Post by: taulover on January 28, 2018, 03:35:23 AM
A WEREWOLF OF ICE AND FIRE
BOOK I: THE RED KEEP, KING'S LANDING
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BOOK I: THE RED KEEP, KING'S LANDING
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The year is 297 AC. Robert of House Baratheon, First of His Name, overthrew the Mad King and crowned himself King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men fourteen years ago. Westeros is in the longest summer in living memory, having lasted eight years so far. All is prosperous in the Seven Kingdoms. Or so it seems.
Beneath this apparent golden age, however, political tensions are broiling. King Robert longs for the adventurous days of old while he grows fat and neglects his duties to both his family and the realm. His consort Cersei, backed by Lannister gold and "woman's weapons," has ambitions and delusions of grandeur of her own. And a small, unknown, yet devoted faction works hard to restore the "rightful" heirs to the realm—under their influence, of course. Still others have numerous interests and goals of their own.
When Robert goes out for a hunt in the kingswood, leaving his Hand of the King, Jon Arryn, in charge as usual, these powerful groups decide that it is time to seize the opportunity to gain more power. The political backstabs, deals, and accusations that now proceed have yet to be seen...
A Note on Spoilers
This game is set immediately prior to the events of A Game of Thrones, or Season 1 of Game of Thrones, in an alternate timeline. This should avoid most spoilers, though by necessity there are a few mostly minor spoilers form Book/Season 1 that may be revealed, including in the player roles list. I will either spoiler-tag or blank out (in color) any spoilers beyond that in my writing, and request that you do so as well, if you feel the need to post something involving a spoiler.
Factions and Roles
King Robert's Faction
His Grace Robert of House Baratheon, First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm
Not a role, he's off on a hunt in the kingswood again.
Jon Arryn, Lord of the Eyrie, Hand of the King
Robert's chief advisor. Currently ruling in his stead (to be fair he really does that all the time). Can choose to find one person guilty of crimes every three days, sentencing them to join the Night's Watch.
Ser Barristan Selmy, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard
Celebrated knight and leader of the Kingsguard. For some reason he didn't go on Robert's hunt. Can protect one person every night from being scanned or accused. In contact with Jon Arryn.
Pro-Baratheon Courtiers
Ordinary members of the royal court who are more in favor of King Robert and his government. They are roughly double the number of pro-Lannister courtiers.
Lannister Faction
Cersei Lannister, Queen Consort
Every three nights, Queen Cersei can choose to use her womanly guile and Lannister wealth to gain information about one person's role. She can contact people she scans if they are in the Lannister faction.
Ser Jaime Lannister, Kingsguard
The Kingslayer. Loves his sister Cersei very much. Just like Ser Barristan, he also didn't go on Robert’s hunt for whatever reason. Every other night, he can choose to protect one person from being scanned or accused, or frame one person for crimes and make them take the black. In contact with Cersei and Pycelle.
Grand Maester Pycelle
An old man, in his position for a long time, yet loyal to the Lannisters. Every four nights, he can choose to drug up to two people, negating any of their nighttime abilities. In contact with Cersei and Jaime.
Pro-Lannister Courtiers
Ordinary members of the royal court who are more in favor of the Lannisters and their ambitions. They are roughly half the number of pro-Baratheon courtiers.
Varys' faction
Varys, master of whisperers
The king's spymaster. Secretly a [book-only spoiler] fAegon loyalist seeking to sow chaos in the royal court and small council. Can frame one person every night for crimes, sending them to the Wall. If he is discovered, he will not be able to be neutralized and sent to the Wall until his little birds are found.
Little birds
Two of Varys' spies. Can collectively choose to scan one person every night for their role, but cannot contact them because they are mute. They are young children, but somehow have managed to get themselves admitted into the royal court during the day. In contact with each other and Varys.
Neutrals & Unknowns
Yoren, wandering crow
Night's Watch recruiter. May (forcibly) "encourage" one person to take the black every four days. (Yes I know that doesn't make any sense canonically but whatever.) Personally wins the game if 7 people take the black, at which point he returns to the Wall. Will be allowed to return to the Wall if framed or accused.
Petyr Baelish, master of coin
Littlefinger, Westeros' greatest social climber. Friendly with any and all. Can scan one person every other night, and can choose to reveal his role to any person he scans. That person can allow him onto their side, so that he can win with them, or choose to reveal his unlawful espionage and send him to the Wall. Do note that Littlefinger can choose to continue contacting people of another faction that he has scanned even after joining a faction, thus allowing him to join multiple sides.
The Rules
1. Day phases last for roughly 48 hours, and night phases last for roughly 24 hours. The game begins in a day phase, which will last for 72 hours.
2. During the day phase, players vote to accuse one person of criminal guilt. I would prefer if you vote using this format:
Code: [Select]
[b]Accuse: taulover[/b]The person with the plurality of votes shall be sent to the Wall. In the event of a tie, one of the tied players will be selected at random.3. Players may not vote "no lynch;" however, they may choose to abstain from voting. Note that an abstention counts towards your inactivity lynch (see below)!
4. During both the day and night phases, the appropriate power roles can use their abilities by sending a message to me in the preexisting PM chain.
5. You are not allowed to reveal your role unless acting under the specific abilities of your power role. If you reveal your role, you will immediately be removed from the game.
6. If you do not vote for two consecutive day phases, you will be lynched for inactivity and removed from the game. Players with an inactivity lynch will not be sent to the Wall.
7. Players who are at the Wall or dead should refrain from posting, with the exception of a final goodbye post (no spoiling the game, of course). If you do post when at the Wall or dead, please preface your post with one of these respective tags, as is applicable to your situation:
Code: [Select]
[b]NIGHT'S WATCH[/b]Code: [Select]
[b]DEAD[/b]8. A faction wins if it consists of at least two-thirds of the remaining players. Losing survivors will be given the opportunity to go to the Wall, if they so desire.
The day phase begins now and will end three days from now, on Tuesday, January 30 at 7:30 PM PST.
List of players:
6. @Mathyland (Grand Maester Pycelle, surviving victor)
10. @Aragonn (Jaime Lannister, surviving victor)
12. @Gattoartico (pro-Baratheon courtier, surviving but defeated)
20. @Evelynx (pro-Lannister courtier, surviving victor)
Post by: Imaginative Kane on January 28, 2018, 04:02:50 AM
Post by: Arenado on January 28, 2018, 04:06:10 AM
Post by: PowerPAOK on January 28, 2018, 05:29:08 AM
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Post by: Doc on January 28, 2018, 07:02:55 AM
Post by: Imaginative Kane on January 28, 2018, 07:18:40 AM
It's day one, I don't want to be lynched for the fourth time running, so how about we all get together and just agree on a nice Vote: No Lynch.Can't vote no lynch in this game.
Post by: Gattoartico on January 28, 2018, 08:07:32 AM
Post by: Laurentus on January 28, 2018, 08:35:54 AM
Post by: Gattoartico on January 28, 2018, 05:52:57 PM
Careful, Gattoartico, careful. The mad king also wanted to lynch people for dubious reasons.
Yeah? Well, I am a dubious reason
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Post by: Doc on January 28, 2018, 05:59:46 PM
Well since Gatto hasn't actually called for my head in a serious fashion, I'm just gonna Vote:Abstain for now then.
Post by: Gattoartico on January 28, 2018, 06:08:27 PM
Only because I have no reason to remove anyone’s head yet. Yet.
*glares at doc*
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Post by: Imaginative Kane on January 28, 2018, 07:04:35 PM
Post by: Crushita on January 28, 2018, 07:04:50 PM
So I'll vote:Abstain
Post by: Gerrick on January 28, 2018, 10:54:39 PM
And if my calculations are correct, the factions have the following number of members:
Baratheon Faction: 9 (Arryn, Selmy, 7 courtiers)
Lannister Faction: 7 (Cersei, Jaime, Pycelle, 4 courtiers)
Varys Faction: 3 (Varys, 2 little birds)
Yoren
Petyr Baelish
Post by: Evelynx on January 28, 2018, 11:04:46 PM
Is it a fancy walkman?
... Kinda
Post by: 13ricity on January 29, 2018, 12:51:25 AM
Oh Boy this is gonna get confusing fast. Knowing me, ill slip up cause i've never seen (or read?) Game of Thrones.
Post by: Imaginative Kane on January 29, 2018, 12:51:45 AM
Post by: Evelynx on January 29, 2018, 01:55:14 AM
Here's a random number I generated between 1 and 21, inclusive. On my honor, it is the first result given from the random number generator.
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Accuse: @Aragonn
Post by: Red Mones on January 29, 2018, 03:05:16 AM
Anyway, I Vote: Abstain
Post by: Evelynx on January 29, 2018, 03:49:51 AM
This is Werewolf, I don't entirely believe you Evelynx. :P
Anyway, I Vote: Abstain
That's your right "Minister of money laundering".
Post by: Laurentus on January 29, 2018, 04:42:48 AM
Post by: Evelynx on January 29, 2018, 04:45:08 AM
Hmm, voting to abstain might not be such a good idea, since it's not the same as a no-lynch vote. It simply shows you're not voting, and that means any other person with a vote (in this case, Aragonn) gets put on the chopping block. Therefore, I vote: Gerrick, for no other reason than the fact that I like to annoy my boss in the ministry of culture. It should also jump-start discussion, somewhat, admittedly at the risk of my own head.
Fine reasoning, sir, fine reasoning indeed. I am very much in agreement.
Post by: Sapphiron on January 29, 2018, 07:32:22 AM
Post by: Mathyland on January 29, 2018, 12:39:56 PM
vote: Charles Watson-Turing-Donald
Post by: Arenado on January 29, 2018, 01:19:52 PM
Post by: PowerPAOK on January 29, 2018, 02:06:18 PM
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Vote: Crushita
Post by: Crushita on January 29, 2018, 03:30:09 PM
vote: Charles Watson-Turing-Donalda
You're coming up here with me my Pope-Consort :P
Post by: Laurentus on January 29, 2018, 04:14:06 PM
Post by: Gerrick on January 29, 2018, 04:26:13 PM
Vote: Laurentus
Post by: Aragonn on January 29, 2018, 04:28:27 PM
Post by: Evelynx on January 29, 2018, 06:28:53 PM
I demand a trial by combat.
You aren't in any danger yet! Save that line for a more poignant moment! I demand that you renounce your proclamation and delete your post at once! >:(
Post by: Laurentus on January 30, 2018, 01:11:57 AM
Post by: Evelynx on January 30, 2018, 02:17:57 AM
Should have amended it to ...between good sir Crush and whoever he's currently feuding with.
By the Seven, you must certainly be aware that you cannot invoke the holy rite of trial by combat on behalf of another! Let them speak for themselves.
Seriously though this game should have such an option in the event of a tie or something. The players each choose a champion, and then the moderator chooses a video game that the champions play against each other.
Post by: Laurentus on January 30, 2018, 02:26:39 AM
Post by: taulover on January 30, 2018, 02:27:09 AM
Bugging people who haven't posted in this thread yet:
@Cooki
@Justinian Ezkantion
@Elbbsas
@Bootsie
@Wintermoot
@Charles Watson-Turing-Donald
Seriously though this game should have such an option in the event of a tie or something. The players each choose a champion, and then the moderator chooses a video game that the champions play against each other.I believe Pengu tried to do that once, but there were enough complaints about lag, skill, lack of access to a PC with internet, etc. that he ended up falling back to using RNG instead.
Post by: taulover on January 30, 2018, 02:30:50 AM
Well, I suppose that might work, though I don't particularly like how that extends the day phases unpredictably (especially since I'd like the two games to sync up to make Wall arrivals seamless). Plus I don't like changing rules once a game has already started.
Post by: Doc on January 30, 2018, 02:31:33 AM
Both just PM their choice to taulover, and the winner is the first to two. There's no lag, skill, or whatever attached to that, particularly since if they don't send in their choices by a certain time, they're considered to have no champion and thus forfeited. Problem solved.
Post by: Laurentus on January 30, 2018, 02:33:50 AM
Post by: taulover on January 30, 2018, 02:40:49 AM
The truest example of a Trial by Combat is Rock Paper Scissors.That's still potentially adding days to a single phase, especially if there's multiple tied votes, while everyone else just waits. That's not even considering the massive potential for ties. And making the time limit any shorter than that would be favoring more active users.
Both just PM their choice to taulover, and the winner is the first to two. There's no lag, skill, or whatever attached to that, particularly since if they don't send in their choices by a certain time, they're considered to have no champion and thus forfeited. Problem solved.
"Pick a number between 1 and 1000" might work though, but at that point, you're arguably just using the tied players as an incredibly slow and not-that-interesting RNG...
Post by: Evelynx on January 30, 2018, 04:06:08 AM
The truest example of a Trial by Combat is Rock Paper Scissors.That's still potentially adding days to a single phase, especially if there's multiple tied votes, while everyone else just waits. That's not even considering the massive potential for ties. And making the time limit any shorter than that would be favoring more active users.
Both just PM their choice to taulover, and the winner is the first to two. There's no lag, skill, or whatever attached to that, particularly since if they don't send in their choices by a certain time, they're considered to have no champion and thus forfeited. Problem solved.
"Pick a number between 1 and 1000" might work though, but at that point, you're arguably just using the tied players as an incredibly slow and not-that-interesting RNG...
The object of trial by combat is not to determine whose random number is better, but to determine whose case is blessed by the Seven. If the Seven will it, even the weakest combatant's sword (or mouse) will be blessed by divine providence and strike fast and true.
Post by: Elbbsas on January 30, 2018, 04:08:42 AM
Another option would be to use the set up for Gerrick's Arena games. No blocking, no classes, just attacks until somebody dies. I'm not sure how applicable that would be, however.The truest example of a Trial by Combat is Rock Paper Scissors.That's still potentially adding days to a single phase, especially if there's multiple tied votes, while everyone else just waits. That's not even considering the massive potential for ties. And making the time limit any shorter than that would be favoring more active users.
Both just PM their choice to taulover, and the winner is the first to two. There's no lag, skill, or whatever attached to that, particularly since if they don't send in their choices by a certain time, they're considered to have no champion and thus forfeited. Problem solved.
"Pick a number between 1 and 1000" might work though, but at that point, you're arguably just using the tied players as an incredibly slow and not-that-interesting RNG...
The object of trial by combat is not to determine whose random number is better, but to determine whose case is blessed by the Seven. If the Seven will it, even the weakest combatant's sword (or mouse) will be blessed by divine providence and strike fast and true.
Post by: Evelynx on January 30, 2018, 04:11:29 AM
Post by: Red Mones on January 30, 2018, 04:12:23 AM
Post by: taulover on January 30, 2018, 04:28:45 AM
The object of trial by combat is not to determine whose random number is better, but to determine whose case is blessed by the Seven. If the Seven will it, even the weakest combatant's sword (or mouse) will be blessed by divine providence and strike fast and true.The same is true for a random number generator. The atmospheric noise filtering in as seeds for the random selection reflect the will of the Seven as well.
And if that lottery doesn't count, then arguably any other game doesn't either, unless we go for full authenticity and get two champions to actually physically duel one another.
Also, the trial can be performed during the night phase - the accused would be imprisoned during this time and wouldn't be able to use their powers. The results are announced at the beginning of the day phase. Then you won't be slowing the game down.The night phase is still only 24 hours.
Post by: Evelynx on January 30, 2018, 05:34:27 AM
The same is true for a random number generator. The atmospheric noise filtering in as seeds for the random selection reflect the will of the Seven as well.Divine providence cannot lie in numbers - "God does not play dice", as some dude once said. :D
The night phase is still only 24 hours.
Seems like enough time, champions can refuse to participate. If there are no champions to be found, then of course the trial must proceed through the normal judicial process of "taulover picks a number".
Anyway, this is probably a discussion for another time. I'd like to hash out ideas like this with someone someday though. I think with enough effort, proper planning of such an event is possible.
Post by: taulover on January 30, 2018, 05:48:13 AM
Seems like enough time, champions can refuse to participate. If there are no champions to be found, then of course the trial must proceed through the normal judicial process of "taulover picks a number".Ah, I think I was a bit confused about which game you were referring to. Thinking back to Doc's rock-paper-scissors proposal, for example, finding one person to be lynched out of many might take ages.
Anyway, this is probably a discussion for another time. I'd like to hash out ideas like this with someone someday though. I think with enough effort, proper planning of such an event is possible.Yeah, it's certainly something to look into for future games, and definitely quite workable. My biggest concern was with implementing it into the current game: with the game already running, I don't think it's best to make rule changes, especially if we went with your proposed night phase solution (which, by taking multiple players out of the game for a round, might majorly alter the dynamic).
Post by: Evelynx on January 30, 2018, 06:10:30 AM
There's only one rule in this game: You win or you die.
Post by: PowerPAOK on January 30, 2018, 06:12:43 AM
Post by: taulover on January 30, 2018, 06:12:56 AM
Absolutely, I wasn't suggesting that we modify the current game at all :)Ah, by "this game" in your initial suggestion post I thought you meant Werewolf XIV.1, not Werewolf in general. :D (And I think that from then on the conversation did steer a bit more to be specific for this game, partly due to my input.)
Post by: Imaginative Kane on January 30, 2018, 06:31:42 AM
Crushita:2
Charles Watson Donald Turing:2
Gerrick:1
Laurentus:1
Aragonn:1
Abstain:6
Post by: Imaginative Kane on January 30, 2018, 06:38:56 AM
Post by: taulover on January 30, 2018, 06:43:39 AM
Oh and Tau you forgot to mention Hydra so here. @Hydra it is still day time.Ah, I should've specified that it was both posts and any visible interaction with the thread that I was looking for; I was trying to ping any potentially inactive players. In this case Hydra liked the OP.
Post by: Aragonn on January 30, 2018, 02:43:22 PM
Here is the current vote count.I do believe you missed a vote for Gerrick.
Crushita:2
Charles Watson Donald Turing:2
Gerrick:1
Laurentus:1
Aragonn:1
Abstain:6
Post by: Doc on January 30, 2018, 04:18:37 PM
Incidentally, I'll also point out that said person said yesterday they don't actually have time for Werewolf.
So I'm switching my vote to Accuse: Cooki.
(don't actually join me in voting for said person because if they don't have time for round 1, they won't have time for The Wall, and an inactivity lynch removes you from contention completely, whereas a regular lynch doesn't)
EDIT: Oh as an aside - do people reveal their roles upon being forced to take the Black, or are they still secret until either they die at the Wall/win?
SECONDARY EDIT: Changed 'vote' to 'accuse' to fit Tau's preferred format a la Wintermoot down the thread)
Post by: Imaginative Kane on January 30, 2018, 04:57:58 PM
It turns out that I did not notice you had voted there Aragonn.Here is the current vote count.I do believe you missed a vote for Gerrick.
Crushita:2
Charles Watson Donald Turing:2
Gerrick:2
Laurentus:1
Aragonn:1
Abstain:6
Fixed.
Post by: Charles Watson-Turing-Donald on January 30, 2018, 06:26:45 PM
Well if I have to throw a second vote at someone so I'm not automatically lynched, I'll throw it at the person who can get the least angry at me...
vote: Charles Watson-Turing-Donalda
You're coming up here with me my Pope-Consort :P
:-\
If I vote for you now, that will put you in the lead with the most votes. I can't do that...
I don't want to abstain and get an inactivity count...
So, I'll just pick someone at random.
Vote: 13ricity
Post by: Wintermoot on January 30, 2018, 06:31:23 PM
Besides, using Aragonn's reasoning, it'll "keep things interesting". :P
As an aside, I've noticed it can be hard to keep track of who voted for who while a day turn is going on, so for future games I might code something up future WW hosts can use where people vote at the top of the topic (where the map in Mage Wars is), and it keeps track of the votes for each turn.
Edit: Edited in taulover's preferred formatting for votes.
Post by: Red Mones on January 30, 2018, 06:40:12 PM
Post by: 13ricity on January 30, 2018, 08:46:50 PM
I don't like randomly voting, but I will defend myself if voted upon.
Edit: Oops. Maybe I should've copied and pasted Charles name from his post, not Crushita's name (sorry for any misunderstanding).
Post by: Laurentus on January 30, 2018, 08:56:16 PM
Post by: Crushita on January 30, 2018, 08:57:46 PM
Post by: Laurentus on January 30, 2018, 09:06:07 PM
I change my mind. I accuse: Crushita. Strife between husband and wife gives me great pleasure
Post by: Imaginative Kane on January 30, 2018, 09:26:02 PM
Post by: Laurentus on January 30, 2018, 09:35:26 PM
Post by: Imaginative Kane on January 30, 2018, 09:37:21 PM
Post by: Crushita on January 30, 2018, 11:43:08 PM
Oh, you're married, are you?
I change my mind. I accuse: Crushita. Strife between husband and wife gives me great pleasureand advances my station. There's also that whole business of not having one person develop a clear majority yet. I'd rather it be coin-toss until we have more to work with.
You just called my husband my wife you bugger! If it wouldn't assure my death I'd vote for you!
Post by: Laurentus on January 31, 2018, 12:25:12 AM
(Writes a letter to alllords of the seven kingdoms, proclaiming it is so)
This should cause delicious scandal.
Post by: Laurentus on January 31, 2018, 12:25:43 AM
Post by: Hydra on January 31, 2018, 01:10:59 AM
Post by: taulover on January 31, 2018, 03:28:25 AM
He was passing by the Tower of the Hand, humming a tune to himself, when suddenly, a group of Arryn and Lannister retainers surrounded him.
"What is it?" Santagar asked them with a smile.
"Drop your weapons," one of the Arryn men said. "You will come with us."
"These are just blunt training weapons. I'm just taking them out for a bit of sparring, see?" He swung up one of the swords to show them, and—oh cock I took the wrong weapons—one of the Lannister guards knocked the swords out of his hands and the others pinned him to the ground.
"Look, this is all a misunderstanding, sers, I can explain..." Santagar trailed off has he was lifted up and led away to the Traitor's Walk. "I AM THE MASTER-AT-ARMS! YOU WILL NOT DEFY ME!"
Elsewhere in the castle that day...
"Yes, I know that it's an honor to serve in the Night's Watch," Ser Barristan the Bold was saying. "But I am sworn the serve the king, and will do so until I die."
"At least come an' see what it's like up there?" Yoren asked. "You don't have t' stay, plenty of noblemen come up there just to take a look."
"Well, I suppose that wouldn't hurt..." Selmy nodded.
Ser Aron Santagar, master-at-arms for the Red Keep and a pro-Baratheon courtier, a.k.a. Charles Watson-Turing-Donald, has been voted off to be sent to the Wall.
(The Seven have favored Crushita and his honor remains intact.)
Additionally, Ser Barristan Selmy, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, of the pro-Baratheon faction, a.k.a. PowerPAOK, has been recruited by Yoren to go to the Wall.
(Charles and PowerPAOK will receive their new roles and a PM notification once Werewolf XIV.2 begins.)
It is now the night phase! This phase will last for 24 hours and end on Wednesday, January 30 at 7:30 PST.
Post by: Evelynx on January 31, 2018, 05:55:22 AM
Post by: Charles Watson-Turing-Donald on January 31, 2018, 07:06:06 AM
Charles, a brave man, set off on his way, towards the wall. He was unsure what to expect when he got there.
(You taken the hint yet?) :P
Post by: Laurentus on January 31, 2018, 08:28:18 AM
Post by: PowerPAOK on January 31, 2018, 10:44:52 AM
Apparently Barristan thought the wall seemed nice when he got there? Isn't it frightfully cold? The nerve, deserting his duties like that. I guess they don't call him The Bold for nothing, though they do say the valley between boldness and brashness is narrow and its walls steep.
Night's Watch
Selmy arrived at Castle Black alongside Yoren, but was immediately swept away by the news of a raid over the wall. After experiencing the fiery spirit of the wildlings, but more importantly hearing, and eventually coming to learn first hand, the tales they shared, Barristan arrived at the realisation that being a knight of the Kingsguard had nothing on being the shield that guards the realms of men.
Post by: Evelynx on January 31, 2018, 04:55:57 PM
Night's Watch
Selmy arrived at Castle Black alongside Yoren, but was immediately swept away by the news of a raid over the wall. After experiencing the fiery spirit of the wildlings, but more importantly hearing, and eventually coming to learn first hand, the tales they shared, Barristan arrived at the realisation that being a knight of the Kingsguard had nothing on being the shield that guards the realms of men.
Wildling tales? Grumpkins and snarks and other fairy stories I expect.
Well, I suppose I don't blame him overmuch for leaving, considering the distasteful political climate. After all, what's one cold bed to another?
Post by: Doc on January 31, 2018, 05:03:38 PM
Night's WatchI suppose if one wishes to interpret guarding all men as a higher duty than guarding the King specifically, far be it from me to tell a knight of Ser Barristan's stature what is honorable and what is not.
Selmy arrived at Castle Black alongside Yoren, but was immediately swept away by the news of a raid over the wall. After experiencing the fiery spirit of the wildlings, but more importantly hearing, and eventually coming to learn first hand, the tales they shared, Barristan arrived at the realisation that being a knight of the Kingsguard had nothing on being the shield that guards the realms of men.
I suppose Ser Jaime shall be the new Lord Commander then, as the most senior remaining member of the Kingsguard.
The Red Keep shall need a new Master at Arms, though. Perhaps one of those Braavosi one hears so much talk of?
Post by: taulover on January 31, 2018, 05:06:08 PM
In unrelated news, in my continued bid to avoid lynching, I shall Accuse: Cooki as the safest of all possible choices, since he was going to be inactivity lynched anyway.It is not the day phase yet...
Post by: Doc on January 31, 2018, 05:07:56 PM
It is not the day phase yet...
I am really bad at these 'rule' things. Maybe that's why I keep getting lynched.
MORE FOOL ME
Post by: Evelynx on January 31, 2018, 05:45:05 PM
I suppose if one wishes to interpret guarding all men as a higher duty than guarding the King specifically, far be it from me to tell a knight of Ser Barristan's stature what is honorable and what is not.
I suppose Ser Jaime shall be the new Lord Commander then, as the most senior remaining member of the Kingsguard.
The Red Keep shall need a new Master at Arms, though. Perhaps one of those Braavosi one hears so much talk of?
How quick you are to leap at the throat, one could be forgiven for wondering if beneath your lord's raiments we would find flesh or fur!
Post by: Doc on January 31, 2018, 06:16:04 PM
How quick you are to leap at the throat, one could be forgiven for wondering if beneath your lord's raiments we would find flesh or fur!Do you take me for a Brindleman? Flesh or fur indeed.
Post by: Evelynx on January 31, 2018, 06:21:32 PM
Do you take me for a Brindleman? Flesh or fur indeed.
A brindleman? Nay, but a wolf perhaps. Though, seeing as you've since renounced your accusation, mayhap I mistook fleece for fur.
Post by: Doc on January 31, 2018, 06:49:10 PM
A brindleman? Nay, but a wolf perhaps. Though, seeing as you've since renounced your accusation, mayhap I mistook fleece for fur.What fear we wolves? The Wolf and Stag are brothers in arms, after all, though Lord Stark has not left the North for near a decade.
Post by: Aragonn on January 31, 2018, 07:41:28 PM
Post by: Laurentus on January 31, 2018, 07:44:13 PM
Go binge the first three seasons now!
Post by: taulover on January 31, 2018, 07:49:42 PM
:o >:( :o >:( :o >:( :oHey, I haven't even done that and I'm hosting this game! :P
Go binge the first three seasons now!
Post by: Laurentus on January 31, 2018, 07:50:41 PM
Post by: Aragonn on January 31, 2018, 08:01:43 PM
Post by: Laurentus on January 31, 2018, 08:08:15 PM
Post by: Aragonn on January 31, 2018, 08:13:31 PM
Post by: Red Mones on February 01, 2018, 12:13:54 AM
Post by: Aragonn on February 01, 2018, 12:22:50 AM
Post by: Laurentus on February 01, 2018, 12:25:03 AM
Post by: Aragonn on February 01, 2018, 12:44:38 AM
Post by: Evelynx on February 01, 2018, 12:46:47 AM
Just like, use trusted seeders for downloading your perfectly legally obtained software and media.
Post by: Red Mones on February 01, 2018, 01:14:51 AM
Good for you. I don't have any protection on my laptop, so I'd rather not risk it.I don't have any protection on my laptop either. :o :o :o
Post by: taulover on February 01, 2018, 03:29:53 AM
Post by: taulover on February 01, 2018, 03:43:32 AM
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Image credit: Game of Thrones, "Blackwater"
A night passes peacefully in King's Landing. yes I know that this image is from a battle scene but I literally couldn't find any other night shots readily online
Nothing appears to happen tonight.
The day phase begins now! It will end in two days, on Friday, February 2, at around 7:30 PM PST.
The following people did not vote (or abstained from voting) the previous day phase, and will be lynched for inactivity if they do not vote this time!
@Gattoartico
@Kane lives
@Red Mones
@North
@Elbbsas
@Cooki
@Bootsie
@Justinian Ezkantion
Post by: Laurentus on February 01, 2018, 03:51:45 AM
My, no one tried to poison my wine, yet? What is King's Landing coming to?
Back to business: seeing as we just lost one of our defenders (and also the only one, if I'm not mistaken) during the previous day phase, it's odd that no killings took place. The ruffians are either staying their blades, or they slept as well as we did. Thoughts?
Post by: Evelynx on February 01, 2018, 04:06:09 AM
I agree Laurentus, we should discuss.
Post by: Aragonn on February 01, 2018, 05:54:55 AM
Post by: Doc on February 01, 2018, 06:12:10 AM
Back to business: seeing as we just lost one of our defenders (and also the only one, if I'm not mistaken) during the previous day phase, it's odd that no killings took place. The ruffians are either staying their blades, or they slept as well as we did. Thoughts?
Hmm. I'm debating whether that constitutes a tacit admission of which side you're on, or, more likely for the Red Keep, an attempt to obfuscate by suggesting the opposite - or suggesting you were suggesting the opposite, and being someone else entirely.
Tactically astute, were it not for the point I'm immediately about to make.
I am curious, however, if this is not because some people have yet to realise that, rather than being a traditional game of Werewolf, this is in fact a game where there are no wolves among us (them all being up in Winterfell, which I am just now realizing is the joke), and it's two factions (and 5 other actors) vying for influence. As it stands, both factions are balanced in influence, what with the two losses to the Baratheon faction at the close of the day, leaving it 7:7, with 4 unaffiliated and one possibly dubiously so. Considering that the rules require the surviving faction to be '2/3s of surviving players' - we're going to see quite a few Lords and possibly a few Ladies forced to take the Black yet (or, I suppose, become a Silent Sister for the Ladies), since at the very least that will require us to be cut down to 10 (or 11, depending on how Tau rounds).
I'll note that this is far more thinking than I'm used to applying in round 2, so apologies if I'm wrong in any particulars.
Incidentally, I Accuse: Cooki once again because there are no possible consequences for doing so (what with him having dipped out of the game), especially now that it's the day phase and I can actually legally do that.
Post by: Imaginative Kane on February 01, 2018, 06:55:29 AM
Post by: taulover on February 01, 2018, 06:58:43 AM
since at the very least that will require us to be cut down to 10 (or 11, depending on how Tau rounds)The win condition is for one faction to consist of exactly two-thirds or more of the population. No rounding up allowed (using your example, 7/11<2/3 so it is not yet a win, but 7/10>2/3 so it is).
Post by: Arenado on February 01, 2018, 08:15:27 AM
Post by: 13ricity on February 01, 2018, 12:51:19 PM
Second, I don't know if this is allowed, and I will take it down if it's not, but a tactic I use in Town Of Salem, is when the killing team does not kill, sometimes the killers are inactive (*cough cough*). I just wanted to point this out there.
Post by: Gerrick on February 01, 2018, 05:00:58 PM
And Barristan Selmy was the Baratheon faction's only defender, but Jaime Lannister also functions as the Lannister faction's defender.
The only people who can frame during the night are (correct me if I'm wrong) Varys and Jaime Lannister.
For Varys: either he chose not to frame someone (very unlikely as there would be no reason not to), he was inactive during the night phase, Pycelle negated his ability, or Jaime Lannister defended his target.
For Jaime Lannister: either he chose to do nothing to save his ability for tomorrow night, he was inactive during the night phase, or he defended someone.
So inactivity on their parts is definitely possible but also not the only likely scenario. The inactives during the last day phase, by the way, were Bootsie, Cooki, Elbbsas, and Justinian Ezkantion.
Post by: Crushita on February 01, 2018, 05:15:39 PM
Hmm. I'm debating whether that constitutes a tacit admission of which side you're on, or, more likely for the Red Keep, an attempt to obfuscate by suggesting the opposite - or suggesting you were suggesting the opposite, and being someone else entirely.
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Laurentus is as likely to be tricky as a falcon is to fly. That is, he always will be :P
Anyway safe bet on voting: Cooki
Post by: taulover on February 01, 2018, 05:19:51 PM
First of all, I'd like to Accuse: Cooki because I want to add a second vote on someone's head.FYI Cooki has stated his intention to not play in the game, and will be lynched for inactivity this round. That is why Doc is voting for him, and why Doc is asking that nobody else vote for him, because we do not want an inactive player at the Wall.
(Hmm, considering the influx of votes on Cooki, I'm tempted to make an arbitrary rule clarification to lynch inactive players first, and then pick someone else to be voted off... >:D)
Post by: Laurentus on February 01, 2018, 05:42:30 PM
Fair enough, I had forgotten Jaime can also defend. That's probably what happened last night. Suppose we won't have much to work with more people get sent to the wall.
Post by: Evelynx on February 01, 2018, 05:48:36 PM
I don't know who to vote for yet though. A few arguments have been brought forward. I like Gerrick's reasoning, but it seems like voting for an inactive player is pretty similar to voting for Cooki?
However, it seems decidedly odd that nobody was sent to the wall by Varys last night.. if both Jaime and Pycelle used their abilities then 2 people's powers were nullified and 1 person was protected. We have 19 people left in the game, and 16 of them have roles unknown to the Lannisters. Pycelle's nullification therefore had a chance of negating Varys's ability between 11.33% and 12.5%. Jaime's ability can protect one person, and the chance that it was the one Varys targeted is.. I'm not quite sure, I think it's just 1/16 or 6.25%.
In aggregate, if Pycelle, Varys, and Jaime all used their abilities, the chances that nobody was sent to the wall is between 17.58% and 18.75%.
Conclusion: Varys very likely did not use their ability. Honestly, I doubt Pycelle even used his ability. It seems pretty wasteful to drop it on the first night with 0 intel, since it can only be used once every 4 days. That makes it even less likely that Varys used their ability.
It seems quite odd that he wouldn't use his ability doesn't it? He only wins if everyone else loses right? It's like a wolf not eating someone.
taulover: When are seer abilities activated? Before or after powers are used? For example, if a little bird identified someone, could Varys then use that information to target them? Or will the little bird report back in the morning and Varys can only decide to use it the following night phase?
Post by: taulover on February 01, 2018, 05:52:41 PM
taulover: When are seer abilities activated? Before or after powers are used? For example, if a little bird identified someone, could Varys then use that information to target them? Or will the little bird report back in the morning and Varys can only decide to use it the following night phase?Seer abilities are reported at the end of the night phase/beginning of the day phase.
Post by: Evelynx on February 01, 2018, 05:57:31 PM
taulover: When are seer abilities activated? Before or after powers are used? For example, if a little bird identified someone, could Varys then use that information to target them? Or will the little bird report back in the morning and Varys can only decide to use it the following night phase?Seer abilities are reported at the end of the night phase/beginning of the day phase.
In that case, I think the actual chance that Pycelle's ability would have hit Varys is 12.5%, making the aggregate 18.75%, assuming Jaime also used his ability. Up there ^ I confusingly ran two sets of numbers for Pycelle, one assuming Cersei successfully identified a Lannister and one assuming she didn't, and even those were wrong.
I stand by my conclusion though: I don't think Varys used his ability last night.
Post by: Red Mones on February 01, 2018, 06:23:40 PM
Post by: taulover on February 01, 2018, 06:35:08 PM
Would you consider hiding the wall thread? I don't think it's a great idea to have people in King's Landing reading conversations between characters at the wall and possibly figuring out roles before they've even been sent to the wall and given a role themselves. How would they know what's going on when they're so far away?That would potentially mean that new arrivals at the Wall would have a ton of reading to catch up on when they arrive, which (considering how such things generally play out things like established RPs) may make it difficult for people to begin participating. Plus, unless the whole game were done in a PM thread (which is obviously not ideal), Wintermoot would have to do a bunch of stuff with forum masking/permissions. Overall, not worth the trouble it'd be, IMO.
Post by: Red Mones on February 01, 2018, 08:32:13 PM
Post by: taulover on February 02, 2018, 01:35:39 AM
This is your 26-hour reminder to vote!
The following people will be lynched for inactivity if they do not vote:
@Gattoartico
@Red Mones
@Elbbsas
@Cooki
@Bootsie
@Justinian Ezkantion
And the following people have also been inactive so far this day phase, though they are currently still safe from being lynched:
@Wintermoot
@Hydra
@Mathyland
@Sapphiron
Post by: Gattoartico on February 02, 2018, 02:13:39 AM
Accuse: Doc.
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Post by: Evelynx on February 02, 2018, 02:18:40 AM
Well, hey, someone has to keep you all on your toes. :P
Fair enough, I had forgotten Jaime can also defend. That's probably what happened last night. Suppose we won't have much to work with more people get sent to the wall.
Hmmmm, it seems odd to me that a player as astute as Laurentus would forget that a member of the kingsguard can defend a player, and then also conclude that it's probably what happened even though there's only a small chance of that being the case. It's much more likely that Varys simply didn't use his power.
Post by: Laurentus on February 02, 2018, 05:01:16 AM
Post by: Red Mones on February 02, 2018, 05:33:09 AM
Post by: Sapphiron on February 02, 2018, 07:27:45 AM
Post by: Laurentus on February 02, 2018, 08:12:09 AM
Post by: 13ricity on February 02, 2018, 12:52:35 PM
Im gonna be 100% honest here
I have literally no idea whats going on here except when we accuse
Im just glad im not dead
Post by: Evelynx on February 02, 2018, 02:50:15 PM
1 vote Mathyland
1 vote Kane Lives
2 votes Cooki
2 votes Laurentus
2 votes Doc
I'm pretty much equally suspicious of Doc and Laurentus. This game is like completely impossible to be sure about...
Flipping a coin..
(https://i.imgur.com/IJn2M45.png)
Tails.
Accuse: Laurentus
Make that 3 votes Laurentus.
Post by: Sapphiron on February 02, 2018, 02:55:23 PM
To answer the question of why I said "theatrics or actual discussion", the way the two of you interacted aligns with how I would see two collaborators distancing from each other by engaging in harmless questioning of each other and and responding with cordial denial. That said, I have no evidence (yet?) to substantiate so my intuition can be wrong. A random theory of sorts?
Post by: Evelynx on February 02, 2018, 03:19:15 PM
I was not expecting a bandwagon stockpile after my post, that or I am becoming unnecessarily suspicious.
To answer the question of why I said "theatrics or actual discussion", the way the two of you interacted aligns with how I would see two collaborators distancing from each other by engaging in harmless questioning of each other and and responding with cordial denial. That said, I have no evidence (yet?) to substantiate so my intuition can be wrong. A random theory of sorts?
I figured that's what you meant, you maybe thought: hey, here's two maybe collaborators, I'll vote for one of them, doesn't really matter which? I don't think anyone really has much more to go on than intuitions at this point, honestly. So, my vote is open to changing if a more likely candidate comes along, and am also open to further discussion.
If, as I believe, Varys really didn't use his power last night, the game as it stands really confuses me... Can anyone think of a good reason why he wouldn't, other than being inactive? He doesn't have any allies that his bird can discover, so a shot in the dark that is guaranteed to hit an enemy seems like a great choice. Unless he was maybe worried that he would accidentally hit Yoren, Arryn, or Jaime, all three of which have the capability to inadvertently aid him in sending the lot of us to the wall? The thing is, all three of them could just as likely send one of his birds to the wall, so.. I don't know? Maybe Jaime really did save whoever Varys targeted, or maybe Pycelle nullified Varys..
A clever one, that spider, perhaps simply no one fell into his web. For some reason Laurentus's reaction made me suspicious of him, but I really don't have anything to go on upon reflection.
Post by: Wintermoot on February 02, 2018, 05:20:09 PM
Post by: taulover on February 02, 2018, 05:20:23 PM
The following people will be lynched for inactivity if they do not vote:
@Elbbsas
@Cooki
@Bootsie
@Justinian Ezkantion
Post by: Crushita on February 02, 2018, 05:22:29 PM
Someone who called my now dead husband my wife.
Vote:Laurentus
Post by: Gattoartico on February 02, 2018, 05:23:31 PM
Well in the interest of avoiding any possible punitive action for trying to cop-out on an actual vote by voting for Cooki, I can think of somebody who more then deserves my vote.
Someone who called my now dead husband my wife.
Vote:Laurentus
The Starchy Throne has spoken!
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Post by: Laurentus on February 02, 2018, 06:07:23 PM
Post by: Red Mones on February 02, 2018, 06:08:26 PM
1 vote Mathyland
1 vote Kane Lives
2 votes Cooki
3 votes Doc
4 votes Laurentus
Post by: Laurentus on February 02, 2018, 06:09:15 PM
Post by: Laurentus on February 02, 2018, 06:17:00 PM
Post by: Laurentus on February 02, 2018, 06:29:13 PM
Post by: Doc on February 02, 2018, 06:35:06 PM
It's rather more honest to just say 'look I'm hoping my faction wins and I'm pretty sure you're not in my faction, so here's a vote your way'.
With that in mind, I think that explains any reasoning of suspicion - it's not 'I fear that you're going to get us come night', it's 'I want my faction to win and the best way to do that is to get rid of everyone not in it'.
That and 'we talk a lot so we're visible'.
Post by: 13ricity on February 02, 2018, 06:43:15 PM
I continue to be really confused by the language everyone is using to talk about this game, because it's all being framed in terms of 'innocence' and 'guilt' - which makes sense for an ordinary game of Werewolf, but here there are no werewolves. It's a game of factions, except in the case of 4 individuals.
It's rather more honest to just say 'look I'm hoping my faction wins and I'm pretty sure you're not in my faction, so here's a vote your way'.
With that in mind, I think that explains any reasoning of suspicion - it's not 'I fear that you're going to get us come night', it's 'I want my faction to win and the best way to do that is to get rid of everyone not in it'.
That and 'we talk a lot so we're visible'.
Everything summed up in one post.
Post by: Laurentus on February 02, 2018, 06:44:22 PM
O, our father who art in heaven, give us this day our daily luck. Forgive us our random votes, as we forgive those Potatoist scum for existing in the first place. And lead us not into decapitation, but deliver us from foolish votes. For thine is the coin toss, the supreme arbiter of all disputes. So we say in thy name, o merciful RNGesus. Amen.
Post by: Crushita on February 02, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
Actually, when I think about it like that, it does make me marginally more suspicious of Evelynx too.
O, our father who art in heaven, give us this day our daily luck. Forgive us our random votes, as we forgive those Potatoist scum for existing in the first place. And lead us not into decapitation, but deliver us from foolish votes. For thine is the coin toss, the supreme arbiter of all disputes. So we say in thy name, o merciful RNGesus. Amen.
Calling my husband my wife.
Making heathen prayers to a heretical and non existent god.
Can I vote for you twice in the same round?
Post by: Laurentus on February 02, 2018, 06:57:29 PM
Post by: Evelynx on February 02, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
To go into more detail: so far the interaction between me and Evelynx has not veered into the interrogative, except for the current round. Wintermoot already indicated some suspicion of me back in round 1, which I felt would be best ignored until it became a problem. It did become a problem in the current round, as first Evelynx showed suspicion by questioning whether I would really make such a mistake (and to answer your question, yes, I would, as I have often made mistakes with the rules in these games), and then Sapphiron starting a bandwagon. Wintermoot, if he is linked with Sapphiron, might decide to avoid looking like he's stockpiling with Sapphiron, and decide to go for Doc, instead. I am still unclear as to why people feel Doc is suspicious, as they have declined to share their reasoning, which makes me wonder whether any reasoning exists.
My only reasoning for Doc is that he was like "Jaime should be leader of the Kingsguard now" and then "Baratheons and Starks are totes best buddies", which at first pass seems like he was supporting both factions, which means he might be a neutral faction.. Thin evidence, I know, especially since it seems that Doc, at the time, didn't get the joke I was making (he posted that he got it later).
Pure RP, probably, but still.. it's something.
Oh, and Elbbsas is some sort of power role. Just going off how many PMs I've seen sent whenever I looked at the Who's Online portion of the forum.
The who's online section tells you when a PM is being sent? I never knew that, good stuff.
Post by: Aragonn on February 02, 2018, 08:28:01 PM
Post by: Red Mones on February 02, 2018, 08:28:51 PM
Does that include my vote for Doc?Updated:
1 vote 13ricity
1 vote Mathyland
1 vote Kane Lives
2 votes Cooki
4 votes Doc
4 votes Laurentus
Post by: Aragonn on February 02, 2018, 08:46:35 PM
Post by: Aragonn on February 02, 2018, 08:47:17 PM
Post by: taulover on February 02, 2018, 09:11:27 PM
Oh, and Elbbsas is some sort of power role. Just going off how many PMs I've seen sent whenever I looked at the Who's Online portion of the forum.I suppose that's a valid tactic, considering that there are no rules against it...
Post by: Doc on February 02, 2018, 10:12:58 PM
Pure RP, probably, but still.. it's something.
Alas, it was pure RP, which I thought was just a thing we were doing.
Evidently that's come back around to bite me.
Oh, and Elbbsas is some sort of power role. Just going off how many PMs I've seen sent whenever I looked at the Who's Online portion of the forum.That seems weird, considering Elb hasn't yet voted, or even said anything, and is on the chopping block as far as the inactivity lynch goes.
Unrelated, but in the interest of preserving my metaphorical neck (metaphorical in the sense that it's not like we're being executed), I have to switch to Accuse: Laurentus.
Before also noting that if the goal is to find and eliminate a Varys, you have to find the little birds first, because per the rules,
If he is discovered, he will not be able to be neutralized and sent to the Wall until his little birds are found.Unless, I guess, the plan is to have Pycelle slip him some milk of the poppy on the regular.
Post by: Red Mones on February 02, 2018, 10:44:42 PM
1 vote 13ricity
1 vote Mathyland
1 vote Kane Lives
1 vote Cooki
4 votes Doc
5 votes Laurentus
Post by: Elbbsas on February 02, 2018, 11:25:54 PM
I should Science this website later. When there's one new neat thing there should be more.
Post by: 13ricity on February 03, 2018, 12:44:28 AM
I'm honestly more suspicious of 13ricity than Laurentus or Doc. 13ricity just jumped onto the voting wagon without saying much before or even saying anything after. I'll Accuse: 13ricity even though it won't change the current outcome of the day phase.
That's a vote not wasted
Even though I literally have no idea what the heck is even going on and whos who and what I should do and what happens during the night and literally everything else except the voting phase, so if that answers your question a bit, there you go.
Post by: Red Mones on February 03, 2018, 03:23:36 AM
Bootsie - 1
13ricity - 1
Mathyland - 1
Kane Lives - 1
Cooki - 1
Doc - 4
Laurentus - 5
Post by: taulover on February 03, 2018, 03:51:20 AM
"What... cough is the meaning of this... cough?!" he demanded weakly.
Then, Jon Arryn entered.
"You will come with us," the Hand of the King said.
Unable to struggle, the sickly old man was escorted out.
"I have found that you have been conspiring with others to overthrow the king in his absence," Lord Arryn stated. He paused for a moment. "In the name His Grace Robert, First of His Name, I hereby sentence you to the Wall."
"What? No!" Rosby replied. Was it his closeness with the Lannisters? Were they up to something? Thoughts raced through the nobleman's head as the guards escorted him away and out of the Red Keep.
Jon Arryn watched as his men escorted Rosby away. This world was too paranoid for its own good, but such measured needed to be taken. Jon turned away, seeking to return to the Tower of the Hand to get some work done.
As he did so, he saw the Kingsguard, without their Lord Commander, striding towards him.
"Good day, sers—" Jon Arryn began.
"We saw you, acting in the 'king's name,' delivering some so-called justice, without any explanation," said Ser Mandon Moore. That turncloak. Should've never brought him to King's Landing in the first place.
"I am empowered by His Grace to act in his name," Jon Arryn responded.
"Unfortunate that His Grace is not here with us currently," Ser Meryn Trant remarked.
The Kingsguard escorted Jon away, much as his guard had done to Rosby just moments before.
Jon Arryn, Hand of the King, on the King's faction, a.k.a. Laurentus, has been voted off to be sent to the Wall.
Before that, however, Gyles Rosby, a pro-Lannister courtier, a.k.a. Sapphiron, was sentenced by Lord Arryn to take the black.
Werewolf XIV.2 will begin momentarily.
Additionally, the following people have been lynched for inactivity:
Cooki, a little bird, of Varys' faction
Bootsie, a.k.a. a pro-Lannister courtier and executioner Ilyn Payne
Justinian Ezkantion, a.k.a. Varys
As is usual in Werewolf games, inactive power roles will be replaced by normal players. In the interest of maintaining fairness, I will assign one role each from the Baratheon and Lannister factions.
It is now the night phase, which will end roughly 24 hours from now, on Saturday, February 3 at around 7:30 PM PST.
Post by: Laurentus on February 03, 2018, 03:56:25 AM
Post by: Evelynx on February 03, 2018, 04:23:07 AM
And so my watch begins.
You'll be Lord Commander in a fortnight, I'd wager!
Post by: Doc on February 03, 2018, 04:46:58 AM
This dramatically complicates matters for the rest of us now, though, since it was 7:7:3:1:1 going into this round.
Now, it will be 5:4:3:1:1, meaning we're going to need to trim down to 8 or 9 (depending on Baelish's actions) in order for one side or another to win the game.
Although now that I examine the rules again - the win condition for both Yoren (7 people take the black - which, does that include him? Can he be the 7th to go to the Wall and thus 'win'? Does it stop the rest of us from winning if he does? Because if so we gotta get him like, now, but if not he's no real threat, since if he wins it automatically trims down part of the court when he auto-leaves for the Wall) and Baelish (be on the winning side) are known (https://youtu.be/foqUPiwMiOM?t=9s), as are the ones for both Lannister and Baratheon courtiers, but we don't have one for Varys and his lot. Which is a little sus if you ask me.
Do I have a target for these suspicions? Er...no. But I have them!
Jon Arryn, Hand of the King, on the King's faction, a.k.a. Laurentus, has been voted off to be sent to the Wall.Well, who'll be Hand now? The Lord Stark won't exactly be thrilled his foster-father's been forced to take the black, for all he'll be near Winterfell, and King Robert never seemed to have much time for Lord Tywin.
Mayhaps a Martell or a Tyrell. Either would be a good political move.
Post by: taulover on February 03, 2018, 04:51:35 AM
7 people take the black - which, does that include him? Can he be the 7th to go to the Wall and thus 'win'? Does it stop the rest of us from winning if he does? Because if so we gotta get him like, now, but if not he's no real threat, since if he wins it automatically trims down part of the court when he auto-leaves for the Wall7 people does not include him, it's a recruitment quota. :P And the game continues even if Yoren wins.
Post by: Sapphiron on February 03, 2018, 06:51:16 AM
All the best, lions.
Post by: Doc on February 03, 2018, 06:59:59 AM
7 people does not include him, it's a recruitment quota. :P And the game continues even if Yoren wins.On the one hand, good to know.
On the other hand, conspicuous lack of comment on everything else. Which makes me more paranoid, if possible.
Post by: taulover on February 04, 2018, 02:58:22 AM
Grand Maester Pycelle slipped into a room. Looking around, he saw a flask, and slipped a pinch of sweetsleep inside. Surreptitiously, he went back out, and then did the same to another room.
Once the dead was done, he shrunk back into his usual frail appearance and hobbled back to his quarters.
Later that evening...
Yoren heard banging on the door of his guest quarters. "Who's there?" he called, as he rose to open the door.
Ser Jaime Lannister strode in, flanked by Lannister guards. "Your presence is no longer required here, crow," he said.
"Ah, is that so?"
"We have some petty criminals in the dungeon who have already agreed to come with you," the Kingslayer said. "You will leave and return to the Wall in the morning."
Yoren, wandering crow, a.k.a. Doc, has been sent to the Wall by Ser Jaime Lannister.
Furthermore, Grand Maester Pycelle drugged two people to sleep through the night.
It is now the day phase! It will end in two days, on Monday, February 5 at around 7:00 PM PST.
The following people did not vote the previous day phase. They will be lynched for inactivity if they do not vote!
@Gerrick
@Mathyland
@Hydra
Post by: Crushita on February 04, 2018, 03:19:44 AM
Although now that I examine the rules again - the win condition for both Yoren (7 people take the black - which, does that include him? Can he be the 7th to go to the Wall and thus 'win'? Does it stop the rest of us from winning if he does? Because if so we gotta get him like, now, but if not he's no real threat
How am I not surprised Doc was Yoren what with all these questions :P
In other news Varys fails to
I'll hold my vote for the moment until further discussion. I just wanted to point out how I found Doc to be rather funny.
Post by: Evelynx on February 04, 2018, 03:42:22 AM
I too will withhold judgement for now, but here's some analysis..
Jaime didn't use his power to defend anyone last night, by Pycelle did drug two people.
There are 14 people left in the game, I think. At least 3 of them (perhaps 4, if Cersei detected a Lannister courtier) are known by Pycelle to be Cersei, Jaime and Pycelle himself. That leaves 10 or 11. I'm assuming that Pycelle doesn't know who Varys is on the basis that if he did, he would have known the first night when Cersei used her seer ability and would have used his nullification earlier (maybe he wouldn't have, I don't know). Which means that in using his ability, Pycelle had a 18-20% chance of getting it right. Higher than it used to be, but still not very high... The problem with these calculations is we don't know the likelihood that Varys would decide to use his ability..
It still seems unlikely that Pycelle would guess correctly, to me, so maybe we once again have an inactive Varys? I don't know how likely that is, since everyone left in the game has voted at least once. However, on the other side of the equation, the person who is Varys now received less than 24 hours notice that they are the new Varys, and was perhaps thus unable to respond in time.
Post by: Aragonn on February 04, 2018, 04:13:57 AM
Also, great pick, Ser Jaime. Keep up the good work.
Post by: Doc on February 04, 2018, 06:41:51 AM
Yoren hadn't managed to get quite as many as he'd hoped, but had some confidence in the quality of the men who would make the long trek north with him - though he'd hoped for some younger men, who could serve the Watch longer.
Lord Arryn had been an able general for the King, and would doubtless swiftly rise swiftly in the Watch. A knight of Ser Selmy's stature would be an immense boon to the Watch, hopefully drawing in others, while Ser Aron was vain, but a more than able swordsman, and perfect for the Rangers.
Only Lord Rosby seemed as if he might be ill-fit; his illness would not leave him well-suited to the cold of the north, but he had an able mind, and would doubtless be a suitable commander in the Builders.
Still - the intrigues of the Court might yet see more men sent to aid the Watch. Rumor had it Mance Rayder was building an army out there...
I sort of figured that would happen when I was on the chopping block with Laurentus. But I hoped.
At least I managed to double my previous best. Second round, baby!
Post by: Gerrick on February 04, 2018, 08:54:02 PM
In my opinion, an inactive Varys would have been more likely as he was previously a courtier who had no night phase abilities. Add on top the short notice of role change, and there's a likely scenario. Don't know how you'd be able to tell who was inactive during the night phase, though, so that information probably isn't very useful.
Post by: Aragonn on February 05, 2018, 12:35:33 AM
Post by: Evelynx on February 05, 2018, 01:07:21 AM
Of course it's more likely to have an inactive Varys than for a shot in the dark to work. It's always going to be more likely. The math will never change to be in favor of the drugging. That doesn't change the fact that two people were drugged and nothing happened. To not act upon this information is to invite tragedy. Inaction will cost more.
But we don't even know who Pycelle drugged, how can we act on that information?
Hmm, and I don't think it's possible that the Lannisters could know the identity of Varys via scan by Cersei since the new roles were assigned before she would've had a chance to scan him and relay the info to Pycelle.
Great point Gerrick. I think that Pycelle just guessed, and it's pretty likely that he guessed wrong. Along with the fact (as you mentioned and I reiterate) that there was fairly short notice given to the new Varys, I believe that the new Varys simply did not act.
This means that he probably WILL act tonight, so we should try to develop some sort of way to figure out who his little birdies are. In the meantime, I believe Varys can be exposed by a successful vote against him, though he won't be sent to the wall until his little birdies are out of the picture. @taulover: is my belief correct? If we do vote for Varys, will he then be "exposed"? In that case, will the second place target be sent to the wall?
I'm going to randomly pick among the players who were inactive last phase:
Accuse: Hydra
Post by: taulover on February 05, 2018, 01:35:49 AM
@taulover: is my belief correct? If we do vote for Varys, will he then be "exposed"? In that case, will the second place target be sent to the wall?He will be exposed, and nobody will be sent to the Wall.
Post by: Imaginative Kane on February 05, 2018, 01:42:21 AM
Post by: Aragonn on February 05, 2018, 01:56:28 AM
@Kane lives By anyone's reasoning, even I could be Varys or a little bird. Doesn't make it right, just saying people don't have the faintest clue right now and should be taking relative information and applying it to a strategy.
Post by: Imaginative Kane on February 05, 2018, 02:04:51 AM
Post by: taulover on February 05, 2018, 02:13:10 AM
This is your 25-hour reminder to vote!
The following people will be lynched for inactivity if they do not vote:
@Gerrick
@Mathyland
@Hydra
And the following people have also been inactive so far this day phase:
@13ricity
@North
@Elbbsas
@Gattoartico
@Red Mones
@Wintermoot
Post by: Arenado on February 05, 2018, 02:27:58 AM
Post by: Gattoartico on February 05, 2018, 02:58:33 AM
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Post by: Imaginative Kane on February 05, 2018, 03:03:27 AM
Hydra 1
Mathyland 1
Abstain 1
Oh and @taulover about how many players does each faction have at the moment if it is okay to ask that?
Post by: taulover on February 05, 2018, 03:11:25 AM
Post by: Imaginative Kane on February 05, 2018, 03:45:07 AM
Currently there are 13 players in King's Landing. 7 of these players are power roles. With 3 courtiers being out of the game. Ordinarily there would be 5 Baratheon and 3 Lannister courtiers left, however the inactivity of the Varys' Faction means that some number of courtiers or power roles have had their roles replaced. How many we have no idea.
Frankly, I have no idea who may be what at the moment. I was beginning to suspect Doc and Laurentus before they departed for the Wall. Other than that I am not sure who to suspect.
Post by: taulover on February 05, 2018, 03:58:06 AM
How many we have no idea.I have no clue how you came to this conclusion.
I'll just say that other people have already figured it out earlier in this thread (it's really just subtraction once you get the initial numbers), and suggest you work forward from that.
Post by: Mathyland on February 05, 2018, 04:31:24 AM
Doc had a player count earlier that seems to be correct. It’s 5:4:3:0:1 right now (after accounting for Doc’s death). There’s 7 power roles left and 6 courtiers left (1 for Lannister and 5 for Baratheon).
{you’re welcome :P}
Post by: Red Mones on February 05, 2018, 05:24:36 AM
The current vote count appears to beI've been slacking! :P To make up for it, a new format:
Hydra 1
Mathyland 1
Abstain 1
Hydra - 3
Evelynx
Mathyland
Red Mones
Mathyland - 1
Kane Lives
Abstain - 1
North
Post by: Gattoartico on February 05, 2018, 05:43:10 AM
Post by: Evelynx on February 05, 2018, 06:28:21 AM
@Hydra, is anybody home, or are you off somewhere not knowing that you were castrated in the night and renamed Varys?
Post by: Hydra on February 05, 2018, 06:45:38 AM
Btw, I know nothing about GoT lore, so this jargon is all Greek to me!
Post by: Evelynx on February 05, 2018, 07:00:46 AM
Oh my... what happened? Thanks for the ping, Evelynx, but I'm not sure how much it'll actually help me. Welp, In the name of having a shot at staying alive, Accuse: Mathyland
Btw, I know nothing about GoT lore, so this jargon is all Greek to me!
Varys is a eunuch. Last night someone was made into Varys due to the original Varys being executed for inactivity, and as they are the most archetypically "Werewolf" character in this variant, we are trying to identify them.
Post by: Crushita on February 05, 2018, 03:26:25 PM
Post by: Gerrick on February 05, 2018, 03:48:40 PM
Accuse: Mathyland
Post by: 13ricity on February 05, 2018, 05:12:04 PM
Post by: Aragonn on February 05, 2018, 05:21:46 PM
Post by: Aragonn on February 05, 2018, 05:34:43 PM
Hmmm.... Time to bandwagon! Accuse: HydraJust for future reference, make sure to bold your vote so it doesn't get skipped over when votes are tallied.
Post by: Elbbsas on February 05, 2018, 05:46:00 PM
I got a nineteen, so I'll Vote: Hydra.
Post by: Red Mones on February 05, 2018, 06:36:36 PM
Hydra - 6
Evelynx
Mathyland
Red Mones
Gattoartico
Aragonn
Elbbsas
Mathyland - 5
Kane Lives
Hydra
Crushita
Gerrick
13ricity
Abstain - 1
North
Post by: Arenado on February 05, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
Post by: Crushita on February 05, 2018, 10:12:09 PM
Well, y'all know me, I'm a real decisive feller.
You have not given proper offerings to RNGesus, Aspect of the Holy Spud! Repent heretic!
Post by: taulover on February 06, 2018, 02:56:36 AM
"Wonderful that you could join us." Lord Baelish rose to greet him.
"We have become... aware... of your greater schemes and plans," said Lord Renly.
"Pardon?" Varys asked, in a confused voice.
"You undoubtedly understand the grave nature of your crimes," stated Lord Stannis.
"My only allegiance is to the realm!" Varys protested.
"Cease with that ridiculous farce," snapped Ser Jaime, who was standing in for the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.
"If you insist." Quickly changing direction, Varys remarked calmly, "My little birds would be so distraught if anything happened to me. Indeed, I may even fear for your own personal danger."
Nobody spoke.
"Now, if I may?" Varys began walking towards his seat. Nobody stopped him as he sat.
Hydra has been voted off and revealed to be Varys.
However, he has set up a dead man's switch with his little birds, and as such cannot be sent to the Wall until his little birds are found first!
It is now the night phase! It will end in about 24 hours, on Tuesday, February 6 around 7:00 PM PST.
Post by: Evelynx on February 06, 2018, 03:16:05 AM
Kane Lives
Hydra
Crushita
Gerrick
13ricity
North
I guess it's possible that Hydra hid a bird among the voters against him, seeing as he knows he won't go to the wall in the event of him being exposed.. I probably would if I were him, but I like taking risks.
I suggest we all go through these player's history and make a case against each of them, and see who has the strongest one. The clock is ticking, and Varys is in a pretty good position to take this given his protections.. he's free to take potshots while we have to carefully select each target.
Post by: Aragonn on February 06, 2018, 03:30:18 AM
Post by: Evelynx on February 06, 2018, 03:34:29 AM
I had noticed odd behavior with 13ricity before, as I had pointed out earlier in this game.
Could you refresh my memory?
Post by: Imaginative Kane on February 06, 2018, 03:55:57 AM
This is what Aragonn was talking about @Evelynx.I'm honestly more suspicious of 13ricity than Laurentus or Doc. 13ricity just jumped onto the voting wagon without saying much before or even saying anything after. I'll Accuse: 13ricity even though it won't change the current outcome of the day phase.
That's a vote not wasted
Even though I literally have no idea what the heck is even going on and whos who and what I should do and what happens during the night and literally everything else except the voting phase, so if that answers your question a bit, there you go.
Post by: Red Mones on February 06, 2018, 05:02:53 AM
Well, that makes me suspicious of a few people. Anyone have any bird seed?Good Ol' me, who just makes vote counts, isn't suspicious at all. :P
Kane Lives
Hydra
Crushita
Gerrick
13ricity
North
Post by: Evelynx on February 06, 2018, 05:03:42 AM
Well, that makes me suspicious of a few people. Anyone have any bird seed?Good Ol' me, who just makes vote counts, isn't suspicious at all. :P
Kane Lives
Hydra
Crushita
Gerrick
13ricity
North
Wow, that was suspicious.
Post by: Red Mones on February 06, 2018, 05:04:53 AM
Wow, that was suspicious.I know, right? :P
Post by: 13ricity on February 06, 2018, 12:37:51 PM
This is what Aragonn was talking about @Evelynx.I'm honestly more suspicious of 13ricity than Laurentus or Doc. 13ricity just jumped onto the voting wagon without saying much before or even saying anything after. I'll Accuse: 13ricity even though it won't change the current outcome of the day phase.
That's a vote not wasted
Even though I literally have no idea what the heck is even going on and whos who and what I should do and what happens during the night and literally everything else except the voting phase, so if that answers your question a bit, there you go.
I'm really not sure about what your suspicious about. This is my first forum werewolf game, so excuse me if I do not know everything to know that I should know, but if you have your reasons, so be it. I'd just like to see a well-prepared case present against me, just so I can disprove it.
Post by: Aragonn on February 06, 2018, 03:22:40 PM
Also, if being a complete noob is your issue, go read the thread where Pengu lists all the tips and tricks to playing the game. It's in this same subforum. You'll go from "complete noob" to "not such a noob" in just minutes. You get veteran status after a few games.
Post by: 13ricity on February 06, 2018, 09:09:00 PM
That's the thing about werewolf. You have about a 3% chance of someone slipping up so bad that they give you enough for a good case. I've only seen it done twice in ten games. Everyone has to act upon intuition, and my intuition is pointing me towards you.
Also, if being a complete noob is your issue, go read the thread where Pengu lists all the tips and tricks to playing the game. It's in this same subforum. You'll go from "complete noob" to "not such a noob" in just minutes. You get veteran status after a few games.
Eh, I'd rather just learn by experience. Depending on how the rest of this game goes, ill decide whether or not to join the next one.
Post by: Aragonn on February 06, 2018, 09:29:26 PM
Post by: 13ricity on February 06, 2018, 11:11:36 PM
Well that's on you, then. Have fun experiencing from the Wall. :P
Don't worry, I enjoy new things. I would like to see the wall. (I wish there was a role similar to Jester from Town of Salem. "You only win if you are lynched. This means if you are killed in any way other than by lynching, you automatically lose the game."
Lets go death!
RIP
Post by: taulover on February 07, 2018, 12:40:05 AM
More detailed writeup will probably be forthcoming once Werewolf XIV ends, but this is basically what you need to know:
- The Who's Online (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?action=who) page shows the last page that every user has viewed in the last hour
- Publicly, the Who's Online page has been used at least once for the purposes of Werewolf; prior to being lynched in Werewolf XIV.1, Laurentus guessed a power role based on the fact that they were viewing PMs a lot (this guess is neither confirmed nor denied)
- There is a setting in the Old User CP to disable your online status, but as you might realize, suddenly vanishing from the list of users online in the past day may make it look like you're trying to hide something
- Because the page only shows the last page that you've viewed, you can clear it by loading another page, causing the Who's Online page to update
Post by: taulover on February 07, 2018, 02:59:18 AM
As he neared Varys' quarters, however, he saw guards step out of the shadows. All of a sudden, he was surrounded.
"Where are you going at such a late hour, Littlefinger?" one of the guards (Petyr could not see his face) demanded. "Trying to see the suspected traitor, perhaps?"
Varys said the guards would be taken care of, thought Petyr, cursing himself for trusting the Spider. The guards grabbed him, and Petyr was pulled away.
As the guards outside were taking care of Littlefinger, Varys himself slipped out of his room using his secret back-entrance. He soon made his way to Lord Renly's and Lord Stannis' chambers, and dropped indisputable evidence off Cersei's incestuous adultery.
Come morning, Cersei would no longer be an issue.
"I'm sorry, what?"
"You will join the Silent Sisters, your children will be stripped of their titles and named bastards, and your marriage shall be annulled," repeated Stannis Baratheon.
"By the way, I heard that the Night's Watch is asking for some Silent Sisters, for whatever reason," remarked Renly. "I think you would be the perfect fit at the Wall!"
Petyr Baelish, master of coin, a.k.a. Gerrick, tried to join Varys' faction but was instead sent to the Wall for illegal espionage.
Additionally, Cersei Lannister, Queen Consort, a.k.a. Elbbsas, has had her crimes revealed (or framed, arguably) by Varys and sent to the Wall.
The day phase begins now, and will end in two days, on Thursday, February 8 at around 7:00 PM PST.
Post by: Gerrick on February 07, 2018, 03:20:19 AM
Damn you, Hydra!
Post by: Arenado on February 07, 2018, 03:43:24 AM
Post by: taulover on February 07, 2018, 04:20:10 AM
The following people abstained or did not vote in the last day phase, and will be lynched for inactivity if they do not vote this day phase:
@Wintermoot
Post by: Elbbsas on February 07, 2018, 04:35:04 AM
Good luck everyone, it was a blast to take part!
Praise the Lord RNG for assigning me the female role. XD
Post by: Laurentus on February 07, 2018, 05:25:48 AM
Just imagine Bobby Baratheon's reaction when he gets back from his (absurdly long) hunt. "Wait, wait, wait. Y'all are telling me that while I was away, my Foster father took the black, my wife got outed as having an insestuous relationship with her brother, and got sent North, my kids were revealed not to be my kids, my master of coin tried to throw in with my spy master, and my spy master turned out not to be MY spy master, but a puppet for my most hated enemy? What the fuck have you all been drinking?"
Post by: taulover on February 07, 2018, 06:59:24 AM
NIGHT'S WATCHI'll admit, the plausibility of the storyline in this particular game isn't particularly high... :D
Just imagine Bobby Baratheon's reaction when he gets back from his (absurdly long) hunt. "Wait, wait, wait. Y'all are telling me that while I was away, my Foster father took the black, my wife got outed as having an insestuous relationship with her brother, and got sent North, my kids were revealed not to be my kids, my master of coin tried to throw in with my spy master, and my spy master turned out not to be MY spy master, but a puppet for my most hated enemy? What the fuck have you all been drinking?"
I will note, however, that his hunt is by no means absurdly long. By best estimate (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZsY3lcDDtTdBWp1Gx6mfkdtZT6-Gk0kdTGeSC_Dj7WM/edit#gid=8) (link is to a super-detailed ASOIAF timeline, obvious spoiler warning), Bobby B's hunt in AGOT canonically took some three weeks.
Post by: Hydra on February 07, 2018, 07:00:47 AM
NIGHT'S WATCH
Damn you, Hydra!
:P
Post by: Evelynx on February 07, 2018, 11:25:14 PM
Post by: Evelynx on February 08, 2018, 01:13:11 AM
Kane Lives
Crushita
13ricity
There was some effort to disguise Hydra (Varys) last vote. If I know anything about the way something like that works, what you do if you have a group of people you don't want to appear as if you're part of a group, so you don't just smash your voting bloc down on the issue all at once. However, your situation becomes more desperate as you get closer and closer to losing the vote, so you eventually throw down. This means that later votes originating from a voting bloc are more likely to be part of the voting bloc. Is this sound? I believe it is sound.
Accuse:13ricity
Post by: Aragonn on February 08, 2018, 01:24:30 AM
Post by: taulover on February 08, 2018, 01:59:17 AM
This is your
@Wintermoot will be lynched for inactivity if he does not vote!
Additionally, the following people have not yet posted this day phase:
@Mathyland
@Red Mones
@Gattoartico
@Kane lives
@Crushita
@13ricity
Edit: fixed time left to vote as of when the post was first made
Post by: 13ricity on February 08, 2018, 02:06:41 AM
Post by: Evelynx on February 08, 2018, 03:18:47 AM
Thats some sound evidence, and I will be surprised if I am not sent to the wall this day. I'd also like to point out the people who may have known that Hydra was Varys, so they voted guilty to not seem suspicious. But im going to Accuse: Aragonn because I know that literally whoever I vote, it will not matter.
I've noted that this was a possibility. Especially since there were no consequences to Varys getting revealed... I might suggest that in future games that when Varys is voted out, he goes out and one of the birdies becomes the new Varys.
Post by: Crushita on February 08, 2018, 06:06:27 AM
Post by: Evelynx on February 08, 2018, 06:16:01 AM
I am honestly more suspicious of those who voted against Hydra then Mathyland. Simply because the consequence of Hydra being revealed as Varys is that we now know who is trying to murder us instead of it being a faceless threat, and we wasted a day we could have lynched one of his little birds instead. Oddly enough it almost BENEFITS them to know that Hydra is Varys. With that in mind, since there's atleast one vote on him, I'll vote: Aragonn
I think that's going a little far. It doesn't benefit Varys's team for everyone to know who he is... as a result of that vote, when the little birds are gone, Varys will be gone the next day, guaranteed. Certainly, if we knew who the little birds were, we would have voted for one of them instead, but it was still of great benefit to anyone who doesn't want to see us all sent to the wall.
Honestly it seems suspicious that someone who voted to protect the super-wolf (super by virtue of his two protective seers) would say something so preposterous.
Post by: Imaginative Kane on February 08, 2018, 06:34:07 AM
Edit: Vote.
Post by: Evelynx on February 08, 2018, 07:09:20 AM
I agree with Evelynx's reasoning. The most suspicious player appears to be 13ricity but in order to avoid the bandwagon I will accuse the other player that seems suspicious. I vote Crushita.
Edit: Vote.
I honestly don't understand this "avoid the bandwagon" thing.. It seems like maybe you're just trying to avoid confrontation, perhaps? If you think 13ricity is most likely to be a birdie, then vote for him! Trust your own judgement!
I myself am less sure, I'm actually leaning towards Crushita at this point. I'd rather not change my vote, though, because changing my vote was what fucked me last game. So I can understand that you wouldn't want to change yours.
Post by: Imaginative Kane on February 08, 2018, 07:11:19 AM
I just tend to not follow the crowd unless I am completely certain that the crowd is correct. That is simply what avoiding the bandwagon is.I agree with Evelynx's reasoning. The most suspicious player appears to be 13ricity but in order to avoid the bandwagon I will accuse the other player that seems suspicious. I vote Crushita.
Edit: Vote.
I honestly don't understand this "avoid the bandwagon" thing.. It seems like maybe you're just trying to avoid confrontation, perhaps? If you think 13ricity is most likely to be a birdie, then vote for him! Trust your own judgement!
I myself am less sure, I'm actually leaning towards Crushita at this point. I'd rather not change my vote, though, because changing my vote was what fucked me last game. So I can understand that you wouldn't want to change yours.
Post by: Wintermoot on February 08, 2018, 09:12:56 AM
^what happens when everyone seems a little suspicious. v_v
Post by: Aragonn on February 08, 2018, 06:54:04 PM
Post by: Gattoartico on February 08, 2018, 10:02:49 PM
Post by: Aragonn on February 08, 2018, 10:42:32 PM
Post by: Aragonn on February 08, 2018, 10:47:50 PM
Post by: Gattoartico on February 08, 2018, 10:51:34 PM
Well screw you too with your bullshit vote.
Love you too Aragonn
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Post by: Crushita on February 08, 2018, 10:53:07 PM
Post by: taulover on February 08, 2018, 11:13:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/vcpRZ8k.png)
Post by: Red Mones on February 08, 2018, 11:16:40 PM
Crushita - 3
Kane Lives
Wintermoot
Aragonn
Aragonn - 3
13ricity
Gattoartico
Red Mones
13ricity - 2
Evelynx
Crushita
Red Mones - 1
North
Edit: Haha, Tau, you posted just before me. :))
Post by: Arenado on February 08, 2018, 11:24:30 PM
Post by: Mathyland on February 08, 2018, 11:27:48 PM
Since Pycelle had two people drugged, perhaps it's best that both those people go up to the rng? I have no idea who they are though so I'll random guess Mathyland
plus, I saw him on the who’s online list doing unknown action and later I saw him viewing messages
Post by: taulover on February 08, 2018, 11:48:27 PM
Post by: Crushita on February 09, 2018, 12:18:06 AM
plus, I saw him on the who’s online list doing unknown action and later I saw him viewing messages
[/quote]
I mean, I do send a lot of messages generally. I'll often throw Fortis an idea for Mithra through PM if I want to make sure its in writing, or organize a time for us to talk, and that trend has not subsided because of this game :P
Post by: 13ricity on February 09, 2018, 12:33:24 AM
Post by: Red Mones on February 09, 2018, 01:23:21 AM
Crushita - 5
Kane Lives
Wintermoot
Aragonn
Mathyland
13ricity
Aragonn - 2
Gattoartico
Red Mones
13ricity - 2
Evelynx
Crushita
Red Mones - 1
North
Post by: taulover on February 09, 2018, 03:00:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZaYKZUG.png)
⠀
A little bird is spotted (Game of Thrones, "The North Remembers").
⠀
A little bird is spotted (Game of Thrones, "The North Remembers").
After Varys' proclamation, the search for his spies began in earnest. They rounded up servants, questioned them, let them go when they proved innocent.
But soon, they made progress. A child servant was found, cleaning the floors of the Red Keep. When questioned, he did not speak, for he could not speak.
Soon, the child was on a cart on the Kingsroad, heading north to the Wall.
Crushita, one of Varys' little birds, has been voted off and sent to the Wall.
The night phase begins now and will end in about a day, on Friday, February 9 at around 7:00 PM PST.
Post by: Red Mones on February 09, 2018, 04:05:02 AM
Post by: Crushita on February 09, 2018, 04:21:34 AM
He had been found. Though he was not surprised. With his master revealed it was only a matter of time. He was lucky to be only sent to the wall, apparently his masters word still held sway, otherwise he would have been killed. His master was nothing if not merciful. The loss of his tongue was a small price to pay to be saved from death, and Varys had always treated him well afterwards. He knew that soon Varys plots would come to fruition, what he had fought for the entire life that he could remember would come to bear. Being caught was just part of this. Being sent to the wall was just part of this. He had orders. Orders that would soon be filled.
This little bird had yet to fly, and by the Seven he would fly. Woe be unto those caught in its claws.
Post by: taulover on February 10, 2018, 03:11:00 AM
In White Sword Tower...
Ser Jaime read the parchment before him.
Interesting.
So the youngest Baratheon, along with his... friend... were planning to destabilize the realm, with the support of one of the Great Houses of Westeros?
Well, he could certainly oblige this request to end their nefarious plans once and for all.
Within the hour, the Kingslayer was leading Lord Renly and Ser Loras to the Traitor's Walk.
Renly Baratheon, a pro-Baratheon courtier, a.k.a. Kane lives, has been incriminated by Varys and sent to the Wall.
Furthermore, Loras Tyrell, a pro-Baratheon courtier, a.k.a. Red Mones, has been arrested by Jaime Lannister and sent to the Wall.
The day phase begins now, and will end in two days, on Sunday, February 9 around 7:00 PM PST.
(heh, how convenient that the two people whom I'd assigned to Renly and Loras got sent to the Wall at the same time)
Post by: Imaginative Kane on February 10, 2018, 03:15:02 AM
I wonder if I was onto anything with my random lynch guessing.
RIP
Post by: taulover on February 10, 2018, 03:33:39 AM
Post by: Aragonn on February 10, 2018, 03:42:03 AM
Post by: Red Mones on February 10, 2018, 05:00:30 AM
Shame. I was doing pretty well, I think. :P
Good luck, House Baratheon.
Also, @Hydra did not vote last round and will be lynched for inactivity if he does not vote this day phase.Or be sent to the wall by night. :D
Post by: Arenado on February 10, 2018, 05:20:48 AM
Post by: Evelynx on February 10, 2018, 06:42:10 AM
North, who has remained carefully in the shadows for the entire game, only voting in such a way as to not rock the boat.
13ricity, who has a difficult to pronounce name. Also he voted to protect Varys.
My math tells me it's 13ricity. My gut tells me it's North.
Accuse:North
Post by: Evelynx on February 10, 2018, 06:46:24 AM
Post by: Gattoartico on February 10, 2018, 05:46:48 PM
Post by: Aragonn on February 10, 2018, 07:08:59 PM
Well this is interesting. Baratheon is losing traction at the Landing. Whosoever shall win? Hmmmm.... I’ll Accuse: Wintermoot because somebody has been very quite."Quite" what exactly? Perhaps you meant "quiet"? :P
Post by: taulover on February 11, 2018, 03:11:28 AM
The following people have not yet posted this day phase:
@Hydra (who will be lynched for inactivity if he does not vote this round)
@Wintermoot
@Mathyland
@13ricity
Post by: Gattoartico on February 11, 2018, 03:51:47 AM
Well this is interesting. Baratheon is losing traction at the Landing. Whosoever shall win? Hmmmm.... I’ll Accuse: Wintermoot because somebody has been very quiet."Quite" what exactly? Perhaps you meant "quiet"? :P
shhhhhhh maybe I did, maybe I didn't..... You'll never know.
Post by: Aragonn on February 11, 2018, 08:08:09 AM
Post by: 13ricity on February 11, 2018, 04:54:33 PM
Post by: Wintermoot on February 11, 2018, 08:35:41 PM
I just haven't had much chance to spend much time posting until this weekend, and that's made it hard for me to keep track of the game. That being said, it's interesting how Evelyn and Gatto just pulled my name out all of a sudden now, so I'll Accuse: Gattoartico.
Post by: Aragonn on February 11, 2018, 08:43:55 PM
North - 1
Evelynx
Wintermoot - 1
Gattoartico
Gattoartico - 2
Aragonn
Wintermoot
Post by: 13ricity on February 12, 2018, 01:05:22 AM
Post by: Hydra on February 12, 2018, 02:16:51 AM
Post by: taulover on February 12, 2018, 03:04:21 AM
"What's the matter?" he greeted them.
"The small council and I have agreed that, in the interest of the stability of the realm, the faith of R'hllor be banished from King's Landing," the High Septon said, as if reciting from a script.
"I am here by King Robert's invitation! You will not take me!" he exclaimed. "I could cut you all down with my flaming sword if I wanted to!"
The guards moved to take him away.
Thoros of Myr, the Red Priest, a pro-Baratheon courtier, a.k.a. Wintermoot, has been voted off and sent to the Wall.
It is now the night phase! We will begin the next day phase in about 24 hours, on Monday, February 12, at around 7:00 PM PST.
Post by: Aragonn on February 12, 2018, 03:10:09 AM
Post by: Evelynx on February 12, 2018, 04:15:00 AM
Post by: Aragonn on February 12, 2018, 04:22:49 AM
Post by: Wintermoot on February 12, 2018, 07:33:30 PM
Unfortunate.NIGHT'S WATCH
I think you're more tore up over the removal of your out-of-game dear friend and Monarch than that. Squeeze out a few tears at least. :P
Post by: Aragonn on February 12, 2018, 07:40:12 PM
I lost my tear ducts in the War!Unfortunate.NIGHT'S WATCH
I think you're more tore up over the removal of your out-of-game dear friend and Monarch than that. Squeeze out a few tears at least. :P
But no, seriously. We're screwed if we can't find that bird fast.
Post by: taulover on February 13, 2018, 02:59:58 AM
It was well known that a Red Priestess had arrived at Lord Stannis' fief of Dragonstone some time ago, and converted many of Stannis' men, if not Stannis himself. Spin things just the right way, and Stannis Baratheon was seeking to overturn the Faith of the Seven in favor of a terrible, foreign god.
He threw in a few potential links to earlier conspirators such as his brother Renly, and his framing was complete. By dawn, the Master of Ships was no more.
Stannis Baratheon, for the purposes of this game a pro-Baratheon courtier, a.k.a. North, has been incriminated by Varys and sent to the Wall.
The day phase begins now, and ends in about 48 hours, on Wednesday, February 14, at around 7:00 PM PST.
Post by: Aragonn on February 13, 2018, 03:18:50 AM
Three Lannisters.
Varys and his bird.
Who shall win?
Post by: Laurentus on February 13, 2018, 03:49:07 AM
We Baratheon supporters are getting raped hard.
Post by: Aragonn on February 13, 2018, 04:28:39 AM
Post by: Mathyland on February 13, 2018, 01:42:11 PM
Someone needs to go, and it seems like he’s likely the Little Bird.
Post by: Evelynx on February 13, 2018, 07:37:23 PM
@Hydra @13ricity @Gattoartico
Post by: 13ricity on February 13, 2018, 08:36:59 PM
Post by: Evelynx on February 13, 2018, 09:13:13 PM
I believe that because 13ricity is the first person to vote following my prompt, they are the least likely to be the little bird. Hydra's strategy at this juncture is likely to wait until one person is voted for that isn't a bird, then pile on the person that is voted for in order to draw the voting into a 50/50 game. That's what I would do. This strategy means that he must reserve his voting bloc until such a pile can occur, which means after the aforementioned vote takes place.
Thus, in my estimation, 13ricity, that leaves you to suspect either Gatto or yourself. You have influenced me by virtue of voting immediately after being prompted instead of waiting to strike as if you were Hydra.
Therefore, I cast my vote for Gatto. It makes the most logical sense at this juncture. There still exists the slim possibility that 13ricity is the bird, but I'm ready to roll those dice.
@13ricity, you may freely vote as you wish, but voting for Gatto would dispel my suspicions towards you entirely.
Accuse: Gattoartico
Post by: Mathyland on February 14, 2018, 12:46:55 AM
Ill see what happens and Accuse: Mathyland. Mathyland seems like the bird, from voting up Gattoartico up randomly. Also claiming that Gattoartico is "the Little Bird" makes me more suspicious of him. :PThat logic against me is about as good as if I voted for you because you edited that post, and that makes me suspicious of you. I strongly urge you to vote for Gatto, but of course, I can’t control you.
Post by: taulover on February 14, 2018, 03:18:50 AM
The following people have not yet voted:
@Gattoartico
@Hydra
Post by: Gattoartico on February 14, 2018, 03:22:54 AM
Accuse: Mathyland
Edit: changed vote to Mathyland
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Post by: Aragonn on February 14, 2018, 03:51:15 AM
Post by: Gattoartico on February 14, 2018, 03:52:46 AM
@Gattoartico If we all shifted our votes to 13ricity, would you then rescind your vote and join us?
I wish to not walk into a trap that’s what I’ll say. But if you agree then it will be.
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Post by: Mathyland on February 14, 2018, 04:02:15 AM
Post by: Aragonn on February 14, 2018, 04:03:48 AM
Post by: Gattoartico on February 14, 2018, 04:05:37 AM
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Post by: Aragonn on February 14, 2018, 04:06:57 AM
Aragonn
Mathyland
Mathyland
13ricity
Gattoartico
Gattoartico
Evelynx
Post by: Gattoartico on February 14, 2018, 04:09:24 AM
Accuse: 13ricity
Post by: 13ricity on February 14, 2018, 11:43:17 AM
Post by: Aragonn on February 14, 2018, 12:26:21 PM
Post by: 13ricity on February 14, 2018, 12:33:57 PM
Post by: Aragonn on February 14, 2018, 01:37:34 PM
Aragonn
Mathyland
Gattoartico
Gattoartico - 2
Evelynx
13ricity
Post by: Evelynx on February 15, 2018, 02:30:26 AM
Sorry man, you don't switch your vote fast enough.
Post by: taulover on February 15, 2018, 03:05:41 AM
Vardis Egen, until recently the captain of the Arryn guards, heard the guard yell and ran.
Vardis had been stripped of his command when his liege, Lord Arryn, had been sent north for treason. Now, he had been forced into working for the remaining Lannisters.
He soon arrived at the source of the yelling. The last little bird had been captured, pinned down. Together with the other guards, Vardis escorted Varys' agent away.
A little bird, a.k.a. 13ricity, has been voted off and sent to the Wall.
The night phase begins now, and ends tomorrow, Thursday, February 15, at around 7:00 PM PST.
Post by: Evelynx on February 15, 2018, 03:06:35 AM
Post by: Aragonn on February 15, 2018, 03:36:21 AM
Post by: Hydra on February 15, 2018, 05:07:51 AM
Alright Hydra, a Lannister always repays his debts. And this is a debt of blood.
Not sorry that I killed your sister/queen. O:-)
Post by: Aragonn on February 15, 2018, 05:22:59 AM
Post by: taulover on February 16, 2018, 02:59:30 AM
Pycelle thought for a moment, and responded, "Here. Have some dreamwine. It will help."
Lancel murmured his thanks, then departed the room.
After Lancel's footsteps had faded away into the distance, Pycelle stood up and stretched for a bit. He then walked to Varys' chambers, and once more gave him the gift of sweetsleep.
With Varys well asleep, it was not difficult for Ser Jaime Lannister to arrest the eunuch. By daybreak, the Spider was well on his way north on the Kingsroad.
Varys, a.k.a. Hydra, has been arrested by Ser Jaime Lannister (a.k.a. Aragonn) and sent to the Wall.
Furthermore, Grand Maester Pycelle, a.k.a. Mathyland, drugged Hydra (and his fellow teammate Evelynx, a.k.a. Lancel Lannister, at her request).
The game has now ended in a Lannister victory!
@Gattoartico, a.k.a. Vardis Egen, Master-at-Arms of the Arryn guards and a pro-Baratheon courtier, you have the option to swear allegiance to your new Lannister overlords and have the game now end for you, or be exiled to the Wall. You have 48 hours to make your decision.
Additionally, as a recap, here is an archive of all the votes and night actions from this game (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CQg1nCwWiWoQ7uUh74pzNX6Suj-A6XCvyts9KuMRXag/edit), which I hope that you will enjoy.
Post by: Hydra on February 16, 2018, 03:09:27 AM
Post by: Imaginative Kane on February 16, 2018, 04:11:15 AM
It turns out my hunch that Mathyland was a little suspicious was correct. Good game.
Post by: Gattoartico on February 16, 2018, 04:30:33 AM
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Post by: Mathyland on February 16, 2018, 04:33:44 AM
Hydra and birds, how did you not know we were the Lannisters? Even towards the end when the Baratheons had no chance of winning, you ended up killing more and more Baratheons. Surely you birds must have scanned one of us at some point? Or at least suspected any of us?
Post by: Aragonn on February 16, 2018, 05:10:55 AM
Post by: Evelynx on February 16, 2018, 06:25:54 AM
Post by: Elbbsas on February 16, 2018, 07:45:04 AM
But I want to go to the wall with Cerseiiii!!!NIGHT'S WATCH
*muffled* GET ME OUT OF HERE IT IS COLD AND DARK AND THERE ARE NO FANCY CANDLES. =P
Post by: Doc on February 16, 2018, 09:36:08 AM
Hey, aren't you supposed to be a Silent Sister?
Post by: 13ricity on February 16, 2018, 11:44:38 AM
And how could you not have scanned me of all people? I'm the guy you're all always the most afraid of.
I never scanned you because I figured I could kill you the following day, but boy was I wrong.
Post by: Aragonn on February 16, 2018, 01:27:05 PM
Rookie mistake. :PAnd how could you not have scanned me of all people? I'm the guy you're all always the most afraid of.
I never scanned you because I figured I could kill you the following day, but boy was I wrong.
Post by: Wintermoot on February 16, 2018, 01:37:49 PM
Post by: Aragonn on February 16, 2018, 01:38:39 PM
Post by: 13ricity on February 16, 2018, 03:26:11 PM
Rookie mistake. :PAnd how could you not have scanned me of all people? I'm the guy you're all always the most afraid of.
I never scanned you because I figured I could kill you the following day, but boy was I wrong.
I looked at your profile pic right after I read rookie mistake. It fit perfectly.
Post by: Gerrick on February 16, 2018, 05:10:41 PM
Hydra, Crushita, and 13ricity, bet you wished you hadn't revealed me and sent me to the Wall now, huh? Looks like you could've used my help. :P
Post by: Evelynx on February 16, 2018, 05:58:15 PM
Good game, guys, that was fun. Congrats to the Lannisters, well played. And thanks for the game taulover and Laurentus!
Hydra, Crushita, and 13ricity, bet you wished you hadn't revealed me and sent me to the Wall now, huh? Looks like you could've used my help. :P
You were my next target because I caught you sending a secret message to Hydra!
Post by: Gerrick on February 16, 2018, 06:07:25 PM
You were my next target because I caught you sending a secret message to Hydra!Haha, yeah, I mean I was going to try to contact a Lannister next. Just figured Varys could kill me sooner than a Lannister could, so I contacted him first. I was going to try to play both sides, though, since I'd count towards each faction's total -- couldn't think why someone would expose me unless they were definitely going to lose (which is why I scanned Laurentus but didn't contact him, since he ended up getting lynched next phase, spelling the end for the Baratheons).
Post by: Evelynx on February 16, 2018, 06:09:08 PM
You were my next target because I caught you sending a secret message to Hydra!Haha, yeah, I mean I was going to try to contact a Lannister next. Just figured Varys could kill me sooner than a Lannister could, so I contacted him first. I was going to try to play both sides, though, since I'd count towards each faction's total -- couldn't think why someone would expose me unless they were definitely going to lose (which is why I scanned Laurentus but didn't contact him, since he ended up getting lynched next phase, spelling the end for the Baratheons).
The Baratheons could have won right up to the last phase.. it would take squeezing by two 50/50, but it could have been done. That's why it was important to keep the narrative focused on Gatto/13ricity right up until the end.
Post by: Doc on February 16, 2018, 06:12:21 PM
"A faction wins if it consists of at least two-thirds of the remaining players."
50-50 isn't 2/3, and so probably that's exactly how Varys was supposed to win.
Post by: Evelynx on February 16, 2018, 06:15:14 PM
No, they couldn't.
"A faction wins if it consists of at least two-thirds of the remaining players."
50-50 isn't 2/3, and so probably that's exactly how Varys was supposed to win.
Yeah, but it results in a 50/50 tied vote. I vote for you, you vote for me, RNG takes someone home. Then your faction is 100% of players.
Post by: Gerrick on February 16, 2018, 06:15:44 PM
Post by: Evelynx on February 16, 2018, 06:26:31 PM
Yeah, but none of the Baratheons at that point were able to be in contact with each other, so it would've been riskier to expose myself to just one of them since they could expose me and the others wouldn't even know I'm on their side. And I seriously doubted the Baratheons would win since the other two factions had members in contact. Thought it better to hedge my bets with Varys and then the Lannisters -- apparently that wasn't a good bet, though.
Yeah, honestly at that stage in the game I thought that Varys had it in the bag.. I never thought he wouldn't have scanned Aragonn and taken him out at the earliest opportunity. Getting on his team would have been awesome.
I was in contact with the Lannisters because Cersei got lucky on round #1 and scanned me, who just happened to be her most ardent admirer.
Post by: Doc on February 16, 2018, 06:36:30 PM
Yeah, but it results in a 50/50 tied vote. I vote for you, you vote for me, RNG takes someone home. Then your faction is 100% of players.Mmm. I suppose you must be right, but that just seems screwy to me.
At any rate, since the match is finally over, Tau, can we know what exactly Varys' win condition was? Unless he really did just count as his own faction, which seems a bit dull.
Post by: Aragonn on February 16, 2018, 07:39:37 PM
Post by: Evelynx on February 16, 2018, 07:54:10 PM
The Baratheons though.. they got shafted pretty hard... One piece of bad luck after another.
Post by: taulover on February 16, 2018, 08:15:33 PM
Though given the precedent Pengu set during Werewolf XI, I would've given you the option to end the game in a draw.No, they couldn't.Yeah, but it results in a 50/50 tied vote. I vote for you, you vote for me, RNG takes someone home. Then your faction is 100% of players.
"A faction wins if it consists of at least two-thirds of the remaining players."
50-50 isn't 2/3, and so probably that's exactly how Varys was supposed to win.
Post by: Wintermoot on February 17, 2018, 05:25:16 PM
It's always a Valerian, right?It does often seem to be the case.
Post by: Arenado on February 17, 2018, 07:12:37 PM
Post by: Evelynx on February 17, 2018, 07:47:53 PM
Well, my strategy of being as inoffensive and invisible as possible sorta worked....
It made me suspicious of you at first, but in the end made zero sense if you were not simply a Baratheon courtier. You failed to act in many instances where action would help Varys.
Post by: Laurentus on February 17, 2018, 07:53:50 PM
Ours is the fury, and our vengeance will be terrible.
Post by: Evelynx on February 17, 2018, 10:59:46 PM
NIGHTSWATCH
Ours is the fury, and our vengeance will be terrible.
You of the Night's Watch can't even have kids, so your dreams die with you and like you they die cold, hopeless and forgotten.
Post by: Sapphiron on February 18, 2018, 03:10:18 AM
Post by: Laurentus on February 18, 2018, 03:56:11 AM
Plus, I felt some petty vengeance was in order. :P
Post by: Hydra on February 19, 2018, 03:48:08 PM
I was going to try to play both sides, though
We were pretty sure you would play both sides but didn't know if we could trust you to not reveal our roles to the Lannisters. :P
Post by: Gerrick on February 19, 2018, 03:51:32 PM
We were pretty sure you would play both sides but didn't know if we could trust you to not reveal our roles to the Lannisters. :PAh, I wasn't even sure I was allowed to do that, and I probably would've pretended like I couldn't if I could (unless tau would've said something about it :D).
Post by: Hydra on February 19, 2018, 03:54:57 PM
Hmm now that I think of it, don't know why I didn't ask tau if you could. :-[We were pretty sure you would play both sides but didn't know if we could trust you to not reveal our roles to the Lannisters. :PAh, I wasn't even sure I was allowed to do that, and I probably would've pretended like I couldn't if I could (unless tau would've said something about it :D).