The third body would be a small, unelected chamber of Lords/Jarl's. They serve as the King's advisors, but have a duty to observe proceedings. This means they are the unofficial police-force of the tricameral system, but also ensures a reduction in the bi/tripartisan nature you get in bi/tricameral systems.
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  • Ever considered a tricameral system?

    The first two Houses would be much like the American political system except without the fundamentally flawed electoral system. One is a large discussion body that proposes legislation, the second is a smaller revisionary body, still elected, that reviews the proposed legislature.

    The third body would be a small, unelected chamber of Lords/Jarls. They serve as the King's advisors, but have a duty to observe proceedings. This means they are the unofficial police-force of the tricameral system, but also ensures a reduction in the bi/tripartisan nature you get in bi/tricameral systems.

    That's really complicated...I daresay too much so for what is in the end a roleplaying game.
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  • If we were to go with a fully elected legislature, I would prefer it be unicameral. I know from experience running a much larger region that even then it can be difficult to find enough people wanting to run for election, which makes for an inactive and slow legislature. I'm just not certain we would get enough people to fill two elected houses.

    For that reason, I prefer Charax's system...the one where the Riksråd serves as the upper house of the legislature. In a way, it also allows for the same effect without requiring as many people to fill positions.


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  • I just read through all the posts, so some of my thoughts relate to things that (it appears) are no longer under discussion, but anyway...

    I agree that unicameral legislation is the way to go, simply because of its feasibility in this framework. That said, I think that tricameral system would (if we were a quadruple-digit member group) be ideal.
    The titles in Norwegian were great. I understand why you switched to English for some of them, but abandoning them isn't necessary. For example, "Arving" (a direct translation of "heir") sounds really awesome.
    Lastly, in what situation would we require a judiciary body?
    « Last Edit: November 03, 2013, 05:59:53 PM by kinxer »
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  • In most regions, Judicial bodies interpret the Constitution and serve as jury for civil and criminal trails...civil trails may be in the event someone sues the government for not following the correct procedure, while criminal trails are usually brought by the government for some events...the biggest of which is treason.

    In most regions it's the most inactive portion of the government, which is why I would like to see some changes to how it's structured on here.


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  • Alright here are my ideas on the Judicial System.
    The Judicial System would review anything passed, and make sure it is constitutional, along with it's usual duties.

    Also keep in mind that this assumes three judges, if there are more then adjust as necessary.
    However One would be selected by the King
    One would be Selected by the The Upper House
    One would be selected by the Lower House.

    Should there be two judges then the Legislature needs to choose a judge.

    In Order to remove a Judge, The motion needs to be started in the Lower House, when the Lower house votes on it(only needs the lower house to pass it), it goes to the king, if the kings accepts the Judge can be removed, however if he doesn't then it can be voted on with only the upper house needing to pass it, if it still isn't passed then the lower house can re-vote and if they get a unanimous vote then it succeeds. However should the king call for it, then it can skip the king step all together, and if the Upper house agrees on it, then if the king says no the judge can stay it also doesn't need to be voted on by the upper house, unless new people were appointed.

    If there is anything someone would like to input then please to.


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