The Common House Of House FeirvanYou need at least 100 posts on the forum to found a house. You can read more here:
Patriarch
Indosyl Feirvan
Other Members
Possibly Beiran Feirvan, Aaron Feirvan, Carette Feirvan. (They might be dead...)
Home Link
http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=3622.0 (ftp://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=3622.0)
I'm not too good with much computer stuff (Even the simple things!), so I'm sure if the link is even working, but it's there in The Wonderful World Of Wintreath...
The Common House Of House FeirvanYou need at least 100 posts on the forum to found a house. You can read more here:
Patriarch
Indosyl Feirvan
Other Members
None
Home Link
http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=3622.0 (ftp://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=3622.0)
I'm not too good with much computer stuff (Even the simple things!), so I'm sure if the link is even working, but it's there in The Wonderful World Of Wintreath...
http://wintreath.com/index.php?part=law&act=detail&id=12
You can keep it in here if you want :) also, a note: House Members ate meant to be actual people from the forum, not fictional characters (if you use your House in an RP you can obviously have made up members, but this is OOC/regionwide)Speaking of, Weissreich, I was wondering if you had wanted me to contribute to any Meindhert house affairs, either for the RP or general matters.
Question:@Raxus, any questions you have about the House system should be answered here (http://wintreath.com/index.php?part=law&act=detail&id=12).
So... I am a big fan and supporter of familial houses and/or guilds (see signature). I was wondering what considerations Wintreath has towards already established royal/noble houses?
Though my actual name long, the "Caedus-Turn" family is my primary identity. The rest were just awarded by those other families for some sort of action.
Upon proving myself an active, dedicated member (Perhaps even by joining the Order of the Call), would I be able to establish a Caedus-Turn chapter here in Wintreath? I can give more info on the family history, current status, and current members, upon request.
Thanks!
@Raxus, any questions you have about the House system should be answered here (http://wintreath.com/index.php?part=law&act=detail&id=12).
Technically, no post has ever been approved or denied in this topic. In fact, several people have posted houses in this topic in the past who do not meet the post requirement without complaint. Between these two facts, I see no reason to "deny" the request.
However, the house system has long been neglected in the region, so it may be time to re-examine the requirements for the future. I know at one point I was considering requiring a house to have several Citizens in it before it could register.
I cite Decree 004: "The decree also states that the Monarch is allowed to deny a request. Furthermore:
Recognition of Houses
1) Citizens of Wintreath who head a familial house in the region and have at least 100 posts on the regional forums shall have the right to formally request recognition of their House by the Government of Wintreath. The Monarch or his designee shall have the authority to approve or deny requests for recognition, and shall maintain a public record of all currently recognized Houses."
... [quoted later]
I have met all requirements in the Monarchs decree.
If we let the personal whims of members get in the way of regulation and law what kind of region -or any region for that matter- would we be?
7) The Monarch may revoke recognition of a House for any reasonWhich implies that he could also do the same when deciding whether to accept a request. Wintermoot wouldn't be going back on his word by denying a request, the decree itself allows him to do so should he wish.
Whether or not any post count has a significant amount of spam, the count still shows a high level of activity and contribution.Counting up 50 numbers on your own isn't really activity or contribution though. When the only limit on how much you can post is the 5-second limit built into the forum, upping your post count in that way is about as difficult as a clicker game.
Again I have followed the present rule to the letter and any other requirement- obviously not in the Decree- would be an unfair double standard.My thoughts were that while you may have followed the letter of the requirement, you may not have necessarily followed the spirit of it. And as I said earlier, should Wintermoot believe that to be the case, he could certainly deny the request on those grounds.
Technically, no post has ever been approved or denied in this topic.That's actually an interesting point... technically, no houses have been officially recognized by Wintreath, arguably. :P
In fact, several people have posted houses in this topic in the past who do not meet the post requirement without complaint.That's mostly because those people withdrew their requests after being made aware of the post requirements, so there wasn't a need to ask you to make a judgement in that regard. While here, Tiberius was already aware of the post requirements, having cited it himself.
However, the house system has long been neglected in the region, so it may be time to re-examine the requirements for the future. I know at one point I was considering requiring a house to have several Citizens in it before it could register.Yeah, there's definitely things that could be done, but it's probably a lower-priority thing given how little houses contribute to Wintreath (unless the reform changes that in some way or allows potential for that).
Is it okay if I make a house where all of the members are equal? Is it also okay if there is no crest for the house?According to Decree 004, Section 3:
2) Upon approval of the request, the person that made the request shall be considered the Patriarch or Matriarch or the House, and will be responsible for maintaining any records of membership and family links within their House.
If this family stuff is something similar to the kind of family stuff that happened in England and Europe with say House of York and Lancaster than disregard my statement of interest.If you mean like rivalry, no it's not really like that. It's just kind of a way to formalize friendly ties between people. And sometime in the future, we may be starting an official RP in the world of Wintreath that uses Houses, so there's also that. It's mostly just a social thing.
I'm not sure of my house status, exactly. I was a member of the Meindhert house, but the two other members of the house (Weissreich, Amalya) have since gone inactive. I suppose you could say that the house is technically still alive since both of those members are Paragons, but for all practical purposes I'm the only surviving member.Yeah, according to Decree 004: Regarding Recognition of Familial Houses (https://wintreath.com/index.php?part=law&act=detail&id=12):
However, as I'm not the Patriarch and haven't inherited the title (yet), I don't have the authority to dissolve the house. I've removed my house affiliation from my user profile for now.
Did you want me to remove you from the Meindhert House roster, or were you just letting everyone know that you were personally choosing to remove the name from your profile?I guess just the latter. Like I said, I don't have the authority to do much else, and the house status doesn't mean much to me either if the remaining members aren't active, but I don't think it would be right to leave.
I've removed my house affiliation from my user profile for now.Since Weiss is back, I've added my house back into my user profile again. Let's make Grandpa proud. :D
I was always proud, Barnes :DI've removed my house affiliation from my user profile for now.Since Weiss is back, I've added my house back into my user profile again. Let's make Grandpa proud. :D
I was always proud, Barnes :D❤️
Re-registering the House of Emoticonius. :D↑
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The House of Emoticonius
Patriarch
Satania Grá Emoticonius
Other Members
ogunbiyi6422
Home Link
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=6642.msg149585#msg149585
Family Crest
https://i.imgur.com/I9aLIqq.png
The House of Devils
Kell:Sir Butter of Florida (Aka the self-acclaimed God of Alligators and Turtles)
Other Members (Aka Captains): Ogunbiyi6422, Earl of Something
As for now if a Guardian eliminates me the pursuit for the Great Machine and the Kellship will be passed onto Ogunbiyi6422.
Home link TBA
1) Citizens of Wintreath who head a familial house in the region and have at least 100 posts on the regional forums shall have the right to formally request recognition of their House by the Government of Wintreath. The Monarch or his designee shall have the authority to approve or deny requests for recognition, and shall maintain a public record of all currently recognized Houses.
I really think that rules should be changed because I've been a citizen of Winreath for about four months now and honestly I prefer discord rather than this site. Every month I have about 200 posts besides in March where I think I had 99.The House of Devils
Kell:Sir Butter of Florida (Aka the self-acclaimed God of Alligators and Turtles)
Other Members (Aka Captains): Ogunbiyi6422, Earl of Something
As for now if a Guardian eliminates me the pursuit for the Great Machine and the Kellship will be passed onto Ogunbiyi6422.
Home link TBA
Heya Butter, unfortunately like Daw stated to Potato Bagel, you don't quite meet the requirements to make a house just yet. As per Royal Decree 004: Regarding Recognition of Familial Houses, first section:Quote1) Citizens of Wintreath who head a familial house in the region and have at least 100 posts on the regional forums shall have the right to formally request recognition of their House by the Government of Wintreath. The Monarch or his designee shall have the authority to approve or deny requests for recognition, and shall maintain a public record of all currently recognized Houses.
So since you only currently have 18 posts, you don't currently qualify at this time.
There's no restrictions on who can be the head of a house - just who can found one.Strictly speaking, the law only provides for choosing a new house leader if the leader is no longer a citizen, but I think that's ignorable since the law doesn't provide for joining/leaving houses at all, but that is clearly a thing by precedent.
Similarly, there's also no restrictions on how many houses one individual can nominally form.
As such, until such time as the law is changed, I propose that, if a legal fiction be required for these Houses of Kowalski and, er, "of Devils" to be founded, that we pretend I founded them, then departed them for...some shenaniganrous reason, leaving the first member adopted (either Bagel or Butter, respectively) as putative Patriarch (or other title).
There's no restrictions on who can be the head of a house - just who can found one.Strictly speaking, the law only provides for choosing a new house leader if the leader is no longer a citizen, but I think that's ignorable since the law doesn't provide for joining/leaving houses at all, but that is clearly a thing by precedent.
Similarly, there's also no restrictions on how many houses one individual can nominally form.
As such, until such time as the law is changed, I propose that, if a legal fiction be required for these Houses of Kowalski and, er, "of Devils" to be founded, that we pretend I founded them, then departed them for...some shenaniganrous reason, leaving the first member adopted (either Bagel or Butter, respectively) as putative Patriarch (or other title).
Again, it has to be the person heading the house that can found it...since they become the considered patriarch/matriarch upon being formally recognized.I got 100 posts now and I'm going to bed NIGHT YALL
And the person heading it has to have 100 posts at least.
So the only thing that would work is if you specifically were the head of the house...or Butter posting in the forums a bit more until they hit 100 posts.
Also, you're still considered part of House Emoticonus since it never formally dissolved, and would be considered its current acting Patriarch. Are you formally leaving and dissolving that house?
I am leaving the house of Emoticonius mostly because It was an agreement between me and CoS and if it were identified with another name maybe I would stay but I feel that I can't be a member of the family bearing his name if his name is still there. There are 2 optionsTechnically, you're the only one left in House Emoticonius, and the remaining house chooses the successor patriarch/matriarch, so the remaining house (aka you) could choose you to be the next patriarch.
1. Could I change the name of the House? I don't think I can because as acting patriarch, I don't believe I have that power. Or do I...?
2. I will ask Butter if he wants me to be the head of the house but ultimately since it was idea I think it would be better in he waited till his 100 posts since it is his house.
Since you basically hijacked a non one-word spam thread and made like 6 pages of spam one-worded posts completely unrelated to the actual topic, I'm going to let @Wintermoot decide if those even count, to be perfectly honest.Would also point out that the wording of the houses decree allows Wintermoot to deny house applications for any reason; to me, a blatant attempt to bypass a legal requirement via a loophole is reason enough.
nah I never intended for this to work I'm just being annoying till we think about changing a rule but hey give me some points for creativity lolI am leaving the house of Emoticonius mostly because It was an agreement between me and CoS and if it were identified with another name maybe I would stay but I feel that I can't be a member of the family bearing his name if his name is still there. There are 2 optionsTechnically, you're the only one left in House Emoticonius, and the remaining house chooses the successor patriarch/matriarch, so the remaining house (aka you) could choose you to be the next patriarch.
1. Could I change the name of the House? I don't think I can because as acting patriarch, I don't believe I have that power. Or do I...?
2. I will ask Butter if he wants me to be the head of the house but ultimately since it was idea I think it would be better in he waited till his 100 posts since it is his house.
Of course this is a bit weird, and it may make more sense for you to leave House Emoticonius and found your own house.Since you basically hijacked a non one-word spam thread and made like 6 pages of spam one-worded posts completely unrelated to the actual topic, I'm going to let @Wintermoot decide if those even count, to be perfectly honest.Would also point out that the wording of the houses decree allows Wintermoot to deny house applications for any reason; to me, a blatant attempt to bypass a legal requirement via a loophole is reason enough.
(Deja vu to when I made this exact same argument back in 2018, lol, though Wintermoot disagreed.)
Of course, Butter (as well as Wintermoot, that last time in 2018) is right that it may be time to reconsider the house registration requirements, especially as times are changing and the community moves toward Discord. But to me, a clear bad-faith attempt to bypass the existing rules isn't the right way to go about doing that, and I don't think that should be rewarded.
1. The Joslisonorian Royal HouseUnfortunately I do believe current law still requires 100 non-spam forum posts to found a house.
2. Matriarch/Patriarch: Ariah Qio II
3: Could I use an alt as a family member? If not, then no other members.
1. The Joslisonorian Royal HouseWhen you do reach the requirements, you can’t call it a Royal house or Noble house. Those are special distinctions earned by individuals, not affected by the nation roleplay but rather as the person behind the screen and their person in The Wonderful World of Wintreath (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?board=93.0). For example, on NationStates I may play the monarch of New Montith but in the context of houses, that doesn’t matter. Here I am Beiyu Eske, a relative of the Earl of Solvkre, a territory within Wintreath. I definitely recommend checking out that sub forum to learn more about how that might be styled as well as reading the Royal decree on Houses within Wintreath, as that is codified into law. (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=7133.0)
2. Matriarch/Patriarch: Ariah Qio II
3: Could I use an alt as a family member? If not, then no other members.