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Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on July 31, 2017, 02:57:25 AM
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Centuries ago, there lived a happy people known as the
Oratians.  They were a proud people that lived in huts and enjoyed a diet of
coconuts and fish.  Every afternoon like clockwork, they would get out of bed, shedding their
old skins (which they had to do daily), and would begin their daily activities around Ora
Island...which included fishing, making clothes and jewelry, and teaching the young through
sermons about the old gods that they believed watched over them.  On occasion,
they would even partake in bonfires, where they would dance and sing and
have a festival of sorts while the moon was out, normally when it was full moon.
Even though life seemed peaceful, this was soon to end.
Wolves were said to have somehow made it to the island, though they were never seen before.
One night, however, a scream was heard in the distance, as villagers went to investigate.
Lilli, the chief’s daughter and one of the village’s most prominent dancers, was
found laying in a pool of her own blood, dead to the world.  The wolves had begun their attack.
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Welcome to Werewolf 12, a game in a series of games centered around paranoia and deception.  Much like the other 11 games, in this one it is your job to figure out who the bad guy is and stop them before they destroy the town and all of its inhabitants.  If you’re the bad guy, however, then your job is to find ways to pin the blame on other players so that they’ll be killed off.  The game will conclude when either A) The villagers have successfully snuffed out the bad guy, or B) the wolves have killed enough people for them to steal the win.

This game, however, has an unfortunate glitch.  During each day, a small tidbit of information will appear in the form of a clue about your killer.  If you can piece together the clues before it’s too late, you’ll have your killer’s identity and can tip the odds in your favor.

Now, here are the roles of the game:

The Guardian
During each night, the guardian can choose to either scan a player for their role, or protect them.  If they scan a good player, they can add them to the fold...whereas with bad players, they’ll have to convince the others to vote against them.  If they choose to protect someone, they can’t choose the same person twice in a row.  It’s also noted that being protected by a Guardian means that a scan from the other guardian on the same person will fail.  The Guardian will keep their powers for as long as the Decoy lives.  There are two (2) guardians, and neither know who the other is.

The Decoy
Like the villagers, this role does nothing at night, but votes in the day time.  Also, if scanned, it will be deflected as if they were protected.  However, if they are lynched while the Guardians are still alive, then the Guardians lose their powers.  But in an interesting twist, if the Decoy is killed they will leave behind a major clue as to the identity of the Grand Wolf.

The Werewolf
During each night, the werewolf can choose to attack and kill one of the player characters off, thinning down the playing field if successful.  There are a total of two (2) werewolves.

The Grand Wolf
The Grand Wolf is a role that is unknown by the Werewolves (though they know the Werewolves).    During each day that they post, they’ll attempt to put pressure on a person other than themselves to get them lynched.  Being a cocky role, however, they’ll also carefully allude to their role in very subtle ways.  If the Grand Wolf is eliminated, then the game is won by the villagers.  Unlike their underling, the Grand Wolf does not kill each night, preferring not to get their hands dirty.

The Village Fool
This is possibly the cruelest role in the game.  The Village Fool knows the identity of both the Grand Wolf as well as the Decoy, however they’re barred from doing anything with such knowledge.  In fact, they’re doomed to go through the game as looking the most guilty, and will come up in scans as a “Werewolf.”  If the village fool dies by the hand of the villagers, the werewolves will gain an extra kill in the night.

The Villagers 
During each day, these players, along with the rest of the roles, will vote on who they believe is the bad guy.  During each night, these folks will rest up and do nothing.


And here’s some good old fashioned rules:

1) Power roles cannot reveal their roles, meaning the Guardian (and obviously Werewolf, but why would they out themselves?) can’t reveal, disclose, hint, or suggest that they’re a power role or who they’ve used their powers on.

2) Adding onto that: Players who did not receive a PM are villagers.  If you did/didn’t get a PM, do not discuss it in the thread.

3)  Power roles each night will send PMs to me discussing their targets.

4) The game will be won if the Grand Wolf is killed, or if the number of living villagers equals the remaining wolves.

5) This is a game of guessing under pressure.  It’s a game full of deceptions meant to trick you, and a game where you can only trust yourself (and the Guardians + friends if they find you).  Use your wits to outwit the bad guy and win the game for the good guys.

6)  Phases will last as followed: Day Phase will last 48 hours, Night Phase will last 24 hours.

7) The game will begin in the Day phase.

8 ) Majority votes cannot equal “Abstain/No Vote/No Kill.” If a majority vote isn’t met, someone will be picked and killed off.

9) It goes without saying, but if you're dead, you can say your goodbye (without giving game-breaking spoilers), and then watch and converse in the dead PM.

And that’s the workings of the game.

We will start voting now, and the phase will end on August 1st, 2017 at 8PM PST.

Living players list:
Wintermoot
Aragonn: Werewolf, killed by the crowd.
North - Villager, killed by strangulation by the werewolves.
Gerrick
xXTheHydraXx
taulover - Guardian, Killed by the Werewolves
BraveSirRobin - Villager, Killed by the sound of a child's laughter on loop for 24 hours.
La Hareng Rouge
DekuNut
Doc - Villager, Killed by unluck of the draw.
Crushita - Guardian, Killed by the Werewolves
Fayt - Villager, killed by being forgotten by most.
Mathyland - Villager, killed by the Werewolves
Barnes -Werewolf, Killed by jazz music on loop
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: DekuNut on July 31, 2017, 03:09:56 AM
Uh
Hi guys
Vote: Doc
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Doc on July 31, 2017, 04:34:10 AM
oh come on
i knew i shouldn't have joked about being lynched day one

couple of questions to clarify actually:
Guardians both scan and protect, right? Do they PM these individually, as in 'I scan X', wait for your response, and then choose 'I protect X/Y', or must they say 'I scan X and protect X/Y' at the same time?

Does the Wolves killing the Decoy have the same effect as the Decoy being lynched? I ask because it seemed to suggest only lynching would remove Guardian powers, but since Wolves don't scan it wouldn't make sense to have them worry about registering as protected.

The Wolves both know each other's identity, but the Guardians do not, correct?

Since the Grand Wolf cannot kill, aren't there essentially three win conditions; killing both Wolves (because people will stop dying at night), having an equal number of villagers to wolves (does this include the Grand Wolf?), and killing the Grand Wolf? Or does the Grand Wolf gain the ability to kill if his subordinates are both lynched? I especially ask to clarify this because it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me that the villagers would keep lynching each other after the killings have stopped.

So since there are 14 people in this one, assuming 7 people vote to kill X, and 3 abstain, 3 fail to vote, and 1 votes no lynch, does that mean it's not a majority, or are 'abstain/no vote/no lynch' are reckoned separately?
What is the process for changing your mind (such as if, say, DekuNut rightly decides I am not in fact a wolf); do you simply count the latest vote, or do people need to go back and edit their earlier one?
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: taulover on July 31, 2017, 05:37:20 AM
@Coco Bandicoot could we get a player list? It might also be a good idea to mention all of them...
Guardians both scan and protect, right? Do they PM these individually, as in 'I scan X', wait for your response, and then choose 'I protect X/Y', or must they say 'I scan X and protect X/Y' at the same time?
To me at least, the either/or wording seems to suggest that the Guardians can each only do one.

Another question: what is the win condition, if any, of the Village Fool?
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on July 31, 2017, 12:33:11 PM
oh come on
i knew i shouldn't have joked about being lynched day one

couple of questions to clarify actually:
Guardians both scan and protect, right? Do they PM these individually, as in 'I scan X', wait for your response, and then choose 'I protect X/Y', or must they say 'I scan X and protect X/Y' at the same time?

Does the Wolves killing the Decoy have the same effect as the Decoy being lynched? I ask because it seemed to suggest only lynching would remove Guardian powers, but since Wolves don't scan it wouldn't make sense to have them worry about registering as protected.

The Wolves both know each other's identity, but the Guardians do not, correct?

Since the Grand Wolf cannot kill, aren't there essentially three win conditions; killing both Wolves (because people will stop dying at night), having an equal number of villagers to wolves (does this include the Grand Wolf?), and killing the Grand Wolf? Or does the Grand Wolf gain the ability to kill if his subordinates are both lynched? I especially ask to clarify this because it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me that the villagers would keep lynching each other after the killings have stopped.

So since there are 14 people in this one, assuming 7 people vote to kill X, and 3 abstain, 3 fail to vote, and 1 votes no lynch, does that mean it's not a majority, or are 'abstain/no vote/no lynch' are reckoned separately?
What is the process for changing your mind (such as if, say, DekuNut rightly decides I am not in fact a wolf); do you simply count the latest vote, or do people need to go back and edit their earlier one?

1. They have both abilities, but can only choose one to use each night, and both can use the same ability in the same night since they don't know each other.

2. If the decoy dies in any way, then the power removal and clue reveal come into play.

3. Correct, only the wolves know each other...while the Grand Wolf knows the wolves, but the reversal isn't true.

4. The only win condition for the villagers is to kill the Grand Wolf.  Even if the others are alive, if the Grand Wolf is dead, the villagers automatically win.  Killing the subordinates is ideal so they can figure out the clues in peace.  Before you ask, any attack against the Grand Wolf by a werewolf is automatically defended.

5. You can change your mind as much as you want.  Just keep in mind that too much flip flopping tends to make you look guilty.

@taulover: they share the win condition of the villagers.  If they remain alive when the Grand Wolf is killed, then they share the win.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: BraveSirRobin on July 31, 2017, 04:45:09 PM
Ooh we're starting!!  Wait so won't it be obvious though that the grand wolf is the grand wolf if they're supposed to allude to their role?  Can't we just vote for them or something?  Or am I missing a big piece here :P
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: taulover on July 31, 2017, 05:38:32 PM
4. The only win condition for the villagers is to kill the Grand Wolf.  Even if the others are alive, if the Grand Wolf is dead, the villagers automatically win.  Killing the subordinates is ideal so they can figure out the clues in peace.  Before you ask, any attack against the Grand Wolf by a werewolf is automatically defended.
So the Grand Wolf doesn't gain the ability to kill of lynched? Doc asked that, and I don't see the question being answered here.

Also, bumping my first question:
@Coco Bandicoot could we get a player list? It might also be a good idea to mention all of them...
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on July 31, 2017, 08:04:39 PM
I'm just gonna throw a Vote: BraveSirRobin in here to keep my day one activity.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Barnes on July 31, 2017, 08:51:55 PM
I vote DekuNut for jumping in mighty early. Too early, even.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: taulover on July 31, 2017, 09:05:41 PM
I'm just gonna throw a Vote: BraveSirRobin in here to keep my day one activity.
I don't see an inactivity lynch rule in this game...
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on July 31, 2017, 09:12:46 PM
I'm just gonna throw a Vote: BraveSirRobin in here to keep my day one activity.
I don't see an inactivity lynch rule in this game...
I assumed there was one since almost every game before this one had one.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: DekuNut on August 01, 2017, 03:54:44 AM
I vote DekuNut for jumping in mighty early. Too early, even.
Aww, you do care <3
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 02, 2017, 01:16:52 AM
Hmm...

I'll vote Aragonn for using first term activity as an excuse to vote someone off.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 02, 2017, 04:15:20 AM
It was an honest mistake, but I'm not rescinding my vote. Somebody has to be voted off every day phase, and yes, that is in the rules. I checked this time. :P
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: DekuNut on August 02, 2017, 04:27:32 AM
I know that's a common rule, so I'm not going to fault Aragonn for that. Looking like a busy day phase for you?
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Barnes on August 02, 2017, 04:27:44 AM
It was an honest mistake, but I'm not rescinding my vote. Somebody has to be voted off every day phase, and yes, that is in the rules. I checked this time. :P
Even if you did, it would've been a bit late for that, as...
the phase will end on August 1st, 2017 at 8PM PST.
Your post is timestamped at 9:15:20 PM PST.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Arenado on August 02, 2017, 06:13:00 AM
I dont suppose we can put a list of players at the beginning?
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 02, 2017, 11:04:38 AM
Apologies, everyone.  Yesterday ended up being a long day at work, and I ended up passing out soon as I made it home.  I'll be tallying the results of the phase on my lunch break.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Doc on August 02, 2017, 11:23:05 AM
Grr. Shoulda just posted a vote for one of the other two and kept myself off the chopping block on the off-chance it'd be counted instead of just mentally assuming I'd have more time to suss people out.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 02, 2017, 11:03:28 PM
So sorry about that, folks.  And I'll post the player tags in here since it doesn't let me edit the post with them, but I'll add the player list to the main post in just a sec.

Tau & Doc:   The Grand Wolf doesn't gain the ability to kill if both werewolves are killed.  However, something else may end up happening if you off the werewolves before figuring out the Grand Wolf's identity.  What it is, exactly, you'll find out when it happens.

And correct, as of this moment there's no inactivity rule, but quietness can always lead to suspiciousness, and the after-day shoutout to alert players of your quietness.  Take @Gerrick, @xXTheHydraXx, @La Hareng Rouge, @Crushita, @Fayt, and @Maythland for example.  That's 6 quiet players right there in the first day.

As for those who did speak and vote, here's your vote results:

DekuNut: Vote Doc
Aragonn: Vote BraveSirRobin
Barnes: Vote DekuNut
Wintermoot: Vote Aragonn

So I see you're leaving it up to fate to decide who lives and who dies...clever.  Well, let's get cracking and decide who among those vote will be leaving the village today to take an extended vacation to the afterlife.

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Congratulations, Doc, it looks like you've been chosen!

Now, just so you all are aware, Doc was one of the villagers.  Nothing special, mind you, since that's really just code word for cannon fodder while you guys try to off the bad guys.  Nothing like piles of innocent dead bodies until you find the proverbial needle in the haystack, right?  So Doc will just be the beginning of that building haystack, and I'm sure there will be many more to follow in his wake.

Now, why don't you all rest your heads and get some sleep?  Power roles, send me your PMs with your targets for the night, and we'll begin the next phase on August 3rd.  This one might be a tad later since I'm going on a date tomorrow around 1PM PST, and unless I get all of the targets in early, I don't want to cut the phase short...so I'll most likely be posting it a bit later in the day as opposed to the normal 24 hours (aka 4PM).
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 02, 2017, 11:07:46 PM
@Mathyland
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: La Hareng Rouge on August 02, 2017, 11:18:01 PM
I had no idea the game even started.  :o
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Gerrick on August 03, 2017, 05:13:01 AM
Aw, bad luck again, Doc.

And I was just waiting for the list before I made a vote.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Doc on August 03, 2017, 06:03:25 AM
Well, on the bright side I can joke about being lynched day 1 in perpetuity now that it's a recurring trend.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 03, 2017, 06:48:40 PM
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The night had subsided, giving itself away to the approaching daytime.  The villagers
hobbled out of their beds, eager to get the day started and find the beast and slay it.
Everyone made their way to the village square, as the chief counted to make sure everyone was there.
However, he would soon discover that the village was another body short, as the beast had struck
once again, taking claim to another life.  The villagers had decided to split up and
search the village for the missing person, only to find them sliced open and hung near the village’s
Tiki hut...the prominent source of where they would drink themselves silly and sing songs of
daring heroes that had once attempted to brave out of the island and into the world beyond.
It was on this day, actually, though several years earlier that one such villager known as
Dianten had left the island in search of adventure.  He had barely made it onto the ocean with his raft as
It had caught itself onto one of the many razor reefs surrounding the exterior of the Island.  It was
thought that the gods put them there to protect the Island...but where did the wolves come from, then?

The body that was found was that of one of the village Guardians, known as Taulover.

Well that's an interesting start, I'd say.  You're now down to 1 Guardian, which means the need to find the werewolves is stronger than before.

I suppose it's time for you guys to decide amongst yourselves who to vote off next.  But of course, as mentioned there'd be clues given to you in the day phase to help decipher the Grand Wolf's identity, so here's your clue:

This person is a male.

And there you have it.  So talk amongst yourselves.  This day phase will automatically end at 2PM PST on 8/5/17, and results/the beginning of the next night phase will be posted at 3PM PST same day.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 03, 2017, 07:01:38 PM
Somebody killed my brother Valerian! We must seek vengeance for his death.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Arenado on August 03, 2017, 08:30:40 PM
Wait, clue wise, are you saying the person irl is male or the character?
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 04, 2017, 12:18:26 AM
Not everyone who applied to play have a character.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 04, 2017, 12:19:36 AM
Sorry for the double post, but god damn autocorrect struck again.
Not everyone who applied to play gave a character.
There. I fixed it.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 04, 2017, 12:49:45 AM
I have to reason to suspect anyone of being a werewolf atm, so I'm going to abstain for now.

(This message was mostly to acknowledge that I'm aware that this game has started)
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 04, 2017, 12:53:43 AM
Wait, clue wise, are you saying the person irl is male or the character?

Yes.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Arenado on August 04, 2017, 12:54:33 AM
How very unhelpful.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 04, 2017, 01:01:09 AM
Clues are generally meant to be vague and unhelpful in singularity.  :P
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Crushita on August 04, 2017, 01:36:00 AM
Somebody killed my brother Valerian! We must seek vengeance for his death.
Hmm. Of course who would be more enthusiastic to kill Taulover then somebody who knows his strength and the threat he poses?

I'm not going to vote for anyone, yet.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: La Hareng Rouge on August 04, 2017, 02:21:30 AM
I'm going to assume that losing a Guardian was bad.  I'm still trying to get the hang of how this game works, so I'm not 100% sure, but their description makes it seem like losing one or both of them would put the good guys in a really bad place.

I'm going to have to think on this a bit.  Since I don't really know anyone, I don't know exactly who I would even vote for.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: BraveSirRobin on August 04, 2017, 04:00:56 AM
I too shall post to say that I have seen so far and am disappointed in Aragonn's vote day one.  I'd be far more nefarious and part of the game if I were a wolf :P
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 04, 2017, 07:35:47 AM
Sorry to disappoint you with a totally random vote when there was absolutely no evidence that anyone could be a wolf. You know how the early game plays out. Somebody has to die (usually), and it's always up to RNGsus to decide. I just increased the pool for RNGsus to pull from.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 04, 2017, 04:02:17 PM
I too shall post to say that I have seen so far and am disappointed in Aragonn's vote day one.  I'd be far more nefarious and part of the game if I were a wolf :P

Hmm. You made an interesting choice there by trying to show your innocence with just "I'd be far more nefarious and part of the game if I were a wolf :P"

You could have not been very active to try to prove your innocence, but that would be a very cliche tactic, so I don't know what to think.

You could be the Grand Wolf hinting at your identity. I'm not going to vote for you yet because I can't really tell if you're a wolf or not yet.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Gerrick on August 04, 2017, 04:34:16 PM
Welp, only about a day left.

I'll Vote: Hydra as I believe he and Fayt are the only two that still haven't posted yet.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Crushita on August 04, 2017, 09:42:05 PM
Well we really don't have much to go off of here. I guess I ought to go with my initial suspicions. As I said before Aragonn would probably be the one most likely to want to kill Tau in the first place, and his quickness to swear revenge is itself suspicious to me.
Vote: Aragonn
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 04, 2017, 10:06:49 PM
Well, since others are voting and someone needs to get lynched, I'll vote Robin because of his earlier claim about being disappointed about Aragonn voting for him. I thought the fact that he brought it up was suspicious and that he tried to show his innocence.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: BraveSirRobin on August 04, 2017, 11:54:20 PM
You made an interesting choice there by trying to show your innocence with just "I'd be far more nefarious and part of the game if I were a wolf :P"

You could have not been very active to try to prove your innocence, but that would be a very cliche tactic, so I don't know what to think.

You could be the Grand Wolf hinting at your identity. I'm not going to vote for you yet because I can't really tell if you're a wolf or not yet.
Well, since others are voting and someone needs to get lynched, I'll vote Robin because of his earlier claim about being disappointed about Aragonn voting for him. I thought the fact that he brought it up was suspicious and that he tried to show his innocence.
#Logic :P

But in all seriousness I'll vote for Aragonn mostly as he voted for me Day 1 and didn't mention RNGesus as the vote's raison d'etre.  Also because Crushita raises quite compelling arguments.  Plus I never use RNGesus.  It's too risky a tactic, especially for a Valerian, especially for a Valerian in the early game.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 05, 2017, 12:16:19 AM
I didn't want it to come to this on Day 2, but I must vote for someone to save my own hide. Question is though do I want BSR gone or Hydra. I'll Vote: BraveSirRobin because of his insistence that I be a wolf purely for jumping in so soon. Did it ever occur to you that I have the notifications turned on and I happened to be available at the time he died? Also, it's too risky of a play for a Valerian to target another Valerian because of our past games. Patterns should not be followed from Werewolf to Werewolf. Whoever targeted Tau is obviously trying to frame a Valerian. And what greater threat within the Valerian house than me? Amazing plot idea, I do say.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: La Hareng Rouge on August 05, 2017, 12:49:46 AM
I suppose I should vote, though I don't know who I should vote for.  At the same time, Mathyland brings up a good point about BraveSirRobin's interesting choice of phrasing.

I guess since I'm saying that, I guess I should just Vote: BraveSirRobin.

I hope my guess is correct.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 05, 2017, 12:55:32 AM
I'll vote Aragonn again...someone's waayyyyy too defensive.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 05, 2017, 12:59:53 AM
I got gangbanged while I wasn't looking. Yes, I'm being defensive.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 05, 2017, 01:02:52 AM
I got gangbanged while I wasn't looking.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WWxk40g_qj8/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAEg/BwuvRo0Yz8g/photo.jpg)

That's going in my sig, by the way.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 05, 2017, 01:06:16 AM
I got gangbanged while I wasn't looking. Yes, I'm being defensive.
And you didn't invite me to it? ^-^
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 05, 2017, 01:09:29 AM
Back on track, we have 7 voters, and 6 people who haven't voted.  Remember, the phase ends automatically at 2PM tomorrow (aka 8/5).

Gerrick: Vote Hydra
Crushita: Vote Aragonn
Maythland: Vote BraveSirRobin
BraveSirRobin: Vote Aragonn
Aragonn: Vote BraveSirRobin
La Hareng Rouge: Vote BraveSirRobin
Wintermoot: Vote Aragonn
North: Vote Hydra

Currently, we have a 2-way tie.  But there's still time for those 5 non-voters to either put it into a majority, or add another name to the tie list.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Arenado on August 05, 2017, 03:09:42 AM
I vote Hydra just because I need to vote but dont want to lynch people.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Hydra on August 05, 2017, 04:08:34 AM
I didn't want it to come to this on Day 2, but I must vote for someone to save my own hide. Question is though do I want BSR gone or Hydra. I'll Vote: BraveSirRobin because of his insistence that I be a wolf purely for jumping in so soon. Did it ever occur to you that I have the notifications turned on and I happened to be available at the time he died? Also, it's too risky of a play for a Valerian to target another Valerian because of our past games. Patterns should not be followed from Werewolf to Werewolf. Whoever targeted Tau is obviously trying to frame a Valerian. And what greater threat within the Valerian house than me? Amazing plot idea, I do say.

But... Robin and I are both Valerians... #Logic :P. Just curious, why would you want me gone, dear uncle? I must avenge my father's death.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Barnes on August 05, 2017, 06:07:20 AM
I'm voting for BraveSirRobin because of his insistence on the "best" strategy for being a wolf. That sounds shady and hinting at something. And because he seems to be jumping on Mathyland for being suspicious and then acting on those suspicions six hours later.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 05, 2017, 06:40:26 AM
I didn't want it to come to this on Day 2, but I must vote for someone to save my own hide. Question is though do I want BSR gone or Hydra. I'll Vote: BraveSirRobin because of his insistence that I be a wolf purely for jumping in so soon. Did it ever occur to you that I have the notifications turned on and I happened to be available at the time he died? Also, it's too risky of a play for a Valerian to target another Valerian because of our past games. Patterns should not be followed from Werewolf to Werewolf. Whoever targeted Tau is obviously trying to frame a Valerian. And what greater threat within the Valerian house than me? Amazing plot idea, I do say.

But... Robin and I are both Valerians... #Logic :P. Just curious, why would you want me gone, dear uncle? I must avenge my father's death.
Robin was the one who voted for me. So it was a retaliatory vote as much as my own survival.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Crushita on August 05, 2017, 02:32:57 PM
There's something about Aragonn that I just find really suspicious. Perhaps it was his speed to jump onto revenge as a way to declare himself innocent, perhaps its his extreme defensiveness even in the face of what (I assume) was joke by BraveSirRobin. BSR is a little bit suspicious, yes, but Aragonn seems far more so suspicious, to me anyway.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 05, 2017, 03:22:05 PM
Well, I can either sit here and do nothing while people follow BSR because there's no other compelling argument at the moment or defend myself and get gangbanged anyway for being defensive. Anybody who knows me knows I don't go down without a fight. I'm not going to sit back and watch myself get kicked out on Day 2. I don't know about you, but dying early game is not the reason why I signed up to play.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 05, 2017, 07:32:30 PM
Just a reminder that you have 1 hour and 28 minutes before the phase automatically ends.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 05, 2017, 07:33:54 PM
You have that amount of time to get in on the gangbanging of Aragonn. :))
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 05, 2017, 10:05:40 PM
Alright, here's the final results:

Gerrick: Vote Hydra
Crushita: Vote Aragonn
Maythland: Vote BraveSirRobin
BraveSirRobin: Vote Aragonn
Aragonn: Vote BraveSirRobin
La Hareng Rouge: Vote BraveSirRobin
Wintermoot: Vote Aragonn
North: Vote Hydra
Barnes: Vote BraveSirRobin

Hydra: 2
Aragonn: 3
BraveSirRobin: 4

It looks like the choice has been made, and BraveSirRobin has been sent to his death.  Poor you, all of you, for BraveSirRobin was just another humble villager.

You can sulk about your decisions over the night.  Special roles can send me their choices via PM, and we'll see how this night goes.

This night will end on August 6th, at 3:00PM PST.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 05, 2017, 10:14:48 PM
And dear me, someone should really look for @Fayt.  They appear to have gone MIA or into hiding, or whatever.  Since this is the 2nd day they haven't spoken or voted, clearly something's going on.

@DekuNut seems to be missing as well since they were silent in the last phase.  Someone might want to find them.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: taulover on August 05, 2017, 10:32:58 PM
And dear me, someone should really look for @Fayt.  They appear to have gone MIA or into hiding, or whatever.  Since this is the 2nd day they haven't spoken or voted, clearly something's going on.
Fayt's active on the Discord server. Messaged him there.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: BraveSirRobin on August 05, 2017, 11:12:39 PM
It looks like the choice has been made, and BraveSirRobin has been sent to his death.  Poor you, all of you, for BraveSirRobin was just another humble villager.
*tear*
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: DekuNut on August 05, 2017, 11:37:14 PM
Hey guys I'm alive! Sorry I disappeared this week. Thanks for the tag!
I'll catch up real fast *ninjas away*
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: DekuNut on August 05, 2017, 11:46:12 PM
Oh wait. It's night
Guess I won't post then
(This doesn't count)
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 06, 2017, 04:20:41 AM
I'm sorry, BSR. Every Valerian is a valuable player for the good side. I didn't want you to die. But you forced this. Rip in pepperonis.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Arenado on August 06, 2017, 06:36:28 AM
Well, you still have ole' Malediction Valerian.....
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 06, 2017, 10:32:12 PM
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Very rarely had someone ever came to the island in search of anything, let alone survived the trip.
One night, many years ago a traveler named Kuni had somehow arrived alive and well,
though it was still a mystery even to him how he had avoided certain death against the reefs.
Everyone was curious about the new arrival, embracing and welcoming him to the village.  The
chief even at one point had decided to make him an honorary villager, though Kuni had longed to
once again return home to his wife and daughter.  He had also longed for more to eat than the
coconuts and fish that he had to endure.  Eventually, he decided to build a hut away from the village
of Ora, and lived quietly until the villagers had all but forgotten that he was even there.

Arise everyone! Arise to witness last night's murder!  Just kidding...nobody was killed last night, so you have nothing to worry about.  So let's get together and discuss this lucky break and see if we can find those bad guys before that luck runs out.

Your clue today is: This person currently has an existing nation on Nationstates.

We'll finish off this day phase on August 8th, at 3:30PM PST.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 07, 2017, 12:28:06 AM
Out of who's left, Aragonn and Fayt seem the most suspicious; Aragon for reasons stated by a few people such as Crushita, and Fayt for being inactive. I'd vote for Aragonn first before Fayt. I'll hold my vote for now, but I'll vote for Aragonn unless someone says something that changes my mind.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Hydra on August 07, 2017, 01:05:36 AM
@Coco Bandicoot, is the Grand Wolf required to post something that alludes to his role every turn?
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 07, 2017, 01:28:06 AM
Correct, as is indicated by their role, the Grand Wolf will be alluding to their role in every day phase.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 07, 2017, 01:33:14 AM
Correct, as is indicated by their role, the Grand Wolf will be alluding to their role in every day phase.
Aragonn has posted in every day phase. Just pointing that out...

Edit: Actually, I'm not just pointing it out; I'm voting for Aragonn.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: La Hareng Rouge on August 07, 2017, 01:42:10 AM
Correct, as is indicated by their role, the Grand Wolf will be alluding to their role in every day phase.
Aragonn has posted in every day phase. Just pointing that out...

I feel like there's a flaw in that logic, though.

We can't assume that they've even been posting in every phase.

Reading back a bit, it was asked if there was an "inactivity" rule.  If I assume correctly, that means consequences for not posting.  When answered, Coco Bandicoot said that there's no such rule, but that they'd only point out when people were quiet.

@Coco Bandicoot: Can you clarify if this is the same for the person playing the Grand Wolf?
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 07, 2017, 01:49:11 AM
You'd actually be correct on that front.  Technically, the role dictates that they are supposed to allude to their role in every day phase.  However, since there's no actual rule against inactivity, there's really no penalty if they don't decide to post.

So in reality, I should say that they're supposed to allude to their role in every day phase that they do post in.

I suppose that's something I'll have to update in the OP.

Edit: The description of the Grand Wolf has been updated to reflect the technicality.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 07, 2017, 02:52:22 AM
Surprise, surprise...Aragonn throws BraveSirRobin, an innocent villager, under the bus to save himself. And after all that talk about being gangbanged, too. :P

Vote: Aragonn
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 07, 2017, 02:57:31 AM
I must say your evidence against me is weak. I'd be more suspicious of Crushita for jumping on the band wagon against me once it seemed clear I was going to go down. So I'll Vote: Crushita.
Surprise, surprise...Aragonn throws BraveSirRobin, an innocent villager, under the bus to save himself. And after all that talk about being gangbanged, too. :P

Vote: Aragonn

Damn right I threw that traitor under the bus! He was trying to have me, a brother Valerian, killed!
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 07, 2017, 03:00:13 AM
And yet you're the one that actually killed him, and he even turned out to be innocent...hardly a noble thing, don't you think?
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 07, 2017, 03:01:15 AM
I must say your evidence against me is weak. I'd be more suspicious of Crushita for jumping on the band wagon against me once it seemed clear I was going to go down. So I'll Vote: Crushita.

What other evidence can you get in this game? I mean,  the Guardian can't help because they can't state their role or findings.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 07, 2017, 03:09:14 AM
And yet you're the one that actually killed him, and he even turned out to be innocent...hardly a noble thing, don't you think?
He threw me under the bus first. I just pulled a reversal on him. Besides, it wasn't my vote which dealt the killing blow, so I didn't actually kill him.

And what if my defensiveness is from being the last remaining guardian? Would you really want to kill off your guardian? I could also be a regular player who's struggling to survive under the suspicions of his peers. The possibilities are open. My defensiveness, as has been shown in previous Werewolf games, is not a sure sign of me being a wolf. It's a character trait of mine.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Crushita on August 07, 2017, 03:19:28 AM
My suspicion's stand.

Vote:Aragonn
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 07, 2017, 03:26:07 AM
I won't quit fighting.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 07, 2017, 03:27:09 AM
A character trait, huh? That would be an interesting topic to explore elsewhere. :P

As it is, it's interesting how you jump on the whole maybe being a Guardian thing right after Mathyland posts about the Guardian role.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 07, 2017, 03:29:44 AM
You're taking bits and pieces of what I say and do and take them completely out of context for your arguments. Of course I look like a wolf to you because you're not looking at the grand picture.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Gerrick on August 07, 2017, 04:41:50 AM
You're taking bits and pieces of what I say and do and take them completely out of context for your arguments. Of course I look like a wolf to you because you're not looking at the grand picture.
"Grand" picture, huh? Think we might've found our Grand Wolf. Little too conspicuous with that clue, Aragonn. :P

Vote: Aragonn
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 07, 2017, 04:43:36 AM
/me sighs

No shovel is gonna dig me out of this hole. GG guys.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 07, 2017, 05:36:50 AM
/me sighs

No shovel is gonna dig me out of this hole. GG guys.
Grand game, guys. :P
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Arenado on August 07, 2017, 08:39:54 AM
I dont know, Aragon seems as good a guess as anyone else.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Arenado on August 07, 2017, 08:40:52 AM
So I'll vote Aragon. Really should have remembered to put that in.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: taulover on August 07, 2017, 04:09:31 PM
I dont know, Aragon seems as good a guess as anyone else.
So I'll vote Aragon. Really should have remembered to put that in.
DEAD

Aragonn*
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 07, 2017, 04:27:21 PM
And Aragonn is now AraGone.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 07, 2017, 04:42:23 PM
Will Aragonn be Ara-gone?  Will Wintermoot finally propose to that palm tree?  Will Crushita ever embrace the Coconut God?

Eh, you'll find out one of these when the day phase ends.

In the meantime, go enjoy a cutaway of Conway Twitty.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 08, 2017, 01:09:35 AM
Just a little over 21 hours left in this day phase.  Still time for some of our quiet players to get their votes in.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 08, 2017, 11:06:35 AM
Just a friendly reminder that a little more than 11 hours remain in this phase.  If you haven't voted yet, you still have a little time left.

@La Hareng Rouge
@Barnes
@DekuNut
@xXTheHydraXx
@Fayt
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 08, 2017, 10:18:32 PM
Wow, congrats everyone, that was such a short game...I can't believe you found the Grand Wolf so fast!

...
...
...is what I'd say if the assumption was correct.

But take heart, players.  For while Aragonn wasn't the Grand Wolf, he was at the very least a regular one.

With one wolf gone, one remains...while the Grand Wolf is also still at large.  The night looms, and you all know the drill.

Power roles, send me PMs with your choices for the night.

Everyone else, take 5.  We'll return for another day phase after the 24 hour broadcast of Dictionary: The Musical. It'll be over by 3:30PM PST, on August 9th.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Gerrick on August 08, 2017, 11:35:27 PM
Woo! Got one! We were kinda right.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 09, 2017, 12:25:32 AM
Why have there been almost no werewolf kills yet? Yesterday there were none even though there's only one guardian left.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aragonn on August 09, 2017, 01:11:04 PM
DEAD

I'll just make the official story be that we had some technical issues Night 2. But GG everyone.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 09, 2017, 08:41:02 PM
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Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 09, 2017, 11:32:24 PM
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Kuni was adjusting to his new life away from the village.  Yet, still he longed to be back with his love
Uhani.  His longing began to turn to desperation, as he began tearing through the island with the
hope that held a secret of sorts that would let him return to his beloved.  He indeed found a secret
As he found his way into a mysterious cave that he wondered if any of the island’s
inhabitants even knew about in the first place.  In the center of the large cavern stood a unique
stone alter, with what looked to be a diamond wolf’s head sitting on the very
center.  Kuni was no man of greed, but the unique wolf-shaped diamond caught his eye,
or rather had him hypnotized as he laid his hands out to touch the rather
curious item.  As his hands touched, however, something had began to stir within him.  He felt his
Once human features beginning to shift into more beastly traits;  he was becoming a werewolf.

Wake up everyone! Someone was killed last night, and you're not going to like who it was.  That's right, it was your last Guardian, Crushita!  Now you'll actually have to rely on wits throughout the entire game rather than praying someone somewhere would be able to keep you in the clear while you close the gap on the bad guys.  Tough break!

But keep your spirits up, for the clues will still be coming to help potentially crack the identity of the Grand Wolf.  Speaking of which, here's today's clue: This person has voted in at least one of the previous day phases.

And there you have it.  We'll end this day phase on August 11th, at 4:30PM PST.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 09, 2017, 11:36:51 PM
I know he can't be the Grand Wolf because he hasn't voted yet, but if @Fayt doesn't say anything, I will vote for him. He could be the last normal werewolf.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: La Hareng Rouge on August 09, 2017, 11:45:21 PM
Going back and looking, Fayt was definitely the only one to never vote.  I guess while it's still pretty broad, at least it narrowed it down by one person.  Hopefully the next clue will narrow it down by more than just one.

That really sucks that we lost our Guardians, though.  Do we even have any other leads at all at this point?
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 10, 2017, 07:32:28 PM
Just a reminder that there's roughly 28 hours left in this phase.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 10, 2017, 07:36:08 PM
I'll vote Fayt because he's said literally nothing so far and he could be the other normal werewolf.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Barnes on August 10, 2017, 07:42:06 PM
I vote for Fayt on that same logic. He's responded on our Discord server but not here, so we know he's around in some capacity.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 10, 2017, 07:47:21 PM
Although, as I just noticed, the village fool's description says "they’re doomed to go through the game as looking the most guilty," which is vague, and not talking makes you look very suspicious. Lynching the village fool gives the wolves an extra kill at night, so we don't want to lynch the village fool. I'm still deciding if I will take back my vote or not.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: La Hareng Rouge on August 10, 2017, 09:00:40 PM
I don't entirely agree with that logic, since the same could have been applied last round had anyone did a quick check of the role back then.

If anything, Aragonn was much more likely than Fayt to be the Village Fool with how guilty he was making himself look (to where some including yourself believed they were voting off the Grand Wolf).

If it wasn't for the host bringing them up each day, I doubt anyone would have even remembered that Fayt was a player.

I'll go ahead and take a shot with this.

Vote: Lynch Fayt
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Arenado on August 11, 2017, 02:23:13 AM
I'll be voting for La Hareng Rouge for no reason other that I an somewhat suspicious of his reasoning.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 12, 2017, 03:15:24 AM
Only 4 out of 9 votes?  That's pretty depressing.

Well, in any case, here we are.  3/4s of you voted Fayt, so that looks to be the majority...although a sad majority it is.

Regardless, while the assumption of Fayt being the Village Fool is incorrect, they were in fact a regular run-of-the-mill villager.

Alright, it's night phase, and you all know the drill.  I only hope that next day draws more activity than this one did.  Send me your choice for the night werewolf, and we'll proceed with the next day phase on 8/12 at 8:30PM or earlier, if the choice is sent in earlier.

This message was brought to you by the ending phase's silent majority:
@Wintermoot
@Gerrick
@xXTheHydraXx
@DekuNut
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 12, 2017, 10:08:02 PM
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It was as if the diamond wolf was speaking to him, telling him of the island’s
ancient secrets. One of the most damning being that the elders of the village wielded
magicks that allowed them to raise the razor-sharp reefs around the island in an effort
to deter any outsiders from spoiling their sacred lands.  But the diamond wolf also spoke of
how the villagers themselves were once but travelers from a far away land known as
England.  They had fled their home and made it to the island shores,
where they slaughtered the natives who had once lived there, and removed all traces
of their existence.  The elders had then happened upon a unique, but dimly
lit grove, where they were granted the magic in exchange for a child born
from the village...who would be spirited away from the Island.  That child was Kuni.

Wake up everyone, there's been another murder!  This time, it was poor sweet Mathyland, another humble villager.

You're down to 7 people, now.  Well, here's hoping something happens this round, lord knows you guys need some help.

So let's get this day phase started!  We'll end it on August 14th at 3:15 PM PST.

Today's clue is: This person has created an AMA thread.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Gerrick on August 12, 2017, 11:42:13 PM
It seems that everyone except for Hydra has created an AMA, so (if I'm correct) that means he at least isn't the Grand Wolf, though he may still be a regular Werewolf.

Currently, the only person I'm not suspicious of is Wintermoot as he started the lynching of Aragonn. North hasn't really been pressuring votes and he helped take down Aragonn, so I'm less suspicious of him as well.

Hydra and DekuNut have been very silent, which is a common strategy for Werewolves, however I'm more suspicious of La Hareng Rouge and Barnes. They both voted with Aragonn on Day 2 to save him, and Hareng voted to save Aragonn again the next Day phase.

Vote: La Hareng Rouge
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Arenado on August 13, 2017, 08:23:23 AM
Well, with nothing better to do, I also vote for La Hareng Rouge.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 13, 2017, 07:29:50 PM
Voting Barnes cause he voted early too on day one and was one of the few people who didn't join the Aragonn gangbang, which in this region is just inexcusable by itself.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Barnes on August 13, 2017, 11:25:40 PM
I, too, vote for La Hareng Rouge.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: La Hareng Rouge on August 14, 2017, 01:19:36 AM
@Gerrick: Pardon me, sir, but I didn't even vote in the 3rd day phase.

If you correctly recall, I didn't vote Day 1 because I didn't know the day started.  Day 2, yes, I voted for BraveSirRobin on a guess, which I was not even sure about and admitted so.

Day 3, I attempted to dispel an assumption made by Mathyland that Aragonn was the Grand Wolf (which, surprise, he wasn't).  But I did not actually vote, if you noticed by the fact that I was pinged before the phase ended, and there were no votes between that and the phase end.  If I had logged in after seeing Aragonn practically exclaim defeat on his discovery, I would have obviously voted for him.

Either you missed that bit unintentionally, or it was on purpose to hide the fact that you're the other werewolf (and since nobody has suspected you, it'd be a good twist).

And of course, Day 4 was me countering the logic that the quiet player must have been the Village Fool as opposed to the one who with every post was practically screaming guilt.  Naturally it was a gamble, and though it was heavily unfortunate to lose another villager, it at the very least proved that the quiet person was clearly not the village fool (although I was voting with the hopes that their silence was hiding that they were the werewolf).

For the time being though, since apparently bandwagons exist, I'll at least vote for Barnes since I do agree that his actions have been equally suspicious.  While I'm suspicious that you may be the Grand Wolf (because again, it'd be the perfect bit since nobody suspects you yet), I'm not entirely convinced that Barnes is a good guy either.

Vote: Lynch Barnes
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Arenado on August 14, 2017, 01:42:40 AM
Hmmm..... I have been swayed. I will vote for Barnes now.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Gerrick on August 14, 2017, 02:57:20 AM
Day 3, I attempted to dispel an assumption made by Mathyland that Aragonn was the Grand Wolf (which, surprise, he wasn't).  But I did not actually vote, if you noticed by the fact that I was pinged before the phase ended, and there were no votes between that and the phase end.  If I had logged in after seeing Aragonn practically exclaim defeat on his discovery, I would have obviously voted for him.
Ah, my mistake. I must have thought that you did when you just gave an argument that favored him. Still suspicious though.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Barnes on August 14, 2017, 03:00:11 AM
I've been busy because I'm out of state attending family affairs. I've had little time to post as a result. The evidence against Aragonn was insurmountable, and I would've voted for him as a result had I been active.

My vote for day 1 was a guess as good as any, since we had nothing to go off of, regardless of how early it may have seemed.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 14, 2017, 10:32:17 PM
Alright, this was a tough round it seemed.

I counted 5 out of 7 voters: Barnes, North, Gerrick, La Hareng Rouge, and Wintermoot, with shoutouts to @xXTheHydra and @DekuNut for their silence in this round.

it started off interestingly and pretty mixed, almost seeming like a 3-2 vote against La Hareng Rouge.  However, that seems to reversed by a single vote.

And wow! What a switch that was.  Because by voting off Barnes, you voted off the other Werewolf!

So now the game should be super easy without anyone being killed off, right?!

We should totally be able to just go day-by-day-by-day and vote people off, right?!

Well, that would make the game boring.

Alas, there was one secret little thing that was never mentioned to anyone except for the Grand Wolf.

The story revealing it hasn't been introduced yet, but the Werewolves have an interesting backstory with the Grand Wolf...interesting in that they were created by the Grand Wolf themselves.  This creation was not by choice of the Grand Wolf, but by the will of the Diamond Idol itself.  It also decreed (as another story segment would reveal) that if those wolves were ever to perish, it would create an even more powerful werewolf to give a final push to the Grand Wolf to succeed.  This wolf would be come to known as the Last Werewolf, and would be born from the Grand Wolf's own turned kin.

Game wise, it's as frightening as it sounds.  The Last Werewolf can be found out, but takes two days to kill completely (so they would have to be lynched twice).  And starting right from their activation, they can kill a person each night.  If you're wondering: the Village Fool's death will not increase his kill count.

So congrats on killing off the two werewolves, because now you have a more powerful one to deal with.

This night phase will begin now, and will end on August 15th at 3:30PM PST.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Barnes on August 14, 2017, 10:44:38 PM
in memoriam
An especial fuck-you to @North for his wishy-washy voting pattern that killed me. :P (don't worry, I'm not taking it personally XD)

Also, the real reason I didn't vote against Aragonn:
I think voting for me this late makes you suspicious. Just remain inactive for this day period. They'll probably assume you were busy or something.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 14, 2017, 10:56:59 PM
Yeah, following the advice of the first werewolf to get voted off was probably your first mistake. xD
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Gerrick on August 14, 2017, 11:07:52 PM
Huh, good and bad news. Didn't think there'd be another werewolf after we killed them.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 14, 2017, 11:12:17 PM
If it makes you feel better, as the name implies it would be the last werewolf, aside from the Grand Wolf of course.  So if they're successfully killed off, you'd have free reign to kill each other off in peace while you figure out who the actual big bad is.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 15, 2017, 10:36:46 PM
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Kuni was reeling from the revelation given to him by the diamond wolf.
It was now obvious why he was drawn to the island, and why he had to up and
leave the village.  He could feel a fire burning inside, his fury building up
left and right.  His body had grown fur, and he began to grow to a
colossal size.  But that wasn’t the end.  Even after the transformation, something equally
ominous was building inside of him.  His body ached in pain as the thing inside
continued to grow, until it burst out of him: a human sized werewolf, and then another.
Only moments later did he regain himself and see: he had somehow spawned smaller wolves.

Wake up everyone! It seems the Last Werewolf has made their move.  North, a humble villager was found dead, hanging from a palm tree.

That means we're down to 5 players.  But before you start fretting, don't worry.  While the last Werewolf is indeed a bad guy that's out to kill you, Since he started out good, his count doesn't go against the remaining total.  He's a special case that way.

So while you do want to get him out of the way, as long as the total remaining players doesn't equal 3, then you'll be fine.

Either way, this next round will be the most crucial.  Will you unmask the identity of the Grand Wolf?  Will you figure out the Last Werewolf? Or will you fall victim to the trap of uncertainty and become the latest meal?

While we see where this will lead, here's your next clue: This person has posted in a topic that resides in the LGBT forum.

And since I'm feeling generous, here's another clue:  This person did not vote in the first day phase.

So you get a two-fer, on me.

So let's get the talking, and see if you can figure out who the bad guys are in this phase.  If not, it might end up being our last round.

This phase will end on 8/17 at 3:40 PM PST.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 16, 2017, 01:49:53 PM
Somebody should probably start this thing off. :P
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 18, 2017, 03:49:25 PM
No votes? None?  Zero?  Zip? Nada?

Well, I suppose that's to be expected when another thread overshadows a currently running game, so it makes people forget that it was even still currently running.

That doesn't, however, make deadlines magically go away or get extended (though it is a day late), so unfortunately someone has to die this phase...as per how this game goes.

Sadly, you guys get to lose DekuNut, a Villager this phase.

And since you're down to 4, we'll leave it up to our Last Werewolf to decide whether or not to kill someone this night and actually end the game.

This night will end when the Last Werewolf has made their choice.

Or it'll end on the 19th at 2:30PM.  Whichever comes first.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 18, 2017, 04:30:22 PM
Alright, and it looks like the Last Werewolf has chosen to attack Wintermoot, aka the Village Fool.

And with that, the number of living good guys (2) now equals that of the living bad guys (2).  And here's the living roles and who they were played by:

Villager: xXTheHydra, played by xXTheHydra
The Last Werewolf: Gerrick, played by Gerrick
Decoy: La Hareng Rouge--

"But wait!" I hear you rudely interrupt, "there's only 3 players left, so who was the Grand Wolf?"

Well...surprise!

The Grand Wolf: Coco Bandicoot, played by Coco Bandicoot

If you had killed the decoy, aka La Hareng Rouge, you would have come across a game-changing clue:

This person has been mentioned in the stories.
Notice: Have you viewed them on a laptop/computer?

So let's review the first story:

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Centuries ago, there lived a happy people known as the
Oratians.  They were a proud people that lived in huts and enjoyed a diet of
coconuts and fish.  Every afternoon like clockwork, they would get out of bed, shedding their
old skins (which they had to do daily), and would begin their daily activities around Ora
Island...which included fishing, making clothes and jewelry, and teaching the young through
sermons about the old gods that they believed watched over them.  On occasion,
they would even partake in bonfires, where they would dance and sing and
have a festival of sorts while the moon was out, normally when it was full moon.
Even though life seemed peaceful, this was soon to end.
Wolves were said to have somehow made it to the island, though they were never seen before.
One night, however, a scream was heard in the distance, as villagers went to investigate.
Lilli, the chief’s daughter and one of the village’s most prominent dancers, was
found laying in a pool of her own blood, dead to the world.  The wolves had begun their attack.

Nothing implicating a specific person right out, right?  But if you take out the first letter on each line (keeping in mind that you're viewing it on a laptop/computer so you can see it in its native state), you get this:

COCOISTHEWOLF or "Coco is the Wolf"

2nd phase:
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The night had subsided, giving itself away to the approaching daytime.  The villagers
hobbled out of their beds, eager to get the day started and find the beast and slay it.
Everyone made their way to the village square, as the chief counted to make sure everyone was there.
However, he would soon discover that the village was another body short, as the beast had struck
once again, taking claim to another life.  The villagers had decided to split up and
search the village for the missing person, only to find them sliced open and hung near the village’s
Tiki hut...the prominent source of where they would drink themselves silly and sing songs of
daring heroes that had once attempted to brave out of the island and into the world beyond.
It was on this day, actually, though several years earlier that one such villager known as
Dianten had left the island in search of adventure.  He had barely made it onto the ocean with his raft as
It had caught itself onto one of the many razor reefs surrounding the exterior of the Island.  It was
thought that the gods put them there to protect the Island...but where did the wolves come from, then?
THEHOSTDIDIT or "The Host Did it"

3rd Phase:
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Very rarely had someone ever came to the island in search of anything, let alone survived the trip.
One night, many years ago a traveler named Kuni had somehow arrived alive and well,
though it was still a mystery even to him how he had avoided certain death against the reefs.
Everyone was curious about the new arrival, embracing and welcoming him to the village.  The
chief even at one point had decided to make him an honorary villager, though Kuni had longed to
once again return home to his wife and daughter.  He had also longed for more to eat than the
coconuts and fish that he had to endure.  Eventually, he decided to build a hut away from the village
of Ora, and lived quietly until the villagers had all but forgotten that he was even there.
VOTECOCO or "Vote Coco" (as Tau lovingly told me not to plug my campaign in my game)

4th Phase:
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Kuni was adjusting to his new life away from the village.  Yet, still he longed to be back with his love
Uhani.  His longing began to turn to desperation, as he began tearing through the island with the
hope that held a secret of sorts that would let him return to his beloved.  He indeed found a secret
As he found his way into a mysterious cave that he wondered if any of the island’s
inhabitants even knew about in the first place.  In the center of the large cavern stood a unique
stone alter, with what looked to be a diamond wolf’s head sitting on the very
center.  Kuni was no man of greed, but the unique wolf-shaped diamond caught his eye,
or rather had him hypnotized as he laid his hands out to touch the rather
curious item.  As his hands touched, however, something had began to stir within him.  He felt his
Once human features beginning to shift into more beastly traits;  he was becoming a werewolf.

KUHAISCOCO or "Kuha is Coco"
Which you're probably at this point wondering what that one means...in which case, I direct you to here (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=4554.0), which essentially was a game-twist to reveal that La Hareng Rouge was in fact myself (that's right, I planted a decoy, which played the Decoy).

5th Phase:
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It was as if the diamond wolf was speaking to him, telling him of the island’s
ancient secrets. One of the most damning being that the elders of the village wielded
magicks that allowed them to raise the razor-sharp reefs around the island in an effort
to deter any outsiders from spoiling their sacred lands.  But the diamond wolf also spoke of
how the villagers themselves were once but travelers from a far away land known as
England.  They had fled their home and made it to the island shores,
where they slaughtered the natives who had once lived there, and removed all traces
of their existence.  The elders had then happened upon a unique, but dimly
lit grove, where they were granted the magic in exchange for a child born
from the village...who would be spirited away from the Island.  That child was Kuni.
IAMTHEWOLF "I am the Wolf"

6th Phase:
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Kuni was reeling from the revelation given to him by the diamond wolf.
It was now obvious why he was drawn to the island, and why he had to up and
leave the village.  He could feel a fire burning inside, his fury building up
left and right.  His body had grown fur, and he began to grow to a
colossal size.  But that wasn’t the end.  Even after the transformation, something equally
ominous was building inside of him.  His body ached in pain as the thing inside
continued to grow, until it burst out of him: a human sized werewolf, and then another.
Only moments later did he regain himself and see: he had somehow spawned smaller wolves.
KILLCOCO "Kill Coco"
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That's right! For the first time in Werewolf history, the host ACTUALLY did it.  Well, in a sense since I never actually KILLED anyone at night.  But as per my role stated, I left hints to my role in every day phase, and was surprised nobody even picked up on it.  I was expecting at least one person on a computer to put it together pretty quickly.

But I also knew that once La Hareng Rouge was killed, someone (most likely Gerrick since he was alive throughout) would figure it out almost instantly.  Since there's no barring sharing the clues, they could point out the story patterns to others, and I'd be figured out.  Tau actually proved that just hinting at a pattern in the stories could give it away, as he figured it out pretty instantly in our Dead PM (called the Grand Wolf's Fireside Dinner Chat).

I will say, this was actually semi difficult for a mix of reasons:
*I had to come up with clues that would eventually implicate me, but would also implicate La Hareng Rouge (aka The Red Herring).
>>La Hareng Rouge had to essentially be his own personality.  We'd share somewhat similar writing styles, but they'd also be a smidge different to diffuse speculation.  The most difficult of this was making sure we didn't post at similar times, or that we didn't even pop up on the forums at the same time.  In case anyone is wondering, the picture I posted as him was a random guy from Grindr.  I had to make sure it wasn't one that someone could do a reverse-image search for (but LHR had to be as legit as possible).
*I also had to be always aware which person I was posting as, lest I accidentally end a phase as him, or post to vote off a person as myself.
*I also had to go into each post as La Hareng Rouge pretty much forgetting all of the roles.  Meaning every post that you saw from him was pretty much me/him going into it fresh.  Every argument made was an actual argument, some that I'd normally make in previous games when it comes to the trivial things.  Any bandwagon made was an actual bandwagon, rather than knowingly going into it to get a certain role killed off.  Barnes' lynch, for instance, was purely typical me trying to save myself from getting voted off.  I was actually half expecting that it would have been more likely to get LHR lynched, since my defensive arguments tend to have a habit of doing that.
*I actually had to discard my original story for this new one, and had to make it somewhat coherent enough even though it was completely centered around making the pattern for each clue work.  So if the style seems a bit odd, that's why.  It was strictly clues first, and then write the story to follow each letter decently enough.

Any questions? :D
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Gerrick on August 18, 2017, 05:27:20 PM
Wait wait wait. So not only were you the Grand Wolf, you're also La Hareng Rouge?
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Mathyland on August 18, 2017, 05:30:27 PM
Wait wait wait. So not only were you the Grand Wolf, you're also La Hareng Rouge?
Yep, he was The Red Herring (La Hareng Rouge is French for the red herring I think)
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 18, 2017, 05:35:39 PM
Wait, you applied for Citizenship on a duplicate account?
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 18, 2017, 05:46:24 PM
Pretty sure I mentioned that to you in our very first chat after I gave out the roles.  o_O.

Naturally, you can revoke said citizenship since he'll just be gathering dust anyways since the game is over.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 18, 2017, 05:50:40 PM
Wait wait wait. So not only were you the Grand Wolf, you're also La Hareng Rouge?

Yep.

La Hareng Rouge, aka The Red Herring...simply was just that.  :))
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aethelia on August 18, 2017, 05:50:48 PM
Huh, and for awhile I was just thinking "Ugh, there's two people who type two spaces after a period, one more and I'm out of here". Good to know it's back to one.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 18, 2017, 05:51:24 PM
Huh, and here I was just thinking "Ugh, there's two people who type two spaces after a period, one more and I'm out of here". Good to know it's back to one.

That...actually bothers you? o_O
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Aethelia on August 18, 2017, 05:53:17 PM
Well not really that much, or at least now I'm more upset that even though I was just watching this mafia game, that I didn't think of this possibility earlier. Wish I could say "I knew all along" but I didn't make that connection even though pattern recognition is supposed to be part of my job.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 18, 2017, 05:55:02 PM
Well not really that much, or at least now I'm more upset that even though I was just watching this mafia game, that I didn't think of this possibility earlier. Wish I could say "I knew all along" but I didn't make that connection even though pattern recognition is supposed to be part of my job.

It's pretty unheard of.  I think this is the first Mafia/Werewolf game I've ever seen/been a part of that had the host as the bad guy, since it's usually difficult for them to actually place themselves inside of the game.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Gerrick on August 18, 2017, 05:56:28 PM
:o Holy shit, that's a whole nother level. You put a ton of work into this. Well done, man. Well done.

And I won, too! :D
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 18, 2017, 05:57:19 PM
Pretty sure I mentioned that to you in our very first chat after I gave out the roles.  o_O.
I remember you saying La Hareng Rouge was the decoy, but I don't remember anything about you being behind him. I'll review the chat when I get home, though.

What's disturbing though is that the the security checks didn't catch this, even though it should easily have done so. =/
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 18, 2017, 06:00:10 PM
Pretty sure I mentioned that to you in our very first chat after I gave out the roles.  o_O.
I remember you saying La Hareng Rouge was the decoy, but I don't remember anything about you being behind him. I'll review the chat when I get home, though.

What's disturbing though is that the the security checks didn't catch this, even though it should easily have done so. =/

I do recall saying that LHR was me, which was why I specifically created the Village Fool role and gave it to you, so that you could know that ahead of time.   :))  As for mentioning the citizenship thing, it's possible I didn't mention that part since I figured you would have already known, given you approved his application.

I would be surprised that the security checks wouldn't have picked up on our identical IPs.  I mean, I used private browsing (for no real reason), but that doesn't magically create a new IP since it wasn't a VPN.  All it does is just delete any past history on my side so that I'd have to re-sign in every time.  o_O
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: taulover on August 19, 2017, 05:53:46 AM
As for mentioning the citizenship thing, it's possible I didn't mention that part since I figured you would have already known, given you approved his application.
Wait, you asked him after you created a second citizenship account? Then again, "ask forgiveness not permission" and all that.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 19, 2017, 05:57:03 AM
As for mentioning the citizenship thing, it's possible I didn't mention that part since I figured you would have already known, given you approved his application.
Wait, you asked him after you created a second citizenship account? Then again, "ask forgiveness not permission" and all that.

To be honest, I was debating it.  But again, LHR had to be as legit as possible...and an active player appearing out of nowhere and not making a citizenship app would have raised some bells earlier in game.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: taulover on August 19, 2017, 06:02:23 AM
As for mentioning the citizenship thing, it's possible I didn't mention that part since I figured you would have already known, given you approved his application.
Wait, you asked him after you created a second citizenship account? Then again, "ask forgiveness not permission" and all that.

To be honest, I was debating it.  But again, LHR had to be as legit as possible...and an active player appearing out of nowhere and not making a citizenship app would have raised some bells earlier in game.
Nah, what I meant was just that I thought the IRC chat with Wintermoot that you mentioned took place before applying for citizenship.
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 19, 2017, 12:21:37 PM
As for mentioning the citizenship thing, it's possible I didn't mention that part since I figured you would have already known, given you approved his application.
Wait, you asked him after you created a second citizenship account? Then again, "ask forgiveness not permission" and all that.

To be honest, I was debating it.  But again, LHR had to be as legit as possible...and an active player appearing out of nowhere and not making a citizenship app would have raised some bells earlier in game.
Nah, what I meant was just that I thought the IRC chat with Wintermoot that you mentioned took place before applying for citizenship.

Ah, no.  Admittedly I did it on impulse a couple of days before and used that to get him mixed in with the citizens.

I was actually surprised I'd never gotten a message about it in PM or IRC from Moot before the game, but I guess now I know why. O.o
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Wintermoot on August 19, 2017, 04:00:23 PM
Yeah, apparently something needs fixing. :P
Title: Werewolf XII: The Island Massacre
Post by: Michi on August 19, 2017, 04:56:56 PM
Yeah, apparently something needs fixing. :P

You can always count on me to show when things aren't working.  :))