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Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on May 18, 2017, 05:11:36 PM
We need something rad to replace the rad RPs that we've lost.  Aka: we need some combination of Union and Potatoe.

Any ideas?  Suggestions?  I think some of the problems with the two were:  We needed some way to incorporate new people into the RP.  People couldn't join after the beginning, and if anyone knows Markov models, absorbing boundaries are pretty unavoidable when they exist. 

But more seriously, we need some sort of Nation RP that people can join, and seems totally rad.  Maybe Cold War?  Maybe WWI or WWII?  (WWII would give us the most fun new tech-y stuff).  So what should we do? 

Anything that I neglected to mention?  Other thoughts?  Other concerns?  Other others?  :P
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on May 18, 2017, 05:51:54 PM
I would be all for WWII era technology, as that's what I'm most familiar with besides WH40K technology.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on May 19, 2017, 08:14:17 PM
Yeah I think WWII would be about the tech level.  Anyone else want to comment/brainstorm?  @taulover @xXTheHydraXx
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Hydra on May 21, 2017, 05:39:50 AM
WWII seems nice. :D We haven't done any RP's focusing around that tech era (although "The Potato Who Would Be King" was supposed to be progressive based on scientific advancement) so it'll be a nice shift in pace.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on May 21, 2017, 08:11:40 AM
I'm all for it, but I think we need to lay down some ground rules so as to not so amazingly tip things towards one side. One thing I noticed was that people would claim, like, half a continent in Wintreath Union and make themselves so overpowered any fight would be unbalanced.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on May 21, 2017, 02:05:40 PM
We also need to agree on a map to use.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Ashton Mercer on May 21, 2017, 11:08:04 PM
I have a bunch of ideas, none of which are for a nation's RP. I'll give it a shot anyways.

How about a tribal RP? Chiefs of an Arabia/Iraq/Afghanistan, Africa, Southeast Asia or Pre-Columbian America analogue could engage each other.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on May 21, 2017, 11:26:47 PM
I have a bunch of ideas, none of which are for a nation's RP. I'll give it a shot anyways.

How about a tribal RP? Chiefs of an Arabia/Iraq/Afghanistan, Africa, Southeast Asia or Pre-Columbian America analogue could engage each other.
We tried one (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=3367.0), though it wasn't exactly political, and it never really took off.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on May 22, 2017, 02:01:33 PM
Yeah the thing is the things that really have shot off as roleplays, at least for a bit, are the large sort of nation roleplays, with the sole massive exception being Space Expeditions... :P
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Cinciri on May 23, 2017, 08:55:48 PM
I am in agreement with either a WWII or perhaps a colonial era, but my main question would be how is it played, actual war or the main politics behind it, and would we be using current Nations or making new ones?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Charles Watson-Turing-Donald on May 24, 2017, 05:35:35 PM
I would be most interested in joining an RP here!
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on May 25, 2017, 02:34:50 AM
How about the prelude to war, before ww2?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on May 25, 2017, 02:49:00 AM
I would be most interested in joining an RP here!
We'd be glad to have you!! :D
How about the prelude to war, before ww2?
That's a really good idea as well!  That's probably what we would do to get the ball rolling.  Plus beginning with a global depression is always a fun thing :P
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on May 25, 2017, 09:32:04 PM
Is PotatoStates officially dead then?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on June 03, 2017, 01:46:23 PM
Would anyone be interested in hosting a new game? If not, I would be interested.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 03, 2017, 02:29:02 PM
Is PotatoStates officially dead then?
Unfortunately I think so. 
Would anyone be interested in hosting a new game? If not, I would be interested.
I was thinking of hosting a new nation RP sort of thing.  Like Depression-Cold War sort of thing.  Which would allow us to add new people in at any time really, because during the entire period nations were being created and destroyed rather quickly... and consequently we could add new people whenever!! :D
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 04, 2017, 02:43:29 PM
So we'd start with the interwar period before WWII started and progress through a global conflict up into a cold war?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 11, 2017, 05:30:14 PM
So we'd start with the interwar period before WWII started and progress through a global conflict up into a cold war?
Yeah basically!! :D
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 11, 2017, 05:30:24 PM
What does everyone think!?  :)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 11, 2017, 06:53:51 PM
I think the technology is good. We'll have to come up with a good explanation as to why we're going into this global conflict.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 12, 2017, 12:05:07 AM
Yeah.  If anyone has suggestions, feel free!! :D 
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 19, 2017, 03:22:02 AM
Bumping this because Nation RPs are really cool!! :D
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 19, 2017, 04:07:55 AM
I can agree with that. But we need more people providing input if we're to get this off the ground.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on June 19, 2017, 04:49:17 PM
I, as always, shall have the North/ Southern Gralend tag team of terror.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 19, 2017, 06:18:57 PM
And what sort of terror do you plan to bring?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on June 19, 2017, 08:08:32 PM
Constant, never ending war.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Cinciri on June 19, 2017, 08:12:31 PM
I shall be representing Yaim Rusur as always. The Warrior's Republic shall show the nation the true meaning of war.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 19, 2017, 08:36:08 PM
Nobody wages war like the Aesir!
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on June 19, 2017, 08:54:06 PM
War does not determine who is right — only who is left.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Cinciri on June 20, 2017, 12:00:26 AM
Yaim Rusur is basically a Private Military Corporation with a flag and a seat in government, we live and breathe war. Our citizens by law must always wear their armor when in public (we would force it in the home too but we figured the bedroom is not for us to dictate ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).) Our economy is almost entirely reliant on our arms production 
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 20, 2017, 04:01:16 AM
Sounds pretty good so far.  I'll probably do a big mention of everyone with the whole history of nation RP interest here, as well as try and coerce some of our active folks from the NS RMB. 
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Gattoartico on June 20, 2017, 04:08:40 AM
War? Such a, mortal term. No mortal ideas of war truly capture the essence of the word. What you call war we simply looked on as petty conflicts. Walk then, and witness the endless glories and horrors of the god-ages. When galaxies burned in the fiery perdition of our hatreds and desires.


In other words a new nation rp would be great! Love the tech eras and stuffs!  A good explanation for global conflict would be imperialist desires conflicting or a global depression has forced the great powers and splinter cells to make grabs for precious resources and influence.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 20, 2017, 04:24:09 AM
Empires trying to expand into territories allied with larger powers? Sounds grand.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on June 20, 2017, 04:39:05 AM
Ohhh, great warrior? Wars not make one great.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 20, 2017, 07:16:33 PM
No, but they do determine who survives and who dies.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on June 20, 2017, 07:59:01 PM
Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those around you who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not. Attachment leads to jealously. The shadow of greed, that is.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 20, 2017, 08:00:33 PM
Sorry Yoda, but I'm a normal human being with feelings.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Commander_Zemas on June 21, 2017, 03:49:44 AM
The United Acarian Empires is prepared for action. AKA I am interested.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 26, 2017, 05:07:26 PM
Seeing as how we have many militaristic nations ready to join, this war could be as a result of rapid militarisation and increased tension while empires such as myself try to acquire more land.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on June 26, 2017, 05:26:42 PM
Perhaps I'll make my nation fiercely neutral to a militaristic level, along the lines of Switzerland.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 26, 2017, 10:14:35 PM
We should really be getting this one started sometime soon, but I really wanted to find some way for people on the RMB to hop onto the forums for this, even though that's not looking too likely to happen :/
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Commander_Zemas on June 27, 2017, 01:19:00 AM
My nation would be against whatever side it deems it threatens its existence the most.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on June 27, 2017, 01:35:59 AM
So when shall we start this up?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 27, 2017, 02:34:38 AM
Good question. @BraveSirRobin?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Cinciri on June 28, 2017, 01:59:51 AM
My nation isn't fighting FOR anything, they would be fighting for the sake of fighting, as war is a business to them.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 28, 2017, 02:29:50 PM
Good question. @BraveSirRobin?
Whenever we want to.  Heck, even today.  Just trying to advertise to the RMB people again, but if they don't get on the train, we can head off without them (at least initially).

On the topic of things we need for this roleplay though, @taulover care to generate a cool planet?  :)

(If not, I could do it too, but that probably wouldn't be as fun :P)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on June 28, 2017, 02:37:59 PM
Good question. @BraveSirRobin?
Whenever we want to.  Heck, even today.  Just trying to advertise to the RMB people again, but if they don't get on the train, we can head off without them (at least initially).

On the topic of things we need for this roleplay though, @taulover care to generate a cool planet?  :)

(If not, I could do it too, but that probably wouldn't be as fun :P)
Which generator do you want to use?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 28, 2017, 08:01:17 PM
Good question. @BraveSirRobin?
Whenever we want to.  Heck, even today.  Just trying to advertise to the RMB people again, but if they don't get on the train, we can head off without them (at least initially).

On the topic of things we need for this roleplay though, @taulover care to generate a cool planet?  :)

(If not, I could do it too, but that probably wouldn't be as fun :P)
Which generator do you want to use?
Whichever you believe is best ;)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 28, 2017, 08:41:23 PM
As long as it's a world that allows these mechanical beasts to operate without always getting bogged down and gummed up by the environment.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on June 28, 2017, 09:14:05 PM
We might be better off going with what Gerrick already made for Wintrean Union years back:
Hey, everybody. I was able to create a bunch of maps using a map generator: http://donjon.bin.sh/world/ (thanks again to taulover). I created more than I'd like to admit, but I narrowed it down to six that at least somewhat fit the descriptions:
  • Laurentus gets his own continent with an island or two near the equator (I situated each map so that this is on the right side to make it easier to compare)
  • plenty of mountains for Commander Zemas
  • enough land for the rest of us to fit on another larger continent or two
  • scattered islands and archipelagos
Remember that I am able to change of each map the sea level and the amount of ice at the poles and can flip the maps horizontally and vertically, so just look at the shapes/sizes/locations of the land masses for now. We can also say that one pole is just ice (like Earth's north pole) and the other is the snowy diplomatic land created by Weissreich (somewhat similar to Antarctica).

So if anybody has any input on which of these work better or worse (or if none work -- whether because they just aren't right enough or you don't really like the site used), that'd be appreciated. Also, in case you didn't know, the colors indicate elevation: the white and red mean high (mountainous) and the green low.
Map 1
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCRvY75d.png&hash=5349fddfdc63fbf9d890d700aab2dc84)
Map 2
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFtTwSlq.png&hash=fbc1df6644b01714edfcd53ede84e4a4)
Map 3
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdzxUEis.png&hash=794271644014eba798a5be4af86f6ce7)
Map 4
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEHLSHo6.png&hash=2c6dfae28ec9af945d3accfb0181f5ab)
Map 5
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FU3qKSfj.png&hash=9242e0b198debffd8579e1a85cddbf59)
Map 6
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrV9R871.png&hash=52aaf0662ed76433760f1d7437b9e365)

The next steps would be to choose the best map, decide if the sea level/polar ice is good and flip the map to the best way, then finally create a layer over it to carve out our nations with borders.
Here's two more I've generated, though I still don't think they compare to the finalized version of Gerrick's Map 4:

Spoiler
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAOIKWEq.png&hash=da74c674eb0c79078033109fb2c5d6cb)
Spoiler
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FukDOVGp.png&hash=51b35c3628c091119f58755232cc800f)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 28, 2017, 09:40:38 PM
His map 1 offers plenty of land to grab with tons of tactical options. I love it.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on June 29, 2017, 12:01:47 PM
I like map 1.

Just to clarify, what tech level will it be?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 29, 2017, 02:54:10 PM
I like map 1.

Just to clarify, what tech level will it be?
Early WWII to early Cold War. Tech should advance as the RP does.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on June 29, 2017, 05:09:13 PM
I find it interesting that y'all like Map 1, considering that it was ruled out immediately last time after Bodobol disliked it the most.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 29, 2017, 05:39:36 PM
It looks to me what annoyed Bodobol the most with the maps was the distortion of land near the poles which is a standard feature of any flat rectangular map. Putting that aside, his reasoning for not liking map 1 is that there was too much going on. He probably just wanted something simple to work with. As a strategist who likes to have multiple options open at all times, the map is perfect for me.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Gattoartico on June 29, 2017, 07:54:53 PM
I agree with Aragonn, map 1 is strategically diverse. Allowing for more freedom of defense and attack for crafty leaders.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Gerrick on June 29, 2017, 09:56:00 PM
If you guys have problems with the maps from that website (with its difficulties of land grabbing and distortion), there's also this one (http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~amitp/game-programming/polygon-map-generation/demo.html), though it's more of a pangaea (though we could put two next to each other). Some pros of this site are that the maps are made of polygons, so there's an easy way for countries to establish their territory with (and fight over) predefined land tiles (which could be easily changed to each country's color in MS Paint), and it comes with biomes (which could also be changed) and rivers. The con is that it's much less complex in terms of continent shape (though, again, that could be changed in Paint).

With this map generator, you can change the shape (I prefer "perlin"), point selection (either "relaxed" for more natural or "hex" for uniform tiles), and number of tiles (I'd say max 2000).

An example (two maps side by side using perlin, relaxed, and 2000):
With polygons (tiles)
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZ9RTHtm.png&hash=4d43595862318c70d17d34ae8101c31f)
Smooth
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft8IqLPB.png&hash=119cc71bb65be0eb010edc219c971eb0)

But it's whatever. :P
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on June 29, 2017, 10:11:05 PM
Ahh... the polygon tiles are perfect.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on June 29, 2017, 11:48:51 PM
I really like the polygon tiles for land claims. My only issue is that it's kinda giving me trypophobia and making me nauseous as a result... Would vastly prefer it if it were uniform hexagons or something.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on June 30, 2017, 01:05:27 AM
I think it kinda takes away from the realism, but it does simplify things enough for novices. Though to me those land masses look too small to cover a whole planet, so we'd have to bump it up on scale.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 30, 2017, 04:57:22 AM
I mean obviously mercator projection is convenient, but I have to say equal area would be nice.  Map 1 is ok, and while it definitely is strategically diverse, I'm not sure how the currents would work there, and I don't particularly enjoy the orientation, but maps are easily flipped.  Something about all the mass in the southwest and not the northeast of a map makes me uneasy :P

But overall I do think map 1 is pretty cool!!  :D
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on June 30, 2017, 02:24:02 PM
@Gerrick do you still have the seeds so we could potentially change map projections?
I mean obviously mercator projection is convenient, but I have to say equal area would be nice.
relevant xkcd
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/map_projections.png)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on June 30, 2017, 02:35:13 PM
Kavrayskiy VII>>>All other projections

(generally, at least in terms of getting mostly equal area and such)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Gerrick on June 30, 2017, 05:15:02 PM
@Gerrick do you still have the seeds so we could potentially change map projections?
I do not still have the seeds for the Fractal World Generator maps, no.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on June 30, 2017, 05:17:52 PM
@Gerrick do you still have the seeds so we could potentially change map projections?
I do not still have the seeds for the Fractal World Generator maps, no.
Okay, so we're sticking with that map projection if we use that map then.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on July 01, 2017, 01:56:28 AM
@Gerrick do you still have the seeds so we could potentially change map projections?
I do not still have the seeds for the Fractal World Generator maps, no.
Okay, so we're sticking with that map projection if we use that map then.
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.starwarsringtheory.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F08%2Fvlcsnap-2014-03-16-13h35m42s242.jpg&hash=2c7a74efa54a3366de0fc81482e9b680)
Nooooooo!!!




Just kidding, that's probably fine
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on July 03, 2017, 11:46:58 AM
So now what?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on July 03, 2017, 04:22:40 PM
Well we should probably get a claims thread going, I suppose.  Unless anyone else wants to weigh in on the map.  Also:  we should probably claim less than 50% of the world's land area so we can allow new people to join essentially... whenever.  That way we shouldn't have the stagnation we usually see with roleplays eventually dying out when the playerbase gets too small.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on July 03, 2017, 04:23:22 PM
I think we still have to decide upon a map. Unless I'm wrong.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on July 03, 2017, 06:04:28 PM
I prefer Map 1, if only because the polygon tiles make me mildly nauseous.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on July 03, 2017, 08:32:08 PM
Everyone for Map 1, say "aye".
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Cinciri on July 04, 2017, 02:07:23 AM
Everyone for Map 1, say "aye".
Aye
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Hydra on July 04, 2017, 02:10:12 AM
Aye
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Post by: taulover on July 04, 2017, 02:15:28 AM
Aye
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Post by: Arenado on July 04, 2017, 09:01:46 AM
Nay?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on July 04, 2017, 12:30:43 PM
I count three for and one against. Not counting myself, of course.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on July 04, 2017, 12:43:12 PM
I'm fine with Map 1, I just prefer the hex map, maybe the one without the hexes on it.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on July 10, 2017, 09:12:14 PM
So what's the verdict?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on July 10, 2017, 09:18:34 PM
Map 1 wins
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on July 16, 2017, 05:22:10 AM
Sounds great!

I'll begin working on the logistics of everything tomorrow!! :D
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on July 18, 2017, 03:30:11 AM
/me checks his wristwatch

It's been two days. Can we get an update?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on July 19, 2017, 05:29:41 PM
@BraveSirRobin
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on July 20, 2017, 03:03:01 AM
@BraveSirRobin
Will get to this soon just got the pukes out of nowhere today and needless to say that's foiled my plans both irl and online... :/
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on July 20, 2017, 03:14:06 AM
Okay.
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Post by: Aethelia on July 20, 2017, 07:20:35 PM
Hex map would be nice, makes distances better in my opinion from DnD experience played on a hex map.

I'd vote for Map 1 too. Nice continent distribution there, with the N and S Westland having some potentially interesting borders, Northland having some close contact with Westland and Centralland as a mediating force, and the Islands of Eastland being a good foreign presence. And still enough water that ship routes can get to any important coast.

Some of the other layouts are more boring looking, 4 and 5 just being one big continent with some other stuff going on, and 3 is just being all like "I'm just three dull continents". 2 and 6 are just too weird looking.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on July 22, 2017, 04:27:08 PM
So it would appear map 1 it is then!  Now we should name it probably (the Roleplay, or the planet, even...) 

Any suggestions?  :)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on July 22, 2017, 04:30:28 PM
I like Sellinia.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on July 22, 2017, 05:19:38 PM
I like Wintreath.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aceus Hovda on July 23, 2017, 11:33:16 AM
What is map for reference?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on July 23, 2017, 02:27:24 PM
What is map for reference?
This post has Map 1. (http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=4417.msg99801#msg99801)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Justinian Ezkantion on July 23, 2017, 04:32:45 PM
WAIT WE WERE MAKING A MAP??!! I would've helped, ya know (if I actually paid attention to the guild posts). Anyway, I'd like a big, chilly northern landmass with a milder southern half and with a strait for sea traffic passing through/next to it, make of that what you will.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Commander_Zemas on July 23, 2017, 06:12:39 PM
I was messing around with the map gen and I combined several maps together to make this shitty edit. (I'm terrible at photoshopping) You can clearly see the borders between the different maps I generated lol.

Zemas' Map Edit
(https://wintreath.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSU3tsWT.png&hash=174e3353435e0f2c5db39ff2d49f8a04)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on July 23, 2017, 08:20:32 PM
@Justinian Ezkantion You basically just claimed the entirety of the western half of the northern continent. I cannot condone that action, as that is a seriously large piece of land.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Justinian Ezkantion on July 23, 2017, 09:49:51 PM
@Justinian Ezkantion You basically just claimed the entirety of the western half of the northern continent. I cannot condone that action, as that is a seriously large piece of land.
In my defense there will probably be at the most something like ten people playing any one forum RP, and usually less than that. I can't see the reason we shouldn't carve it up as soon as we can as opposed to waiting for other players that may never come. In my experience the time you have the most players is right when it starts anyway. Ultimately it's your decision, I'm just stating why I claimed what I did.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on July 25, 2017, 05:14:38 PM
Our main concern with claiming large swaths of land is to prevent the inevitable nation RP's turn into a load of 10 superpowers and very few minor, less relevant countries.  I was thinking we could do something like colonies, and much smaller main areas (think size of U.K. vs size of British Empire, France vs French Empire, Netherlands vs Dutch Empire, etc etc).  Not only would that make it far easier for new players to join (revolutions in colonies/granting independence is generally not an uncommon thing, especially during large scale warfare and the period after WWII in our world).  Plus that would make things more interesting.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on July 25, 2017, 09:31:36 PM
Our main concern with claiming large swaths of land is to prevent the inevitable nation RP's turn into a load of 10 superpowers and very few minor, less relevant countries.  I was thinking we could do something like colonies, and much smaller main areas (think size of U.K. vs size of British Empire, France vs French Empire, Netherlands vs Dutch Empire, etc etc).  Not only would that make it far easier for new players to join (revolutions in colonies/granting independence is generally not an uncommon thing, especially during large scale warfare and the period after WWII in our world).  Plus that would make things more interesting.
Yep, plus I'd rather not see the map get basically completely filled (http://i.imgur.com/lWzlEWg.png) again, since that puts latecoming players off.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on July 31, 2017, 04:56:22 PM
So we're good moving forward with Map 1 then right?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on August 01, 2017, 01:26:15 PM
So we're good moving forward with Map 1 then right?
Yes, Map 1 is what we'll be using.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on August 09, 2017, 01:54:05 AM
Sounds good.  Shall we get a claims thread going?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on August 09, 2017, 01:55:26 AM
Also Disclaimer:  I'm horrendous with MS Paint and stuff so any help on the blowing up the map to a usable size/claim marking would be greatly appreciated :D
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on August 09, 2017, 01:13:12 PM
@taulover We could really use your skills with this.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: ShadowX4life on August 10, 2017, 03:42:37 AM
Am I too late to join in on the RP?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on August 10, 2017, 06:45:23 AM
Am I too late to join in on the RP?
Of course not.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: ShadowX4life on August 10, 2017, 05:23:31 PM
Am I too late to join in on the RP?
Of course not.
Can you tell so far what has been agreed on and what is going to happen?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on August 10, 2017, 06:50:18 PM
@taulover We could really use your skills with this.
What skills? I have none...
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on August 12, 2017, 03:46:03 AM
Am I too late to join in on the RP?
Of course not.
Can you tell so far what has been agreed on and what is going to happen?
So far we've just agreed on a map and time period!! (Great depression WWII Cold war progression)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: ShadowX4life on August 12, 2017, 03:50:23 AM
So if we are choosing which time period, I propose the year 1947. That year is just before the Cold War and after WWII.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on August 12, 2017, 05:44:20 AM
Now, who shall start this thing up?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Greater Balticia on August 12, 2017, 01:20:10 PM
Would anyone be interested in hosting a new game? If not, I would be interested.
Dont think anyone want to do that
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on August 12, 2017, 03:30:53 PM
So if we are choosing which time period, I propose the year 1947. That year is just before the Cold War and after WWII.
We already chose a time period, as was laid out by BraveSirRobin. And the Cold War started pretty much right when WWII ended, as the two superpowers coming out of the war had opposing philosophies, too much strength, and no common enemy. The USA and USSR hated each other before WWII began and only worked together because of the threats we were facing. Once that was over, we went right back to hating each other.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on August 12, 2017, 07:21:02 PM
Though this world wouldn't be exactly Earth, of course.  It's similar, but that's just the tech layout.  Geopolitically I'd imagine things might be similar, but I think our goal is to avoid crazy impressive superpowers (at least at the beginning).  Thus it was chosen to be a time when the great colonial empires are (traditionally) collapsing and new forms of control are required in order to ensure "superpower" status on the world stage.  Plus, the added bonus there was that we could just add new countries or let them collapse at any time depending on the player base!! :D
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on August 12, 2017, 07:35:02 PM
Except I'd end up being a superpower anyway because of my knowledge of technology during this time period and my ability to design superior machines.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on August 13, 2017, 07:38:23 PM
So if we are choosing which time period, I propose the year 1947. That year is just before the Cold War and after WWII.
Though this world wouldn't be exactly Earth, of course.  It's similar, but that's just the tech layout.  Geopolitically I'd imagine things might be similar, but I think our goal is to avoid crazy impressive superpowers (at least at the beginning).  Thus it was chosen to be a time when the great colonial empires are (traditionally) collapsing and new forms of control are required in order to ensure "superpower" status on the world stage.  Plus, the added bonus there was that we could just add new countries or let them collapse at any time depending on the player base!! :D
Yep, hence "1947" doesn't make any sense because we're on another timeline, not set on Earth even.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: ShadowX4life on August 13, 2017, 07:42:04 PM
Alright then, so when are we going to begin RPing or do we still need to sort some more details? If so, then what are they?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on August 14, 2017, 04:47:23 PM
Well currently I'm trying to find a helpful soul who can transfer Map 1 into some programme or another and blow it up to a more usable size, because I suck at most things graphic  :/
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Cinciri on August 15, 2017, 11:59:47 PM
I am very excited for a WWII technology setting, I get to break out all the vehicles I have "Designed" ((aka modified from various country projects)) for that era, seeing as Yaim Rusur's main role in anything is military.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on August 16, 2017, 12:34:05 AM
This is going to be a very interesting RP with so many militaristic nations.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Cinciri on August 16, 2017, 12:46:40 AM
This is going to be a very interesting RP with so many militaristic nations.
Indeed
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on August 16, 2017, 10:48:38 PM
Well currently I'm trying to find a helpful soul who can transfer Map 1 into some programme or another and blow it up to a more usable size, because I suck at most things graphic  :/
I'd consider the current size fairly usable... it's better than a pixelated image at least, IMO.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Cinciri on August 26, 2017, 11:46:59 PM
I've got a person who is willing to join Wintreath if we get this RP up and running
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 03, 2017, 08:08:15 PM
Oki doki!  Who want's to take the mantle of mapmaker upon them?  I really suck at making maps and claims and stuff.  So much so that my claims are often very ambiguous... :/
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 06, 2017, 04:06:40 PM
Bump here and totally not because I'm going crazy not making a factbook right now.  I'm not sure how this whole map thing should progress because I can't really convert map 1 into any super-high def map that I can make claims on and stuff.  Especially because all I have to work with is MS Paint...
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on September 06, 2017, 04:58:45 PM
MS Paint is just the worst for this kind of thing....
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on September 06, 2017, 06:35:08 PM
Bump here and totally not because I'm going crazy not making a factbook right now.  I'm not sure how this whole map thing should progress because I can't really convert map 1 into any super-high def map that I can make claims on and stuff.  Especially because all I have to work with is MS Paint...
Get Paint.NET (https://www.getpaint.net/). Simple install, easy to use, massive improvement over MS Paint. This includes layers, so you'll be able to edit borders without messing up back of the map. Or you could go with GIMP, but that's more complex and a bit harder to use.

Smaller-resolution maps are still usable; the old nation RPs made do with them too.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 06, 2017, 07:07:07 PM
Is there any way I can get a non-geographic version of the map with Paint.NET?  It definitely is useful for drawing messups, but I'm not entirely sure how I could get the computer to recognise the map outline to create a political version...
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on September 06, 2017, 11:23:09 PM
Is there any way I can get a non-geographic version of the map with Paint.NET?  It definitely is useful for drawing messups, but I'm not entirely sure how I could get the computer to recognise the map outline to create a political version...
You can try using the paint bucket. Play around with the tolerances and stuff. And if necessary also use the magic wand selection tool.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 08, 2017, 04:34:13 AM
Well a long while later:

https://jumpshare.com/v/R8oWpEJzR962dd0JHLGl (https://jumpshare.com/v/R8oWpEJzR962dd0JHLGl)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 08, 2017, 04:34:51 AM
NOTE:  Only partly complete I'm not sure how to put lines between the sea and land and then make the land all one shade to easily create claims in...
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on September 08, 2017, 05:02:27 AM
NOTE:  Only partly complete I'm not sure how to put lines between the sea and land and then make the land all one shade to easily create claims in...
Same concept here; just paint-bucket it manually.

As for lines, you probably can do something with PhotoShop, but otherwise you may just have to trace it yourself...
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Hydra on September 08, 2017, 05:02:52 AM
I can give it a shot and do it over the weekend if you want :P
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Hydra on September 08, 2017, 05:32:02 AM
Here it is! Let me know if you want any changes. :P

(https://i.imgur.com/J3OYokd.png)

Edit: Sorry for not volunteering to do this earlier. I didn't really get a chance to see what was going on.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Cinciri on September 08, 2017, 12:39:29 PM
Here it is! Let me know if you want any changes. :P

(https://i.imgur.com/J3OYokd.png)

Edit: Sorry for not volunteering to do this earlier. I didn't really get a chance to see what was going on.
Holy crap that's really good!
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 08, 2017, 03:21:00 PM
Here it is! Let me know if you want any changes. :P

(https://i.imgur.com/J3OYokd.png)

Edit: Sorry for not volunteering to do this earlier. I didn't really get a chance to see what was going on.
How much time did this take you?  XD

Also if it's not too much trouble could we get lighted blue and green colours just from a purely aesthetic standpoint? 

Also HOW DID YOU MAKE IT SO MUCH BIGGER YOU ARE AWESOME
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Hydra on September 08, 2017, 05:43:06 PM
Here it is! Let me know if you want any changes. :P

(https://i.imgur.com/J3OYokd.png)

Edit: Sorry for not volunteering to do this earlier. I didn't really get a chance to see what was going on.
How much time did this take you?  XD

Also if it's not too much trouble could we get lighted blue and green colours just from a purely aesthetic standpoint? 

Also HOW DID YOU MAKE IT SO MUCH BIGGER YOU ARE AWESOME
That took around 10-15 minutes. :P I'll get the colors changed tonight. Let me know if you have any specific color codes in mind or I'll just make it a tad lighter.

Also, I didn't change the size from your image. I think that just as a solid color made it look less pixelated and more high def. :P
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Hydra on September 09, 2017, 01:11:08 AM
Also if it's not too much trouble could we get lighted blue and green colours just from a purely aesthetic standpoint? 
Here it is! Let me know if there's anything else you want tweaked. :D

(https://i.imgur.com/HxoIsHF.png)

EDIT: Removed artifact
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on September 11, 2017, 03:21:26 PM
@Hydra you are a God.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Provincial America on September 14, 2017, 01:18:49 AM
What about a modern RP, in which the worlds communication grid is shut down by a terrorist cell that launches a series of strikes on the worlds militaries and citizens. The worlds nations have to avoid going to war by accident, and manage to hunt down the terrorists with little to no global communications
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 14, 2017, 03:23:03 AM
I'll get a claims thread going tomorrow probably!  :D
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on September 14, 2017, 04:37:51 AM
What about a modern RP, in which the worlds communication grid is shut down by a terrorist cell that launches a series of strikes on the worlds militaries and citizens. The worlds nations have to avoid going to war by accident, and manage to hunt down the terrorists with little to no global communications
FYI At this point this thread is for a specific RP that's about to get started soon.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 14, 2017, 04:57:54 AM
What about a modern RP, in which the worlds communication grid is shut down by a terrorist cell that launches a series of strikes on the worlds militaries and citizens. The worlds nations have to avoid going to war by accident, and manage to hunt down the terrorists with little to no global communications
FYI At this point this thread is for a specific RP that's about to get started soon.
Yeah tau is totally going to come up with a super cool title, cool logos and sick merchandising tomorrow as well
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on September 14, 2017, 05:03:15 AM
What about a modern RP, in which the worlds communication grid is shut down by a terrorist cell that launches a series of strikes on the worlds militaries and citizens. The worlds nations have to avoid going to war by accident, and manage to hunt down the terrorists with little to no global communications
FYI At this point this thread is for a specific RP that's about to get started soon.
Yeah tau is totally going to come up with a super cool title, cool logos and sick merchandising tomorrow as well
Oh sorry, by "soon" I meant SoonTM.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 15, 2017, 07:26:12 PM
Oi people before I start a claims tread:

Any good ideas for naming this roleplay?
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: ShadowX4life on September 16, 2017, 05:37:25 PM
Oi people before I start a claims tread:

Any good ideas for naming this roleplay?
"The Hunt in the Dark" is my suggestion
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on September 16, 2017, 07:41:10 PM
Oi people before I start a claims tread:

Any good ideas for naming this roleplay?
"The Hunt in the Dark" is my suggestion
But why

Edit: wait, are you referring to the suggested RP by Provincial America? If he wants, he can run that RP (though that's literally his only post on the forums so I doubt it) but that's not the RP we're talking about.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Commander_Zemas on September 16, 2017, 10:00:40 PM
I'm not good at names, but perhaps "The Seminal Catastrophe" or "Wintreath on Edge" or something along those lines.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on September 17, 2017, 10:05:54 PM
This is basically going to be a world war. How about "World War Wintreath"? Call it WWW for short.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on September 17, 2017, 10:41:57 PM
This is basically going to be a world war. How about "World War Wintreath"? Call it WWW for short.
Then it'd be awkward if war doesn't break out...
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on September 18, 2017, 12:32:24 AM
I'm trying to instigate war by expanding my empire.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 18, 2017, 02:53:40 AM
I'm trying to instigate war by expanding my empire.
*looks forward to Imperial Japan Aragonn* :P

I like Wintreath on Edge, but I'll leave us open to further suggestions for about another day and then go forward with a cool poll  8)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Cinciri on September 20, 2017, 01:05:48 AM
Yaim Rusur in a nutshell: "Will kill for muns"
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on September 22, 2017, 03:14:54 PM
I'm trying to instigate war by expanding my empire.
*looks forward to Imperial Japan Aragonn* :P
I'll be less like Imperialist Japan and more like Nazi Germany in terms of technology and culture. Except we're not trying to commit mass genocide. Just taking over the world one nation at a time. ;)
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on September 23, 2017, 08:56:19 PM
If this was EU4, it would be coalition time.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on September 29, 2017, 07:46:09 AM
I see World War Wintreath won the poll. ^-^
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on September 29, 2017, 04:23:54 PM
There was a poll??
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on September 29, 2017, 05:03:46 PM
Apparently there was a poll while I was away. 4 people voted, and 2 of the 4 voted for World War Wintreath.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on September 29, 2017, 05:17:25 PM
Apparently there was a poll while I was away. 4 people voted, and 2 of the 4 voted for World War Wintreath.
Yeah, I didn't notice the poll either.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 30, 2017, 01:27:59 AM
Y'all want a repoll or reopening?  I can do that I think...
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on September 30, 2017, 01:29:20 AM
Yeah the closest I think I could do is a revote... I'm not sure how to reopen a poll I tried to close and reopen voting but that didn't seem to work...
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Arenado on October 02, 2017, 05:25:27 AM
More elections, yay.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: ShadowX4life on October 04, 2017, 01:24:34 AM
Democracy!!!! :))
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on October 04, 2017, 03:31:30 AM
I love democracy. I love the Republic.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on October 04, 2017, 03:53:33 AM
Democracy is a tool for the weak minded and emotionally driven. It's a popularity contest. What option appeals to the masses best. It's not about what's best. It's about making people happy. What needs to be done is oftentimes ignored or looked upon as the devil's work. Democracy is doom.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on October 04, 2017, 06:44:28 AM
Democracy is a tool for the weak minded and emotionally driven. It's a popularity contest. What option appeals to the masses best. It's not about what's best. It's about making people happy. What needs to be done is oftentimes ignored or looked upon as the devil's work. Democracy is doom.
Hence why this happens:

Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on October 04, 2017, 06:55:52 AM
And by the time that happens, everything has already gone to shit. There's no going back without a ton of bloodshed fighting for freedom again. History is about to repeat itself.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: BraveSirRobin on October 05, 2017, 12:23:50 PM
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: taulover on October 05, 2017, 03:59:54 PM
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Cinciri on November 10, 2017, 03:15:43 PM
Ripparoni in pepperoni this concept.
Title: Brainstorming for some new Nation RP!!!
Post by: Aragonn on November 15, 2017, 03:40:16 PM
Damn school exams.