Post by: Michi on October 08, 2017, 03:06:38 AM
Textual Introduction (aka the script of the video above)
Greetings villains, and welcome to Werewolf XIII. I will be your host, the Grim Reaper. Let me start by saying how very disappointed I am in all of you. You were supposed to be the best at what you did: killing innocents, or scaring them to death. And while some of you did mark up an impressive body count, all of you failed in some way to some pathetic human being.
I won’t stand for this any longer. Each of you are special, unique. But each of you has been fighting on their own, and failing miserably. So now you will work together to carry out your missions, and then I can finally take the souls of the dead and end this miserable plane of existence. As expected, you may meet resistance on the way, and some of you that I might be speaking to might not even be the genuine article. But if you see any of those so called “survivors” out there, give them an axe to the face, or what have you. If they best the lot of you, I’ll find a punishment more severe than the simple embarrassment of losing to such weaklings.
Do not disappoint me.
I won’t stand for this any longer. Each of you are special, unique. But each of you has been fighting on their own, and failing miserably. So now you will work together to carry out your missions, and then I can finally take the souls of the dead and end this miserable plane of existence. As expected, you may meet resistance on the way, and some of you that I might be speaking to might not even be the genuine article. But if you see any of those so called “survivors” out there, give them an axe to the face, or what have you. If they best the lot of you, I’ll find a punishment more severe than the simple embarrassment of losing to such weaklings.
Do not disappoint me.
Welcome players, to Werewolf XIII. For too long have these pathetic humans overthrown us, tossed us aside and treated us like garbage. All we wanted was to simply kill one or two of them, devour their souls, make them our slaves, or simply scare them to death. But now is the time of the villains, where we fight back, killing these so called Survivors as a team. But be warned: they are a clever breed, and will go to great lengths to hide their true identities. If you don’t find them, they may hunt our kind to the brink of extinction. But I guarantee the only ones that will be extinct today will be those miserable human beings.
I call to you, players. Choose your villain, and let the hunt begin. But be wary, the character you choose may very well be a lowly survivor in disguise.
Attending our rampage today is none other than:
Origin: Stephen King’s IT
Origin: SAW Franchise
Michael Meyers (Claimed by Gerrick)
Orgin: Halloween Franchise
Origin: Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Origin: Hellraiser Franchise
Origin: Any movie starring Dracula (starting with...Dracula!)
Origin: Child’s Play/Chucky Franchise
Origin: Scream Franchise
Jason Vorhees (Claimed by Crushita)
Origin: Friday the 13th Franchise
Freddy Krueger (Claimed by Mathyland)
Origin: Nightmare on Elm Street Franchise
Brahms Heelshire(claimed by Sapphiron)
Origin: The Boy
Norman Bates (Claimed by Taulover)
Origin: Psycho Franchise
Be warned, villains, for the hunters may become the hunted. You will have two phases in this game: The Accusatory Phase, and the Killing Phase. In the Accusatory Phase, you will decide amongst yourselves who is secretly a survivor. The Accused of course will be killed in the most gruesome way imaginable.
In the Killing Phase, you will have three choices: Use your ability, do nothing, or go on a Killing Spree. If you choose to go on a Killing Spree, you can reap great rewards:
*Maximum Blood Point Increase
*Blood Point Restoration
*Extra Target for your ability/team
*Automatic Protection from attack next turn
*Extra Vote in Accusastory Phase
*New Ability for a turn
*And more!
or terrible consequences:
*Loss of Maxium Blood Point
*Loss of remaining Blood Points
*Loss of ability usage for you/your team for a turn
*Unable to be protected from attack next turn
*Automatic Target in the Killing Phase
*Loss of Vote in Accusatory Phase
*And more!
“But Grim!” I hear you ask, “What are Blood Points?” First, never call me Grim, or it will be a slow and painful death for you. Second, Blood Points are what you will need to use abilities. Each character will have a different amount of Maximum health points depending on the type of ability they use. As shown, you’ll have the ability to restore lost points or even gain an extra Blood Point slot by going on a Killing Spree...or you may lose a current point or even a maximum one, depending on your luck.
“But Grim!” I hear you ask again, “What are these different abilities?” First, I WILL END YOU IF YOU CALL ME THAT AGAIN. Second, these abilities are known only to the villain, and nobody else. But while these abilities are secret (and will remain thusly), here’s what’s not:
*Your identities: Since you’re choosing your character, what’s to hide? Everyone knows who’s who. It’s just...you don’t know who the survivors are. It’s a shame we’re already at the point of the movie where the Survivors have found each other!
*What someone earns on a Killing Spree. Hey, guess what? Pennywise just earned a Blood Point from his killing spree! That’s right, whatever the result, you’ll know that something happened to a character. Now, keep in mind that you won’t ALWAYS know the exact detail. Pennywise gained a blood point, Leatherface gained an ability, Brahms found a friend (good for him!), Jigsaw lost a blood point. That’s basically the gist of what you’ll learn.
*Hey, everyone has an ability in this game! Here’s the types you’ll find here:
>Necromancer (Targets Self: If used before their death, they will revive themselves)
>Antagonist (Targets 1: You know, I hate that majority right now. So let’s double the votes against the other person)
>Witch (Targets 1: Don’t say the word that’ll get you killed!)
>Martyr (Targets self: Hey look, I can’t die! What? I only get 2 lives? That’s bogus, man!)
>Rigger (Targets self: Hey, I don’t like being voted for, so your votes don’t count)
Choose your actions well, and you may survive, though the humans will not. Or, fall and become nothing but a memory in the mind of the vile humans.
Good luck, and do not disappoint me.
Rules:
1) The Accusatory Phase will last 48 hours, and the Killing Phase will last 24 hours.
2) Killing Spree outcomes are determined by the Wheel of Misfortune. Though you may find items on a Killing Spree to increase your chance of good results or bad results for another (or vice versa, depending on luck)
3) The game will end when the remaining Survivors equal the Villains, or the Villains exterminate the Survivors
4) Do not discuss abilities with players. As nobody knows who is a Survivor in disguise, you don’t want to give them an unexpected advantage.
5) You can vote against players by saying Accuse: (insert name here). The player with the majority of votes will be killed.
6) Hey, guess what? It's a must-lynch game. You don't HAVE to vote to not lynch, but like the Wheel of Misfortune, there may be possible consequences for doing so. Loss of abilities for a turn, someone dies anyways, the bad guys get an extra life, the possibilities are endless. So you don't have to send someone to die each turn, but is it worth the possible outcome?
7) Hey, it's an inactivity rule! If you're not voting for 2 consecutive phases, you'll be given a punishment via the Wheel of Misfortune. Think the penalties in #6, but for a singular player rather than the whole.
8) In the Killing Phase, you can choose to go on a Killing Spree, Do Nothing, or use your ability if it's usable. For the Survivors, they'll have the choice of those, or to Attack a Villain.
The game begins now. Choose your character (It will be a first come-first serve thing), and the killing shall begin shortly after.
The Cast:
2. @taulover as Norman Bates
3. @Crushita as Jason Vorhees
7. @Mathyland as Freddy Krueger
8. @Gerrick as Michael Meyers
10. @Sapphiron as Brahms Heelshire
Post by: Michi on October 08, 2017, 03:14:54 AM
And as usual, any questions you have can be addressed. In the meantime, simply just choose one of the 12 characters:
Pennywise, Jason Vorhees, Brahms Heelshire, Freddy Krueger, Norman Bates, Michael Meyers, Ghostface, Leatherface, Chucky, Dracula, Pinhead, Jigsaw
Yes, that's right. No PMs have been sent out, because you're choosing your fate.
Post by: Wintermoot on October 08, 2017, 03:33:52 AM
Post by: Hydra on October 08, 2017, 03:55:32 AM
Post by: Doc on October 08, 2017, 03:56:08 AM
Let me follow up with: dibs on Jigsaw.
Post by: Michi on October 08, 2017, 04:04:18 AM
Let me lead with: please, GOD, don't lunch me round 1 again. At least wait till round 2.
Let me follow up with: dibs on Jigsaw.
Well, I mean unless Pennywise or Dracula needs a snack, I don't think you have to worry about being lunch.
Post by: taulover on October 08, 2017, 04:05:57 AM
Now for a question:
Could you elaborate on each of the abilities? While amusing, the descriptions are not very precise or understandable. (Especially: are there any cooldown times?)*Hey, everyone has an ability in this game! Here’s the types you’ll find here:
>Seer (Targets 1: Hey look, I can see people!)
>Protector (think Defender, but stuns the Survivors for a turn)
>Defender (Targets 1: Protect a person for a turn, no limits!)
>Necromancer (Targets Self: If used before their death, they will revive themselves)
>Instigator (Targets 1: Hey look, it’s a guaranteed target!)
>Suppresor (Targets 1: Oh, you wanted to use your ability? Too bad, but hey...it’ll still cost that point!)
>Negator (Targets all: Oh, you all wanted to use abilities? Well, sucks for you)
>Preserver (Targets group: Anyone who votes for them will have their votes thrown out to other villains)
>Antagonist (Targets 1: You know, I hate that majority right now. So let’s double the votes against the other person)
>Witch (Targets 1: Don’t say the word that’ll get you killed!)
>Martyr (Targets self: Hey look, I can’t die! What? I only get 2 lives? That’s bogus, man!)
>Rigger (Targets self: Hey, I don’t like being voted for, so your votes don’t count)
Post by: Laurentus on October 08, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
Post by: Michi on October 08, 2017, 04:24:31 AM
I'll take Norman Bates because he's one of the few that I actually recognize.
Now for a question:Could you elaborate on each of the abilities? While amusing, the descriptions are not very precise or understandable. (Especially: are there any cooldown times?)*Hey, everyone has an ability in this game! Here’s the types you’ll find here:
>Seer (Targets 1: Hey look, I can see people!)
>Protector (think Defender, but stuns the Survivors for a turn)
>Defender (Targets 1: Protect a person for a turn, no limits!)
>Necromancer (Targets Self: If used before their death, they will revive themselves)
>Instigator (Targets 1: Hey look, it’s a guaranteed target!)
>Suppresor (Targets 1: Oh, you wanted to use your ability? Too bad, but hey...it’ll still cost that point!)
>Negator (Targets all: Oh, you all wanted to use abilities? Well, sucks for you)
>Preserver (Targets group: Anyone who votes for them will have their votes thrown out to other villains)
>Antagonist (Targets 1: You know, I hate that majority right now. So let’s double the votes against the other person)
>Witch (Targets 1: Don’t say the word that’ll get you killed!)
>Martyr (Targets self: Hey look, I can’t die! What? I only get 2 lives? That’s bogus, man!)
>Rigger (Targets self: Hey, I don’t like being voted for, so your votes don’t count)
The Seer and Defender are pretty self explanatory in their descriptions (and we all know the Seer and Defender anyways).
Protector: Think the Guardian where you're guaranteed a protection for someone, only with the Protector...they prevent the Survivors from attacking for a round.
Necromancer: Like it says, if they choose to use their power in their allotted phase, if they're targeted by an attack, then they'll simply come back to life. Think the "Elder" role for this...only if the Necromancer is able to procure another blood point, they'll have use of the ability again. However, they can also cost themselves a blood point if they use the ability but weren't targeted to die.
Martyr: This role is EXACTLY like the Necromancer, except for one important detail: They get one shot. One. Once they've come back to life that one time, that'll be it. This is much more the "Elder" role.
Witch: They'll pick a target and a word that the target can't say. There are specifications to keep the word from being something cheap (three letter words, character names, player names, etc...), but if they say the chosen word...the target dies.
Antagonist: Exactly as it sounds. They'll choose a target currently at vote in the Accusatory phase, and all votes for that person will double.
Preserver: Again, exactly as it sounds. They'll take any votes being used against them in the Accusatory phase, and those votes will instead go randomly to other villains. IE If Laurentus has a majority and used that ability, he'd no longer have the majority, and others would get votes on them that were originally on him.
Negator: As it sounds, all abilities are nulled for the round.
Suppressor: Exactly like the negator, but anyone who attempted to use an ability will lose a point.
Instigator: Like stated, their chosen player will be an automatic target for an ability being used, though the choice will be random. They may even end up being the automatic choice for the Survivors' attack.
Rigger: Exactly as it sounds: All votes against the rigger will be removed. Unlike the Preserver, all votes will simply just be removed, as if they were all "Abstain/No Lynch" votes. And yes, if it's a unanimous vote against them and they use their ability, it WILL incur the "No Lynch" penalty.
There's no cooldown for abilities, but:
A) They can only be used in a specific round, which each role will be let know when that usage is.
B) They can only use it a specific number of times, since abilities require blood points to use. The highest maximum blood points are 3, but the maximum blood points vary with each character and depends on the type of ability they wield.
Post by: Gerrick on October 08, 2017, 04:26:16 AM
Michael Myers! Yeah, baby, yeah!
Post by: Crushita on October 08, 2017, 04:31:14 AM
Post by: Michi on October 08, 2017, 04:46:56 AM
And the remaining characters are:
*Pinhead
*Ghostface
*Brahms Heelshire
*Freddy Krueger
*Leatherface
Post by: Laurentus on October 08, 2017, 04:53:51 AM
As soon as everyone's picked someone, I'd like to kill someone.
Post by: Arenado on October 08, 2017, 06:47:59 AM
Post by: Sapphiron on October 08, 2017, 08:08:10 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 08, 2017, 08:17:50 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 08, 2017, 09:22:52 PM
I guess I'll vote: Wintermoot. Tradition must be upheld. :P
Post by: Michi on October 09, 2017, 01:50:53 AM
As long as one of them responds, then we can begin swiftly, since the other will get the final character by default (only Freddy Krueger and Pinhead remain)
And if anything, I'll give it till tomorrow afternoon (2PM PST), and then I'll just randomly give them a character. Once everyone has gotten their characters and the accompanying PM, I'll announce the official start of the hunt.
Post by: Michi on October 09, 2017, 02:05:47 AM
Post by: Mathyland on October 09, 2017, 02:19:00 AM
Sorry for the late reply
Post by: Michi on October 09, 2017, 02:27:18 AM
And with that, the final PM has been sent out and all of the characters claimed, so let the hunt begin!
Naturally, we'll begin things in the Accusatory Phase. You'll have until 7:30PM PST on 10/10/17 to decide a potential suspect.
Do not disappoint me.
@Laurentus @Doc @Crushita @Wintermoot @Mathyland @Gerrick @Aragonn @Sapphiron @Hyrda @North @taulover @Justinian Ezkantion
Post by: Laurentus on October 09, 2017, 02:45:31 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 09, 2017, 02:46:00 AM
Post by: taulover on October 09, 2017, 03:31:53 AM
Obligatory retaliatory/self-preservation Accuse: Laurentus. After all, what if Chucky's soul has been driven out by a deceased human seeking revenge?
Post by: Laurentus on October 09, 2017, 03:53:07 AM
Post by: Michi on October 09, 2017, 04:23:03 AM
Of the assembled characters, Norman Bates sames like the only half-way decent human being, at least by villain standards.
I'm not sure if that was an intentional joke or not, but I found the wording amusing.
Post by: Laurentus on October 09, 2017, 04:46:22 AM
Post by: Michi on October 09, 2017, 05:00:04 AM
It was a non-serious vote, but I didn't try to include any strange wording. Care to enlighten me?
Well considering he essentially has two personalties going on in his psyche and one is decent-ish, he really would be a half-way decent human being. :))
Post by: Laurentus on October 09, 2017, 05:30:24 AM
Post by: Doc on October 09, 2017, 07:08:38 AM
HOWEVER THAT LED ME TO A NEW THEORY: that it must be Aragonn, because upon my most recent re-re-re-examination of the role list, he's the only name on said list who is playing himself
6. Aragonn as Aragonnone might say that pengu probably just made a mistake...but i think it's a freudian one
tl;dr Vote: Aragonn
Post by: Arenado on October 09, 2017, 07:40:57 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 09, 2017, 07:48:56 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 09, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
Post by: Sapphiron on October 09, 2017, 12:37:58 PM
Random choice for the first day
Post by: Mathyland on October 09, 2017, 12:57:52 PM
Here's my random vote for the day.
Post by: Crushita on October 09, 2017, 01:15:33 PM
Random first day vote
Post by: Wintermoot on October 09, 2017, 03:24:38 PM
Trying to pick me off before the game even properly started. :P
Post by: Hydra on October 09, 2017, 05:50:49 PM
Also RNG first day vote. :P
Post by: Doc on October 09, 2017, 06:08:19 PM
He also seems really crazy and suspicious with that "examining" he's doing.or i'm getting into character as a deranged mass murderer and you're the suspicious one for seeming so sane
Post by: Aragonn on October 09, 2017, 06:52:38 PM
So says the one who is, like, "literally dead". :PHe also seems really crazy and suspicious with that "examining" he's doing.or i'm getting into character as a deranged mass murderer and you're the suspicious one for seeming so sane
Besides, I've never seen my character in action, so I wouldn't know how he behaves.
Post by: Doc on October 09, 2017, 07:05:37 PM
TWO CAN PLAY AT THAT GAME
CONSIDER THIS AN INQUISITION, HERETIC
we should really take this silliness to What's On Your Mind instead of muddying the waters
Post by: Gerrick on October 09, 2017, 07:36:23 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 09, 2017, 08:23:12 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 10, 2017, 01:15:50 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 10, 2017, 01:16:17 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 10, 2017, 01:17:06 AM
Post by: Hydra on October 10, 2017, 03:30:52 AM
Post by: Michi on October 10, 2017, 11:06:45 AM
Post by: Doc on October 11, 2017, 04:47:10 AM
...wait. I am that monster.
Alas, that time has passed.
If I should happen to die again, I will...hmm. Ask politely if I can use my ability for 3 more rounds, I guess, since Jigsaw died in Saw 3 but...did...stuff...until Saw 6? I think? That was a long time ago.
Post by: Michi on October 11, 2017, 05:41:47 AM
Post by: Michi on October 11, 2017, 05:51:32 AM
As is, however, it appears that we have a tie between Doc and Laurentus.
And it was chosen randomly that the villain to be sacrificed will be none other than...Doc!
Alas, Doc was NOT one of the Survivors.
In fact, his special ability was one to help the villains. It would have, in fact, binded all of the survivors for a turn, protecting them from attack.
As it stands, however, that's one less protection you'll have.
And with that, we go into our Killing Phase!
In this phase, you'll have the choice to:
A) Go on a Killing Spree for potential rewards (simply state in here your intent to do so)
B) Do Nothing
C) Use your ability (simply state in your PM your intent to do so)
D) Survivors only: Choose as team who to kill (in your PM if you wish to do so instead of using an ability)
You'll have till 11PM PST on 10/11 (aka tomorrow). Choose wisely.
Post by: Michi on October 11, 2017, 05:57:33 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 11, 2017, 06:24:04 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 11, 2017, 08:25:50 AM
Post by: Sapphiron on October 11, 2017, 09:33:44 AM
Post by: Mathyland on October 11, 2017, 12:50:02 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 11, 2017, 01:47:25 PM
Post by: Doc on October 11, 2017, 03:07:08 PM
Alas; I'm dead.
But the games are just beginning...
Post by: Aragonn on October 11, 2017, 06:41:38 PM
Post by: Justinian Ezkantion on October 11, 2017, 09:29:30 PM
Post by: Hydra on October 12, 2017, 12:00:32 AM
Post by: Wintermoot on October 12, 2017, 03:07:58 PM
Post by: Michi on October 12, 2017, 10:56:40 PM
Apologies for closing this late. I ended up falling asleep shortly after getting home from work, and I just now woke up. O:-)
Anyways...already this is turning into an interesting game. Here's the results of the Killing Spree:
>Aragonn has gained something regarding his ability for the next Accusatory/Killing Phase.
>Mathyland has gained an extra vote for the next phase.
>Hyrda has lost the use of their ability in the next Accusatory/Killing Phase.
>Wintermoot has gained an extra life
>Justinian Ezkantion has gained/lost nothing.
>Sapphiron has lost an ability.
As you can see, the first round of Killing Spree was fascinating, to say the least. Some gained, others lost, and one got nothing! Only time will tell what horrors and wonders await you in the future Sprees, should you choose to take part.
Oh, and outside of the Killing Spree, nothing happened. Did the Survivors choose someone that was protected? Did the Killing Spree have a hand? Did nothing happen in general? Nobody knows! Well, nobody except me, that is.
And with that, it's time for another Accusatory Phase, villains! Who are the Survivors out there? We'll end this phase at 4PM PST on 10/14.Be sure to be on the lookout tomorrow, for Friday the 13th. If you pop into the game that day to say "Happy Friday the 13th," you may gain a reward for your character!
Post by: Michi on October 12, 2017, 11:22:08 PM
@Wintermoot @Aragonn @Gerrick @Crushita @Sapphiron @Justinian Ezkantion @Hydra @Mathyland @North @Laurentus @taulover
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 12:01:03 AM
Post by: Sapphiron on October 13, 2017, 12:37:23 AM
Post by: Crushita on October 13, 2017, 04:33:32 AM
Vote: Justinian Ezkantion for constantly trying to claim to be the King of Ainur :P
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 05:09:50 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 05:21:05 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 05:33:35 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 05:51:06 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 05:59:16 AM
A rather amusing situation, I must say.
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 06:05:42 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 06:08:09 AM
Post by: Arenado on October 13, 2017, 06:33:19 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 06:50:25 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 07:01:30 AM
That said, I tend to think the odds are remote that you are a survivor (in more than the mathematical sense). I may just be too good at poking you to get a reaction. On top of that, I don't believe you would be so obvious as a survivor, but then again, that could be what you want people to think.
You are not omniscient, though, and you have already gotten one person killed who was on the villains' side. Why do you believe it would be different if you get me voted off?
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 07:05:42 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 07:09:13 AM
Unless of course you truly are convinced that I am a survivor, in which case, would you mind enlightening me why you are thus convinced?
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 07:25:07 AM
You personally can count the game as a win for yourself if your death leads to your team winning, but you being dead means you technically didn't win. If you're dead, you lost.
Honestly, I'm not convinced you're a survivor. But you're pretty high on my suspect list. Namely because you're targeting me solely to knock an experienced player out of the ring. And Gerrick too for bandwagoning.
Honestly, I don't know why I keep signing up to play these games. Nobody trusts me enough to keep me around. I think this is largely due to my strong success streak early on in my Werewolf career. I've tried to hang back and not draw attention to myself to avoid being brought into the spotlight, and I've only managed to get into the spotlight anyway. I hate being on death row...
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 07:45:12 AM
Also, I am confused. When did Gerrick bandwagon?
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 07:55:57 AM
That said, I hope you understand that I mean nothing personal by going after you. I simply have not seen a better suspect yet. Still friends?
Post by: Michi on October 13, 2017, 09:45:25 AM
Honestly, I don't know why I keep signing up to play these games. Nobody trusts me enough to keep me around. I think this is largely due to my strong success streak early on in my Werewolf career. I've tried to hang back and not draw attention to myself to avoid being brought into the spotlight, and I've only managed to get into the spotlight anyway. I hate being on death row...
Coming from someone who is normally a Day 1 or 2 lynch in Werewolf, I get where you're coming from on this. It seems like no matter what action you take, you're on someone's radar. Whether it be the Werewolves attempting to implicate you, a player taking your action as a guilty notion, or some other form when you're playing a role...regardless of whether you're a good or bad characters, it can be really tough when you become what feels like a token early-game kill.
But in that I say it's not necessarily a bad thing. That's either the wolves thinking you're either a formidable target to keep around for too long, or a good enough scapegoat for them so that it detracts the players from suspecting the real bad guys. And on the flipside, if you are/were a bad guy, it just means that you've played the previous games well enough on either or both sides to where people pick up on your strategies, regardless of your alliance. Sometimes those strategies bleed together to where regardless of your role, it raises flags.
But I wouldn't say take it personally. It just means you're a good and formidable player for either side of the field. You've played a well done bad guy in past games, and likewise you've played a well done good guy in past games. So for future games it just adds suspicion on what you could be. But regardless of your role, just be yourself and remember that nothing in here is ever personal, even if it gets heated and even if people bandwagon against you. It's still just a game, and it's a game where trust is an exceptionally rare thing since anyone here and their mother could be the bad guys of the game.
Post by: Mathyland on October 13, 2017, 12:50:36 PM
Now I'm curious what your reactions will be to the fact that Aragon might survive another day...
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 01:09:22 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 01:14:21 PM
That said, I am curious what sort of reaction you're even suspecting. Your sudden defense of Aragonn makes me wonder whether you and he aren't the defending pair.
Post by: Crushita on October 13, 2017, 02:45:22 PM
Oh hey Happy Friday the 13th!
Also, I must admit the Valeria Family drama that always happens in these games is one of the most entertaining aspects. Funny to see you guys turn on each other because you guys know each other so well xD
Anyway, praise RNGesus :P
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 02:53:11 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 03:05:44 PM
Anyhoo, I believe people have just been given too much space to quietly fall on bandwagons. To that end, I would like for all of us to try and give a reason for our votes. Joke votes are all well and good on the first day, but on the second, it serves to allow people to remain under the radar.
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 03:09:10 PM
That said, I concede your recent experiences may have changed you, since it's not fun to be targeted over and over. My question then becomes: if not you, who should I vote for?
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 03:11:31 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 03:16:09 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 03:20:19 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 03:20:36 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 03:25:28 PM
/me facepalms
"Go home, Aragonn. You're drunk."
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 03:28:06 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 03:33:08 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 03:36:28 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 03:40:37 PM
Post by: Arenado on October 13, 2017, 04:02:39 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 04:04:11 PM
Post by: Arenado on October 13, 2017, 04:24:37 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 04:25:30 PM
Post by: Sapphiron on October 13, 2017, 04:28:28 PM
Oh, to clarify my vote for Wintermoot once again, I was evidently filled to the brim with envy over his permanent gain (of a life) and my permanent loss (of my ability until I get another one, hopefully through killing spree).
Post by: Sapphiron on October 13, 2017, 04:31:25 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 04:35:06 PM
Post by: Arenado on October 13, 2017, 04:52:06 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 04:53:13 PM
Post by: Gerrick on October 13, 2017, 05:04:10 PM
Post by: taulover on October 13, 2017, 06:18:30 PM
Aragonn: 1
Wintermoot: 1
Justinian: 2
Laurentus: 3
And what do we do with the rule break?
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 06:22:30 PM
Post by: Michi on October 13, 2017, 07:07:52 PM
If a villain or survivor feels the overwhelming urge to reveal their ability(ies), then they just lose their ability(ies). Simple as that.
They'll just have to pray that they'll be successful in a Killing Spree and possibly earn a new one.
And since North did reveal what was meant to be secret, he loses his ability. Sorry North.
Post by: Arenado on October 13, 2017, 07:15:12 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 13, 2017, 07:57:50 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 13, 2017, 09:12:42 PM
Post by: Wintermoot on October 14, 2017, 05:59:12 PM
"He doesn't usually lose his cool like this." Perhaps you should look through the other Werewolf games for when I get targeted, particularly last game. I don't tend to take well to being voted for.But weren't you actually the wolf last game?
Vote for Sapphiron, cause his reasoning is random as hell which is very suspicious.
And it keeps me out of the Aragonn/Laurentus/Justinian mess. :P
Post by: Laurentus on October 14, 2017, 06:21:51 PM
Post by: Wintermoot on October 14, 2017, 06:57:46 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 14, 2017, 07:21:08 PM
Post by: Laurentus on October 14, 2017, 07:25:38 PM
Post by: taulover on October 14, 2017, 10:48:46 PM
My vote can't swing things anyway at this point, so I'll stay out of this and Accuse: taulover.
Post by: Michi on October 14, 2017, 11:10:05 PM
Post by: Michi on October 14, 2017, 11:40:45 PM
If you looked very carefully at the very end, you would have noticed a secret message.
(https://i.imgur.com/RwDkmTd.png)
It says: "Be sure to be on the lookout tomorrow, for Friday the 13th. If you pop into the game that day to say "Happy Friday the 13th," you may gain a reward for your character!"
Amusingly, only Crushita was observant enough to see this message.
*Looks at the date*
Oh hey Happy Friday the 13th!
So congratulations Crushita! Since you were the only person to respond, your reward is the following:
1 Maximum blood point
+a Solo Bonus: During the next Killing/Accusatory phase, you will be protected from the abilities of others as well as any attacks from the Survivors.
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Now, onto the the real issue here, the accused. I have here in my hand the name of the accused person that was decided upon by everyone.
Hang on...this can't be right. My result must have been changed! Did someone use an ability? Because now suddenly, Wintermoot is up on the chopping block!
Let me read this over....nope, it seems to be accurate. According to the statistics, here's the vote results:
Wintermoot: 4
Justinian Ezkantion: 3
Taulover: 2
It's certainly clear that Wintermoot in this light would certainly be the accused. What's odd is that this certainly wasn't what I had seen in the thread, so something must have happened. I even consulted the Oracle to speak me the name of the Accused...seven times! This was what the Oracle had to say:
Attempt 1.Wintermoot
Attempt 2.Wintermoot
Attempt 3. Wintermoot
Attempt 4. Wintermoot
Attempt 5.Justinian Ezkantian
Attempt 6. Justinian Ezkantian
Attempt 7. Justinian Ezkantian
Oracles are usually not known for being wrong (and I assume she was annoyed after the 4th attempt, so she named someone else)...so unless someone was somehow able to change the votes to others on the board, Wintermoot was clearly the rightly chosen Accused of this round.
Well, I guess that means it's time to reveal Dracula's origins since he won't be coming back.
Wait...pardon me? He's still alive? Oh, right, because he's got that extra life and all.
So I guess that means Dracula's allegiance as well as his ability are still left to the unknown at this time.
Wintermoot has lost his Extra Life from being chosen as the Majority Accused, due to the use of an ability.
And now it's time for another Killing Phase my trusty minions! Time for you to either:
A) Choose to do nothing this round and take a break.
B) Choose to go on a Killing Spree (state your intent in here)
C) Choose to use your ability (State your intent in PM)
D) Survivors: Choose to kill someone (State your intent in PM)
This round will end at 5PM PST on 10/15
Post by: Aragonn on October 14, 2017, 11:52:30 PM
Post by: taulover on October 15, 2017, 12:27:53 AM
And sure, I'll killing spree. What could possibly go wrong? :P
Post by: Laurentus on October 15, 2017, 12:30:07 AM
Post by: Sapphiron on October 15, 2017, 02:24:54 AM
Post by: Wintermoot on October 15, 2017, 03:20:05 AM
In any case, let's do killing spree.
Post by: Laurentus on October 15, 2017, 04:46:26 AM
Post by: Arenado on October 15, 2017, 06:46:16 AM
Post by: Hydra on October 15, 2017, 07:40:02 PM
How 'bout a nice killing spree to see if I could win as well? and hopefully beat this monster fever that I've been having
Post by: Michi on October 16, 2017, 03:39:07 AM
Firstly, whoever rigged the Random List Generator, shame on you.
I say that, because out of all of the people in the game, Wintermoot has had the worst luck after he gained that extra life.
First, the stockpile that was against Laurentus was shifted around due to the use of an ability, and while they were scattered about to the other villains on the chopping block, RLG chose Wintermoot to get the final vote. When I went for the other method of listing the three villains, it chose Wintermoot 4/7 times. So either way, it had a clear vendetta.
Secondly, EVERYONE that went on a Killing Spree this route got lucky. Strike that, everyone except Wintermoot. Here was random results:
Taulover:
Attempt 1: Lucky
Attempt 2: Unlucky
Attempt 3: Lucky
Aragonn:
Attempt 1: Lucky
Attempt 2: Lucky
Attempt 3: Unlucky
Sapphiron:
Attempt 1: Unlucky
Attempt 2: Lucky
Attempt 3: Lucky
Wintermoot:
Attempt 1: Unlucky
Attempt 2: Unlucky
Attempt 3: Lucky
Hydra:
Attempt 1: Unlucky
Attempt 2: Lucky
Attempt 3: Lucky
So like I said, everyone except Wintermoot had good luck.
BUT HERE'S THE KICKER.
Remember how in the last Killing Spree, Wintermoot's reward for his luck was a life? Yes, well apparently Random List Generator thought "Hey, let's give him that one again!"
Except, you know, this time since he was unlucky, it was the reverse.
So yeah. Random generators, everyone! Apparently they have an agenda against Monarchs.
Wintermoot, also known as Dracula, a completely normal villain, was killed. Apparently he tried to go after someone in the desert. I haven't the faintest idea why.
Wintermoot's ability was equivalent to the Negator. He could use his ability twice (aka he had 2 blood points), and it would have allowed him to disrupt the use of any other abilities on the field, including Survivor attacks.
We'll always remember him in spirit.
Off that note:
Aragonn has gained a new ability.
taulover has gained something in regards to their ability.
Sapphiron has gained something in regards to their ability.
Hydra has replenished a lost blood point if he had any lost previously.
Wintermoot has perished.
Oh, speaking of interesting things, there's been another development.
It seems as if the Survivors have chosen to attack during the night.
So look around for the dead body of Laurentus floating around. It shouldn't be so hard since he's just a demonic doll with an evil grin. And naturally, Laurentus was just a normal all around "Good Guy"
Laurentus' ability, as I'm sure you guessed already, allowed him automatically remove any votes from himself should a majority stack against him. Any votes removed would trickle onto the other villains on the Accuse list.
And with that double villain homicide over with, we come back to the Accusatory Phase!
So whip out those machetes, sharpen your claws, and let's get to finding those Survivors before it's too late.
We'll end this Accusatory stage and move on to the next Killing Phase on 10/17 at 8:40PM.
@Gerrick @North @Crushita @Justinian Ezkantion @Hydra @Aragonn @taulover @Mathyland @Sapphiron
Post by: Arenado on October 16, 2017, 05:03:09 AM
Post by: Michi on October 16, 2017, 05:11:00 AM
North:
Attempt 1: Lucky
Attempt 2: Unlucky
Attempt 3: Unlucky
>North has had something happen in regards to an ability.
Post by: Aragonn on October 16, 2017, 05:47:45 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 16, 2017, 05:49:09 AM
Son-of-a
Post by: Wintermoot on October 16, 2017, 02:34:16 PM
Well, that's that lol
Post by: Aragonn on October 16, 2017, 03:12:13 PM
Post by: Crushita on October 16, 2017, 10:27:02 PM
Vote...
Mathyland
Post by: Aragonn on October 16, 2017, 10:55:52 PM
So many targets to choose from. Such little evidence to go off of.
Post by: Gerrick on October 17, 2017, 12:25:25 AM
With all these chances for... well, chance... it's especially hard to find any patterns.
I suppose I'll Accuse: Justinian since (correct me if I'm wrong) he has yet to cast a vote and has made only like one post.
Post by: taulover on October 17, 2017, 12:34:04 AM
And yeah, seems to be nobody to pick.
Post by: Michi on October 17, 2017, 02:38:31 AM
Dang you can die just by going on a killing spree? Glad I didn't do that.
With all these chances for... well, chance... it's especially hard to find any patterns.
I suppose I'll Accuse: Justinian since (correct me if I'm wrong) he has yet to cast a vote and has made only like one post.
Speaking of which, I really do need to give him his penalty since it's been 2 phases.
But I'll wait until the end of this phase to give it to him so that it's not disrupting the votes.
@Justinian Ezkantion, you might want to start participating in voting. :P
Post by: Arenado on October 17, 2017, 09:27:44 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 17, 2017, 09:43:29 AM
Post by: Justinian Ezkantion on October 17, 2017, 11:13:19 AM
Post by: Mathyland on October 17, 2017, 02:31:49 PM
Crushita is the killer, obviouslyBut killers are good in this game and we want to vote the survivors...
Post by: Crushita on October 17, 2017, 03:20:36 PM
Change Vote: Justinian
Post by: Michi on October 17, 2017, 04:10:51 PM
I'll give my retaliatory accuse Crushita, then, using my second vote, I'll accuse Justinian.Crushita is the killer, obviouslyBut killers are good in this game and we want to vote the survivors...
That power existed for one phase only.
Post by: Mathyland on October 17, 2017, 04:50:50 PM
Oh. Sorry, I overlooked that. I'll accuse Justinian then.I'll give my retaliatory accuse Crushita, then, using my second vote, I'll accuse Justinian.Crushita is the killer, obviouslyBut killers are good in this game and we want to vote the survivors...
That power existed for one phase only.
Post by: Aragonn on October 17, 2017, 06:08:04 PM
Post by: Michi on October 18, 2017, 10:31:10 PM
Unfortunately for you guys, Justinian Ezkantion was just a simple villain, nothing more. But he was the villain Pinhead, and boy would he have been a good one to keep around if he were more with it. You see, whereas Dracula was a complete negator, Pinhead was a solo one--meaning he could target a specific person and render their ability useless. Though, they would still lose a point as if they used it.
So now it's time for another Killing Spree! You can choose to do one of the following:
A) Do nothing
B) Go on a killing Spree (state your intent, preferably in bold in here)
C) Use an ability (state your intent in PM)
D)Survivors: Choose as a team who to kill.
We'll cut to another Accusatory phase on 10/18, around 4PM PST.
@Sapphiron @Aragonn @taulover @Hydra : This is a notice that you didn't vote this last phase (though you may have spoken). If you do not vote in the next Accusatory phase, you'll be given a penalty.
Post by: Aragonn on October 18, 2017, 10:35:16 PM
Post by: Arenado on October 18, 2017, 10:41:52 PM
Post by: taulover on October 18, 2017, 10:58:31 PM
Post by: Michi on October 18, 2017, 11:07:52 PM
Fuck, I somehow didn't realize that the day phase was already supposed to have ended yesterday, and thought it'd end today at 8:40pm, oopsYeah, technically it was last night, but I ended up falling asleep around 7PMish unexpectedly.
Post by: Sapphiron on October 19, 2017, 12:33:44 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 19, 2017, 08:04:27 PM
Post by: Michi on October 21, 2017, 02:24:56 AM
First off, let's go with the results of the Killing Phase:
>North was unlucky enough to lose his life.
>Sapphiron was unlucky enough to lose his ability.
It seems nobody got lucky this time around.
But here's the kicker!
It seems as if the Survivors also decided to target North this turn. So unless he was lucky enough to get defended (he wasn't) or gain a life (which the opposite happened), he was simply just fated to die this turn.
As you know, North was playing the role of Ghostface, from the movie/TV franchise known as Scream. In those movies, the twist was always that Ghostface had a secret secondary partner. Likewise in this game, North did have a second "partner" which would come out to protect a villain of North's choosing. There was no limit as to who they could protect, or how many times in a row they could protect the same person.
So essentially, North was this game's Defender, but without limits.
And no, he was just a regular villain, not a Survivor (obviously).
So let's kick it into another Accusatory Phase. Get to figuring out the Survivors before they make the villains extinct!
@Sapphiron @Aragonn @taulover @Hydra this is just another heads up that if you don't vote this phase, you'll get a penalty.
@Gerrick @Crushita @Mathyland
We'll end this phase and go into our next Killing Spree on 10/22 at 7:30 PM PST.
Be aware, villains: If the survivors kill 3 more of you, they'll take the win unless you kill one of them first.
Post by: Arenado on October 21, 2017, 06:57:28 PM
Post by: Gerrick on October 21, 2017, 07:09:34 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 21, 2017, 07:28:20 PM
Also, it seems whoever these survivors are are trying to keep suspicion on me by eliminating the people who tried to eliminate me round two. Sounds devious. Are we sure we're the villains in this?
Post by: Sapphiron on October 22, 2017, 01:19:37 AM
Post by: Sapphiron on October 22, 2017, 01:22:10 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 22, 2017, 01:45:41 AM
Post by: Sapphiron on October 22, 2017, 08:42:46 AM
Post by: Aragonn on October 22, 2017, 02:34:03 PM
Post by: taulover on October 23, 2017, 12:58:02 AM
I'll follow in Aragonn's footsteps of not doing a retaliatory vote, and instead Accuse: Crushita. He's been somewhat relatively quiet this game. And jumped onto the Justinian bandwagon instead of trusting in Lord RNGesus (which is interesting because the votes were already in favor of Justinian at that time, so Crush was safe already anyway).
Post by: Hydra on October 23, 2017, 12:58:51 AM
There isn't much to go on, but I'll Vote: Gerrick both so I don't get punished and also it seems that he's never been on a killing spree, so his nights have seemed to be occupied on other matters.
Post by: Gerrick on October 23, 2017, 03:47:27 AM
Accuse: Aragonn
Unfortunately, he seems as good (or bad) a choice as any at this point.
Post by: taulover on October 23, 2017, 05:39:43 AM
Changing accuse: Gerrick
Post by: Aragonn on October 23, 2017, 06:35:31 AM
Post by: Crushita on October 23, 2017, 12:38:13 PM
Post by: Sapphiron on October 23, 2017, 11:52:33 PM
Post by: Aragonn on October 24, 2017, 12:10:22 AM
Post by: taulover on October 24, 2017, 12:10:53 AM
Post by: Michi on October 24, 2017, 12:41:58 AM
Post by: Michi on October 24, 2017, 12:57:41 AM
So in a twist of fate, it looks as if Aragonn was the chosen Accused this round. Sad to say, he wasn't a Survivor. In fact, Aragonn had the ability to make someone else the target of a random ability or Survivor kill. So if he felt that someone needed protecting, he could gamble on the Defender ability hitting that person, or make someone else the sacrifice.
Speaking of the Defender, Aragonn had also picked up Ghostface's ability to defend people.
So really, he had become a jack of all trades.
But now he's dead.
Good job.
NOT.
Speaking of dead things, it's time for another Killing Phase! As always:
1) Speak up in here if you want to go on a killing spree
2) Speak up in PM if you want to use an ability
3) Do nothing to do nothing.
4) Survivors: Speak up in PM if you want to kill someone this round.
This phase will end on 10/24 at 6PM PST.
@Mathyland, you did not vote in the last phase. This is your heads up to vote in the next Accusatory phase unless you want to get penalized.
Post by: Sapphiron on October 24, 2017, 05:51:50 PM
And great, two consecutive miscalculations ... my bad.
Post by: Aragonn on October 25, 2017, 01:04:50 AM
And once again I'm done for. Couldn't even make a difference this game...
Post by: Laurentus on October 25, 2017, 01:12:52 AM
Gotta love them Valerian trust issues, hey.
Post by: Michi on October 25, 2017, 01:30:05 AM
Sapphiron had nothing happen.
And today's choice of victim was Hydra aka Pennywise. Which really sucks for the villains, because Hydra had the ability of the Seer to scan for villains and Survivors. Naturally, Hydra wasn't a Survivor himself.
But now it looks like you're finally down a Seer.
So now it's time to kick in another Accusatory Phase. We're down to 5 players, so make this round count! If you guess wrong again, the Survivors will equal the Villains, and thus they'll take the win.
We'll end this phase on 10/26 at 6:30PM. Whether we go into another Killing Phase or not will be dictated by the end of this round.
Post by: Michi on October 25, 2017, 01:33:53 AM
Post by: Mathyland on October 25, 2017, 02:43:53 AM
Post by: Hydra on October 25, 2017, 03:03:16 AM
Rip me...
Post by: taulover on October 25, 2017, 03:19:54 AM
Quote from: Rule 8
In the Killing Phase, you can choose to go on a Killing Spree, Do Nothing, or use your ability if it's usable. For the Survivors, they'll have the choice of those, or to Attack a Villain.So the wolves cannot kill any of us if they enter into a Killing Spree. This means that anyone who went on a Killing Spree the same night that someone was killed by the Survivors is a Villain.
This reduces the game down to a simple logic puzzle. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKDiOLKI1JhJv6qJW8gEOM4OX3zLIgvUT2scdlzswPY/edit#gid=0d=0)
Thus, our only suspects for Survivors are Gerrick, Crushita, and Mathyland.
Other than this, I have no big hints, but Gerrick has been rather suspicious already. Thus:
Accuse: Gerrick
Hopefully it isn't too late.
Post by: Mathyland on October 25, 2017, 03:43:34 AM
So Hydra's post got me thinking, and I suspect we've figured something out.That actually makes a lot of sense. Good job. I'll change my vote to GerrickQuote from: Rule 8In the Killing Phase, you can choose to go on a Killing Spree, Do Nothing, or use your ability if it's usable. For the Survivors, they'll have the choice of those, or to Attack a Villain.So the wolves cannot kill any of us if they enter into a Killing Spree. This means that anyone who went on a Killing Spree the same night that someone was killed by the Survivors is a Villain.
This reduces the game down to a simple logic puzzle. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKDiOLKI1JhJv6qJW8gEOM4OX3zLIgvUT2scdlzswPY/edit#gid=0d=0)
Thus, our only suspects for Survivors are Gerrick, Crushita, and Mathyland.
Other than this, I have no big hints, but Gerrick has been rather suspicious already. Thus:
Accuse: Gerrick
Hopefully it isn't too late.
Post by: Sapphiron on October 25, 2017, 01:25:56 PM
Post by: Crushita on October 25, 2017, 05:00:30 PM
Vote:Gerrick
Post by: Gerrick on October 26, 2017, 12:17:16 AM
Post by: taulover on October 26, 2017, 12:38:25 AM
Accuse: tauloverAh. I see. Thank you for confirming my suspicions.
Post by: Gerrick on October 26, 2017, 12:40:03 AM
Post by: Laurentus on October 27, 2017, 01:55:12 PM
Post by: taulover on October 27, 2017, 04:10:05 PM
This game still going? @Pengu, if you're too busy, I can take over as host.Unless we're severely lucky, the game ends this round anyway, so it's probably better for Pengu just to finish this up.
Post by: Michi on October 27, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
That being said, the round is closed, so stay tuned for results.
Post by: Michi on October 27, 2017, 04:53:30 PM
But wouldn't you know it? Gerrick had an extra life, so he's still alive. Whether he's a villain or a Survivor is still a mystery...
I guess that means it's down to the Killing Phase...how appropriate.
So choose 1 of the following:
1. Do nothing
2. Go on a Killing Spree
3. Use an ability (in PM)
4.Survivors: Choose a villain to kill.
Happy killing!
This phase will end either on 10/27 at 3pm, or when everyone has made their decision.
Post by: taulover on October 27, 2017, 06:13:47 PM
We need some serious RNG to even have a chance at winning at this point, so why not.
Post by: Sapphiron on October 28, 2017, 09:18:17 AM
Post by: Michi on October 29, 2017, 01:07:41 AM
Firstly, here's the results of the Killing Spree:
Sapphiron has gained a life
taulover has lost a life.
The most interesting thing is the fact that one lost a life, while one gained one.
What's more interesting is that Sapphiron was the target for the Survivors, but that convenient extra life saved him. Whereas someone still died because of Taulover's luck.
Nonetheless, Taulover's death marks the end of the game, because now the remaining villains equal the remaining Survivors.
And as you correctly guessed, those Survivors were Gerrick and Crushita!
A well played game, both of you. But kudos to everyone who made it to the end, and stayed tuned...both night and Killing Spree results in their entirety will be posted shortly after. But until then, feel free to talk about the game here. What were your favorite moments? What were some improvements you'd like to see for future games? What was it like playing a game where everyone had an ability? Is this something you'd like to see done again?
Post by: taulover on October 29, 2017, 01:18:35 AM
I shall be more devout in my observance of Lord RNG in the future.
Post by: taulover on October 29, 2017, 01:30:50 AM
I was the sole member of Hydra's seer army, having been scanned the turn before he died. Sole credit to figuring the Killing Sprees puzzle thing goes to him. I wasn't really focusing on the game of the first few rounds; otherwise, we probably could've broken the game earlier and pinned our suspicions on Gerrick/Crushita.
We decided to wait until the next round before revealing our discovery, as the day phase was already almost over, but by the time we revealed it was essentially too late. Though if we had known that Pengu would wait an extra day before ending the phase, we could've certainly been able to take advantage of that time and possibly turn the tide.
I do think that RNG (as well as the high number of lives people were getting) seems to have played too much of a role in this game, especially in making it difficult to figure out who the Survivors were (though seriously, we should've figured it out earlier from the Killing Sprees patterns) and then the Survivors incredibly difficult to lynch even when we knew who they were.
To paraphrase what Wintermoot said at the start of the game, this is probably the most complex game of Werewolf I've played, and while that does bring some drawbacks, it was quite interesting and a nice change of scenery from earlier games.
Post by: Michi on October 29, 2017, 01:40:02 AM
Crushita (The Instigator): Had the ability to double the votes on someone in the voting phase.
Sapphiron (The Martyr): Had an extra life with one use, rather than having blood points.
Mathyland (The Witch): Could curse someone from saying a specific word within reason. The cursed player would suffer death if said word was spoken.
The most common roles (Seer, Defender) had 3 Maximum Blood Points, the more complicated roles (Negator, Rigger, etc...) had 2 blood points. The more OP roles (Necromancer, etc...) had only 1 blood point. And Sapphiron's role (The Martyr) had a single use, though that could be retconned via picking up an Auto-Ability...or of course just by getting an extra-life.
Phase 1:
Doc and Laurentus were the chosen accused. Doc was chosen by Randomizer as the Accused.
Killing Spree 1:
Aragonn: Auto-use of ability for a phase
Sapphiron: Lost a Life (so "lost" the ability)
Mathyland: Gained an extra vote for the next phase.
*Justinian: Became the automatic target of an activated ability (which was the Survivor's attack).
Hydra: Lost the use of their ability in the next phase.
Wintermoot: Gained an extra life.
Abilities 1:
*The Survivors chose to attack Mathyland.
North chose to protect Justinian
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Phase 2:
North lost his ability of defense due to a rule violation
Crushita gained a Maximum Blood Point as well as complete protection for spotting the hidden message on Friday the 13th.
Laurentus used his ability, making Wintermoot the chosen Accused. Due to his extra life, however, Wintermoot survived.
Killing Spree 2:
Aragonn: Gained North's "Defender" Ability
taulover: Gained an Auto-Ability usage which would come into effect if his name popped up in the suspect list in the Accusatory Phase.
Sapphiron: Gained an Auto-Ability usage which would come into effect automatically if attacked.
Wintermoot: Lost a life
North: Became an automatic target for an ability in the next Killing Phase.
Hydra: Replenished a blood point (meaning nothing happened since he hadn't used any yet).
Abilities 2:
*The Survivors went after North.
Aragonn's auto-ability was used, his chosen target was Laurentus. Since the only ability in use was a Survivor attack, Laurentus replaced North as the Survivor target.
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Phase 3:
*Justinian was chosen by the majority as the main Accused.
Killing Spree 3:
North: Lost his Life
Sapphiron: Lost his ability (but the Auto-Ability still remained)
Abilities 3:
Hydra scanned Taulover (a fellow villain)
*The Survivors attacked North (double kill!)
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Phase 4:
Aragonn was chosen as the main Accused.
Killing Spree 4:
Sapphiron: Lost a Maximum Blood Point. But since the ability was built as a one-time-use (unless lucky enough to get an auto-ability usage), nothing happened.
Ability 4:
*The Survivors targeted Hydra
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Phase 5:
Gerrick was the chosen Accused, but survived due to him using his ability to resurrect himself.
Killing Spree 5:
Sapphiron: Gained a life
taulover: Lost a Life
Ability 5:
*The Survivors targeted Sapphiron (who had both an extra life and an auto-ability, so he lost 1 of his 3 lives).
Post by: Mathyland on October 29, 2017, 01:49:12 AM
Post by: taulover on October 29, 2017, 01:57:34 AM
Post by: Michi on October 29, 2017, 01:58:56 AM
It definitely was a bit more complex than normal games, but you can ask Wintermoot...I was getting really into this one. Like with CYOA, I really wanted to make it a bit different and a bit more complex. I almost thought of just tying the two in, but I figured that would make it even more complex and confusing, so they're separate.
I think my favorite part was changing up some of the popular rules spinning them around a bit. The whole "You can't reveal your role" bit has been done so much, that the idea of actually just letting everyone choose their role seemed like the most logical step to take. The everyone-having abilities thing came more from a past game I played on XKI. It was a Ghostbusters game where EVERYONE had the ability to scan (or I believe defend) 1 time, but there was a multitude of factors that would screw up those scans.
The idea of branching that out to multiple ideas intrigued me. Plus, I also had the idea of making a Battle Royale type of type of thing, and after playing around with the idea in my head a bit, I thought "Nah, I'll just make everyone have different abilities, make everyone only get limited uses on them, and then throw in an option in the night so that people can get more ability uses..." and thus Blood Points and Killing Sprees were born. Of course, I didn't want people to always get rewarded for going on a Killing Spree, so it became the sort of Reward >>>> Consequence thing in the following way:
~Replenish a Blood Point >>>> Lose a Blood Point
~Earn a Maximum Blood Point >>>> Lose a Maximum Blood Point
~Learn a new ability >>>> Lose an ability
~Use an ability for free automatically >>>> Lose usage to your ability temporarily
~Double votes for you in the next phase >>>> Lose ability to vote in the next phase (counts as an "Inactive" vote and goes towards the penalty)
~Gain an Extra Life >>>> Lose a Life
I didn't consider the consequence of making the Survivors choose between the main 3 things OR killing someone, and I think of I use this again, I'll make it so they can use both an ability or go on a bonus spree AND kill someone...that way someone can't track their identities as easily. :P
But I intentionally made both Jason and Michael the Survivors because their abilities are both Day-Phase abilities. That, and because having a bad guy with a resurrection-ability makes the game a bit more interesting, since you won't know his actual identity until he's dead...so you'll have to hope you're going after the right person.
Post by: Michi on October 29, 2017, 02:01:41 AM
I still think that game could have gone on, because I used my ability the last night. (Or at least, I tried to, but Pengu didn't respond to my questions about my ability) If my targeted person had died from saying the word I specified and died, that could have possibly led to a villain win.
Like all Werewolf games normally go, I do things in the order of how they were done. Tau and Sapphiron chose to go on their Killing Spree long before you asked about the ability, so their results would have come first. Likewise, the Survivors already chose their victim beforehand, so even then if they hadn't chosen Sapphiron, their result would have went through first.
Regardless, the game would have ended because even if your ability was successful, Taulover's result was still the same, so Tau would have died.
The ability doesn't affect any past things that are said, it affects future things that are said after you've established the taboo word.
So either way, the game would have ended no matter what.
And the reason I didn't respond was simply that. By that point, the game was already decided.
Normally though, the Witch doesn't get a choice as to the target. They simply choose the taboo word, and the first person to say it after that point gets killed.
To answer your question for future games with that role though:
1. The word has to be exact. If I say the taboo word is "Lose" and someone says "Lost" then it doesn't count. The only exception is if the word is something like "Small" and someone says "Smaller" since Small is actually fully in that word. However, in that case it'd be at the host's discretion as to whether that technicality actually counts.
2. If you die, the ability dies. So if you die after you've made a word taboo and no one says it, then that word is no longer taboo.
Oh, fun fact: If you say the word that you made taboo before anyone else says it, you die. It's one reason I advise against making it incredibly common words.
Post by: Mathyland on October 29, 2017, 02:06:27 AM
I was just saying that I didn't necessarily think the rule that the game ends if the number of survivors equals the number of villains was a good rule. If that rule wasn't there, the villains would have had a chance at winning.I still think that game could have gone on, because I used my ability the last night. (Or at least, I tried to, but Pengu didn't respond to my questions about my ability) If my targeted person had died from saying the word I specified and died, that could have possibly led to a villain win.
Like all Werewolf games normally go, I do things in the order of how they were done. Tau and Sapphiron chose to go on their Killing Spree long before you asked about the ability, so their results would have come first. Likewise, the Survivors already chose their victim beforehand, so even then if they hadn't chosen Sapphiron, their result would have went through first.
Regardless, the game would have ended because even if your ability was successful, Taulover's result was still the same, so Tau would have died.
The ability doesn't affect any past things that are said, it affects future things that are said after you've established the taboo word.
So either way, the game would have ended no matter what.
Post by: Michi on October 29, 2017, 02:15:47 AM
I was just saying that I didn't necessarily think the rule that the game ends if the number of survivors equals the number of villains was a good rule. If that rule wasn't there, the villains would have had a chance at winning.I still think that game could have gone on, because I used my ability the last night. (Or at least, I tried to, but Pengu didn't respond to my questions about my ability) If my targeted person had died from saying the word I specified and died, that could have possibly led to a villain win.
Like all Werewolf games normally go, I do things in the order of how they were done. Tau and Sapphiron chose to go on their Killing Spree long before you asked about the ability, so their results would have come first. Likewise, the Survivors already chose their victim beforehand, so even then if they hadn't chosen Sapphiron, their result would have went through first.
Regardless, the game would have ended because even if your ability was successful, Taulover's result was still the same, so Tau would have died.
The ability doesn't affect any past things that are said, it affects future things that are said after you've established the taboo word.
So either way, the game would have ended no matter what.
Actually, that rule is an absolute necessity.
Think of it this way:
2 bad guys survive, 2 good guys survive. Everyone knows who the bad guys are at this point, so it becomes:
The bad guys wait for the good guys to vote (1 vote against each of them)
The bad guys vote two against one of the good guys.
A good guy is voted out.
Night Phase, a good guy is killed.
Bad guys win.
OR
Both bad guys create a tie against the good guys.
Night phase, a good guy is killed.
Next phase: 2 bad guys survive, 1 good guy remains.
Both bad guys vote against the good guy.
They automatically win.
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The reason that rule exists is because at that point, there's absolutely no point in continuing the game. The bad guys basically have it in the bag at that point. Even if a tie happens in that phase, they have the night phase to kill someone, and then they've got the automatic majority in the later phase.
Even if it's 3 on 3, it's the same story. They can create an automatic majority or a tie, kill one person in the next night, and then have an automatic majority in the next day.
That rule exists to keep it brief instead of dragging it out, and it's been the win condition for the bad guys since the game itself was even created (and I'm talking about long before I introduced it myself here).
Not to mention, in this game you had a bad guy that could double a vote count against someone. So no matter what, unless you had gotten lucky and gotten Crushita rather than going after Gerrick in the last Accusatory Phase, the good guys stood no chance...and continuing it when it's 2-2 would have been completely unnecessary since the victors were obvious at that point.
Post by: taulover on October 29, 2017, 02:22:31 AM
Actually, that rule is an absolute necessity.That's not necessarily true in this game, with all the extra lives and defensive abilities.
Think of it this way:
2 bad guys survive, 2 good guys survive. Everyone knows who the bad guys are at this point, so it becomes:
The bad guys wait for the good guys to vote (1 vote against each of them)
The bad guys vote two against one of the good guys.
A good guy is voted out.
Night Phase, a good guy is killed.
Bad guys win.
OR
Both bad guys create a tie against the good guys.
Night phase, a good guy is killed.
Next phase: 2 bad guys survive, 1 good guy remains.
Both bad guys vote against the good guy.
They automatically win.
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The reason that rule exists is because at that point, there's absolutely no point in continuing the game. The bad guys basically have it in the bag at that point. Even if a tie happens in that phase, they have the night phase to kill someone, and then they've got the automatic majority in the later phase.
Even if it's 3 on 3, it's the same story. They can create an automatic majority or a tie, kill one person in the next night, and then have an automatic majority in the next day.
That rule exists to keep it brief instead of dragging it out, and it's been the win condition for the bad guys since the game itself was even created (and I'm talking about long before I introduced it myself here).
That being said, I think that having so many different defensive abilities, even on the side of the Villains, ironically made things more difficult, since you often couldn't eliminate suspects.
Post by: Michi on October 29, 2017, 02:30:43 AM
If Hydra had figured it out sooner, or if I hadn't disclosed any results of the Killing Sprees, this game could have gone in a few different directions.
Post by: Hydra on October 29, 2017, 04:44:38 AM
If Hydra had figured it out sooner, or if I hadn't disclosed any results of the Killing Sprees, this game could have gone in a few different directions.
Unfortunately, I wasn't really paying attention to the game until I had to vote to save myself from lynching. :P
Post by: Laurentus on October 29, 2017, 12:02:16 PM
Also, I was convinced Sapphiron was the seer when he went after Wintermoot for such a random reason.
Post by: Gerrick on October 29, 2017, 05:45:14 PM
I thought everyone would notice the whole "if the survivors killed, then those who went on killing sprees are innocent" thing right off the bat, though, but since nobody picked up on it until much later, we just kept on killing.
And when Crushita noticed the secret "Happy Halloween" reward, he told me about it. But since nobody else noticed it, I thought it would automatically make us suspicious, so I didn't do it.
And I intentionally put myself out there during the last two rounds to draw suspicion away from Crushita since I knew I could resurrect myself.
Looks like it all paid off. :D